Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Dear Group, Does any one have Pramod Mahajan's chart. For those who do not know him - he is an Indian politician and a senior member of the BJP (national party and currently sitting in opposition).Mr Mahajan apart from having played many other roles was also India's Information and broadcasting minister in the earlier government. The reason I would like to see his chart is that he was shot at today morning at his house from very close distance by none other than his younger brother.He is very critical having lost a lot of blood from 3 shots into him. The strange thing is Mars the bhratru karaka is in Ardra nakshatra a very bad nakshatra owned by rahu. Best Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Dear Nilesh, Pramod Mahajan's d.o.b is 30 October, 1948; p.o.b is Hyderabad and t.o.b is 21.00 this is the data given on Sify site. Regards, Neena jyotish-vidya, "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Does any one have Pramod Mahajan's chart. > > For those who do not know him - he is an Indian politician and a > senior member of the BJP (national party and currently sitting in > opposition).Mr Mahajan apart from having played many other roles was > also India's Information and broadcasting minister in the earlier > government. > > The reason I would like to see his chart is that he was shot at > today morning at his house from very close distance by none other > than his younger brother.He is very critical having lost a lot of > blood from 3 shots into him. > > The strange thing is Mars the bhratru karaka is in Ardra nakshatra a > very bad nakshatra owned by rahu. > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 His(Pramod Mahajan) details are as under DOB 30.10.48 TOB 21.21hrs POB 78E29, 17N23 (Hyd) Harry Nilesh Joshi <niljoshi27 wrote: Dear Group, Does any one have Pramod Mahajan's chart. For those who do not know him - he is an Indian politician and a senior member of the BJP (national party and currently sitting in opposition).Mr Mahajan apart from having played many other roles was also India's Information and broadcasting minister in the earlier government. The reason I would like to see his chart is that he was shot at today morning at his house from very close distance by none other than his younger brother.He is very critical having lost a lot of blood from 3 shots into him. The strange thing is Mars the bhratru karaka is in Ardra nakshatra a very bad nakshatra owned by rahu. Best Regards Nilesh Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Dear Neena, Nilesh, Harry and All, Using the time of 21:00 the dasa is SA-RA-VE. The time of 21.21 (given by Harry) also shows SA-RA-VE. A look at the sookshmantar at time of shooting will help to verify the correct time. Not surprising is the presence of 8th lord Saturn in 3rd house of younger sibling. Sun (self) is afflicted by Ketu (nakshatra lord of both SA and bhukti lord RA)... Venus PD lord is dispositor of Ketu. Both KE/SU occupy nakshatra of Rahu BTW and his dispositor (Mars, karaka for younger sibling) afflicts both lagna and 4th in transit...4th house governs chest area. According to the report I read, three bullets entered his chest and shattered his liver, pancreas and intestines. To the best of my knowledge, the sign Leo (holding dasa lord Saturn) governs the liver and pancreas, whilst the sign Virgo (holding PD lord Venus) governs the small intestine etc.. Reference here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:45 AM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart Dear Nilesh, Pramod Mahajan's d.o.b is 30 October, 1948; p.o.b is Hyderabad and t.o.b is 21.00 this is the data given on Sify site. Regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 his lagna is gemini. regds..mukesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Neena, Nilesh, Harry and All, > > Using the time of 21:00 the dasa is SA-RA-VE. The time of 21.21 > (given by Harry) also shows SA-RA-VE. A look at the sookshmantar at > time of shooting will help to verify the correct time. > > Not surprising is the presence of 8th lord Saturn in 3rd house of > younger sibling. Sun (self) is afflicted by Ketu (nakshatra lord of > both SA and bhukti lord RA)... Venus PD lord is dispositor of Ketu. > > Both KE/SU occupy nakshatra of Rahu BTW and his dispositor (Mars, > karaka for younger sibling) afflicts both lagna and 4th in > transit...4th house governs chest area. According to the report I > read, three bullets entered his chest and shattered his liver, > pancreas and intestines. > > To the best of my knowledge, the sign Leo (holding dasa lord Saturn) > governs the liver and pancreas, whilst the sign Virgo (holding PD > lord Venus) governs the small intestine etc.. > > Reference here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "neenako" <neenako > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:45 AM > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Pramod Mahajan's d.o.b is 30 October, 1948; p.o.b is Hyderabad and > t.o.b is 21.00 > > this is the data given on Sify site. > > Regards, > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hello Mukesh, Gemini lagna remains for both times (21:00 and 21:21). Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "mukesh_vats9992" <mukesh_vats9992 <jyotish-vidya> Monday, April 24, 2006 3:26 PM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart his lagna is gemini. regds..mukesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Dear Wendy,Neena and Harry, I think 21.21 can be more accurate as the Lagna turns out to be Ardra and not Mriga. The fact that he is such a great orator can be also seen from the fact the lord of 2nd is with the lord of 4th and 5th in the 4th house. However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong Sun. Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is exalted in 11th. Best Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Neena, Nilesh, Harry and All, > > Using the time of 21:00 the dasa is SA-RA-VE. The time of 21.21 > (given by Harry) also shows SA-RA-VE. A look at the sookshmantar at > time of shooting will help to verify the correct time. > > Not surprising is the presence of 8th lord Saturn in 3rd house of > younger sibling. Sun (self) is afflicted by Ketu (nakshatra lord of > both SA and bhukti lord RA)... Venus PD lord is dispositor of Ketu. > > Both KE/SU occupy nakshatra of Rahu BTW and his dispositor (Mars, > karaka for younger sibling) afflicts both lagna and 4th in > transit...4th house governs chest area. According to the report I > read, three bullets entered his chest and shattered his liver, > pancreas and intestines. > > To the best of my knowledge, the sign Leo (holding dasa lord Saturn) > governs the liver and pancreas, whilst the sign Virgo (holding PD > lord Venus) governs the small intestine etc.. > > Reference here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "neenako" <neenako > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:45 AM > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Pramod Mahajan's d.o.b is 30 October, 1948; p.o.b is Hyderabad and > t.o.b is 21.00 > > this is the data given on Sify site. > > Regards, > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Dear Nilesh, //However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong Sun.// Consider 10th lord Jupiter (moolatrikona) aspecting lagna from 7th. This position assures recognition through career. Jupiter occupies nakshatra of Ketu who is associated with 3rd lord Sun in 5th. Consider the aspect of 8th/9th lord Saturn on 5th and 9th etc.. Life would be very bland if the bhavas and the planets occupying them were not subject to varying influences...these influences change all the time due to transits, dasas, subdasas and so forth. //Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is exalted in 11th.// Take time to think about this! 3rd, 6th and 11th are trishadaya houses. Bhukti lord Rahu occupies 11th in sign of Mars who occupies 6th (8th from Rahu)... Consider the transit of exalted 3rd lord Sun in this light. I hope members will put their thinking caps on and really look deeply into this chart...peel back the layers and see what you can find :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 <jyotish-vidya> Monday, April 24, 2006 4:36 PM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart Dear Wendy,Neena and Harry, I think 21.21 can be more accurate as the Lagna turns out to be Ardra and not Mriga. The fact that he is such a great orator can be also seen from the fact the lord of 2nd is with the lord of 4th and 5th in the 4th house. However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong Sun. Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is exalted in 11th. Best Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 - Dear Wendy, What are the factors which can lead to a violent death ? Some people are destined for a peaceful death, some for a painful one and some for a violent death. also it is said that one cannot predict an apmrityu. But an apmrityu can be warded off by worship and chanting of mantras, whereas the Mrityu that one is destined for cannot be warded off. I know this is a very depressing topic but any inputs on this I will be grateful for. regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > //However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > Sun.// > > Consider 10th lord Jupiter (moolatrikona) aspecting lagna from 7th. > This position assures recognition through career. Jupiter occupies > nakshatra of Ketu who is associated with 3rd lord Sun in 5th. > Consider the aspect of 8th/9th lord Saturn on 5th and 9th etc.. Life > would be very bland if the bhavas and the planets occupying them were > not subject to varying influences...these influences change all the > time due to transits, dasas, subdasas and so forth. > > //Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is > exalted in 11th.// > > Take time to think about this! 3rd, 6th and 11th are trishadaya > houses. Bhukti lord Rahu occupies 11th in sign of Mars who occupies > 6th (8th from Rahu)... Consider the transit of exalted 3rd lord Sun > in this light. > > I hope members will put their thinking caps on and really look deeply > into this chart...peel back the layers and see what you can find :- ) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 > <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, April 24, 2006 4:36 PM > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > Dear Wendy,Neena and Harry, > > I think 21.21 can be more accurate as the Lagna turns out to be > Ardra and not Mriga. > > The fact that he is such a great orator can be also seen from the > fact the lord of 2nd is with the lord of 4th and 5th in the 4th > house. > > However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > Sun. Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is > exalted in 11th. > > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Pujay shri neenaako, I have experienced that theory of karma is great than grahas - specially worships does help - in certain cirsumstances - plus some time chart of the person whose act has created the problems - can tell u - most of the things like BHATRU GHATAK - it is not the person own stars also. as this creats the question - why - what for - to attack our blood. although we do not know but as per newspaper and media his own brother has attacked him - let us pray that he will come through the death and life cicumstances soon. pdk neenako <neenako wrote: - Dear Wendy, What are the factors which can lead to a violent death ? Some people are destined for a peaceful death, some for a painful one and some for a violent death. also it is said that one cannot predict an apmrityu. But an apmrityu can be warded off by worship and chanting of mantras, whereas the Mrityu that one is destined for cannot be warded off. I know this is a very depressing topic but any inputs on this I will be grateful for. regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > //However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > Sun.// > > Consider 10th lord Jupiter (moolatrikona) aspecting lagna from 7th. > This position assures recognition through career. Jupiter occupies > nakshatra of Ketu who is associated with 3rd lord Sun in 5th. > Consider the aspect of 8th/9th lord Saturn on 5th and 9th etc.. Life > would be very bland if the bhavas and the planets occupying them were > not subject to varying influences...these influences change all the > time due to transits, dasas, subdasas and so forth. > > //Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is > exalted in 11th.// > > Take time to think about this! 3rd, 6th and 11th are trishadaya > houses. Bhukti lord Rahu occupies 11th in sign of Mars who occupies > 6th (8th from Rahu)... Consider the transit of exalted 3rd lord Sun > in this light. > > I hope members will put their thinking caps on and really look deeply > into this chart...peel back the layers and see what you can find :- ) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 > <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, April 24, 2006 4:36 PM > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > Dear Wendy,Neena and Harry, > > I think 21.21 can be more accurate as the Lagna turns out to be > Ardra and not Mriga. > > The fact that he is such a great orator can be also seen from the > fact the lord of 2nd is with the lord of 4th and 5th in the 4th > house. > > However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > Sun. Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is > exalted in 11th. > > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 - Dear pdk, You are right. Karma plays a very vital role in everyone's life journey and at times the life's past karmas are revealed in the placement of planets in this birth. Somehow , I have noticed that Saturn in the 3rd house will either give no younger sibling or relations with a younger sibling may not be good, or one loses touch with the younger coborn. In pramod Mahajan's chart Saturn is placed in the 3rd house and the main dasa is also of Saturn and antardasa is of Rahu. Lets hope that he makes it through this terrible crisis. Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote: > > Pujay shri neenaako, > > I have experienced that theory of karma is great than grahas - specially worships does help - in certain cirsumstances - plus some time chart of the person whose act has created the problems - can tell u - most of the things like BHATRU GHATAK - it is not the person own stars also. > as this creats the question - why - what for - to attack our blood. > > although we do not know but as per newspaper and media his own brother has attacked him - let us pray that he will come through the death and life cicumstances > soon. pdk > neenako <neenako wrote: > - > Dear Wendy, > > What are the factors which can lead to a violent death ? > > Some people are destined for a peaceful death, some for a painful > one and some for a violent death. > > also it is said that one cannot predict an apmrityu. But an apmrityu > can be warded off by worship and chanting of mantras, whereas the > Mrityu that one is destined for cannot be warded off. > > I know this is a very depressing topic but any inputs on this I will > be grateful for. > > regards, > > Neena > -- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > > //However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > > Sun.// > > > > Consider 10th lord Jupiter (moolatrikona) aspecting lagna from > 7th. > > This position assures recognition through career. Jupiter occupies > > nakshatra of Ketu who is associated with 3rd lord Sun in 5th. > > Consider the aspect of 8th/9th lord Saturn on 5th and 9th etc.. > Life > > would be very bland if the bhavas and the planets occupying them > were > > not subject to varying influences...these influences change all > the > > time due to transits, dasas, subdasas and so forth. > > > > //Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother is > > exalted in 11th.// > > > > Take time to think about this! 3rd, 6th and 11th are trishadaya > > houses. Bhukti lord Rahu occupies 11th in sign of Mars who > occupies > > 6th (8th from Rahu)... Consider the transit of exalted 3rd lord > Sun > > in this light. > > > > I hope members will put their thinking caps on and really look > deeply > > into this chart...peel back the layers and see what you can find :- > ) > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > > - > > "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27@> > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Monday, April 24, 2006 4:36 PM > > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > > > > Dear Wendy,Neena and Harry, > > > > I think 21.21 can be more accurate as the Lagna turns out to be > > Ardra and not Mriga. > > > > The fact that he is such a great orator can be also seen from the > > fact the lord of 2nd is with the lord of 4th and 5th in the 4th > > house. > > > > However what is difficult to understand is that inspite of having > > Sun so close to ketu in the house of venus how come he rose to such > > heights in politics ( where I think one needs to have a very strong > > Sun. Also presently Sun the lord of the house for younger brother > is > > exalted in 11th. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Neena, Please bear with me. I'm rather bogged down here at the moment with little time to give to the list. Hopefully, once I get on top of things here, I can respond to your posts :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:26 PM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart - Dear Wendy, What are the factors which can lead to a violent death ? Some people are destined for a peaceful death, some for a painful one and some for a violent death. also it is said that one cannot predict an apmrityu. But an apmrityu can be warded off by worship and chanting of mantras, whereas the Mrityu that one is destined for cannot be warded off. I know this is a very depressing topic but any inputs on this I will be grateful for. regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Wendy, Please take note that Mahajan was born on 1949 .This is as per official records .Claiming 1948 with Gemini ascendant is absolutely off the truth. Regards JK mukesh_vats9992 <mukesh_vats9992 wrote: his lagna is gemini. regds..mukesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Neena, Nilesh, Harry and All, > > Using the time of 21:00 the dasa is SA-RA-VE. The time of 21.21 > (given by Harry) also shows SA-RA-VE. A look at the sookshmantar at > time of shooting will help to verify the correct time. > > Not surprising is the presence of 8th lord Saturn in 3rd house of > younger sibling. Sun (self) is afflicted by Ketu (nakshatra lord of > both SA and bhukti lord RA)... Venus PD lord is dispositor of Ketu. > > Both KE/SU occupy nakshatra of Rahu BTW and his dispositor (Mars, > karaka for younger sibling) afflicts both lagna and 4th in > transit...4th house governs chest area. According to the report I > read, three bullets entered his chest and shattered his liver, > pancreas and intestines. > > To the best of my knowledge, the sign Leo (holding dasa lord Saturn) > governs the liver and pancreas, whilst the sign Virgo (holding PD > lord Venus) governs the small intestine etc.. > > Reference here: http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "neenako" <neenako > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:45 AM > Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Pramod Mahajan's d.o.b is 30 October, 1948; p.o.b is Hyderabad and > t.o.b is 21.00 > > this is the data given on Sify site. > > Regards, > Neena > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear JK, I'm sure you'll have no objection to sharing that information with us i.e., what official records you're referring to (precisely) and who has been privy to them. Such a strong statement as you've just made needs to be backed up with fact, don't you agree? If it can't be backed up then it remains only hearsay. Let's do try to get the information correct (with verifiable source) before we put charts forward for study...it's important that the information we have is correct and verifiable! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "raziya sultana" <jyotishkid <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:37 AM Re: Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart Dear Wendy, Please take note that Mahajan was born on 1949 .This is as per official records .Claiming 1948 with Gemini ascendant is absolutely off the truth. Regards JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Neena, We all know the houses associated with death...those who do not can read up on it here http://jyotishvidya.com/ch44.htm 3rd house is said to show the cause of death i.e., diseases or events that may cause/contribute to one's own death. In the chart of Pramod Mahajan (providing the data is correct) 8th lord Saturn occupying 3rd, could be an indication that an act of violence may (ultimately) be the cause of death... Of course Saturn's lordship of 9th cannot be underestimated and we should consider that in terms of PM's good fortune i.e., support for his efforts in life and so forth. We might also consider this as being an indication that, in spite of being critically wounded, he may recover due to the blessing of 9th lordship. Apmrityu (suicide) is also seen in a chart and, in such instances, lagna lord and/or Sun would have to be afflicted...indicating death by one's own hand. There can't be just one indication for death and/or suicide as (with anything) the possible combinations/influences are variable. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "neenako" <neenako <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:26 PM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart - Dear Wendy, What are the factors which can lead to a violent death ? Some people are destined for a peaceful death, some for a painful one and some for a violent death. also it is said that one cannot predict an apmrityu. But an apmrityu can be warded off by worship and chanting of mantras, whereas the Mrityu that one is destined for cannot be warded off. I know this is a very depressing topic but any inputs on this I will be grateful for. regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Members, If I am permitted to write a line here that one can see the role of 22nd Drekkana lord in violent death. If the said lord is afflicted by the malefics, violent death occurs. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Mrs.Wendy, Kindly go to this site:http://rajyasabha.nic.in/ i.e. the page of Rajya Sabha, Parliament of India. In one of its further pages i.e. http://164.100.24.167:8080/notice/ListMPDOB.asp Shri Pramod Mahajan's year of birth is mentioned as October 1949. We all are aware the birth data of famous personalities are always to be seen/treated very carefully. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: There are more than 3 charts are available in respect of Shri Pramod Mahajan, in Jyotish groups. I am not claiming October 1949 is the correct one. It is published in the Web Site of Parliament of India. That is all. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear JK, > > I'm sure you'll have no objection to sharing that information with us > i.e., what official records you're referring to (precisely) and who > has been privy to them. Such a strong statement as you've just made > needs to be backed up with fact, don't you agree? If it can't be > backed up then it remains only hearsay. Let's do try to get the > information correct (with verifiable source) before we put charts > forward for study...it's important that the information we have is > correct and verifiable! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Members, It is for those who are interested on Shri Mahajan :http://164.100.24.167:8080/members/website/Mainweb.asp The following information copied for the interested members from the above URL. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================== MY BIODATA Mahajan , Shri Pramod [bharatiya Janata Party -Maharashtra ] Father's Name : Shri Venkatesh Devidas Mahajan Mother's Name : Shrimati Prabhavati Venkatesh Mahajan Date of Birth : 30 October 1949 Place of Birth : Mahaboobnagar (Andhra Pradesh) Marital Status : Married on 11 March 1972 Spouse's Name : Shrimati Rekha Pramod Mahajan Children : One son and one daughter Educational Qualifications : B.Sc. (Physics), M.A. (Pol. Sc.), B.A. (Journalism) Educated at Yogeshwari Mahavidyalaya, Beed, University of Pune and University of Aurangabad Profession : Social Worker Permanent Address : 1501, Purna Worli, Sagar Co-operative Housing Society, Pochkhanwala Marg, Worli, Mumbai 400025 Tel. - {022} 24935834 Present Address : 7, Safdarjung Road, New Delhi Tel. - 23015432, 23014453 E-mail : pmahajan Positions Held : 1978-85 General Secretary, State Unit of Bharatiya Janata Party, Maharashtra 1983-85 All India Secretary, Bharatiya Janata Party 1986 and 1990-92 All India President, Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha, Youth Wing of B.J.P. July 1986 Elected to Rajya Sabha 1986-87 and 1992-98 All India General Secretary, Bharatiya Janata Party July 1992 Re- elected to Rajya Sabha 1994-96 Chairman, Committee on Transport and Tourism 1996 Minister of Defence 1996-97 Member, Eleventh Lok Sabha 2 April 1998 Appointed as Political Advisor to the Prime Minister of India July 1998 Elected to Rajya Sabha Dec.1998-Oct.1999 Minister of Information and Broadcasting with additional charge of Food Processing Industries 13 Oct.1999-29 Jan. 2003 Minister of Parliamentary Affairs and Water Resources (relinquished the charge of Ministry of Water Resources in November 1999) 22 Nov. 1999-29 Jan. 2003 Minister of Information Technology 1 Sept. 2001-29 Jan. 2003 Minister of Communications 29 Jan. 2003 onwards General Secretary, Bharatiya Janata Party Feb. 2003 - Feb. 2004 Member, Committee on Home Affairs July 2004 Re-elected to Rajya Sabha Aug. 2004 onwards Member, Committee on Defence Freedom Fighter : No Books Published : - Social and Cultural Activities, Literary, Artistic and Scientific Accomplishments and other Special Interests : - Sports, Clubs, Favourite Pastimes and Recreation : - Countries Visited : Extensively travelled in Europe, America, China, South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, Israel, South America and West Asia Other Information : Member, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (R.S.S.) since childhood; second year Sangh Shiksha Varg, activist of Akhil Bharatiya Vidhyarthi Parishad; working as a whole time Pracharak for Jana Sangh, Janata Party and Bharatiya Janata Party since 1974; Sub-Editor, Tarun Bharat, 1970-71; School Teacher, 1971-74; detained in Nasik Road Central Prison, Maharashtra during the Emergency, 1975-77 ================================ -- In jyotish-vidya, "ravindramani" <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Mrs.Wendy, > > Kindly go to this site:http://rajyasabha.nic.in/ i.e. the page of > Rajya Sabha, Parliament of India. > > In one of its further pages i.e. > http://164.100.24.167:8080/notice/ListMPDOB.asp > > Shri Pramod Mahajan's year of birth is mentioned as October 1949. > > We all are aware the birth data of famous personalities are always > to be seen/treated very carefully. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > PS: There are more than 3 charts are available in respect of Shri > Pramod Mahajan, in Jyotish groups. > > I am not claiming October 1949 is the correct one. It is published > in the Web Site of Parliament of India. That is all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Ravindramani, That being the case, Saturn remains in 3rd (Gemini lagna) but is now joined by Mars, significator for younger sibling. This certainly gives more support to the recent event. However the debilitated Sun in 5th (along with) debilitated 10th lord Jupiter in 8th begs some questions? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "ravindramani" <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:18 PM Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart Dear Mrs.Wendy, Kindly go to this site:http://rajyasabha.nic.in/ i.e. the page of Rajya Sabha, Parliament of India. In one of its further pages i.e. http://164.100.24.167:8080/notice/ListMPDOB.asp Shri Pramod Mahajan's year of birth is mentioned as October 1949. We all are aware the birth data of famous personalities are always to be seen/treated very carefully. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: There are more than 3 charts are available in respect of Shri Pramod Mahajan, in Jyotish groups. I am not claiming October 1949 is the correct one. It is published in the Web Site of Parliament of India. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I honestly dont Know which chart is correct. I just read all comments on this thread not only on this group but also in some other groups. As usual, astrologers are justifying the "one particular event at question" from different angles and give their own justification. My point is confined only to the fact that the Web Site of Parliament of India may be treated as one of the reliable documents. But as a Servant of Government of India I can't even say the document is wrong. What to do? Kindly excuse me for not making any further comments on this chart. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. =============================================================== >>>Dear Ravindramani,That being the case, Saturn remains in 3rd (Gemini lagna) but is nowjoined by Mars, significator for younger sibling. This certainlygives more support to the recent event. However the debilitated Sunin 5th (along with) debilitated 10th lord Jupiter in 8th begs somequestions?Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendy>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Wendy, I fully endorse your views. Here is the link, I consider reliable http://rajyasabha.nic.in/kiosk/whoswho/beta_m2.htm Regards JK Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear JK, I'm sure you'll have no objection to sharing that information with us i.e., what official records you're referring to (precisely) and who has been privy to them. Such a strong statement as you've just made needs to be backed up with fact, don't you agree? If it can't be backed up then it remains only hearsay. Let's do try to get the information correct (with verifiable source) before we put charts forward for study...it's important that the information we have is correct and verifiable! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "raziya sultana" <jyotishkid <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:37 AM Re: Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart Dear Wendy, Please take note that Mahajan was born on 1949 .This is as per official records .Claiming 1948 with Gemini ascendant is absolutely off the truth. Regards JK Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 - Well, one does see various versions of PM,s chart on the net. There is ofcourse the info on the rajya sabha site. In India there has been an oft repeated excercise where the official age of the male progeny is not the actual one. This used to happen especially in the earlier decades mainly to give the boys the advantage of age for competitive exams and for purpose of service/ employment. Whether this date of 1949 is the actual one I cannot say. However, considering it to be correct , the presence of Saturn and Mars in 3rd does indicate the event but the rest of the chart does not indicate the rise careerwise in the life of PM. So I would hesitate to take this date to be the correct one. Whereas, the date 1948 and time 20-55 may be more correct, since this shows the dasa/antardasa of 64th navamsa Saturn/Rahu. According to Parasara the lord of 22nd drekkan is also Saturn. The transit of Rahu over the sign of Pisces opposite to natal Moon has precipitated the happening. This ofcourse is based on 1948 year d.o.b. Neena -- In jyotish-vidya, raziya sultana <jyotishkid wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > I fully endorse your views. Here is the link, I consider reliable > > http://rajyasabha.nic.in/kiosk/whoswho/beta_m2.htm > > Regards > JK > Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear JK, > > I'm sure you'll have no objection to sharing that information with us > i.e., what official records you're referring to (precisely) and who > has been privy to them. Such a strong statement as you've just made > needs to be backed up with fact, don't you agree? If it can't be > backed up then it remains only hearsay. Let's do try to get the > information correct (with verifiable source) before we put charts > forward for study...it's important that the information we have is > correct and verifiable! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "raziya sultana" <jyotishkid > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:37 AM > Re: Re: Pramod Mahajan's chart > > > Dear Wendy, > Please take note that Mahajan was born on 1949 .This is as per > official records .Claiming 1948 with Gemini ascendant is absolutely > off the truth. > Regards > JK > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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