Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 "Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari, Namaskar Benefics in or lording the third or sixth from arudha lagna causes one to suffer defeat or loss, especially if those benefics are strong, whilst malefics make one victorious. So naturally if you have benefics in the 3rd/6th from AL, do not wear their gems. This is regardless of their lordship. Maya works in this society, i.e. how to you act in society is seen from the arudha lagna. If the 3rd and 6th from AL has benefics, then you are a peaceloving person who does not instigate any fights and shy’s away from any troubles. You are however not very succesful in life due to this. Now particularly if the two Rajasic planets; Venus and Mercury are in these bhavas, you may face alot of suffering in the areas of relationships (venus) and work (mercury) and end up renouncing the two. We are offcourse only talking about natural benefics. These are steps to becoming a Sadhu, see the charts of Srila Prabhupada, Ramana Maharishi and Swami Vivekananda and see where their Mercury and Venus are placed from the Arudha Lagna, and you will see the renunciate yoga working. But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets from AL to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled – the upapada. Jup, Venus and Merc in Lagna, whilst Jupiter is strong forms Sarasvati Yoga and gives excellent education and learning. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">hari [jupiterwisdom ] 29 March 2005 21:27 [Om Krishna Guru] queries 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear VistiJi, Namaste, In the archive given below regarding gem prescription , you wrote "not in 3rd or 6th from arudha lagna". Should one not wear gems of the lords of 3rd and 6th house from AL in general? or the comment was particular to the native in question. What if they are lord of auspicious houses in Rasi ( D-1) chart.( lagn lord, 5th, 9th house). How should we decide in that case? I have one other query. I recently found sadhu yoga in my horo from Jhoro software - only benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL. Now going by AL definition of maya, does this mean that the native looks like a saint to others or is he truly saintly in nature?. Also what is meant by benefics here.. natural or according to AL house ownerships. I was studying one chart.. Jup, venus,mer conjunct in 1st house virgo lagn.. does this form any yoga apart from effects of lordships these planets have in virgo lagn. All natural benefics in Lagn.? Kind regards and thanks Hari jupiterwisdom ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dear VistiJi, Namaste, Thank you for your kind reply and the explanation of my questions. Although I do not have Mer and venus in 3rd and 6th from AL, I have waxing Moon and Jupiter ( and yes both are strong) in these houses. you mentioned Mer and venus placement effect on work and relationships respectively leading to renunciation. What about Jupiter and moon? - which areas of life will affect. I agree with you that I am a peaceloving person. I believe in Live and let live and each to its own principles of life, since all thoughts are but different manifestations of god. Hence I find too much arguments frivolous but I do not shy away from troubles. I do not consider myself at all as saintly or someone even near to saintly nature but I try to be a good human being. I did find sadhu yoga as mentioned by you in Swami Vivekananda chart but did not find it in Shri Ramana Maharishi chart( Mer, venus placed in 11th from AL). The chart came with JHoro software and the time given is 30/12/1879, time: 1.00 AM, Pondicherry India. I did not have the birth data of Shri Srila Prabhupada. >>But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets from AL to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled – the upapada. I am not very clear about this. Did you mean that for renunciation... the same condition should be fulfilled from UL also?. I found it ( i.e 3rd and 6th - benefics) from UL in swami Vivekananda chart as his AL and UL is same. As for Saraswati Yoga, I am aware of it but I think for that Jupiter should be in exalted/own/friendly rashi in a Kendra/2nd.and Jupiter in Virgo is in inimical rashi. you mentioned "Strong" Jupiter - does this mean strong in other strengths i.e shadbala etc.. regardless of the rashi where jupiter is placed. one query comes in my mind from our previous discussion on KSY. if one has all the planets on the left side of the ketu- rahu axis. for eg ketu in 1st house and planets in 2,3 etc houses and rahu in 7th house in navamsa.. will this form Kala amrita yoga. Kind regards and thanks Hari jupiterwisdom , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > Benefics in or lording the third or sixth from arudha lagna causes one to > suffer defeat or loss, especially if those benefics are strong, whilst > malefics make one victorious. So naturally if you have benefics in the > 3rd/6th from AL, do not wear their gems. > > This is regardless of their lordship. > > > > Maya works in this society, i.e. how to you act in society is seen from the > arudha lagna. If the 3rd and 6th from AL has benefics, then you are a > peaceloving person who does not instigate any fights and shy's away from any > troubles. You are however not very succesful in life due to this. Now > particularly if the two Rajasic planets; Venus and Mercury are in these > bhavas, you may face alot of suffering in the areas of relationships (venus) > and work (mercury) and end up renouncing the two. We are offcourse only > talking about natural benefics. > > These are steps to becoming a Sadhu, see the charts of Srila Prabhupada, > Ramana Maharishi and Swami Vivekananda and see where their Mercury and Venus > are placed from the Arudha Lagna, and you will see the renunciate yoga > working. > > > > But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets from AL > to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled - the > upapada. > > > > Jup, Venus and Merc in Lagna, whilst Jupiter is strong forms Sarasvati Yoga > and gives excellent education and learning. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > 29 March 2005 21:27 > > [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > Namaste, > > In the archive given below regarding gem prescription , you > wrote "not in 3rd or 6th from arudha lagna". Should one not wear gems > of the lords of 3rd and 6th house from AL in general? or the comment > was particular to the native in question. What if they are lord of > auspicious houses in Rasi ( D-1) chart.( lagn lord, 5th, 9th house). > How should we decide in that case? > > I have one other query. I recently found sadhu yoga in my horo from > Jhoro software - only benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL. Now going by > AL definition of maya, does this mean that the native looks like a > saint to others or is he truly saintly in nature?. Also what is meant > by benefics here.. natural or according to AL house ownerships. > > I was studying one chart.. Jup, venus,mer conjunct in 1st house virgo > lagn.. does this form any yoga apart from effects of lordships these > planets have in virgo lagn. All natural benefics in Lagn.? > > Kind regards and thanks > Hari > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 "Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">hari [jupiterwisdom ] 30 March 2005 16:54 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] queries 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear VistiJi, Namaste, Thank you for your kind reply and the explanation of my questions. 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">[Visti] You are welcome. font-family:"Courier New""> Although I do not have Mer and venus in 3rd and 6th from AL, I have waxing Moon and Jupiter ( and yes both are strong) in these houses. you mentioned Mer and venus placement effect on work and relationships respectively leading to renunciation. What about Jupiter and moon? - which areas of life will affect. italic">[Visti] Family/home and wealth. I agree with you that I am a peaceloving person. I believe in Live and let live and each to its own principles of life, since all thoughts are but different manifestations of god. Hence I find too much arguments frivolous but I do not shy away from troubles. I do not consider myself at all as saintly or someone even near to saintly nature but I try to be a good human being. I did find sadhu yoga as mentioned by you in Swami Vivekananda chart but did not find it in Shri Ramana Maharishi chart( Mer, venus placed in 11th from AL). The chart came with JHoro software and the time given is 30/12/1879, time: 1.00 AM, Pondicherry India. I did not have the birth data of Shri Srila Prabhupada. italic">[Visti] You should get Sri Ramana Maharishi’s chart with Libra Lagna, and Venus and Mercury are placed in the 12th from arudha lagna, showing that he rejected relationships and karma yoga. He never took formal renunciation, he just rejected those paths. >>But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets from AL to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled – the upapada. I am not very clear about this. Did you mean that for renunciation... the same condition should be fulfilled from UL also?. I found it ( i.e 3rd and 6th - benefics) from UL in swami Vivekananda chart as his AL and UL is same. italic">[Visti] No, i never indicated how to see this. I will write an article about this. As for Saraswati Yoga, I am aware of it but I think for that Jupiter should be in exalted/own/friendly rashi in a Kendra/2nd.and Jupiter in Virgo is in inimical rashi. you mentioned "Strong" Jupiter - does this mean strong in other strengths i.e shadbala etc.. regardless of the rashi where jupiter is placed. italic">[Visti] Jupiter being strong usually refers to its dignity in exaltation/own sign. one query comes in my mind from our previous discussion on KSY. if one has all the planets on the left side of the ketu- rahu axis. for eg ketu in 1st house and planets in 2,3 etc houses and rahu in 7th house in navamsa.. will this form Kala amrita yoga. italic">[Visti] The definition of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga depends on which of the two nodes is in the lead, i.e. heading the row of planets. To figure this out start by looking at rahu and go zodiacally forward until you get to ketu. If you pass all the planets whilst doing this, then its Kala Amrita Yoga, as Ketu is at the end of the chain. If instead Rahu is at the end of the chain then it is Kala Sarpa Yoga. Kind regards and thanks Hari jupiterwisdom , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > Benefics in or lording the third or sixth from arudha lagna causes one to > suffer defeat or loss, especially if those benefics are strong, whilst > malefics make one victorious. So naturally if you have benefics in the > 3rd/6th from AL, do not wear their gems. > > This is regardless of their lordship. > > > > Maya works in this society, i.e. how to you act in society is seen from the > arudha lagna. If the 3rd and 6th from AL has benefics, then you are a > peaceloving person who does not instigate any fights and shy's away from any > troubles. You are however not very succesful in life due to this. Now > particularly if the two Rajasic planets; Venus and Mercury are in these > bhavas, you may face alot of suffering in the areas of relationships (venus) > and work (mercury) and end up renouncing the two. We are offcourse only > talking about natural benefics. > > These are steps to becoming a Sadhu, see the charts of Srila Prabhupada, > Ramana Maharishi and Swami Vivekananda and see where their Mercury and Venus > are placed from the Arudha Lagna, and you will see the renunciate yoga > working. > > > > But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets from AL > to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled - the > upapada. > > > > Jup, Venus and Merc in Lagna, whilst Jupiter is strong forms Sarasvati Yoga > and gives excellent education and learning. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > 29 March 2005 21:27 > > [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > Namaste, > > In the archive given below regarding gem prescription , you > wrote "not in 3rd or 6th from arudha lagna". Should one not wear gems > of the lords of 3rd and 6th house from AL in general? or the comment > was particular to the native in question. What if they are lord of > auspicious houses in Rasi ( D-1) chart.( lagn lord, 5th, 9th house). > How should we decide in that case? > > I have one other query. I recently found sadhu yoga in my horo from > Jhoro software - only benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL. Now going by > AL definition of maya, does this mean that the native looks like a > saint to others or is he truly saintly in nature?. Also what is meant > by benefics here.. natural or according to AL house ownerships. > > I was studying one chart.. Jup, venus,mer conjunct in 1st house virgo > lagn.. does this form any yoga apart from effects of lordships these > planets have in virgo lagn. All natural benefics in Lagn.? > > Kind regards and thanks > Hari > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > > > > > > > > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > > > > > > > > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dear Visti I wanted some clarity on 12th from Arudha lagna. You say that planets paths in the 12th from AL are rejected, Viz Ramana Maharshi rejected Venus and mercurial paths. I wanted to know whether it is a "rejection" or a tangible loss. in older mails we had talked about gains from 11th from AL and loss from 12th from AL, now where does the rejection theme fit in? What do you say of planets like rahu and saturn. Dont they cause loss to the person concerned best wishes partha , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > 30 March 2005 16:54 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > Namaste, > > Thank you for your kind reply and the explanation of my questions. > > > > [Visti] You are welcome. > > > Although I do not have Mer and venus in 3rd and 6th from AL, I have > waxing Moon and Jupiter ( and yes both are strong) in these houses. > you mentioned Mer and venus placement effect on work and > relationships respectively leading to renunciation. What about > Jupiter and moon? - which areas of life will affect. > [Visti] Family/home and wealth. > I agree with you that I am a peaceloving person. I believe in Live > and let live and each to its own principles of life, since all > thoughts are but different manifestations of god. Hence I find too > much arguments frivolous but I do not shy away from troubles. I do > not consider myself at all as saintly or someone even near to saintly > nature but I try to be a good human being. > > I did find sadhu yoga as mentioned by you in Swami Vivekananda chart > but did not find it in Shri Ramana Maharishi chart( Mer, venus placed > in 11th from AL). The chart came with JHoro software and the time > given is 30/12/1879, time: 1.00 AM, Pondicherry India. I did not have > the birth data of Shri Srila Prabhupada. > [Visti] You should get Sri Ramana Maharishi's chart with Libra Lagna, and > Venus and Mercury are placed in the 12th from arudha lagna, showing that he > rejected relationships and karma yoga. He never took formal renunciation, he > just rejected those paths. > >>But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets > from AL to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be > fulfilled - the upapada. > > I am not very clear about this. Did you mean that for renunciation... > the same condition should be fulfilled from UL also?. I found it ( > i.e 3rd and 6th - benefics) from UL in swami Vivekananda chart as his > AL and UL is same. > [Visti] No, i never indicated how to see this. I will write an article about > this. > As for Saraswati Yoga, I am aware of it but I think for that Jupiter > should be in exalted/own/friendly rashi in a Kendra/2nd.and Jupiter > in Virgo is in inimical rashi. you mentioned "Strong" Jupiter - does > this mean strong in other strengths i.e shadbala etc.. regardless of > the rashi where jupiter is placed. > [Visti] Jupiter being strong usually refers to its dignity in exaltation/own > sign. > one query comes in my mind from our previous discussion on KSY. if > one has all the planets on the left side of the ketu- rahu axis. for > eg ketu in 1st house and planets in 2,3 etc houses and rahu in 7th > house in navamsa.. will this form Kala amrita yoga. > [Visti] The definition of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga depends on which of the two > nodes is in the lead, i.e. heading the row of planets. > > To figure this out start by looking at rahu and go zodiacally forward until > you get to ketu. If you pass all the planets whilst doing this, then its > Kala Amrita Yoga, as Ketu is at the end of the chain. If instead Rahu is at > the end of the chain then it is Kala Sarpa Yoga. > Kind regards and thanks > Hari > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > > > Benefics in or lording the third or sixth from arudha lagna causes > one to > > suffer defeat or loss, especially if those benefics are strong, > whilst > > malefics make one victorious. So naturally if you have benefics in > the > > 3rd/6th from AL, do not wear their gems. > > > > This is regardless of their lordship. > > > > > > > > Maya works in this society, i.e. how to you act in society is seen > from the > > arudha lagna. If the 3rd and 6th from AL has benefics, then you are > a > > peaceloving person who does not instigate any fights and shy's away > from any > > troubles. You are however not very succesful in life due to this. > Now > > particularly if the two Rajasic planets; Venus and Mercury are in > these > > bhavas, you may face alot of suffering in the areas of > relationships (venus) > > and work (mercury) and end up renouncing the two. We are offcourse > only > > talking about natural benefics. > > > > These are steps to becoming a Sadhu, see the charts of Srila > Prabhupada, > > Ramana Maharishi and Swami Vivekananda and see where their Mercury > and Venus > > are placed from the Arudha Lagna, and you will see the renunciate > yoga > > working. > > > > > > > > But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets > from AL > > to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled - > the > > upapada. > > > > > > > > Jup, Venus and Merc in Lagna, whilst Jupiter is strong forms > Sarasvati Yoga > > and gives excellent education and learning. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > > 29 March 2005 21:27 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > > > Namaste, > > > > In the archive given below regarding gem prescription , you > > wrote "not in 3rd or 6th from arudha lagna". Should one not wear > gems > > of the lords of 3rd and 6th house from AL in general? or the > comment > > was particular to the native in question. What if they are lord of > > auspicious houses in Rasi ( D-1) chart.( lagn lord, 5th, 9th > house). > > How should we decide in that case? > > > > I have one other query. I recently found sadhu yoga in my horo from > > Jhoro software - only benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL. Now going by > > AL definition of maya, does this mean that the native looks like a > > saint to others or is he truly saintly in nature?. Also what is > meant > > by benefics here.. natural or according to AL house ownerships. > > > > I was studying one chart.. Jup, venus,mer conjunct in 1st house > virgo > > lagn.. does this form any yoga apart from effects of lordships > these > > planets have in virgo lagn. All natural benefics in Lagn.? > > > > Kind regards and thanks > > Hari > > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Click > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Click > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=332618.5923858.6999527.2152211/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2535374/rand=990174628> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Visti Ji and Partha Ji, Good discussion, may I add. I have learnt that the Rahu or Sat if placed in 12th from AL gives a Raja Yoga too, can you please tell me is this correct or not ? Regards Raghunatha Rao , "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Visti > > I wanted some clarity on 12th from Arudha lagna. > You say that planets paths in the 12th from AL are rejected, Viz > Ramana Maharshi rejected Venus and mercurial paths. > I wanted to know whether it is a "rejection" or a tangible loss. > in older mails we had talked about gains from 11th from AL and loss > from 12th from AL, now where does the rejection theme fit in? > What do you say of planets like rahu and saturn. Dont they cause loss > to the person concerned > best wishes > partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Visti, What would combination of Mars, Mercury and Venus mean if 12th from AL; renounce materialism, force, etc. Regards, Mike Mensaje citado por Raghunatha RaoNemani : > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Visti Ji and Partha Ji, > > > > Good discussion, may I add. > > > > I have learnt that the Rahu or Sat if placed in 12th from AL > > gives a Raja Yoga too, can you please tell me is this correct > > or not ? > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > , "V.Partha sarathy" > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti > > > > > > I wanted some clarity on 12th from Arudha lagna. > > > You say that planets paths in the 12th from AL are rejected, Viz > > > Ramana Maharshi rejected Venus and mercurial paths. > > > I wanted to know whether it is a "rejection" or a tangible loss. > > > in older mails we had talked about gains from 11th from AL and loss > > > from 12th from AL, now where does the rejection theme fit in? > > > What do you say of planets like rahu and saturn. Dont they cause > > loss > > > to the person concerned > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Children International > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > · > Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > > > > > · > Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > Learn More > > > > > > > > Links > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TERRA NETWORKS PERU S.A. - Servicio de Correo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Dear VistiJi, Namaste, Thanks for kind reply and the answers. Kind regards Hari jupiterwisdom , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > 30 March 2005 16:54 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > Namaste, > > Thank you for your kind reply and the explanation of my questions. > > > > [Visti] You are welcome. > > > Although I do not have Mer and venus in 3rd and 6th from AL, I have > waxing Moon and Jupiter ( and yes both are strong) in these houses. > you mentioned Mer and venus placement effect on work and > relationships respectively leading to renunciation. What about > Jupiter and moon? - which areas of life will affect. > [Visti] Family/home and wealth. > I agree with you that I am a peaceloving person. I believe in Live > and let live and each to its own principles of life, since all > thoughts are but different manifestations of god. Hence I find too > much arguments frivolous but I do not shy away from troubles. I do > not consider myself at all as saintly or someone even near to saintly > nature but I try to be a good human being. > > I did find sadhu yoga as mentioned by you in Swami Vivekananda chart > but did not find it in Shri Ramana Maharishi chart( Mer, venus placed > in 11th from AL). The chart came with JHoro software and the time > given is 30/12/1879, time: 1.00 AM, Pondicherry India. I did not have > the birth data of Shri Srila Prabhupada. > [Visti] You should get Sri Ramana Maharishi's chart with Libra Lagna, and > Venus and Mercury are placed in the 12th from arudha lagna, showing that he > rejected relationships and karma yoga. He never took formal renunciation, he > just rejected those paths. > >>But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets > from AL to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be > fulfilled - the upapada. > > I am not very clear about this. Did you mean that for renunciation... > the same condition should be fulfilled from UL also?. I found it ( > i.e 3rd and 6th - benefics) from UL in swami Vivekananda chart as his > AL and UL is same. > [Visti] No, i never indicated how to see this. I will write an article about > this. > As for Saraswati Yoga, I am aware of it but I think for that Jupiter > should be in exalted/own/friendly rashi in a Kendra/2nd.and Jupiter > in Virgo is in inimical rashi. you mentioned "Strong" Jupiter - does > this mean strong in other strengths i.e shadbala etc.. regardless of > the rashi where jupiter is placed. > [Visti] Jupiter being strong usually refers to its dignity in exaltation/own > sign. > one query comes in my mind from our previous discussion on KSY. if > one has all the planets on the left side of the ketu- rahu axis. for > eg ketu in 1st house and planets in 2,3 etc houses and rahu in 7th > house in navamsa.. will this form Kala amrita yoga. > [Visti] The definition of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga depends on which of the two > nodes is in the lead, i.e. heading the row of planets. > > To figure this out start by looking at rahu and go zodiacally forward until > you get to ketu. If you pass all the planets whilst doing this, then its > Kala Amrita Yoga, as Ketu is at the end of the chain. If instead Rahu is at > the end of the chain then it is Kala Sarpa Yoga. > Kind regards and thanks > Hari > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Hari, Namaskar > > > > Benefics in or lording the third or sixth from arudha lagna causes > one to > > suffer defeat or loss, especially if those benefics are strong, > whilst > > malefics make one victorious. So naturally if you have benefics in > the > > 3rd/6th from AL, do not wear their gems. > > > > This is regardless of their lordship. > > > > > > > > Maya works in this society, i.e. how to you act in society is seen > from the > > arudha lagna. If the 3rd and 6th from AL has benefics, then you are > a > > peaceloving person who does not instigate any fights and shy's away > from any > > troubles. You are however not very succesful in life due to this. > Now > > particularly if the two Rajasic planets; Venus and Mercury are in > these > > bhavas, you may face alot of suffering in the areas of > relationships (venus) > > and work (mercury) and end up renouncing the two. We are offcourse > only > > talking about natural benefics. > > > > These are steps to becoming a Sadhu, see the charts of Srila > Prabhupada, > > Ramana Maharishi and Swami Vivekananda and see where their Mercury > and Venus > > are placed from the Arudha Lagna, and you will see the renunciate > yoga > > working. > > > > > > > > But it takes abit more than just the placement of these two planets > from AL > > to make one renounce... one more rider is required to be fulfilled - > the > > upapada. > > > > > > > > Jup, Venus and Merc in Lagna, whilst Jupiter is strong forms > Sarasvati Yoga > > and gives excellent education and learning. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > hari [jupiterwisdom@g...] > > 29 March 2005 21:27 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] queries > > > > > > > > > > Dear VistiJi, > > > > Namaste, > > > > In the archive given below regarding gem prescription , you > > wrote "not in 3rd or 6th from arudha lagna". Should one not wear > gems > > of the lords of 3rd and 6th house from AL in general? or the > comment > > was particular to the native in question. What if they are lord of > > auspicious houses in Rasi ( D-1) chart.( lagn lord, 5th, 9th > house). > > How should we decide in that case? > > > > I have one other query. I recently found sadhu yoga in my horo from > > Jhoro software - only benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL. Now going by > > AL definition of maya, does this mean that the native looks like a > > saint to others or is he truly saintly in nature?. Also what is > meant > > by benefics here.. natural or according to AL house ownerships. > > > > I was studying one chart.. Jup, venus,mer conjunct in 1st house > virgo > > lagn.. does this form any yoga apart from effects of lordships > these > > planets have in virgo lagn. All natural benefics in Lagn.? > > > > Kind regards and thanks > > Hari > > jupiterwisdom@g... > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Click > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Click > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129of34sg/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 > 1/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112217021/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: > /child > > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? > _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=332618.5923858.6999527.2152211/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2535374/rand=990174628> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > > > Children International > > > > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 72&s=f&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > . > > Click > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1298nka0c/M=332618.5923858.6999527.215221 1/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1112282137/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http: /child > ren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf? _function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=8 > 71&s=m&hostName=Children%20International> Learn More > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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