Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Hi Surya, I have got two such cases:Time may be wrong I don't remember.You just find out. 1)birth Details:DOB:13 Aug 1973 Time:20:35 Place:Nasik 2)DOB:21 jan 1969 Time:pisces rising Place:Mumbai 1)first Chart:He has done Engg and Marketing in reputed indutries.Lots of travelling.He has Aq rising with Mars in 3rd house.But Jup and Mon in 12th house. Since Mars in strongest his Lagna chart I ahve seen powerful.Too much travelling.Jupiter debi in 12th, drunker and non-veg eater.Sat + Ketu in 5th house,too much indulge in sexual activity and might be going to prostitue also.These guy doesn't know me,But I know him very well,through some source as working in same company.All the time showing emotions to girls and trying to take advantage of them 2)Chart.Pices rising and Moon + Venus in 12th.However Sat + Rahu in Lagna and Jup + Ketu in 7thhouse. He is sweet spoken,fearful person and not at all good in sex.In fact left doing sex ages ago.Just had a son 4 months a go because of pressure from parents.He takes care very well of wife and kid,but no love making as her wife complaints.Not at all romantic.Not at all talkative. If you see above two examples.Planets in Lagna chart have more strength than putting it as Moon chart. However see this example:DOB:2 jul 1970 Time:Aq Lagna Place:Mumbai Rahu in lagna.But 5th house contains moon,mars,sun and mer.I know this girl,very very gemini.All qualities of gemini and life is also like gemini person.She is secretary.Very joly,sweet and taking care person.Rather than her body she follows her mind and always ends up in a middle of no where. Very rare cases you willfind perfect prediction as per moon chart. --- surya vishnu <surya_prakashvi wrote: > > Shripal, > > I have often wondered how to use moon sign in > predictions ... its never very clear to me .. > > I was just wondering ... what if moon is in 12th or > 2nd from lagna? it then denotes an interesting case > where each planet shows that the mind destroys what > the physical situations indicated by lagna or vice > versa ... > > any thoughts? > > > > > Shripal <d_shripal wrote: > > Hi ALL, > > I will tell you ,How I follow and what I have > understood from my experience and Learnings. > > 1)Take any one's chart and first check Lagna.Give a > strength in per centage wise to Lagna.Consider only > Kendra and Trine places.similarly for a Moon chart > and > Sun chart. > > But while predicting for lets say health or Body > related issues only consider Lagna. > > When Moon chart is stronger than rest,I take it as > Body follows mind.So person is going to do Karma > more > over related to Mind and Body has to obey that. > You can take Moon chart only when to many planets > are > aspecting Moon or some how in relation to Moon. > > As I never considr Sun chart,because he feel to do > that,But as mind and Body is over burden to soul,so > you will never hear to soul,other than some > exception > cases.What is Ahar or eating of food means :"Atma hi > Har" or "Loss of Soul".But we do eat food every > day,even it is afflicting to ur soul.So I Sun chart > has never helped me. > > So you can determine lot's of things through Lagna > chart.But if Moon chart is too strong compare to > Lagna > chart.Because of his lots of desire in mind, he will > acheieve those things.But he should have desire for > same. > > It is not my speculation nor read it from > somewhere.It > is what I have thought about and as per analysis,I > hav > concluded,What I have return.I will always correct > myself,I welcome views from others. > > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" > wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh > > > > I have met many old people whose charts i have > read, > > but did not > > specifically use Surya lagna to make predictions. > > What we are talking is rooted in the philosophical > > basis of our > > existence. The trikona of lagna(body), Moon(mind), > > Sun(atma) decide > > the way we perform our karma in the world. > Scholars > > might have given > > the the different grouping as people tend to > mature > > with age. And > > after 90 the mature person probably starts feeling > > that he is > > instrument of divine will and hence navamsa lagna > > can be taken. > > > > Again this is purely my speculation, and need not > be > > the only way of > > looking at things. > > > > On a different note, Have you heard of > padanathamsa > > and lagnamsaka > > dasas? > > > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "rambal9" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Parthaji and Sanjay Rathji, > > > From your experience of having seen so many > > charts, do you think > > > that it is correct? (please don't think I am > > trying to see it as > > > black or white, but I am just trying to learn > > here. thx.). ie. from > > > 0-30 lagna , 30-60 moon lagna and 60-90 sun > lagna > > should be used. > > in > > > case if we use these versions do the predictions > > or events come > > > true?. or if we use moon lagna for a person in > > between 30-60, then > > > his life happens according to graha positions > from > > moon lagna > > > (atleast most of the times), is it correct?. > > > > > > thanks > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha > > Sarathy > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Imran > > > > > > > > I have read a different version(may be my > > grandfather mentions it) > > > > for 0-30-lagna > > > > 30-60-moon lagna > > > > 60-90-sun lagna > > > > 90 -120- navamsa lagna > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:41:16 +0530, Sanjay > Rath > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > Dear Imran > > > > > Come on, you know better than that. What she > > wanted to say > > > probably was > > > > > 'Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > > and Orissa, not > > > ONLY use the > > > > > Lagna and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna > > as well'. The typo > > > is in red. > > > > > In fact the lagna is used for childhood, > > chandra lagna for > > > middle age and > > > > > surya lagna for old age. There are other > > systems for this as > > > well. > > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > * * * > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Muhammad Imran > [astroimran] > > > > > Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > This is amazing that eastern Indian school > of > > jyotish do not > > > consider Lagna > > > > > and Moon, and solely consider Karaka Lagna > > (naisargik, sthira > > or > > > char ?). > > > > > Infact this added my little know-how about > > ancient jyotish > > > traditions. > > > > > > > > > > Replying to you, another confusion is > raising > > in mind, and I > > > hope you would > > > > > answer. Does Karaka itself stand for > > particular physical entity > > > and their > > > > > specifics, viz, father, mother, brother etc. > > OR the house after > > > reckoned > > > > > from karaka. That is mother is to see from > > Moon OR 4th from > > > Moon. Father is > > > > > from the Sun OR 9th from the Sun. > > > > > > > > > > And what house should be taken to analyse > > specifics (general > > > matters, gain > > > > > or loss) of any entity. For example, what > > house should see for > > > education of > > > > > mother, Moon itself, OR 4th from Moon, OR > 4th > > from 4th of Moon? > > > Similarly, > > > > > for profession of younger brother, 10th from > > Mars OR 12th (ie. > > > 10th from > > > > > 3rd) from Mars should consider. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar wrote: > > > > > Dear Imran. > > > > > > > > > > Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > > and Orissa, not use > > > the Lagna > > > > > and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Muhammad Imran > [astroimran] > > > > > Monday, March 14, 2005 5:42 PM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannath, > > > > > > > > > > Very good delineation. I am of your mind > that > > chandra kundali > > > (moon chart) > > > > > should simultaneously analyze besides rashi > > from lagna. Not > > only > > > to know our > > > > > mental make-up but also for general phalit > via > > dasha and > > gochar. > > > Specially > > > > > all udu(nakshatra) dasas can be very well > > interpreted from > > > Moon's position. > > > > > > > > > > I have also noticed, that people prefer Moon > > Chart over Rashi > > > when former is > > > > > stronger than later. Strength criteria 'may' > > include; > > > > > > > > > > i- Greater number of planets are occupied in > > kendar from Lagna > > > or Moon. > > > > > (Actually planets in kendara (1,4,7,10), > > panaphara(2,5,8,11) or > > > apoklima > > > > > (3,6,9,12) get weak respectively). > > > > > ii- Apects. That is, whether Lagna or the > Moon > > is aspected by > > > greater number > > > > > of shubh grahas. > > > > > iii- Dispositor's relative strength. Which > > planet is stronger, > > > whether lagna > > > > > lord or the Moon sign lord (shubhpati), with > > respect to sign, > > > house, aspect, > > > > > amsa etc. > > > > > > > > > > These are roughly drawn criteria. For an > exact > > order of finding > > > strength, > > > > > one should follow Narasimharao's > VA-Integrated > > Approach or any > > > other > > > > > standard text. > > > > > > > > > > Apart from it, Moon chart has an special > > significance for > > > females and > > > > > childern cases, no matter, whether Lagna is > > stronger or weaker > > > than Moon. > > > > > And it should always consider. > > > > > > > > > > If you are looking the chart, w.r.t. Moon, > > then graha drishti > > > works better > > > > > than rashi drishti. > > > > > Another important fact is that take the Sun > as > > refree b/w Langa > > > and Moon. If > > > > > Sun is occupied in a sign whose lord is > > natural friend of lagna > > > lord then > > > > > follow the Lagna rather Moon. But if the Sun > > sign lord is > > friend > > > of Moon > > > > > sign lord then prefer Chandra kundali over > > Lagna when > > > interpretting the > > > > > nakshatra dashas. > > > > > > > > > > Sun, Moon, Mars and Jupiter are friends of > > each other. (as they > > > are trinal > > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends of > each > > other. (as they > > > are trinal > > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kapisthalam jagannathan > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > May I add?. > > > > > Rishis called lagnam as "Vuir"which mears > Life > > principle.Moon > > > sign as > > > > > "Vudal".Which means Body. > > > > > The Vimshottari dasha bhukthis are tuned, to > > the planetary > > > positions > > > > > ,planetary adi[pathyas etc etc,as in the > case > > of lagnam, to the > > > Chandra > > > > > lagnam also. > > > > > Here is one example chart from the "saptha > > Rishi Nadi".to focus > > > on the > > > > > importance of Chandra lagnam. > > > > > The lagnam is Rishabham.Ketu in Leo,Venus > and > > Mars in Libra, > > > Jupiter ,Sun > > > > > and Mercury in Scorpio, Saturn and Rahu in > > Aquarius and finally > > > Moon in > > > > > Aries. > > > > > The Rishi says that the native obtains a > house > > in Chandra dasa > > > and Guru > > > > > bhukthi..Why.?Moon is the lord of the fourth > > house from Moon > > > himself.He has > > > > > Paksha balam.He is a Kendradhipathy who is > > placed in the lagna > > > Konam.? > > > > > Jupiter is an 'Adhi Yoga Karaka".He is the > > Bhagyadhipathy.He is > > > with the > > > > > fourth lord from lagnam namely the Sun and > he > > aspects the > > fourth > > > house from > > > > > Moon sign.? > > > > > Suppose should we see from janma lagnam, > > > > > Ketu is in the fourth house.He is a > malefic.He > > has no balam.? > > > Bhagyadhipathy > > > > > Saturn aspects Ketu and the fourth house.But > > his aspect is > > > malefic.He is > > > > > with Rahu.saturn aspects the fourth lord Sun > > and the fourth > > lord > > > from the > > > > > Moon sign namely Moon.Therefore Janma lagnam > > doesnt seem to > > have > > > necessary > > > > > strength to bless the native with a house. > > > > > Especially when the dasa in progress is one > of > > Chandra dasa,the > > > planets > > > > > respond to thier placements and Adipathyas > etc > > etc , from the > > > chandra > > > > > lagnam. > > > > > Your comments please. > > > > > regards, > > > > > jagannathan. > > > > > jyotraff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > > > I have read (and in fact even in this > group) > > that predictions > > > > > should > > > > > > be made both from lagna and moon (and in > > fact some parts of > > > > > > tamilnadu they see it only from moon). but > > most of the people > > > here > > > > > > when they predict the events for others > they > > try to predict > > it > > > > > only > > > > > > from lagna. > > > > > > > > > > We take it from Lagna and from Moon , but > they > > have different > > > > > purposes. > > > > > > > > > > Can somebody please explain it to me why > > prediction from > > > > > > moon as lagna is not taken into account? > > > > > > > > > > Are taken. This maybe is Your > generalization, > > because someone > > > doesnt > > > > > write about it.. > > > > > > > > > > . do events or money or > > > > > > career come only from lagna and not from > > moon?. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, CandraLagna is for seeing things in > > perspective of > > > > > mind/feelings. > > > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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