RE: RE: D-7 clarification

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Dear Visti,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I agree with you. In my personal

discussion with Gurudev, he did say that for male

signs the counting is forwards for female signs the counting is reverse. So the

5th/ 9th house is seen from the Lagna and not dependent

on whether the native, whose chart is under consideration

is Male or Female.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">However I wait for Gurudev’s response.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Warm Regards

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarajit

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]

Friday, April 01, 2005 6:42

PM

 

Cc: 'Sanjay Rath'

[Om Krishna Guru] RE: Re:

D-7 clarification

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Samir,

Namaskar

Your mixing

up terms here. The general fortune of pregnancies is seen from the 5th

house for male and 9th for female. From here we can see the general fortune

of ones pregnancies, i.e. whether there are excess miscarriages or all are

succesful.

Now the

fortune of each child is analyzed with respect to the particular pregnancy.

 

With time

Sanjayji has clarified that the counting of each pregnancy is dependant on the

saptamsa lagna being odd/even. Why that particular article

(http://.org/learn/saptamsa_chakra.htm)

and the one on his website (http://srath.com/lectures/saptamsa.htm)

has this particular discrepency is worth asking him about. Hence i’ve

forwarded this message to him as well.

 

There could

however be a mistake in the sentence and he meant to convey that a male SIGN in

lagna, makes the counting start from the fifth house, and the ninth for female

SIGNs.

 

I hope

Sanjayji will take some time out to clarify this, so that we can correct the

articles on the websites.

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wishes,

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Samir Shah

[a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]

01 April 2005 08:11

 

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: D-7

clarification

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|| Om Namah Shivaaya ||

Dear Rafal, Namaskar

you wrote:

12.0pt">One method is for general fortune of child, one is for determining

sex/nature of child. Take the Lagna - if odd go forward and 5H is

first child. Ketu reverses

But which method is for what?

Let me quote from COVA 8.6.1-2: " The timing of birth of individual

children, their nature, abilities and fortune is seen in the saptamsa... The

first child is seen from the fifth house counted zodiacally or reverse

depending on whether the saptamsa Lagna is even or odd... The sex of the child

is seen from the lord of the house of pregnancy... Details regarding the

fortunes of individual children can be predicted by treating each of the signs

occupied by the lord of the preganacy as the lagna [for that child]"

It then goes on to talk about the controlling houses for males/females.

So from this it would seem that using the method of counting based on D-7

lagna, we can know all about the child - sex as well as fortunes.

The method of using the sex of the native isn't used at all here (only the

controlling houses are considered). But in the article on the website,

the reverse is true!

Presumably the two methods have different applications - but this hasn't been

explicitly stated anywhere. Could you clarify?

Thank you,

Samir

~

om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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~

om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Vinay P.

I remeber reading a mail written by a Guru (I cannot recall the name) which

explained that the second marriage is seen from 2H and fruits of second

marriage are seen 11th from 2H i.e 12H.

Regards

Ramesh

Vinay Patwardhan

[patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Friday, April 01, 2005 6:05 AMTo:

Cc: vishwanatham Subject: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Re: D-7 clarification

|| Shri Chintaamani Ganeshaaya Swaahaa ||

 

Dear Vishwanadham,

 

Simple question :-) Why first marriage and 2nd marraige? 7th H in reality shows

the sex (Procedure for Garbhadhana) and fruit of it is 5th H, child!! (Not

neccessary one has to marry!! )

 

Not only for child case (5th and 9th H) but 2nd and 12th H of Male chart shows

right and left eye , but reverse is true in Female case !! For this sages have

treated stri jataka differently !!

 

If you want to deal with 1st and 2nd marriage , I think UL and it's trines are

better !! Then in female horoscopy UL is arudha of 12th H or it's arudha of 2nd

H?

 

This are just free thoughts and may be wrong completely. Guru's words may enlight us!!

 

Regards,

 

Vinay P.

 

 

Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:57:02 +0530 Viswanadham

<vishwanatham >Re: Re: D-7 clarificationHare Rama KrishnaDear

Friends, NamaskarThink of children as fruits of marriage - 11th house from 7th

(first marriage).So, where to look for fruits of second maraige ??i pose this

question, so that we get some depth on why 5th & 9thhouses for children, what

is the sanctity of these houses?We know that odd signs are male and even signs

are female (anystandard book gives this).regardssuryaviswanadhamOn Apr 1, 2005

11:41 AM, Samir Shah <a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> || Om Namah Shivaaya ||> >

Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > you wrote:> One method is for general fortune of child,

one is for determining> sex/nature of child. Take the Lagna - if odd go forward

and 5H is> first child. Ketu reverses> But which method is for what? > > Let me

quote from COVA 8.6.1-2: " The timing of birth of individual> children, their

nature, abilities and fortune is seen in the saptamsa... The> first child is

seen from the fifth house counted zodiacally or reverse> depending on whether

the saptamsa Lagna is even or odd... The sex of the> child is seen from the

lord of the house of pregnancy... Details regarding> the fortunes of individual

children can be predicted by treating each of the> signs occupied by the lord of

the preganacy as the lagna [for that child]" > It then goes on to talk about the

controlling houses for males/females.> > So from this it would seem that using

the method of counting based on D-7> lagna, we can know all about the child -

sex as well as fortunes.> > The method of using the sex of the native isn't

used at all here (only the> controlling houses are considered). But in the

article on the website, the> reverse is true! > > Presumably the two methods

have different applications - but this hasn't> been explicitly stated anywhere.

Could you clarify?> > Thank you,> > Samir> > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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