Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Dear Susan, Could you send the full chart in question? >I would appreciate anyone's comments on the effects of the nodes in >reversal by transit, i.e. transiting Ketu conjunct natal Rahu and >transiting Rahu conjunct natal Ketu. In the chart I am looking at, >the nodes are in 4/10, natal Rahu in 4th house (Libra) and natal Ketu >in 10th house (Aries). How would this transit effect the native? Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotishi http://www.radhadesh.com http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html http://.org/education/dhira_krsna_das.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Dhira, This transit happened with me a few years ago and it has changed my life for ever.I too have the nodes in the 4/10 axis.To put in in a line I can say that this transit makes one comes out of illusions [Rahu] and makes one over come our mistakes [Ketu].I do believe the padas joined the nodes will be effected.There will be a change also in the spiritual nature of the person.Perhaps this is the time the native over comes alot of desires and grows out of them.The bhavas and the padas will under go the changes.In a way alot of undesirable things get out of the native's life like a cleansing process. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. - "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS [Om Krishna Guru] Transiting Nodes in Reversal Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:35 +0100 > > Dear Susan, > > Could you send the full chart in question? > > > I would appreciate anyone's comments on the effects of the nodes in > > reversal by transit, i.e. transiting Ketu conjunct natal Rahu and > > transiting Rahu conjunct natal Ketu. In the chart I am looking at, > > the nodes are in 4/10, natal Rahu in 4th house (Libra) and natal Ketu > > in 10th house (Aries). How would this transit effect the native? > > Yours, > Dhira Krsna dasa, > Jyotishi > http://www.radhadesh.com > http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html > http://.org/education/dhira_krsna_das.html -- _____________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dear Dhira, In my humble opinion, and just very generally, I have seen that the Nodal Reversal/transit may be a time when our capcity to exercise free will is more limited and we feel more controlled by forces of fate than usual. This is often a time when we experience reversals of plans and fortunes. Best, Juliana Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 <<This transit happened with me a few years ago and it has changed my life for ever.I too have the nodes in the 4/10 axis.To put in in a line I can say that this transit makes one comes out of illusions [Rahu] and makes one over come our mistakes [Ketu].I do believe the padas joined the nodes will be effected.There will be a change also in the spiritual nature of the person.Perhaps this is the time the native over comes alot of desires and grows out of them.The bhavas and the padas will under go the changes.In a way alot of undesirable things get out of the native's life like a cleansing process.>> > > Best Wishes, > Kanupriya>> ___________ Dear Kanupriya, Thanks for your response to my post regarding nodes in reversal by transit. I have heard many people also report that their life changed dramatically and forever under this transit. In what ways did your life change? The transit of Ketu over natal Rahu definitely seems to destroy Rahu's illusions. Transit of Rahu over Ketu seems cause sudden unexpected desires to resurface, where one had thought Ketu had removed them. So there is an odd "push-pull" to this transit. The serpent "flips back on its own tail", as it were, causing a lot of "thrashing around" in life! It also seems to cause a revisiting of issues that occurred during the previous 9 year Ra/Ke half-cycle, i.e. during the last Ra/Ke return to their natal positions. As for changes in the spiritual nature of the person, the transit does seem to cause radical changes and challenges spiritually. This is particularly true in this chart, as Rahu is AK and is conjoined natal Jupiter in Rasi chart. So the spiritual cleansing, purification and transformation is particularly profound under this transit. Thanks for your thoughts. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 , Juliana Swanson <omhamsa> wrote: <<I have seen that the Nodal Reversal/transit may be a time when our capcity to exercise free will is more limited and we feel more controlled by forces of fate than usual. This is often a time when we experience reversals of plans and fortunes. > > Best, > Juliana Swanson ________ Dear Juliana, Thank you for your response to my posting regarding nodal reversal by transit. Yes, I would agree with you. It seems to cause reversals and restrictions in plans and fortunes, as transiting Ketu frustrates the desires of Rahu, and transiting Rahu rekindles desires that Ketu had long-since annihilated and removed. The transit seems to cause a lot of turmoil and angst, as a result. Fate does seem to take over under this transit, despite even Herculean efforts of self-assertion and self-effort. Misfortunes arise from events beyond our control, often with an unknown or hidden agenda. The transit seems to create a strong sense of dissatisfaction and desire, even urgency, for change. Yet Fate seems to conspire to frustrate those desires. So one really feels "caught in the noose of the serpent, devouring its own tail". Thanks for your thoughts and insights. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Dear Susan and Respected List Members, Thanks for this interesting discussion. I often wonder if having the nodes reversed from the Rasi to the Navamsa chart (as I have it) will manifest a similar, albeit more chronic, dynamic as having the nodes reversed by transit? In a similar vein, Rahu placed in Ketu's Nakshatra and Ketu placed in Rahu's Nakshatra may create a dynamic similar to the nodal reversal, as well. I would also be interested to understand more fully what it generally means to have a preponderance of graha placed in the Nakshatras of Rahu and Ketu in the natal chart? In other words, generally, what would be the tone of such a chart? Any ideas on this? Thanks so much, Juliana Swanson --- bluelotusflwr <abalonemoon wrote: > > , Juliana Swanson > <omhamsa> > wrote: > <<I have seen that the Nodal Reversal/transit may be > a time when our > capcity to exercise free will is more limited and we > feel more > controlled by forces of fate than usual. This is > often a time when we > experience reversals of plans and fortunes. > > > > Best, > > Juliana Swanson > ________ > Dear Juliana, > > Thank you for your response to my posting regarding > nodal reversal by > transit. Yes, I would agree with you. It seems to > cause reversals > and restrictions in plans and fortunes, as > transiting Ketu frustrates > the desires of Rahu, and transiting Rahu rekindles > desires that Ketu > had long-since annihilated and removed. The transit > seems to cause a > lot of turmoil and angst, as a result. > > Fate does seem to take over under this transit, > despite even > Herculean efforts of self-assertion and self-effort. > Misfortunes > arise from events beyond our control, often with an > unknown or hidden > agenda. The transit seems to create a strong sense > of > dissatisfaction and desire, even urgency, for > change. Yet Fate seems > to conspire to frustrate those desires. So one > really feels "caught > in the noose of the serpent, devouring its own > tail". > > Thanks for your thoughts and insights. > > Susan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 We might also consider that Ketu crossing Rahu might suddenly fulfill Rahu's desires or release us from those desires, and Rahu crossing Ketu may make us desire to focus most on Moksha and higher understanding. Blessings, Julli , "bluelotusflwr" <abalonemoon@a...> wrote: > > , Juliana Swanson <omhamsa> > wrote: > <<I have seen that the Nodal Reversal/transit may be a time when our > capcity to exercise free will is more limited and we feel more > controlled by forces of fate than usual. This is often a time when we > experience reversals of plans and fortunes. > > > > Best, > > Juliana Swanson > ________ > Dear Juliana, > > Thank you for your response to my posting regarding nodal reversal by > transit. Yes, I would agree with you. It seems to cause reversals > and restrictions in plans and fortunes, as transiting Ketu frustrates > the desires of Rahu, and transiting Rahu rekindles desires that Ketu > had long-since annihilated and removed. The transit seems to cause a > lot of turmoil and angst, as a result. > > Fate does seem to take over under this transit, despite even > Herculean efforts of self-assertion and self-effort. Misfortunes > arise from events beyond our control, often with an unknown or hidden > agenda. The transit seems to create a strong sense of > dissatisfaction and desire, even urgency, for change. Yet Fate seems > to conspire to frustrate those desires. So one really feels "caught > in the noose of the serpent, devouring its own tail". > > Thanks for your thoughts and insights. > > Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 In a message dated 3/23/05 9:16:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, julli writes: << We might also consider that Ketu crossing Rahu might suddenly fulfill Rahu's desires or release us from those desires>> Desires tend to release either by being fulfilled or by being thwarted to the point that we give up on them. I would think that Ketu would cause the latter, i.e. desires thwarted or suddenly lost, but I have also seen Ketu bring sudden and unexpected gains. Have you seen this? Has this been your experience? <<Rahu crossing Ketu may make us desire to focus most on Moksha and higher understanding. >> I would think that Rahu crossing Ketu would bring Ketu down more into the material desires of Rahu. Whereas, Ketu crossing Rahu would release those desires and move our attention to Moksha because the desires are thwarted and lost. I think this is why I find this transit so confusing to read. Because it seems to cause opposite pulls, towards worldly desires and towards moksha, simultaneously. So the native really becomes entwined in the strangle-hold of the serpent, as it were. When Rahu/Ketu are in return, i.e. conjuncting their natal positions, they are at least replicating their original propensities in the chart. But in reversal (opposition), they are contradicting their natal positions. Also, true to their nature, they both seem to create a kind of confusion, emotional turmoil, and lack of clarity, inherently. Thanks for your thoughts, Julli. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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