Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hi Mark, As I heard you and people saying about a Karma.I will tell you what I have understand about it from my Guru with a Example. 1)Some preson you are working in a company ,he is holding your promotion,being talented you are not getting it,but a person totally worthless gets it. I asked him "Is it my Karma".My guru said me "your Paapa Karati Karma has come into an effect, may be in some previous birth you must have did a same to him and today he is doing a same to you". than I asked,"Who strated the first,did shiva,vishnu,Tirthankaras or person and if person started,who told him to start,why did he start and What is a end for it" Guruji told,"My son no one has created this world,nor shiva,nor Vishnu nor our Tirthankaras, It is going on since billions of billions of years, who ever came in a power has tried to possess it by saying I am a creator,But it is not so, because Who is saying as a creator, than question will arise who has created a creator, so Nature is only a creator,sustainer and destroyer.There is no end to it.Who ever is saying end and renovation,is mere just a illusion,because they are agian making it wrong by saying again it will be created,But truth is No start and no end to it.you have to find a way to get out of it" I asked,"How will I destroy all my Bad Karmas of my Life" Guruji told me "You know you are worth for your promotion and you are not getting it,correct.So you can stop it from reverting back.Just take it as it is coming calm down yourself and don't revert a same thing to anybody in future.so you will be balancing your Karmas and Day will not be far when you will also be enlightened with a truth about these world and existence." I asked "What is Moksha and How do we feel there and why I need to go there,I am Happy with these Life,Yes lots of problems are there,But that's What is Life all about." Guruji told me "That's were people doesn't know a truth, God is nothing but a impression of a mind.Mahavir didn't got Moksha by praying some GOD.Buddha didn't left his house back all comforts of life,because GOD came and told him.Our Tirthankaras has left there foot steps on which we have to travel,But enlightenment has to come on it's own, by going that path,Not my receiting some one's name.receting some one's name and feeling of being in Sansar,is just mere a illusion. A time will come for you when like buddha,Mahavira you will get samyaktva,(that is currently you are seeing things, a day will come when you will see through the things and not mere a things) and than you will also go that path of Buddha,Mahavira or tirhankaras." I asked "Who is a true Guru" Guruji told "A person who doesn't say his Vaani(own thoughts),but a Vaani(Thoughts or speeches of GOD has said) is a true Guru. So What I understood was Karma is to accept the thing a way the are coming and try to understand a path of Spiritual gurus and try to imbibe most of it and day will come of smayaktwa. --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: > Dear Anju: > > See below: > > > "anju_purohit2000" > <anju_purohit2000 > > Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:59:03 -0000 > > change of life > > > > dear sir, > I have just gone through your letter whereyou have > discussed how we > can change our lifes through astrology yes we try > very hard but I > know one thing that destiny is such however hard you > try you cannot > change > > This is my main point. That Jyotish is incorrect > that we can't change our > destiny. > > I believe, in fact, that we were born for that. > > But, Jyotish as many aspects of Indian Vedic > knowledge, have fallen on hard > times, and believe > it's very difficult to learn to meditate, to > transcend, even become > enlightened... > > But, the great news is, in this age, this old view > has become out-dated, and > now it's becoming more well known that it's possible > for anyone to find the > Self of the Universe... > for all, to easily and naturally change > themselves... > > and especially where Jyotish is involved, > Jyotish-too, is being transformed > from an old, out-dated concept of strict fatalism, > to ....well,....all > possibilities... > > you have to bear our karma whether good or > bad I my self have > gone through so many difficulties in my life and I > have never > knowingly hurt anybody and i have goneout of the way > to help people > though when I need any help i never get it life is > very strange and > full of mystry the more you are honest and live > honestly you are > cheated hated humilated. > > yes, I do understand what you're saying here... > > I too have experienced things coming to me, where I > couldn't justify, what > I've done in the most recent past, to deserve that > 'thing',....but... > > My experience, still, is that the whole area of > 'transformation'.... is > greatly unappreciated.... > > and now's the time, to renew our ideas and > explore...even,.... > > if and to what extent,.... our negatives can be > improved.... > > So, allow yourself to consider, the possiblity of > what we're talking > about.... > > thanks for your thoughts... > > Thanks > anju purohit > > > Sincerely, > > > Mark K. > > > > > > Sponsor > Children International Would you give Hope to a > Child in need? · Click Here > to meet a Girl > <http://us.ard./SIG=129ok72qd/M=332618.6144543.7151980.2152211/D=gr > oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1110395060/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http://chil > dren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID= > 872&s=f&hostName=Children%20> > And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy > <http://us.ard./SIG=129ok72qd/M=332618.6144543.7151980.2152211/D=gr > oups/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1110395060/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http://chil > dren.780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID= > 871&s=m&hostName=Children%20> > And Change His Life Learn More > > > Links > > / > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > Terms of Service > <> . > > > > "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul." 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