RE: Could Someone Please Ease My Mind???

March 26, 2006

Dear Nyree,

It's my opinion any astrologer worth paying any attention to, worth his salt

at all, would never have written you in this way - and never written you

that you have weak health and a short life span. Not to mention, truly only

God knows our live span.

After taking a glance at your chart, I see no reason for this person writing

this to you. Given that you have a ten minute difference here in your birth

time approximation, it's fortunate for you that with either end of that

time, you have Scorpio as your lagna. Scorpio is a strong sign and in your

case, the lord of Scorpio, Mars, is in Scorpio, making it even stronger. You

yourself say that you've always been really healthy, so perhaps you can take

that as a clear indication that this astrologer, if that's what he/she

really is, knows nothing about your health.

One very simple thought for your father's current health problems, without

diving into your chart in any depth, is that RSaturn is currently in transit

over your 9H of father. In your chart, natal RSaturn also gives a 3H aspect

to this 9H, and if we take the later end of the time estimate you gave for

your birth, since early February you have been in Venus/Mars/Saturn. Saturn

Pratyantar , could also for this time highlight or activate more this

current transit of RSaturn.

Saturn is also the karaka for worry. As Saturn is transiting through Moon's

house, it may be helpful and good to consider that mind - Moon - is all

important and it's of value not to give any belief or credibility to these

unnecessary worries.

Kindest regards,

Patrice

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On Behalf Of nyree

Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:25 PM

jyotish-vidya

Could Someone Please Ease My Mind???

Hi Everyone,

One of my friends told me to post a message on the vedic astrology

message board regarding a career decision I'm thinking of making.

Last night I asked my question on whether I should get my real

estate license or not and this person showed up on my IM.

He or she told me I had weak health in my chart and that I had short

life span. Now, as you can imagine all of my thoughts are on what

this person said.

I've always been really healthy but I have been very stressed out

lately as my Dad has been having health problems and I've had to

fight other family members that have made wrong decision regarding

his health. I feel constantly on guard which has made me feel

physically weak as a result.

My birth data is:

January 11, 1973

Lakenheath, England

Sometime between 5:20 and 5:30 A.M.

I've always been very health conscious with hardly any health

problems but if anyone does see anything, please let me know.

Thank you so much in advance.

Nyree

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March 27, 2006

Dear Patrice,

Thank you very much for your response. It has made me feel a lot

better. I made a decision today to start taking better care of

myself. My Mom actually said something similar to you in that the

person who told me this about my chart was unprofessional and rude

to say the least. I'm definitely not going to worry about it

anymore now that someone else has looked at my chart and doesn't see

anything.

Maybe this was meant to happen to keep me conscious of how I treat

my body. My Dad is a lot better these days but I've still been

constantly on guard to keep anything else from happening to him so

I've been feeling my heart beating a little too fast lately,

especially when I get into bed.

If I could ask on more question of you, is there a way for me to get

a more accurate birth time? My Mom has always said that she looked

at the clock when I was born and it was closer to 5:20 AM but the

nurse insisted that it was 5:30. Are there little things that make

a difference in the accuracy of my chart from not having a specific

time to give?

Thank you again. You've been a great help to me!

jyotish-vidya, "Patrice Curry"

<patricecurry wrote:

>

> Dear Nyree,

>

> It's my opinion any astrologer worth paying any attention to,

worth his salt

> at all, would never have written you in this way - and never

written you

> that you have weak health and a short life span. Not to mention,

truly only

> God knows our live span.

>

> After taking a glance at your chart, I see no reason for this

person writing

> this to you. Given that you have a ten minute difference here in

your birth

> time approximation, it's fortunate for you that with either end of

that

> time, you have Scorpio as your lagna. Scorpio is a strong sign and

in your

> case, the lord of Scorpio, Mars, is in Scorpio, making it even

stronger. You

> yourself say that you've always been really healthy, so perhaps

you can take

> that as a clear indication that this astrologer, if that's what

he/she

> really is, knows nothing about your health.

>

> One very simple thought for your father's current health problems,

without

> diving into your chart in any depth, is that RSaturn is currently

in transit

> over your 9H of father. In your chart, natal RSaturn also gives a

3H aspect

> to this 9H, and if we take the later end of the time estimate you

gave for

> your birth, since early February you have been in

Venus/Mars/Saturn. Saturn

> Pratyantar , could also for this time highlight or activate more

this

> current transit of RSaturn.

>

> Saturn is also the karaka for worry. As Saturn is transiting

through Moon's

> house, it may be helpful and good to consider that mind - Moon -

is all

> important and it's of value not to give any belief or credibility

to these

> unnecessary worries.

>

> Kindest regards,

>

> Patrice

>

> _____

>

> jyotish-vidya [jyotish-

vidya]

> On Behalf Of nyree

> Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:25 PM

> jyotish-vidya

> Could Someone Please Ease My Mind???

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> One of my friends told me to post a message on the vedic astrology

> message board regarding a career decision I'm thinking of making.

>

> Last night I asked my question on whether I should get my real

> estate license or not and this person showed up on my IM.

>

> He or she told me I had weak health in my chart and that I had

short

> life span. Now, as you can imagine all of my thoughts are on what

> this person said.

>

> I've always been really healthy but I have been very stressed out

> lately as my Dad has been having health problems and I've had to

> fight other family members that have made wrong decision regarding

> his health. I feel constantly on guard which has made me feel

> physically weak as a result.

>

> My birth data is:

>

> January 11, 1973

> Lakenheath, England

> Sometime between 5:20 and 5:30 A.M.

>

> I've always been very health conscious with hardly any health

> problems but if anyone does see anything, please let me know.

>

> Thank you so much in advance.

>

> Nyree

>

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March 27, 2006

Hi Nyree,

It sounds like your mom had some great advice for you and I agree with her

completely. It's also obvious that the person who wrote this to you is not a

professional astrologer.

One thing to consider when you're writing for chart advice on these lists is

that you can expect to get a lot of unprofessional comments and totally

incorrect things said to you due to the fact that the lists are not meant

for actual readings, but rather as places for genuine students to learn. The

lists include a whole range of people who have different levels of knowledge

- and some have none really, nor any understanding for the huge

responsibility Jyotish is. As well different levels of understanding - and

perhaps no understanding - of how intimate our comments can be to those

receiving them.

Also, when lists are as a group discussing a chart - and this is done for

learning for the group, sometimes different aspects of the chart, which may

be uncomfortable for the native to hear or perhaps to share with everyone,

are brought out. These things are highlighted with the intention of study.

Over my years of studying I have also met some people who were pretty good

at viewing a chart, but have no sensitivity whatsoever in presenting their

information. And some of these people do give professional readings, so it's

important for anyone genuinely interested in getting their charts read to

research it some before choosing who they would like to read their charts. I

have a couple of friends very interested in having their charts done

professionally, but who are very sensitive and inclined to worry about

anything said, so although I might really like a certain astrologer who

gives readings and think he/she to be exceptionally talented at seeing the

chart, I wouldn't suggest him/her to these people. Rather someone else with

more sensitivity and a different style who can present any issues well, as

well as how to improve on any potential problems or strengthen specific

planets with remedial measures.

>From what you've said, another thing which may be helpful to you Nyree, is

to learn to meditate. With Saturn in your 9H in Cancer, Moon's sign, it

would be a good time for learning to meditate and definitely help you deal

with all that's going on that you've mentioned and what you've said below.

For getting an accurate birth time, there are professional astrologers who

can help you via looking at the transits and correlating them with things

that you've experienced at specific times, and other techniques as well. It

takes a good astrologer with experience to do this and a lot more time in

viewing your chart. Wendy is good at this, but doesn't give readings at this

time. Andrew Lynn, in my opinion, is also good at techniques for this. He

gave me a one minute difference in my chart after my younger brother died by

looking in depth at my chart.

Another great possibility is to see Yogi Karve when he is in the US, which

he has been coming here now for a few years. He is gifted with the ability

to look at you, and sometimes offers this also over the telephone, and will

tell you your exact time of birth. It's an incredible experience to meet

with him. He did give me the same time that Andrew had changed my birth time

to, the one minute difference, and in my chart that made a large change.

In answering your question, yes, it's always best to have the exact time of

birth and more detail can be revealed with that information. To go into

great detail and use many of the different Varga charts, as well as some

techniques it is necessary to have the actual correct time of birth.

In your specific case, the fact that you have a Scorpio lagna with either

end of the time you gave, makes it somewhat easier for readings, as your

lagna and therefore also the houses don't change in either time given. Also

as you have 5 planets in your 2H, Saggitarius, makes it clear the importance

of that house and sign in your chart. Also this shows Jupiter in Saggitarius

and as depositor of all your planets other than Mars in your lagna. This

Mars is Vargottama, again showing its strength, in your Navamsa chart.

Moon doesn't change nakshatras at either end of your time, nor sub lords,

and your ascendant nakshatra lord and sub remain the same (other than sub

lord at 5:20 exactly is Sun verses Venus). As well your Navamsha chart

doesn't change either from a Capricorn lagna, other again than at exactly

5:20.

This all gives you a lot of information for your chart even without the

exact time, and you're fortunate in that as this is not always the case.

Since you're only looking at a 10 minute span and are certain the birth is

within this time, it will be easier finding your correct time than if you

had a wider range, or no birth time at all.

Best wishes to you,

Patrice

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