Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 naty-asnatas 'tu yogo 'sti na caikantam anasnatah na cati-svapna-silasya jagrato naiva carjuna There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogi, O Arjuna, if one eats too much, or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough. PURPORT - Regulation of diet and sleep is recommended herein for the yogis. Too much eating means eating more than is required to keep the body and soul together. There is no need for men to eat animals, because there is an ample supply of grains, vegetables, fruits and milk. Such simple foodstuff is considered to be in the mode of goodness according to the Bhagavad-gita. Animal food is for those in the mode of ignorance. Therefore, those who indulge in animal food, drinking, smoking and eating food which is not first offered to Krsna will suffer sinful reactions because of eating only polluted things. Bhunjate te tv agham papa ye pacanty atma-karanat. Anyone who eats for sense pleasure, or cooks for himself, not offering his food to Krsna, eats only sin. One who eats sin and eats more than is allotted to him cannot execute perfect yoga. It is best that one eat only the remnants of foodstuff offered to Krsna. A person in Krsna consciousness does not eat anything which is not first offered to Krsna. Therefore, only the Krsna conscious person can attain perfection in yoga practice. Nor can one who artificially abstains from eating, manufacturing his own personal process of fasting, practice yoga. The Krsna conscious person observes fasting as it is recommended in the scriptures. He does not fast or eat more than is required, and he is thus competent to perform yoga practice. One who eats more than required will dream very much while sleeping, and he must consequently sleep more than is required. One should not sleep more than six hours daily. One who sleeps more than six hours out of twenty-four is certainly influenced by the mode of ignorance. A person in the mode of ignorance is lazy and prone to sleep a great deal. Such a person cannot perform yoga. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Dear Harry and All, Let's please keep in mind that this is a forum for the discussion of jyotish. We have members from all corners of the globe, from many different religious, cultural and political backgrounds...the one common thread that binds us as a group is our interest in jyotish. If we confine our discussion to that we will avoid offending anyone's belief, don't you agree? It's only natural that religion will come up from time to time as this is at the very heart of jyotish. But we must endeavour not to sermonise any particular school of thought. The commentary below is clearly the ISKCON version of the Bhagavad-gita - my own preference is Maharishi's commentary - I'm sure others have their own preference also. The policy of Jyotish-Vidya is that all religions are based on the one fundamental truth... "I AM THAT I AM" ...all the rest represents the many different paths we take to arrive at that truth. All the conflict in this world arises from zealots proclaiming that their path is the one true path and all the rest are doomed. Jyotishi's (above all) should know that this is not so! Each soul follows his own path...according to his karma! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:03 PM Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 naty-asnatas 'tu yogo 'sti na caikantam anasnatah na cati-svapna-silasya jagrato naiva carjuna There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogi, O Arjuna, if one eats too much, or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough. PURPORT - Regulation of diet and sleep is recommended herein for the yogis. Too much eating means eating more than is required to keep the body and soul together. There is no need for men to eat animals, because there is an ample supply of grains, vegetables, fruits and milk. Such simple foodstuff is considered to be in the mode of goodness according to the Bhagavad-gita. Animal food is for those in the mode of ignorance. Therefore, those who indulge in animal food, drinking, smoking and eating food which is not first offered to Krsna will suffer sinful reactions because of eating only polluted things. Bhunjate te tv agham papa ye pacanty atma-karanat. Anyone who eats for sense pleasure, or cooks for himself, not offering his food to Krsna, eats only sin. One who eats sin and eats more than is allotted to him cannot execute perfect yoga. It is best that one eat only the remnants of foodstuff offered to Krsna. A person in Krsna consciousness does not eat anything which is not first offered to Krsna. Therefore, only the Krsna conscious person can attain perfection in yoga practice. Nor can one who artificially abstains from eating, manufacturing his own personal process of fasting, practice yoga. The Krsna conscious person observes fasting as it is recommended in the scriptures. He does not fast or eat more than is required, and he is thus competent to perform yoga practice. One who eats more than required will dream very much while sleeping, and he must consequently sleep more than is required. One should not sleep more than six hours daily. One who sleeps more than six hours out of twenty-four is certainly influenced by the mode of ignorance. A person in the mode of ignorance is lazy and prone to sleep a great deal. Such a person cannot perform yoga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Dear Wendy Pls accept my sincere apologies, if I hv hurt any sentiments. Preachings from Bhagwat Gita are not religion based but scientific based, it is a science by itself. Each verse has certain scientific element which helps all in pursuing our lives in a better & systamatic way. It shows us a way how to execute our karma's in a better & refined way. Just as Moon in vedic astrology rules our mind, and as per vedic astrology astology the Lord of Moon is Lord Krsna, it was Lord Krsna who spoke the Gita and showed us a way how to scientifically lead our lives & execute our Karma's. Just as in astrology when dasa's or planets change, our lives get changed or affected, with preachings from Gita will help us how to tackle those moments of our lives in a scientific & refined way without altering our state of conciousness. Anyway I am not tring to justify on any thing, I will stop it. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Harry and All, Let's please keep in mind that this is a forum for the discussion of jyotish. We have members from all corners of the globe, from many different religious, cultural and political backgrounds...the one common thread that binds us as a group is our interest in jyotish. If we confine our discussion to that we will avoid offending anyone's belief, don't you agree? It's only natural that religion will come up from time to time as this is at the very heart of jyotish. But we must endeavour not to sermonise any particular school of thought. The commentary below is clearly the ISKCON version of the Bhagavad-gita - my own preference is Maharishi's commentary - I'm sure others have their own preference also. The policy of Jyotish-Vidya is that all religions are based on the one fundamental truth... "I AM THAT I AM" ...all the rest represents the many different paths we take to arrive at that truth. All the conflict in this world arises from zealots proclaiming that their path is the one true path and all the rest are doomed. Jyotishi's (above all) should know that this is not so! Each soul follows his own path...according to his karma! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:03 PM Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 naty-asnatas 'tu yogo 'sti na caikantam anasnatah na cati-svapna-silasya jagrato naiva carjuna There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogi, O Arjuna, if one eats too much, or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough. PURPORT - Regulation of diet and sleep is recommended herein for the yogis. Too much eating means eating more than is required to keep the body and soul together. There is no need for men to eat animals, because there is an ample supply of grains, vegetables, fruits and milk. Such simple foodstuff is considered to be in the mode of goodness according to the Bhagavad-gita. Animal food is for those in the mode of ignorance. Therefore, those who indulge in animal food, drinking, smoking and eating food which is not first offered to Krsna will suffer sinful reactions because of eating only polluted things. Bhunjate te tv agham papa ye pacanty atma-karanat. Anyone who eats for sense pleasure, or cooks for himself, not offering his food to Krsna, eats only sin. One who eats sin and eats more than is allotted to him cannot execute perfect yoga. It is best that one eat only the remnants of foodstuff offered to Krsna. A person in Krsna consciousness does not eat anything which is not first offered to Krsna. Therefore, only the Krsna conscious person can attain perfection in yoga practice. Nor can one who artificially abstains from eating, manufacturing his own personal process of fasting, practice yoga. The Krsna conscious person observes fasting as it is recommended in the scriptures. He does not fast or eat more than is required, and he is thus competent to perform yoga practice. One who eats more than required will dream very much while sleeping, and he must consequently sleep more than is required. One should not sleep more than six hours daily. One who sleeps more than six hours out of twenty-four is certainly influenced by the mode of ignorance. A person in the mode of ignorance is lazy and prone to sleep a great deal. Such a person cannot perform yoga. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Dear Harry, To avoid any misunderstanding I should make it clear that the Bhagavad-Gita sits on my desktop (along with other dearly-loved religious books). My copy of the Gita (International Gita Society) simply says: (6.16) But, for the one who is moderate in eating, recreation, working, sleeping and waking, the yog of meditation destroys all sorrows. Like everyone who's ever read it, I treasure the Gita. However, what you've offered here is Prabhupada's interpretation and NOT the Gita 'As It Is' (as you say)... I'm simply saying, let's not get into this, as, like the Catholics and Protestants arguing with each other, it's a no-win situation. We should try to respect the fact that everyone has their own way of looking at things...don't you agree? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:21 PM Re: Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 Dear Wendy Pls accept my sincere apologies, if I hv hurt any sentiments. Preachings from Bhagwat Gita are not religion based but scientific based, it is a science by itself. Each verse has certain scientific element which helps all in pursuing our lives in a better & systamatic way. It shows us a way how to execute our karma's in a better & refined way. Just as Moon in vedic astrology rules our mind, and as per vedic astrology astology the Lord of Moon is Lord Krsna, it was Lord Krsna who spoke the Gita and showed us a way how to scientifically lead our lives & execute our Karma's. Just as in astrology when dasa's or planets change, our lives get changed or affected, with preachings from Gita will help us how to tackle those moments of our lives in a scientific & refined way without altering our state of conciousness. Anyway I am not tring to justify on any thing, I will stop it. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Dear Wendy Yeah, I do agree with you. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Harry, To avoid any misunderstanding I should make it clear that the Bhagavad-Gita sits on my desktop (along with other dearly-loved religious books). My copy of the Gita (International Gita Society) simply says: (6.16) But, for the one who is moderate in eating, recreation, working, sleeping and waking, the yog of meditation destroys all sorrows. Like everyone who's ever read it, I treasure the Gita. However, what you've offered here is Prabhupada's interpretation and NOT the Gita 'As It Is' (as you say)... I'm simply saying, let's not get into this, as, like the Catholics and Protestants arguing with each other, it's a no-win situation. We should try to respect the fact that everyone has their own way of looking at things...don't you agree? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:21 PM Re: Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 Dear Wendy Pls accept my sincere apologies, if I hv hurt any sentiments. Preachings from Bhagwat Gita are not religion based but scientific based, it is a science by itself. Each verse has certain scientific element which helps all in pursuing our lives in a better & systamatic way. It shows us a way how to execute our karma's in a better & refined way. Just as Moon in vedic astrology rules our mind, and as per vedic astrology astology the Lord of Moon is Lord Krsna, it was Lord Krsna who spoke the Gita and showed us a way how to scientifically lead our lives & execute our Karma's. Just as in astrology when dasa's or planets change, our lives get changed or affected, with preachings from Gita will help us how to tackle those moments of our lives in a scientific & refined way without altering our state of conciousness. Anyway I am not tring to justify on any thing, I will stop it. Harry Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 BTW the Bhagavad-Gita has been available online on my website http://jyotishvidya.com/gita1.htm for some time now...a couple of years (I think) since I put it up. ___________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 6.16 Dear Wendy Yeah, I do agree with you. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Harry, To avoid any misunderstanding I should make it clear that the Bhagavad-Gita sits on my desktop (along with other dearly-loved religious books). My copy of the Gita (International Gita Society) simply says: (6.16) But, for the one who is moderate in eating, recreation, working, sleeping and waking, the yog of meditation destroys all sorrows. Like everyone who's ever read it, I treasure the Gita. However, what you've offered here is Prabhupada's interpretation and NOT the Gita 'As It Is' (as you say)... I'm simply saying, let's not get into this, as, like the Catholics and Protestants arguing with each other, it's a no-win situation. We should try to respect the fact that everyone has their own way of looking at things...don't you agree? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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