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dear group

 

my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh prashna

readings in English for

 

my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's website is also

very interesting

 

www.wandahl.com<http://www.wandahl.com/>

 

after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in my collection

 

this simple conclusion was arrived

 

in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

 

when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad results for every

major events

 

when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is capable of

controlling all benefic effects of jup

in this sep up

 

and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable of

controlling Saturn

 

if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

 

kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

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What about the 5/9 relationship of Saturn and Jupiter?

Jupiter aspects Saturn but Saturn does not return the aspect.

You have mentioned that 6/8 position is best Why so?

-- In jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah

wrote:

>

> dear group

>

> my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh

prashna readings in English for

>

> my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's

website is also very interesting

>

> www.wandahl.com<http://www.wandahl.com/>

>

> after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in

my collection

>

> this simple conclusion was arrived

>

> in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

>

> when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad

results for every major events

>

> when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is

capable of controlling all benefic effects of jup

> in this sep up

>

> and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable

of controlling Saturn

>

> if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

>

> kind regs jiger shah

>

>

>

>

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no relation between jup sat is always better so 6/8 is best

 

2/12 is still not so good

 

about 5/9 I thought I mentioned that when jup aspects saturn sat is help less (

harmless)

 

5/9 is same as sat reciving aspect of jup

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neenako<neenako

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:54 AM

Re: sat and jup

 

 

-

What about the 5/9 relationship of Saturn and Jupiter?

Jupiter aspects Saturn but Saturn does not return the aspect.

You have mentioned that 6/8 position is best Why so?

-- In jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>,

"jiger shah" <jigershah

wrote:

>

> dear group

>

> my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh

prashna readings in English for

>

> my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's

website is also very interesting

>

> www.wandahl.com<http://www.wandahl.com/<http://www.wandahl.com/>>

>

> after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in

my collection

>

> this simple conclusion was arrived

>

> in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

>

> when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad

results for every major events

>

> when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is

capable of controlling all benefic effects of jup

> in this sep up

>

> and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable

of controlling Saturn

>

> if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

>

> kind regs jiger shah

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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replying to my own mail

 

this rules are not rules of thumb

 

they are 100 % flexible but generally this principles seemed working to

generate a very accurate nadi reading

 

and there will be charts where this rules may not apply

 

there are so many nadi rules that defy the logic I am in no capacity to find

them

 

what ever emerged out of this ocean I try to share without creating controversy

 

and may not be able to give explain it in greater depth it is up to

 

me and other students to keep them in mind and try to apply them

 

see if they work

 

regs jiger

 

 

the

 

 

 

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jiger shah<jigershah

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:26 AM

sat and jup

 

 

dear group

 

my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh prashna

readings in English for

 

my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's website is also

very interesting

 

www.wandahl.com<http://www.wandahl.com/<http://www.wandahl.com<http://wwwwandahl\

..com/>>

 

after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in my

collection

 

this simple conclusion was arrived

 

in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

 

when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad results for every

major events

 

when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is capable of

controlling all benefic effects of jup

in this sep up

 

and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable of

controlling Saturn

 

if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

 

kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

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a.. Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>" on the web.

 

b..

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\

groups.com?subject=Un>

 

c.. Terms of

Service<>.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Jiger,

 

The problem with these (generic) rules? is that the individual

lordship of the planets may be overlooked entirely.

 

Perhaps, Jiger, you might like to employ the said rule to the

following horoscope and give your interpretation:-)

 

Any other members like to share their thoughts on this chart?

 

Dalai Lama

Jul 6 1935 (04:38)

Tengster Village, China

36N32, 101E12

 

PS: Astrodatabank gives this time an A rating.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"jiger shah" <jigershah

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:26 PM

sat and jup

 

 

dear group

 

my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh

prashna readings in English for

 

my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's

website is also very interesting

 

after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in my

collection

 

this simple conclusion was arrived

 

in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

 

when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad results

for every major events

 

when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is

capable of controlling all benefic effects of jup

in this sep up

 

and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable of

controlling Saturn

 

if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

 

kind regs jiger shah

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Dear Wendy,

 

There is a lot of truth in what Jiger has said about Sat and Jup (

though I may not agree with the 6/8 rule), subject to the usual

variations like lordship, avsthas etc. These other conditions add

their own shades to the complete picture, so it does not remain pure

black and white!!

 

It is often seen and said that Saturn's placement may or may not be

bad but its aspect will always be bad( for want of a better word).

The sting of Saturn will always remain in its aspect, whereas the

aspect of Jupiter will always bring some good even if its placement

is not good. Something to do with their innate qualities?

 

In the horosccopes of religious leaders very often the link between

these two planets is found. But then it would be no? The divine

planet and the planet of austerity, trials and tribulations.

 

I have not seen the horoscope of Dalai Lama as yet But it should be

a good study in tis respect. Will get back on this ASAP.

 

Regards,

 

Neena

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Jiger,

>

> The problem with these (generic) rules? is that the individual

> lordship of the planets may be overlooked entirely.

>

> Perhaps, Jiger, you might like to employ the said rule to the

> following horoscope and give your interpretation:-)

>

> Any other members like to share their thoughts on this chart?

>

> Dalai Lama

> Jul 6 1935 (04:38)

> Tengster Village, China

> 36N32, 101E12

>

> PS: Astrodatabank gives this time an A rating.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "jiger shah" <jigershah

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:26 PM

> sat and jup

>

>

> dear group

>

> my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh

> prashna readings in English for

>

> my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's

> website is also very interesting

>

> after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in

my

> collection

>

> this simple conclusion was arrived

>

> in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

>

> when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad

results

> for every major events

>

> when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is

> capable of controlling all benefic effects of jup

> in this sep up

>

> and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable

of

> controlling Saturn

>

> if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

>

> kind regs jiger shah

>

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Dear Neena,

 

//There is a lot of truth in what Jiger has said about Sat and Jup//

 

Of course there is! this is a basic, Neena, surely! It would be

assumed that even beginners are familiar with the effect of divine

planet Jupiter's aspect on grief causing Saturn. Saturn is the planet

of denial, disappointments, pain, separation etc; and Jupiter is the

planet of good-luck, providence, wealth and happiness.

 

The effect of aspect (one to the other) is elementary...something all

astrologers should have no trouble grasping. It's not a hidden secret

discovered in some Nadi text.

 

//subject to the usual

variations like lordship, avsthas etc. These other conditions add

their own shades to the complete picture, so it does not remain pure

black and white!!//

 

Lordships, avasthas are extremely important...extremely! This is the

reason I offered the Dalai Lama's chart for consideration. Certainly

the spiritual implications are evident, but this aspect of Jupiter

also has (strong) negative implications - highlighting the need to

consider lordship etc., against accepting blind rules.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"neenako" <neenako

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:25 PM

Re: sat and jup

 

 

Dear Wendy,

 

There is a lot of truth in what Jiger has said about Sat and Jup (

though I may not agree with the 6/8 rule), subject to the usual

variations like lordship, avsthas etc. These other conditions add

their own shades to the complete picture, so it does not remain pure

black and white!!

 

It is often seen and said that Saturn's placement may or may not be

bad but its aspect will always be bad( for want of a better word).

The sting of Saturn will always remain in its aspect, whereas the

aspect of Jupiter will always bring some good even if its placement

is not good. Something to do with their innate qualities?

 

In the horosccopes of religious leaders very often the link between

these two planets is found. But then it would be no? The divine

planet and the planet of austerity, trials and tribulations.

 

I have not seen the horoscope of Dalai Lama as yet But it should be

a good study in tis respect. Will get back on this ASAP.

 

Regards,

 

Neena

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dear Wendy,

 

i have the Dalai Lama's chart here in front of me. But before I make

any comment on it just wanted to check out that I had the correct

calculations:

 

asc is Taurus 29*54'

asc lord Venus in 4th house with Moon

yogkaraka Saturn retrograde in 10th

Jupiter in 6th aspecting Saturn without Saturn returning the aspect,

Sun Mercury, Ketu in 2nd house and Rahu in the 8th.

 

This chart has many interesting features. But before I get into

that, please confirm I have the correct chart?

 

Also for comparison we can take another chart:

d.o.b 6July, 1936

t.o.b 3-25 a.m.

p.o.b Lyallpur, Pakistan.

 

And see how the differences in the two charts pan out and affect

fortunes.

 

Regards,

Neena

-- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Neena,

>

> //There is a lot of truth in what Jiger has said about Sat and

Jup//

>

> Of course there is! this is a basic, Neena, surely! It would be

> assumed that even beginners are familiar with the effect of divine

> planet Jupiter's aspect on grief causing Saturn. Saturn is the

planet

> of denial, disappointments, pain, separation etc; and Jupiter is

the

> planet of good-luck, providence, wealth and happiness.

>

> The effect of aspect (one to the other) is elementary...something

all

> astrologers should have no trouble grasping. It's not a hidden

secret

> discovered in some Nadi text.

>

> //subject to the usual

> variations like lordship, avsthas etc. These other conditions add

> their own shades to the complete picture, so it does not remain

pure

> black and white!!//

>

> Lordships, avasthas are extremely important...extremely! This is

the

> reason I offered the Dalai Lama's chart for consideration.

Certainly

> the spiritual implications are evident, but this aspect of Jupiter

> also has (strong) negative implications - highlighting the need to

> consider lordship etc., against accepting blind rules.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "neenako" <neenako

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:25 PM

> Re: sat and jup

>

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> There is a lot of truth in what Jiger has said about Sat and Jup (

> though I may not agree with the 6/8 rule), subject to the usual

> variations like lordship, avsthas etc. These other conditions add

> their own shades to the complete picture, so it does not remain

pure

> black and white!!

>

> It is often seen and said that Saturn's placement may or may not be

> bad but its aspect will always be bad( for want of a better word).

> The sting of Saturn will always remain in its aspect, whereas the

> aspect of Jupiter will always bring some good even if its placement

> is not good. Something to do with their innate qualities?

>

> In the horosccopes of religious leaders very often the link between

> these two planets is found. But then it would be no? The divine

> planet and the planet of austerity, trials and tribulations.

>

> I have not seen the horoscope of Dalai Lama as yet But it should be

> a good study in tis respect. Will get back on this ASAP.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neena

>

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dear wendy

 

in nadi writings a single reading applies to many people

 

al those are born under same brighu yoga

 

have same life patterns

 

even ascend is ignored sometimes predictions are created just

 

using natural zodiac

 

here in lama chart it dose not matter geimini or cancer ascendent

'

the good is obviously present that sat is aspected by jup

 

the evil that satrun brings out the satanic behaviour thoughts

 

evil deeds under influence of saturn is all checked by jup

 

and the better part of saturn like detatchment

 

hard ship is allowed to be at play

 

regs jiger shah

 

 

-

Wendy Vasicek<jyotish

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:01 AM

Re: sat and jup

 

 

Dear Jiger,

 

The problem with these (generic) rules? is that the individual

lordship of the planets may be overlooked entirely.

 

Perhaps, Jiger, you might like to employ the said rule to the

following horoscope and give your interpretation:-)

 

Any other members like to share their thoughts on this chart?

 

Dalai Lama

Jul 6 1935 (04:38)

Tengster Village, China

36N32, 101E12

 

PS: Astrodatabank gives this time an A rating.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com<http://jyotishvidya.com/>

______________________________

 

-

"jiger shah" <jigershah

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:26 PM

sat and jup

 

 

dear group

 

my daily exercise dose of astrology comes from translating brigh

prashna readings in English for

 

my friend and astrologer and brigu reader finn wandahl finn's

website is also very interesting

 

after studying quit a few readings from horoscopes that I have in my

collection

 

this simple conclusion was arrived

 

in a chart jup and sat 6/8 relation is best

 

when jup and sat aspect each other it produces good and bad results

for every major events

 

when jup is aspected by saturn this is worst as saturn alone is

capable of controlling all benefic effects of jup

in this sep up

 

and when jup aspects saturn is good as here jup alone is capable of

controlling Saturn

 

if Saturn is slowest jup is biggest planet

 

kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

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a.. Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>" on the web.

 

b..

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\

groups.com?subject=Un>

 

c.. Terms of

Service<>.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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