Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Can anyone comment on mantras which have more than 12 words. The point A in this case would go a full circle around the chart. Padma. , Sridhar Govindan <appulali> wrote: > Hey Ramesh , > > This is what i got > > Swa-mi-ye Sa-ra-nam Ay-ya-ppa > 3 words > 9 aksharas > House of Mantra devata = 3 > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> > wrote: > > > IINOm Namah Shivaaye II > > Dear Hari, Namaskar, > > How it is 8 syallables. When I count it comes 10 > > syallables. See how. > > Swa-1, mi-2,ye-3, sa-4 ra-5,na-6,ma-7 ,a-8, ya-9 and > > ppa-10 and 3 words .No doubt . So start from third > > house and go to 10th house. From third house to 10 > > th house you have advanced 8 houses.Now from 10th > > house you have to go further eight houses so it is > > coming to 5th house .This house is the seat of > > Mantra Devata. Here the starting house of 3rd house > > has crossed and came to fifth house.I do not know > > myself whether I am correct.This has to be verified. > > With best wishes, > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > Dear Sridhar, > > > > Sorry I made a mistake here, it should be: > > > > Regarding 'Swamiye Saranam Ayyappa', I think it is: > > > > Number of words = 3 > > Number of aksharas = 8 > > Seat of mantra devata = 1 > > > > Not sure how to interpret this; the abiding picture > > is of the devotee > > carrying the bundle of offerings on his head (lagna) > > during the > > Sabarimala trek; hopefully Ramanarayan will > > contribute > > a few words here. > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > , Sridhar > > Govindan <appulali> > > wrote: > > > Dear Sarbani, > > > > > > one of my favorite mantra has been for a long time > > > Shri Rama Jayam. I am from TN/kerala border. So it > > is > > > a tradition there. Once Shankaracharya of Kanchi, > > > Shri Jayendra Saraswati , requested on a magazine > > to > > > chant/write this mantra. Since then I have been > > > addicted to this mantra. I also know young > > unmarried > > > girls from TN .esp write this mantra everyday to > > get a > > > good husband. > > > > > > So it is not surprising that seat of this mantra > > is 7. > > > Number of words: 3 > > > Number of akñaras: 5 > > > Seat of the Mantra Devatä: 7th house > > > Number of mälä: 3 > > > > > > Is my exercise correct.?. you can reply to me > > > personally also. Can you also tell what about > > Swamiye > > > Saranam Ayyappa ? I am not able to count the > > aksharas. > > > If you not heard of Ayyappa, he has a temple in > > > Sabarimala in kerala. Sabari Mala is after Sabari > > of > > > Ramayana . > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sridhar > > > --- Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > > > > If I may join the thread: Both mantras are used. > > The > > > > one without using the > > > > pranava is the Panchakshari Shiva Mantra and the > > one > > > > with the pranava is the > > > > Shadakshari Shiva Mantra. Please see below > > Example > > > > number 2 for its > > > > explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > (a) Counting mantras in the horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > i. > > Count > > > > the number of words in > > > > the mantra. Assign the corresponding number of > > > > bhävas as Point A. > > > > > > > > ii. > > Count > > > > the number of akñaras in > > > > the mantra. Assign the corresponding number of > > > > bhävas as Point B. > > > > > > > > iii. Count > > the > > > > number of bhävas from > > > > point A to point B. > > > > > > > > iv. Count > > that > > > > many bhävas from B and > > > > mark that Point C. > > > > > > > > v. > > Point A > > > > is from where the energy > > > > of the mantra is taken. > > > > > > > > vi. Point > > B is > > > > where the energy of the > > > > mantra is invested. > > > > > > > > vii. Point C > > is > > > > where the Mantra Devatä > > > > sits. > > > > > > > > viii. The > > number of > > > > words in the mantra > > > > indicates the number of mälä to be > chanted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples > > > > > > > > 1. Om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > > > > > > > > Number of words: 4 > > > > > > > > Number of akñaras: 12 > > > > > > > > Seat of the Mantra Devatä: 8th house > > > > > > > > Number of mälä: 4 > > > > > > > > The energy of the mantra is drawn from the 4th > > > > house, the hådaya of the > > > > devotee, and is invested in the 12th house, > > which is > > > > the paramam padam of > > > > Viñëu. Hence > dvädaçäkñaré mantras are very > > sätvik, > > > > as the energy from all > > > > such mantras are offered at the feet of > Viñëu, > > the > > > > 12th house representing > > > > the feet in the natural zodiac. The Mantra > > Devatä > > > > sits in the 8th house, > > > > cleansing our sins accumulated from our past > > births > > > > due to nija doña, for > > > > till the sins are burned one cannot embark on > > the > > > > mokña märga. Who else but > > > > Viñëu can burn our sins? The mantra > spans the > > mokña > > > > trikoëa, indicating that > > > > dvädaçäkñaré mantras > are aimed towards mokña. > > > > > > > > 2. Om namaù çiväya > > > > > > > > Number of words: 3 > > > > > > > > Number of akñaras: 6 > > > > > > > > Seat of the Mantra Devatä: 9th house > > > > > > > > Number of mälä: 3 > > > > > > > > The strength of the 3rd house is used to cleanse > > the > > > > ñaòripus represented in > > > > the 6th house. This cleansing is important > > before > > > > one can embark upon the > > > > path of dharma, which is the 9th house, the seat > > of > > > > the Mantra Devatä. It is > > > > Çiva alone who has the capacity to drink > the > > poison > > > > of his devotees and > > > > digest it, and that is why he is known as Hara > > (one > > > > who removes sins), > > > > Nélakaëöha, the Blue-Throated > One, blue because > > he > > > > has drunk the poison of > > > > the ripus of his devotees so that they can > > proceed > > > > on the dharma märga. > > > > > > > > 3. Namah Çiväya > > > > > > > > Number of words: 2 > > > > > > > > Number of akñaras: 5 > > > > > > > > Seat of the Mantra Devatä: 8th House > > > > > > > > Number of mälä: 2 > > > > > > > > The energy for this mantra is drawn from the 2nd > > > > house, the väca sthäna. All > > > > that is spoken, seen and eaten is transformed > > into > > > > knowledge in the 5th > > > > house. This knowledge is crucial for negating > > the > > > > ignorance accumulated over > > > > one's past births, embedded in the 8th house. > > This > > > > ignorance is that of > > > > satya, of not realizing the truth, which can > > only > > > > come from the light of > > > > gyäna that shines through the 5th house of > the > > > > natural zodiac. This gyäna is > > > > nothing but Brahmagyäna and none other than > Çiva > > can > > > > bless us with this > > > > knowledge. Hence the > païcäkñaré mantra of Çiva > > > > bestows knowledge and siddhi. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > [aarceemastro2002] > > > > Monday, March 21, 2005 8:15 PM > > > > vedic astrology; SJC List > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra Devta > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjay Rath Ji, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for sparing your valuable time for me. > > Now I > > > > could get the concept of > > > > approaching the appropriate houses where mantra > > > > devta should sit and to > > > > strengthen that house mantra jaap should be > > done. We > > > > should bear in mind > > > > that jaap should be done with the accurate > > > > syallables. But , while giving > > > > example of" Namah Shivaaya" mantra ,you have > > omitted > > > > the word "Om". > > > > This ommission is necessary or om is not > > prefixed > > > > namah shivaaya. > > > > However we shall meet next Sunday till then > > Pranaam. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Ramesh Mishra ji > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > The mantra you state is the most famous Narayana > > > > astakshari. Astakshari > > > > means eight akshara. > > > > Example -1: > > > > om na-mo naa-raa-ya-Naa-ya > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 = 8 > > akshara > > > > [Akshara = energy inflow, > > > > final result] = 8th house > > > > 1 2 3 = 3 > > words > > > > [Words = energy > > > > outflow, start of count] = 3rd house > > > > Now count from 3rd house to 8th house, we get 6 > > > > houses > > > > Now count as many houses from the 8th house. In > > this > > > > example we got 6 > > > > houses, so when we count six houses from 8th > > house, > > > > we get Lagna as the > > > > answer. > > > > Final result = Naarayana is in LAGNA. > > > > > > > > So the mantra devata Narayana sits in lagna and > > the > > > > recitation of this > > > > mantra gives good health, protection from all > > evils, > > > > long life and clear > > > > intellect. It is the greatest mantra for lagna > > > > suddhi and is one of the > > > > three mantras of the Narayana Kavacha. The > > greatest > > > > strength of this mantra > > > > is that it removes all kinds of nija dosha > > indicated > > > > by the 8th house or 8th > > > > lord and makes the lagna very strong. > > > > > > > > Now study the dhyana or the meditation of the > > mantra > > > > devata. It starts as > > > > 'dhyaye sadaa savitrimandala madhyavarti > > > > Naaraayana..' and the reference is > > > > to the Sun which is the significator of Lagna > > and > > > > that Naraayana is in the > > > > centre of the solar orb. > > > > > > > > The best mantras of the devatas always fall in > > the > > > > correct houses indicated > > > > for them. Then such mantra are called Prasiddha > > > > mantra and such mantra can > > > > only be originally given by the seers as they > > alone > > > > had such great sight and > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > Example -2: > > > > > > > > na-mah shi-vaa-ya > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 = 5 akshara = 5th > > house > > > > 1 2 = 2 words = 2nd > > house > > > > Count from 2nd house to 5th house, we get 4 > > houses > > > > Now count 4 houses from 5th house and we get 8th > > > > house. This is the house of > > > > Rudra and the panchakshari mantra has the power > > to > > > > give great knowledge as > > > > it cleanses the fifth house and finally this > > causes > > > > protection from all > > > > evils of 8th house where Shiva sits to protect > > you > > > > and grant longevity. > > > > > > > > In this manner study the following > > > > 1. Surya astakshari > > > > om ghri-ni suu-ry-aa-di-tya > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 = 8 akshara > > > > 1 2 3 = 3 words > > > > Mantra devata = 1st house (Lagna) > > > > What happens when this is pronounced differently > > by > > > > breaking surya and > > > > aaditya > > > > > > > > om ghri-ni suu-rya aa-di-tya > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8= 8 akshara > > > > 1 2 3 4 = 4 words > > > > Mantra devata = 12th house in marana karaka > > sthana > > > > See the change how the position of the mantra > > devata > > > > changes from Lagna to > > > > the 12th house which is the marana karaka sthana > > for > > > > Sun. > > > > Thus while reciting the mantra if the words are > > not > > > > spelt jointly as > > > > indicated it can do a lot of harm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Exercise > > > > > > > > 1. om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya > > > > 2. om namah shivaaya > > > > 3. om kshraum namo bhagavate narasimhaaya > > > > 4. om bhur namo bhagavate vyankateshaaya > > > > 5. brm brhaspataye namah > > > > 6. om namo bhagavate rudraaya > > > > 7. om namo bhagavate mahaamatsyaaya > > > > 8. gajamukha siddhirastu > > > > 9. hare raama krsNa > > > > 10. om hrim shrim krim paramesvari kaalike > > svaahaa > > > > 11. om namo bhagavate akuparaaya > > > > 12. vyam vedavyaasaaya namah > > > > > > > > ...just a start. I will give more exercise when > > we > > > > meet next sunday and > > > > explain from charts how to choose. > > > > > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > * * * > > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > > > > +91-11-25717162 > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > [aarceemastro2002] > > > > Monday, March 21, 2005 2:25 PM > > > > vedic Astrology; > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra Devta > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Namo Narayanaaya II > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjay Rath Ji, and Sarbani Ji, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > I attended your lectures on the abovementioned > > topic > > > > delivered by you on > > > > March 20, 2005. I could not have a clear concept > > on > > > > Mantra Devta. It is > > > > therefore requested that kindly spare few > > minutes > > > > for me and for list > > > > members as well to clarify the doubts. > > > > Mantra devta resides in the 4th house and the > > chosen > > > > mantra should be > > > > started from 4th house only .Is it correct ? > > > > Take for example I have selected a mantra > > viz".OM > > > > NAMO NARAYANAAYA ". > > > > This mantra has 3 words and 9 characters. If I > > start > > > > from 4th house then I > > > > have to go forward 3 houses away from fourth > > i.e.6th > > > > house and then again > > > > nine houses away from sixth house which comes to > > > > second house.Or, > > > > Should I start from 3rd house because this > > mantra > > > > has three words and go > > > > three houses away from 3rd house i.e.5th house > > and > > > > then nine houses away > > > > from 5th house i.e. Lagna.By choosing either of > > the > > > > method what is the > > > > result in respect of second house or lagna. > > > > While thinking about the selection of devta I am > > > > stuck up here regarding > > > > selection of the appropriate mantra. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Padma Ji, Namaskar Either you exclude, multiples of 12 ( eg., if the count is 14, less 12 is 2!) or you keep counting, then also you reach 2nd house ( fora count of 14). This applies to both letters & words. regards suryaviswanadham On Apr 2, 2005 2:10 AM, rahpad93 <rahpad93 wrote: > > > Can anyone comment on mantras which have more than 12 words. The > point A in this case would go a full circle around the chart. > > Padma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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