Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Hi ALL, I will tell you ,How I follow and what I have understood from my experience and Learnings. 1)Take any one's chart and first check Lagna.Give a strength in per centage wise to Lagna.Consider only Kendra and Trine places.similarly for a Moon chart and Sun chart. But while predicting for lets say health or Body related issues only consider Lagna. When Moon chart is stronger than rest,I take it as Body follows mind.So person is going to do Karma more over related to Mind and Body has to obey that. You can take Moon chart only when to many planets are aspecting Moon or some how in relation to Moon. As I never considr Sun chart,because he feel to do that,But as mind and Body is over burden to soul,so you will never hear to soul,other than some exception cases.What is Ahar or eating of food means :"Atma hi Har" or "Loss of Soul".But we do eat food every day,even it is afflicting to ur soul.So I Sun chart has never helped me. So you can determine lot's of things through Lagna chart.But if Moon chart is too strong compare to Lagna chart.Because of his lots of desire in mind, he will acheieve those things.But he should have desire for same. It is not my speculation nor read it from somewhere.It is what I have thought about and as per analysis,I hav concluded,What I have return.I will always correct myself,I welcome views from others. --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > I have met many old people whose charts i have read, > but did not > specifically use Surya lagna to make predictions. > What we are talking is rooted in the philosophical > basis of our > existence. The trikona of lagna(body), Moon(mind), > Sun(atma) decide > the way we perform our karma in the world. Scholars > might have given > the the different grouping as people tend to mature > with age. And > after 90 the mature person probably starts feeling > that he is > instrument of divine will and hence navamsa lagna > can be taken. > > Again this is purely my speculation, and need not be > the only way of > looking at things. > > On a different note, Have you heard of padanathamsa > and lagnamsaka > dasas? > > best wishes > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "rambal9" > <rambal9> > wrote: > > > > Dear Parthaji and Sanjay Rathji, > > From your experience of having seen so many > charts, do you think > > that it is correct? (please don't think I am > trying to see it as > > black or white, but I am just trying to learn > here. thx.). ie. from > > 0-30 lagna , 30-60 moon lagna and 60-90 sun lagna > should be used. > in > > case if we use these versions do the predictions > or events come > > true?. or if we use moon lagna for a person in > between 30-60, then > > his life happens according to graha positions from > moon lagna > > (atleast most of the times), is it correct?. > > > > thanks > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha > Sarathy > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > Dear Imran > > > > > > I have read a different version(may be my > grandfather mentions it) > > > for 0-30-lagna > > > 30-60-moon lagna > > > 60-90-sun lagna > > > 90 -120- navamsa lagna > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:41:16 +0530, Sanjay Rath > <sanjayrath@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Imran > > > > Come on, you know better than that. What she > wanted to say > > probably was > > > > 'Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not > > ONLY use the > > > > Lagna and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna > as well'. The typo > > is in red. > > > > In fact the lagna is used for childhood, > chandra lagna for > > middle age and > > > > surya lagna for old age. There are other > systems for this as > > well. > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > * * * > > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sarbani, > > > > > > > > This is amazing that eastern Indian school of > jyotish do not > > consider Lagna > > > > and Moon, and solely consider Karaka Lagna > (naisargik, sthira > or > > char ?). > > > > Infact this added my little know-how about > ancient jyotish > > traditions. > > > > > > > > Replying to you, another confusion is raising > in mind, and I > > hope you would > > > > answer. Does Karaka itself stand for > particular physical entity > > and their > > > > specifics, viz, father, mother, brother etc. > OR the house after > > reckoned > > > > from karaka. That is mother is to see from > Moon OR 4th from > > Moon. Father is > > > > from the Sun OR 9th from the Sun. > > > > > > > > And what house should be taken to analyse > specifics (general > > matters, gain > > > > or loss) of any entity. For example, what > house should see for > > education of > > > > mother, Moon itself, OR 4th from Moon, OR 4th > from 4th of Moon? > > Similarly, > > > > for profession of younger brother, 10th from > Mars OR 12th (ie. > > 10th from > > > > 3rd) from Mars should consider. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > > > Dear Imran. > > > > > > > > Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not use > > the Lagna > > > > and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Monday, March 14, 2005 5:42 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannath, > > > > > > > > Very good delineation. I am of your mind that > chandra kundali > > (moon chart) > > > > should simultaneously analyze besides rashi > from lagna. Not > only > > to know our > > > > mental make-up but also for general phalit via > dasha and > gochar. > > Specially > > > > all udu(nakshatra) dasas can be very well > interpreted from > > Moon's position. > > > > > > > > I have also noticed, that people prefer Moon > Chart over Rashi > > when former is > > > > stronger than later. Strength criteria 'may' > include; > > > > > > > > i- Greater number of planets are occupied in > kendar from Lagna > > or Moon. > > > > (Actually planets in kendara (1,4,7,10), > panaphara(2,5,8,11) or > > apoklima > > > > (3,6,9,12) get weak respectively). > > > > ii- Apects. That is, whether Lagna or the Moon > is aspected by > > greater number > > > > of shubh grahas. > > > > iii- Dispositor's relative strength. Which > planet is stronger, > > whether lagna > > > > lord or the Moon sign lord (shubhpati), with > respect to sign, > > house, aspect, > > > > amsa etc. > > > > > > > > These are roughly drawn criteria. For an exact > order of finding > > strength, > > > > one should follow Narasimharao's VA-Integrated > Approach or any > > other > > > > standard text. > > > > > > > > Apart from it, Moon chart has an special > significance for > > females and > > > > childern cases, no matter, whether Lagna is > stronger or weaker > > than Moon. > > > > And it should always consider. > > > > > > > > If you are looking the chart, w.r.t. Moon, > then graha drishti > > works better > > > > than rashi drishti. > > > > Another important fact is that take the Sun as > refree b/w Langa > > and Moon. If > > > > Sun is occupied in a sign whose lord is > natural friend of lagna > > lord then > > > > follow the Lagna rather Moon. But if the Sun > sign lord is > friend > > of Moon > > > > sign lord then prefer Chandra kundali over > Lagna when > > interpretting the > > > > nakshatra dashas. > > > > > > > > Sun, Moon, Mars and Jupiter are friends of > each other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends of each > other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > May I add?. > > > > Rishis called lagnam as "Vuir"which mears Life > principle.Moon > > sign as > > > > "Vudal".Which means Body. > > > > The Vimshottari dasha bhukthis are tuned, to > the planetary > > positions > > > > ,planetary adi[pathyas etc etc,as in the case > of lagnam, to the > > Chandra > > > > lagnam also. > > > > Here is one example chart from the "saptha > Rishi Nadi".to focus > > on the > > > > importance of Chandra lagnam. > > > > The lagnam is Rishabham.Ketu in Leo,Venus and > Mars in Libra, > > Jupiter ,Sun > > > > and Mercury in Scorpio, Saturn and Rahu in > Aquarius and finally > > Moon in > > > > Aries. > > > > The Rishi says that the native obtains a house > in Chandra dasa > > and Guru > > > > bhukthi..Why.?Moon is the lord of the fourth > house from Moon > > himself.He has > > > > Paksha balam.He is a Kendradhipathy who is > placed in the lagna > > Konam.? > > > > Jupiter is an 'Adhi Yoga Karaka".He is the > Bhagyadhipathy.He is > > with the > > > > fourth lord from lagnam namely the Sun and he > aspects the > fourth > > house from > > > > Moon sign.? > > > > Suppose should we see from janma lagnam, > > > > Ketu is in the fourth house.He is a malefic.He > has no balam.? > > Bhagyadhipathy > > > > Saturn aspects Ketu and the fourth house.But > his aspect is > > malefic.He is > > > > with Rahu.saturn aspects the fourth lord Sun > and the fourth > lord > > from the > > > > Moon sign namely Moon.Therefore Janma lagnam > doesnt seem to > have > > necessary > > > > strength to bless the native with a house. > > > > Especially when the dasa in progress is one of > Chandra dasa,the > > planets > > > > respond to thier placements and Adipathyas etc > etc , from the > > chandra > > > > lagnam. > > > > Your comments please. > > > > regards, > > > > jagannathan. > > > > jyotraff <jyotraff> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > I have read (and in fact even in this group) > that predictions > > > > should > > > > > be made both from lagna and moon (and in > fact some parts of > > > > > tamilnadu they see it only from moon). but > most of the people > > here > > > > > when they predict the events for others they > try to predict > it > > > > only > > > > > from lagna. > > > > > > > > We take it from Lagna and from Moon , but they > have different > > > > purposes. > > > > > > > > Can somebody please explain it to me why > prediction from > > > > > moon as lagna is not taken into account? > > > > > > > > Are taken. 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Shripal, I have often wondered how to use moon sign in predictions ... its never very clear to me .. I was just wondering ... what if moon is in 12th or 2nd from lagna? it then denotes an interesting case where each planet shows that the mind destroys what the physical situations indicated by lagna or vice versa ... any thoughts? Shripal <d_shripal wrote: Hi ALL, I will tell you ,How I follow and what I have understood from my experience and Learnings. 1)Take any one's chart and first check Lagna.Give a strength in per centage wise to Lagna.Consider only Kendra and Trine places.similarly for a Moon chart and Sun chart. But while predicting for lets say health or Body related issues only consider Lagna. When Moon chart is stronger than rest,I take it as Body follows mind.So person is going to do Karma more over related to Mind and Body has to obey that. You can take Moon chart only when to many planets are aspecting Moon or some how in relation to Moon. As I never considr Sun chart,because he feel to do that,But as mind and Body is over burden to soul,so you will never hear to soul,other than some exception cases.What is Ahar or eating of food means :"Atma hi Har" or "Loss of Soul".But we do eat food every day,even it is afflicting to ur soul.So I Sun chart has never helped me. So you can determine lot's of things through Lagna chart.But if Moon chart is too strong compare to Lagna chart.Because of his lots of desire in mind, he will acheieve those things.But he should have desire for same. It is not my speculation nor read it from somewhere.It is what I have thought about and as per analysis,I hav concluded,What I have return.I will always correct myself,I welcome views from others. --- "V.Partha sarathy" wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > I have met many old people whose charts i have read, > but did not > specifically use Surya lagna to make predictions. > What we are talking is rooted in the philosophical > basis of our > existence. The trikona of lagna(body), Moon(mind), > Sun(atma) decide > the way we perform our karma in the world. Scholars > might have given > the the different grouping as people tend to mature > with age. And > after 90 the mature person probably starts feeling > that he is > instrument of divine will and hence navamsa lagna > can be taken. > > Again this is purely my speculation, and need not be > the only way of > looking at things. > > On a different note, Have you heard of padanathamsa > and lagnamsaka > dasas? > > best wishes > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "rambal9" > > wrote: > > > > Dear Parthaji and Sanjay Rathji, > > From your experience of having seen so many > charts, do you think > > that it is correct? (please don't think I am > trying to see it as > > black or white, but I am just trying to learn > here. thx.). ie. from > > 0-30 lagna , 30-60 moon lagna and 60-90 sun lagna > should be used. > in > > case if we use these versions do the predictions > or events come > > true?. or if we use moon lagna for a person in > between 30-60, then > > his life happens according to graha positions from > moon lagna > > (atleast most of the times), is it correct?. > > > > thanks > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha > Sarathy > > wrote: > > > Dear Imran > > > > > > I have read a different version(may be my > grandfather mentions it) > > > for 0-30-lagna > > > 30-60-moon lagna > > > 60-90-sun lagna > > > 90 -120- navamsa lagna > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:41:16 +0530, Sanjay Rath > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Imran > > > > Come on, you know better than that. What she > wanted to say > > probably was > > > > 'Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not > > ONLY use the > > > > Lagna and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna > as well'. The typo > > is in red. > > > > In fact the lagna is used for childhood, > chandra lagna for > > middle age and > > > > surya lagna for old age. There are other > systems for this as > > well. > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > * * * > > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sarbani, > > > > > > > > This is amazing that eastern Indian school of > jyotish do not > > consider Lagna > > > > and Moon, and solely consider Karaka Lagna > (naisargik, sthira > or > > char ?). > > > > Infact this added my little know-how about > ancient jyotish > > traditions. > > > > > > > > Replying to you, another confusion is raising > in mind, and I > > hope you would > > > > answer. Does Karaka itself stand for > particular physical entity > > and their > > > > specifics, viz, father, mother, brother etc. > OR the house after > > reckoned > > > > from karaka. That is mother is to see from > Moon OR 4th from > > Moon. Father is > > > > from the Sun OR 9th from the Sun. > > > > > > > > And what house should be taken to analyse > specifics (general > > matters, gain > > > > or loss) of any entity. For example, what > house should see for > > education of > > > > mother, Moon itself, OR 4th from Moon, OR 4th > from 4th of Moon? > > Similarly, > > > > for profession of younger brother, 10th from > Mars OR 12th (ie. > > 10th from > > > > 3rd) from Mars should consider. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar wrote: > > > > Dear Imran. > > > > > > > > Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not use > > the Lagna > > > > and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Monday, March 14, 2005 5:42 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannath, > > > > > > > > Very good delineation. I am of your mind that > chandra kundali > > (moon chart) > > > > should simultaneously analyze besides rashi > from lagna. Not > only > > to know our > > > > mental make-up but also for general phalit via > dasha and > gochar. > > Specially > > > > all udu(nakshatra) dasas can be very well > interpreted from > > Moon's position. > > > > > > > > I have also noticed, that people prefer Moon > Chart over Rashi > > when former is > > > > stronger than later. Strength criteria 'may' > include; > > > > > > > > i- Greater number of planets are occupied in > kendar from Lagna > > or Moon. > > > > (Actually planets in kendara (1,4,7,10), > panaphara(2,5,8,11) or > > apoklima > > > > (3,6,9,12) get weak respectively). > > > > ii- Apects. That is, whether Lagna or the Moon > is aspected by > > greater number > > > > of shubh grahas. > > > > iii- Dispositor's relative strength. Which > planet is stronger, > > whether lagna > > > > lord or the Moon sign lord (shubhpati), with > respect to sign, > > house, aspect, > > > > amsa etc. > > > > > > > > These are roughly drawn criteria. For an exact > order of finding > > strength, > > > > one should follow Narasimharao's VA-Integrated > Approach or any > > other > > > > standard text. > > > > > > > > Apart from it, Moon chart has an special > significance for > > females and > > > > childern cases, no matter, whether Lagna is > stronger or weaker > > than Moon. > > > > And it should always consider. > > > > > > > > If you are looking the chart, w.r.t. Moon, > then graha drishti > > works better > > > > than rashi drishti. > > > > Another important fact is that take the Sun as > refree b/w Langa > > and Moon. If > > > > Sun is occupied in a sign whose lord is > natural friend of lagna > > lord then > > > > follow the Lagna rather Moon. But if the Sun > sign lord is > friend > > of Moon > > > > sign lord then prefer Chandra kundali over > Lagna when > > interpretting the > > > > nakshatra dashas. > > > > > > > > Sun, Moon, Mars and Jupiter are friends of > each other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends of each > other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kapisthalam jagannathan > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > May I add?. > > > > Rishis called lagnam as "Vuir"which mears Life > principle.Moon > > sign as > > > > "Vudal".Which means Body. > > > > The Vimshottari dasha bhukthis are tuned, to > the planetary > > positions > > > > ,planetary adi[pathyas etc etc,as in the case > of lagnam, to the > > Chandra > > > > lagnam also. > > > > Here is one example chart from the "saptha > Rishi Nadi".to focus > > on the > > > > importance of Chandra lagnam. > > > > The lagnam is Rishabham.Ketu in Leo,Venus and > Mars in Libra, > > Jupiter ,Sun > > > > and Mercury in Scorpio, Saturn and Rahu in > Aquarius and finally > > Moon in > > > > Aries. > > > > The Rishi says that the native obtains a house > in Chandra dasa > > and Guru > > > > bhukthi..Why.?Moon is the lord of the fourth > house from Moon > > himself.He has > > > > Paksha balam.He is a Kendradhipathy who is > placed in the lagna > > Konam.? > > > > Jupiter is an 'Adhi Yoga Karaka".He is the > Bhagyadhipathy.He is > > with the > > > > fourth lord from lagnam namely the Sun and he > aspects the > fourth > > house from > > > > Moon sign.? > > > > Suppose should we see from janma lagnam, > > > > Ketu is in the fourth house.He is a malefic.He > has no balam.? > > Bhagyadhipathy > > > > Saturn aspects Ketu and the fourth house.But > his aspect is > > malefic.He is > > > > with Rahu.saturn aspects the fourth lord Sun > and the fourth > lord > > from the > > > > Moon sign namely Moon.Therefore Janma lagnam > doesnt seem to > have > > necessary > > > > strength to bless the native with a house. > > > > Especially when the dasa in progress is one of > Chandra dasa,the > > planets > > > > respond to thier placements and Adipathyas etc > etc , from the > > chandra > > > > lagnam. > > > > Your comments please. > > > > regards, > > > > jagannathan. > > > > jyotraff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > I have read (and in fact even in this group) > that predictions > > > > should > > > > > be made both from lagna and moon (and in > fact some parts of > > > > > tamilnadu they see it only from moon). but > most of the people > > here > > > > > when they predict the events for others they > try to predict > it > > > > only > > > > > from lagna. > > > > > > > > We take it from Lagna and from Moon , but they > have different > > > > purposes. > > > > > > > > Can somebody please explain it to me why > prediction from > > > > > moon as lagna is not taken into account? > > > > > > > > Are taken. This maybe is Your generalization, > because someone > > doesnt > > > > write about it.. > > > > > > > > . do events or money or > > > > > career come only from lagna and not from > moon?. > > > > > > > > Yes, CandraLagna is for seeing things in > perspective of > > > > mind/feelings. > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Shripal, I have to consider two positions here...from Lagna and from the Moon/Sun (both in 9th house). What does this signify; the view from the atma and mind is same. Mike Shripal [d_shripal] Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:44 AM vedic astrology [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Lagna v/s Moon---> All Hi ALL, I will tell you ,How I follow and what I have understood from my experience and Learnings. 1)Take any one's chart and first check Lagna.Give a strength in per centage wise to Lagna.Consider only Kendra and Trine places.similarly for a Moon chart and Sun chart. But while predicting for lets say health or Body related issues only consider Lagna. When Moon chart is stronger than rest,I take it as Body follows mind.So person is going to do Karma more over related to Mind and Body has to obey that. You can take Moon chart only when to many planets are aspecting Moon or some how in relation to Moon. As I never considr Sun chart,because he feel to do that,But as mind and Body is over burden to soul,so you will never hear to soul,other than some exception cases.What is Ahar or eating of food means :"Atma hi Har" or "Loss of Soul".But we do eat food every day,even it is afflicting to ur soul.So I Sun chart has never helped me. So you can determine lot's of things through Lagna chart.But if Moon chart is too strong compare to Lagna chart.Because of his lots of desire in mind, he will acheieve those things.But he should have desire for same. It is not my speculation nor read it from somewhere.It is what I have thought about and as per analysis,I hav concluded,What I have return.I will always correct myself,I welcome views from others. --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > I have met many old people whose charts i have read, > but did not > specifically use Surya lagna to make predictions. > What we are talking is rooted in the philosophical > basis of our > existence. The trikona of lagna(body), Moon(mind), > Sun(atma) decide > the way we perform our karma in the world. Scholars > might have given > the the different grouping as people tend to mature > with age. And > after 90 the mature person probably starts feeling > that he is > instrument of divine will and hence navamsa lagna > can be taken. > > Again this is purely my speculation, and need not be > the only way of > looking at things. > > On a different note, Have you heard of padanathamsa > and lagnamsaka > dasas? > > best wishes > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "rambal9" > <rambal9> > wrote: > > > > Dear Parthaji and Sanjay Rathji, > > From your experience of having seen so many > charts, do you think > > that it is correct? (please don't think I am > trying to see it as > > black or white, but I am just trying to learn > here. thx.). ie. from > > 0-30 lagna , 30-60 moon lagna and 60-90 sun lagna > should be used. > in > > case if we use these versions do the predictions > or events come > > true?. or if we use moon lagna for a person in > between 30-60, then > > his life happens according to graha positions from > moon lagna > > (atleast most of the times), is it correct?. > > > > thanks > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha > Sarathy > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > Dear Imran > > > > > > I have read a different version(may be my > grandfather mentions it) > > > for 0-30-lagna > > > 30-60-moon lagna > > > 60-90-sun lagna > > > 90 -120- navamsa lagna > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:41:16 +0530, Sanjay Rath > <sanjayrath@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Imran > > > > Come on, you know better than that. What she > wanted to say > > probably was > > > > 'Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not > > ONLY use the > > > > Lagna and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna > as well'. The typo > > is in red. > > > > In fact the lagna is used for childhood, > chandra lagna for > > middle age and > > > > surya lagna for old age. There are other > systems for this as > > well. > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > * * * > > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sarbani, > > > > > > > > This is amazing that eastern Indian school of > jyotish do not > > consider Lagna > > > > and Moon, and solely consider Karaka Lagna > (naisargik, sthira > or > > char ?). > > > > Infact this added my little know-how about > ancient jyotish > > traditions. > > > > > > > > Replying to you, another confusion is raising > in mind, and I > > hope you would > > > > answer. Does Karaka itself stand for > particular physical entity > > and their > > > > specifics, viz, father, mother, brother etc. > OR the house after > > reckoned > > > > from karaka. That is mother is to see from > Moon OR 4th from > > Moon. Father is > > > > from the Sun OR 9th from the Sun. > > > > > > > > And what house should be taken to analyse > specifics (general > > matters, gain > > > > or loss) of any entity. For example, what > house should see for > > education of > > > > mother, Moon itself, OR 4th from Moon, OR 4th > from 4th of Moon? > > Similarly, > > > > for profession of younger brother, 10th from > Mars OR 12th (ie. > > 10th from > > > > 3rd) from Mars should consider. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > > > Dear Imran. > > > > > > > > Astrologers from eastern India, both Bengal > and Orissa, not use > > the Lagna > > > > and Chandra Lagna but the Karaka Lagna. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Muhammad Imran [astroimran] > > > > Monday, March 14, 2005 5:42 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna v/s > Moon > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagannath, > > > > > > > > Very good delineation. I am of your mind that > chandra kundali > > (moon chart) > > > > should simultaneously analyze besides rashi > from lagna. Not > only > > to know our > > > > mental make-up but also for general phalit via > dasha and > gochar. > > Specially > > > > all udu(nakshatra) dasas can be very well > interpreted from > > Moon's position. > > > > > > > > I have also noticed, that people prefer Moon > Chart over Rashi > > when former is > > > > stronger than later. Strength criteria 'may' > include; > > > > > > > > i- Greater number of planets are occupied in > kendar from Lagna > > or Moon. > > > > (Actually planets in kendara (1,4,7,10), > panaphara(2,5,8,11) or > > apoklima > > > > (3,6,9,12) get weak respectively). > > > > ii- Apects. That is, whether Lagna or the Moon > is aspected by > > greater number > > > > of shubh grahas. > > > > iii- Dispositor's relative strength. Which > planet is stronger, > > whether lagna > > > > lord or the Moon sign lord (shubhpati), with > respect to sign, > > house, aspect, > > > > amsa etc. > > > > > > > > These are roughly drawn criteria. For an exact > order of finding > > strength, > > > > one should follow Narasimharao's VA-Integrated > Approach or any > > other > > > > standard text. > > > > > > > > Apart from it, Moon chart has an special > significance for > > females and > > > > childern cases, no matter, whether Lagna is > stronger or weaker > > than Moon. > > > > And it should always consider. > > > > > > > > If you are looking the chart, w.r.t. Moon, > then graha drishti > > works better > > > > than rashi drishti. > > > > Another important fact is that take the Sun as > refree b/w Langa > > and Moon. If > > > > Sun is occupied in a sign whose lord is > natural friend of lagna > > lord then > > > > follow the Lagna rather Moon. But if the Sun > sign lord is > friend > > of Moon > > > > sign lord then prefer Chandra kundali over > Lagna when > > interpretting the > > > > nakshatra dashas. > > > > > > > > Sun, Moon, Mars and Jupiter are friends of > each other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends of each > other. (as they > > are trinal > > > > lords in natural zodiac) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > May I add?. > > > > Rishis called lagnam as "Vuir"which mears Life > principle.Moon > > sign as > > > > "Vudal".Which means Body. > > > > The Vimshottari dasha bhukthis are tuned, to > the planetary > > positions > > > > ,planetary adi[pathyas etc etc,as in the case > of lagnam, to the > > Chandra > > > > lagnam also. > > > > Here is one example chart from the "saptha > Rishi Nadi".to focus > > on the > > > > importance of Chandra lagnam. > > > > The lagnam is Rishabham.Ketu in Leo,Venus and > Mars in Libra, > > Jupiter ,Sun > > > > and Mercury in Scorpio, Saturn and Rahu in > Aquarius and finally > > Moon in > > > > Aries. > > > > The Rishi says that the native obtains a house > in Chandra dasa > > and Guru > > > > bhukthi..Why.?Moon is the lord of the fourth > house from Moon > > himself.He has > > > > Paksha balam.He is a Kendradhipathy who is > placed in the lagna > > Konam.? > > > > Jupiter is an 'Adhi Yoga Karaka".He is the > Bhagyadhipathy.He is > > with the > > > > fourth lord from lagnam namely the Sun and he > aspects the > fourth > > house from > > > > Moon sign.? > > > > Suppose should we see from janma lagnam, > > > > Ketu is in the fourth house.He is a malefic.He > has no balam.? > > Bhagyadhipathy > > > > Saturn aspects Ketu and the fourth house.But > his aspect is > > malefic.He is > > > > with Rahu.saturn aspects the fourth lord Sun > and the fourth > lord > > from the > > > > Moon sign namely Moon.Therefore Janma lagnam > doesnt seem to > have > > necessary > > > > strength to bless the native with a house. > > > > Especially when the dasa in progress is one of > Chandra dasa,the > > planets > > > > respond to thier placements and Adipathyas etc > etc , from the > > chandra > > > > lagnam. > > > > Your comments please. > > > > regards, > > > > jagannathan. > > > > jyotraff <jyotraff> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > I have read (and in fact even in this group) > that predictions > > > > should > > > > > be made both from lagna and moon (and in > fact some parts of > > > > > tamilnadu they see it only from moon). but > most of the people > > here > > > > > when they predict the events for others they > try to predict > it > > > > only > > > > > from lagna. > > > > > > > > We take it from Lagna and from Moon , but they > have different > > > > purposes. > > > > > > > > Can somebody please explain it to me why > prediction from > > > > > moon as lagna is not taken into account? > > > > > > > > Are taken. This maybe is Your generalization, > because someone > > doesnt > > > > write about it.. > > > > > > > > . do events or money or > > > > > career come only from lagna and not from > moon?. > > > > > > > > Yes, CandraLagna is for seeing things in > perspective of > > > > mind/feelings. > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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If a man > > speaks > > > or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. > If a man speaks or > > > acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, > like a shadow > that > > > never leaves him. > > > -----Buddha > > > > > > > > > Plot.no.71 > > > Road No.3 > > > Nagarjuna Hills > > > Hyderabad > > > India-500 082 > > > > "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul." Make your home page http://www./r/hs ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Shripal, How do you give someone's Lagna a percentage value? To do that would be to say that it's possible to have a 100% lagna. What would that mean? How can one only consider kendras and trines? Don't we have to look at the placement of these lords - whether they be in dusthanas or otherwise? You say for health or body issues we should only consider Lagna... but don't the classics talk of the 22nd Drekkana and the 64th Navamsa having great bearing on these issues? With reverence to the Gurus, Samir Shripal [d_shripal] Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:44 AM To: vedic astrology [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Lagna v/s Moon---> All Hi ALL, I will tell you ,How I follow and what I have understood from my experience and Learnings. 1)Take any one's chart and first check Lagna.Give a strength in per centage wise to Lagna.Consider only Kendra and Trine places.similarly for a Moon chart and Sun chart. But while predicting for lets say health or Body related issues only consider Lagna. When Moon chart is stronger than rest,I take it as Body follows mind.So person is going to do Karma more over related to Mind and Body has to obey that. You can take Moon chart only when to many planets are aspecting Moon or some how in relation to Moon. As I never considr Sun chart,because he feel to do that,But as mind and Body is over burden to soul,so you will never hear to soul,other than some exception cases.What is Ahar or eating of food means :"Atma hi Har" or "Loss of Soul".But we do eat food every day,even it is afflicting to ur soul.So I Sun chart has never helped me. So you can determine lot's of things through Lagna chart.But if Moon chart is too strong compare to Lagna chart.Because of his lots of desire in mind, he will acheieve those things.But he should have desire for same. It is not my speculation nor read it from somewhere.It is what I have thought about and as per analysis,I hav concluded,What I have return.I will always correct myself,I welcome views from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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