Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 || Om Krsna Guru || Dear list, Namaskar Here are the D-1 and D-7 of a woman who needed IVF treatment to become pregnant. +--------------+ |Md AL |SaR |As | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ra GL | |Mo | |Gk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ke | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su Me |Ju |Ma Ve | | | | |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ SaR / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Mo x As x AL Md | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 2 / GL \ | | / \ / \ | | Ke x Ra | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Gk / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x Ju x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ma \ / Su \ | | / Ve HL \ / Me \ | +--------------+ +--------------+ |HL Gk |Me |Ju AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ve Ra | |Mo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| |As Ma | D-7 |Ke GL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su | | |SaR Md | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Saptamsa D-7 +--------------+ | \ Ra / \ / | | \ Ve / \ Su / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ma \ / | | \ / \ / | |HL Gk x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 10 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Me x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju AL x Mo x Md SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ke \ | | / \ / GL \ | +--------------+ It seems to me as if the problem may have also been with the spouse - looking at the 2nd from UL. A3, A9, AS3, AS9 are all fine. Having said that, in the D-7 bhadakesh Mars (bleeding) is in Lagna, showing some difficulty in conception. After IVF the first pregnancy ended in miscarriage. 9th lord Mercury is in Aries (Mars) and aspected by Venus (10th lord), Rahu and Ketu. Easy enough to explain. Now Jupiter isn't very strong in this chart, so I would have used the 8th house for the next pregnancy, because of Ketu stopping the Manduka gati. Leo lord Sun is in Sagittarius, which should indicate a boy, but a baby girl was born. If we ignore Ketu and look at the 11th, then we have the Moon placed in Cancer, which should also indicate a boy. So it seems I have missed something. Can anyone suggest what? With reverence to the Gurus, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Why didn’t you share the birth details? Ninth lord Saturn is retrograde, showing the difficulty in getting children. Sun is the cause of conception, thats why its ill placement from te A3/A9 causes physical problems in concieving. Here in the Saptamsa Sun itself is in marana karaka sthana. Sex of child is best seen from the husbands Saptamsa. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Samir Shah 15 April 2005 10:23 [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle 12.0pt"> || Om Krsna Guru || Dear list, Namaskar Here are the D-1 and D-7 of a woman who needed IVF treatment to become pregnant. +--------------+ |Md AL |SaR |As | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ra GL | |Mo | |Gk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ke | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su Me |Ju |Ma Ve | | | | |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ SaR / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Mo x As x AL Md | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 2 / GL \ | | / \ / \ | | Ke x Ra | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Gk / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x Ju x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ma \ / Su \ | | / Ve HL \ / Me \ | +--------------+ +--------------+ |HL Gk |Me |Ju AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ve Ra | |Mo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saptamsa | | |-----------| |-----------| |As Ma | D-7 |Ke GL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su | | |SaR Md | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Saptamsa D-7 +--------------+ | \ Ra / \ / | | \ Ve / \ Su / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ma \ / | | \ / \ / | |HL Gk x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 10 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Me x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju AL x Mo x Md SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ke \ | | / \ / GL \ | +--------------+ It seems to me as if the problem may have also been with the spouse - looking at the 2nd from UL. A3, A9, AS3, AS9 are all fine. Having said that, in the D-7 bhadakesh Mars (bleeding) is in Lagna, showing some difficulty in conception. After IVF the first pregnancy ended in miscarriage. 9th lord Mercury is in Aries (Mars) and aspected by Venus (10th lord), Rahu and Ketu. Easy enough to explain. Now Jupiter isn't very strong in this chart, so I would have used the 8th house for the next pregnancy, because of Ketu stopping the Manduka gati. Leo lord Sun is in Sagittarius, which should indicate a boy, but a baby girl was born. If we ignore Ketu and look at the 11th, then we have the Moon placed in Cancer, which should also indicate a boy. So it seems I have missed something. Can anyone suggest what? With reverence to the Gurus, Samir ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 || Om Krsna Guru || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar I didn't share the birth details because of absent-mindedness :-[ . Sorry. Here they are now. Natal Chart December 17, 1970 Time: 16:50:00 Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 39 E 43' 00", 4 S 02' 00" If sex of the child is better seen from the husband (don't have his chart unfortunately), does that mean that the fortunes of the child are also better analysed from his chart? Pranaam, Samir "Visti Larsen" <visti Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:37 am RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Why didn’t you share the birth details? Ninth lord Saturn is retrograde, showing the difficulty in getting children. Sun is the cause of conception, thats why its ill placement from te A3/A9 causes physical problems in concieving. Here in the Saptamsa Sun itself is in marana karaka sthana. Sex of child is best seen from the husbands Saptamsa. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Om Namo Bhagawate Vasudevay Dear Samir, Namaste. I think Guru Visti considers husbands chart for determining sex of the children due to the fact that X-Y chromosomes are decided by the Male. This scientific fact has got nothing to do with the fate of the children which is affected by both the parents' charts- as we astrologers call them or their Genes - as science knows it. Om Shri Krishnarpanamastu. regards, Radhe Krishna! Himanshu Mohan , Samir Shah <a48919062> wrote: > || Om Krsna Guru || > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > I didn't share the birth details because of absent-mindedness :-[ > . Sorry. Here they are now. > > Natal Chart > December 17, 1970 > Time: 16:50:00 > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 39 E 43' 00", 4 S 02' 00" > > If sex of the child is better seen from the husband (don't have his chart > unfortunately), does that mean that the fortunes of the child are also > better analysed from his chart? > > Pranaam, > > Samir > > > ---------- > "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:37 am > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Why didn't you share the birth details? > > Ninth lord Saturn is retrograde, showing the difficulty in getting children. > > Sun is the cause of conception, thats why its ill placement from te A3/A9 > causes physical problems in concieving. Here in the Saptamsa Sun itself is > in marana karaka sthana. > > Sex of child is best seen from the husbands Saptamsa. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...>visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com > > *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Himanshu, Namaskar This is exactly my view, perfect explanation. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Himanshu Mohan 15 April 2005 19:34 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Om Namo Bhagawate Vasudevay Dear Samir, Namaste. I think Guru Visti considers husbands chart for determining sex of the children due to the fact that X-Y chromosomes are decided by the Male. This scientific fact has got nothing to do with the fate of the children which is affected by both the parents' charts- as we astrologers call them or their Genes - as science knows it. Om Shri Krishnarpanamastu. regards, Radhe Krishna! Himanshu Mohan , Samir Shah <a48919062> wrote: > || Om Krsna Guru || > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > I didn't share the birth details because of absent-mindedness :-[ > . Sorry. Here they are now. > > Natal Chart > December 17, 1970 > Time: 16:50:00 > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 39 E 43' 00", 4 S 02' 00" > > If sex of the child is better seen from the husband (don't have his chart > unfortunately), does that mean that the fortunes of the child are also > better analysed from his chart? > > Pranaam, > > Samir > > > ---------- > "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:37 am > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Why didn't you share the birth details? > > Ninth lord Saturn is retrograde, showing the difficulty in getting children. > > Sun is the cause of conception, thats why its ill placement from te A3/A9 > causes physical problems in concieving. Here in the Saptamsa Sun itself is > in marana karaka sthana. > > Sex of child is best seen from the husbands Saptamsa. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...>visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com > > *** ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 || Om Krsna Guru || Dear Himanshu, That makes a lot of sense. Thanks very much. Light is slowly permeating the darkness of my mind :-) Best wishes, Samir Himanshu Mohan 15 April 2005 19:34 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Saptamsa puzzle Om Namo Bhagawate Vasudevay Dear Samir, Namaste. I think Guru Visti considers husbands chart for determining sex of the children due to the fact that X-Y chromosomes are decided by the Male. This scientific fact has got nothing to do with the fate of the children which is affected by both the parents' charts- as we astrologers call them or their Genes - as science knows it. Om Shri Krishnarpanamastu. regards, Radhe Krishna! Himanshu Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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