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Dear Richard and Group,

 

You Wrote:

//An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.//

 

Sidereal astrologers they may have been - experienced jyotish

pandits, I doubt! Even a half decent jyotisha would know that Saturn

is a dire malefic in your chart. He is both a natural malefic and a

functional malefic (owning 6th/7th bhavas). Saturn is malefic to YOUR

ASCENDANT because of the HOUSES HE RULES not because he

himself is weak...this is basic (according to the rules of

Parashara). What's worse is that this malefic planet is aspecting

your Ascendant lord Sun in 9th house.

 

//I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature.//

 

Of course you did! Ill fortune of all kinds is seen from the 12th

house and by wearing Saturn's ring you have increased his influence

in your life...given him strength over more favourable planets.

 

//It felt like I was into a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting

frequent headaches and my business started slowing down along with my

energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with obstacles and

delays.//

 

Headaches - how can you wonder at this? Saturn's aspect on lagnesh

Sun...you must know that the body part (limbs of kala purusha)

represented by lagna is the head.

 

Many people are thoroughly confused about the (proper)

use of gems. A planet does not become malefic because it's

ill-placed, rather it becomes weak and it's ability to do good is

weakened accordingly. Wearing its gem will increase that planetary

vibration within us, effectively increasing the strength of that

planet (and its power to do good). One doesn't need to be a rocket

scientist to understand that we should not increase the influence

(strength) of a planet that's malefic to our Ascendant - as Saturn is

in your chart Richard.

 

I would be horrified to see someone prescribe a gem for a functional

malefic!

 

///Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.//

 

He's absolutely correct! Gems increase the effect, they DO NOT

paciffy...this again is basic! To ward off the ill effect of malefic

Saturn one should do any (or all) of the following:

 

1) Fast on Saturdays.

2) Offer prayers to lord Hanuman (or at least keep a picture in your

home)..

3) Do Mrtyunjaya japa.

4) Wear a black horseshoe ring.

5) Offer rice with sesame seeds, jaggery and sesame oil as prasadam.

6) Feed crows at home if possible.

 

All these remedies PACIFY Saturn whereas his gem will STRENGTHEN his

effect whether benefic or malefic (according to rulership).

 

NB: Prayers to lord Hanuman.

It's said that Lord Hunuman captured Shani at one time and extracted

from him the promise that he would not harm any of Hanuman's

devotees.

 

//In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Since following this advice I have experienced

much better effects on my health, business and attitude.//

 

Again, this is in accordance with the dictums of Parashara. For you,

Sun is lord of lagna...always benefic for the native! However,

although exalted in 9th house, he is suffering the aspect of malefic

Saturn, therefore strengthening him (further) against this influence

by wearing his gem will be of great benefit. We all know, Richard,

that a YogaKaraka planet is auspicious for the natives and will do

good for the houses he occupies and aspects. However if such a planet

is weak (by placement) his ability to deliver his promise (do good)

is minimised or wholly restricted if he's debilitated.

 

I think (at one time) you may have published the following article on

P-G-A. which explains further the effect of gems on our physiology.

If you scroll down the following page and click on the popup window

"The Vibrations of Our Universe" (left column) you can read the

article...although I think you're familiar with it.

http://jyotishvidya.com/gems.htm

 

//Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire in order to

mitigate Saturn's harmful influence.//

 

I don't doubt that this practice may be beneficial. However, ordinary

folk are rarely in a position to donate such expensive items. Also

who would one donate this gem to? Certainly not to someone for whom

Saturn is malefic in their horoscope.

 

//The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"//

 

There are other remedies Richard! I am one who could never afford a

jyotish quality gem (perhaps in the past but certainly not now). But

I personally would never wear, or recommend, a substitute gem

(upa-ratna). In the words of Maharishi; "You know the difference and

so do the planets". This is my view also.

 

Take care dear Richard, it's been a long time since we've spoken :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66 wrote:

 

Standardize Vedic Gemology

 

Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked her

janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

"maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope and

yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise

gems for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on

them. I hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from

misleading those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic

gems.

 

SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary Gemology.

 

I would first like to address the question of how gems should be

chosen and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems

should be used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group

believes that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost"

beneficial or auspicious planets (Anukula).

 

I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

 

According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet in

its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good than

in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that are

in an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that planets

which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in

strong sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology

for Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560

009, India. 1983)

 

When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the condition

of the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of

Prof. Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet,

but gems DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's

horoscope. The idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like

those in an enemy sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them

auspicious is, in my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

 

This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the belief

that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results will

follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

 

I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling

planet, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that

a planet is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger

will only increase its bad influence.

 

For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

(according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic

Mars and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common

knowledge that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman

says that it would be a BAD influence on the person.

 

In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative idea

that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen their

weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I can

understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not

giving people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the

very worst gem they could use.

 

An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.

 

After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had it

set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty

minutes before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the

ring after reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

 

I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into

a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my

business started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost

everything I did was beset with obstacles and delays.

 

Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research

has shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about

30 days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad position

in my birth chart.

 

Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.

 

In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire

in order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

advice I have experienced much better effects on my health, business

and attitude.

 

II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

 

Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the

method is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s),

not to wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil

(ill-placed) Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one

should DONATE a fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday

evening during the waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using

gems to PACIFY bad or ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

 

III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

 

According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws) are

auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref. Chapter

246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

 

"A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing

rough or sandy, should not be used at all."

 

Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa

Sripad Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

 

"A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong color

banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal cracks, a

sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone

using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

disease, or loss of fortune."

 

Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the use

of ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

 

"These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

completely avoided!"

 

The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is quoted

in Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else would

be, by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to

wear a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

 

IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or good

planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak planets.

 

Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for

bad planets produced BAD results.

 

I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a great

disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and

also telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to advise

that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have

the same real power of a natural gemstone.

 

And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I

do, viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00).

I think this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is

gaining momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and

exalted Vedic science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as

at the present time.

 

If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed

gems are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such

inferior quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow

human beings.

 

V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

 

The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

 

---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the

Sun's being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If

their budget (the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they

are poor (for totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question

of gemstones); if the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if

the budget is $10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case

they can have a flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has

provided a number of natural alternative gems. So, in this case,

everyone, the poor, the rich, and the middle class could all be happy

by purchasing either a...

 

1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

$1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

 

Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red

coral.) or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone

choices based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than

their precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral

energy of their associated planet. They are also easier to find

without flaws or treatment.

 

Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems) known

to man, along with their ruling planets:

 

-(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are

ruled by the Sun;

 

-(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral

are ruled by the Moon;

 

-(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and citrine

are ruled by Jupiter;

 

-(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets are

ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

 

-(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade

are ruled by Mercury;

 

-(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and

quartz are ruled by Venus;

 

-(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline

cat's eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

 

-(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

 

-(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

 

If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they

may opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets

have several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in

enhancing their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies

transmitted by planetary gemstones should select only flawless

specimens. It is in fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear

flawed stones. But since every planet offers a variety of gems from

"first class" to "economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem

that suits one's individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

 

VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

 

In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the highly

regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so

that this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

 

Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

sec or write care of PGA, C3 Building Suan Lum Night Bazaar,

1875 Rama 4 Road, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330, Kingdom of Thailand.

http://www.p-g-a.org

 

Respectfully,

 

Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG Ref.

 

http://www.richardshawbrown

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Dear Mr Richard,

Ratnas as remedial measures whether in the reach of common man or not is

always debatable.Precious and semi precious stones are not just meant for

Planetary purpose.otherway it is not just precious and semi precious stones.No

doubt precious and semi precious stone may also help a person to improve his

lot.Then question is why only through Gemology and also why to characterise to

vedic Astrology.From times imemmorial usage of precious stones as a symbol

status and in royal courts always made place.it is through the cultures and

various civilisations applications of gems for remedial usages was

initiated.Extent of benifit or otherwise again remained as a matter of

subjectivity.By the time all purohits and learned pandits in whose hands Vedic

Astrology developed several ways of pariharas to improve lot of the needy.

 

when alternate methods/procedures as per sastras are available whcih are also

based on faith and trust,one would like to opt for a choice which is not in

doubt and has no repercussions whatever.

Praying and able to seek help,blessings in our own humble way has no

parallel.All our problems whether due to Astrological reasons or otherwise have

to be resolved with our own self.For this most important requisite is to keep

trust on ourselves.

Even if some kind of satndardisation is attempted,gems usage will be very

little.Along with them you need to associate some Dhatu -metal be it gold,silver

or something else.

A person in problem and in distress would believe in things which are of his

immediate reach,it is undoubtedly prayers and help of learned persons.Such help

is always extended for propogating knowledge and get recognition.This continues

to be the simplest method for common man and certainly not gems.

krishnan

 

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear Richard and Group,

 

You Wrote:

//An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.//

 

Sidereal astrologers they may have been - experienced jyotish

pandits, I doubt! Even a half decent jyotisha would know that Saturn

is a dire malefic in your chart. He is both a natural malefic and a

functional malefic (owning 6th/7th bhavas). Saturn is malefic to YOUR

ASCENDANT because of the HOUSES HE RULES not because he

himself is weak...this is basic (according to the rules of

Parashara). What's worse is that this malefic planet is aspecting

your Ascendant lord Sun in 9th house.

 

//I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature.//

 

Of course you did! Ill fortune of all kinds is seen from the 12th

house and by wearing Saturn's ring you have increased his influence

in your life...given him strength over more favourable planets.

 

//It felt like I was into a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting

frequent headaches and my business started slowing down along with my

energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with obstacles and

delays.//

 

Headaches - how can you wonder at this? Saturn's aspect on lagnesh

Sun...you must know that the body part (limbs of kala purusha)

represented by lagna is the head.

 

Many people are thoroughly confused about the (proper)

use of gems. A planet does not become malefic because it's

ill-placed, rather it becomes weak and it's ability to do good is

weakened accordingly. Wearing its gem will increase that planetary

vibration within us, effectively increasing the strength of that

planet (and its power to do good). One doesn't need to be a rocket

scientist to understand that we should not increase the influence

(strength) of a planet that's malefic to our Ascendant - as Saturn is

in your chart Richard.

 

I would be horrified to see someone prescribe a gem for a functional

malefic!

 

///Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.//

 

He's absolutely correct! Gems increase the effect, they DO NOT

paciffy...this again is basic! To ward off the ill effect of malefic

Saturn one should do any (or all) of the following:

 

1) Fast on Saturdays.

2) Offer prayers to lord Hanuman (or at least keep a picture in your

home)..

3) Do Mrtyunjaya japa.

4) Wear a black horseshoe ring.

5) Offer rice with sesame seeds, jaggery and sesame oil as prasadam.

6) Feed crows at home if possible.

 

All these remedies PACIFY Saturn whereas his gem will STRENGTHEN his

effect whether benefic or malefic (according to rulership).

 

NB: Prayers to lord Hanuman.

It's said that Lord Hunuman captured Shani at one time and extracted

from him the promise that he would not harm any of Hanuman's

devotees.

 

//In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Since following this advice I have experienced

much better effects on my health, business and attitude.//

 

Again, this is in accordance with the dictums of Parashara. For you,

Sun is lord of lagna...always benefic for the native! However,

although exalted in 9th house, he is suffering the aspect of malefic

Saturn, therefore strengthening him (further) against this influence

by wearing his gem will be of great benefit. We all know, Richard,

that a YogaKaraka planet is auspicious for the natives and will do

good for the houses he occupies and aspects. However if such a planet

is weak (by placement) his ability to deliver his promise (do good)

is minimised or wholly restricted if he's debilitated.

 

I think (at one time) you may have published the following article on

P-G-A. which explains further the effect of gems on our physiology.

If you scroll down the following page and click on the popup window

"The Vibrations of Our Universe" (left column) you can read the

article...although I think you're familiar with it.

http://jyotishvidya.com/gems.htm

 

//Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire in order to

mitigate Saturn's harmful influence.//

 

I don't doubt that this practice may be beneficial. However, ordinary

folk are rarely in a position to donate such expensive items. Also

who would one donate this gem to? Certainly not to someone for whom

Saturn is malefic in their horoscope.

 

//The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"//

 

There are other remedies Richard! I am one who could never afford a

jyotish quality gem (perhaps in the past but certainly not now). But

I personally would never wear, or recommend, a substitute gem

(upa-ratna). In the words of Maharishi; "You know the difference and

so do the planets". This is my view also.

 

Take care dear Richard, it's been a long time since we've spoken :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66 wrote:

 

Standardize Vedic Gemology

 

Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked her

janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

"maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope and

yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise

gems for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on

them. I hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from

misleading those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic

gems.

 

SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary Gemology.

 

I would first like to address the question of how gems should be

chosen and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems

should be used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group

believes that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost"

beneficial or auspicious planets (Anukula).

 

I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

 

According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet in

its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good than

in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that are

in an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that planets

which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in

strong sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology

for Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560

009, India. 1983)

 

When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the condition

of the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of

Prof. Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet,

but gems DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's

horoscope. The idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like

those in an enemy sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them

auspicious is, in my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

 

This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the belief

that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results will

follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

 

I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling

planet, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that

a planet is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger

will only increase its bad influence.

 

For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

(according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic

Mars and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common

knowledge that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman

says that it would be a BAD influence on the person.

 

In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative idea

that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen their

weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I can

understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not

giving people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the

very worst gem they could use.

 

An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.

 

After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had it

set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty

minutes before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the

ring after reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

 

I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into

a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my

business started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost

everything I did was beset with obstacles and delays.

 

Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research

has shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about

30 days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad position

in my birth chart.

 

Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.

 

In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire

in order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

advice I have experienced much better effects on my health, business

and attitude.

 

II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

 

Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the

method is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s),

not to wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil

(ill-placed) Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one

should DONATE a fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday

evening during the waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using

gems to PACIFY bad or ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

 

III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

 

According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws) are

auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref. Chapter

246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

 

"A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing

rough or sandy, should not be used at all."

 

Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa

Sripad Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

 

"A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong color

banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal cracks, a

sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone

using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

disease, or loss of fortune."

 

Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the use

of ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

 

"These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

completely avoided!"

 

The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is quoted

in Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else would

be, by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to

wear a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

 

IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or good

planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak planets.

 

Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for

bad planets produced BAD results.

 

I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a great

disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and

also telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to advise

that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have

the same real power of a natural gemstone.

 

And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I

do, viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00).

I think this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is

gaining momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and

exalted Vedic science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as

at the present time.

 

If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed

gems are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such

inferior quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow

human beings.

 

V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

 

The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

 

---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the

Sun's being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If

their budget (the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they

are poor (for totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question

of gemstones); if the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if

the budget is $10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case

they can have a flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has

provided a number of natural alternative gems. So, in this case,

everyone, the poor, the rich, and the middle class could all be happy

by purchasing either a...

 

1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

$1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

 

Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red

coral.) or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone

choices based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than

their precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral

energy of their associated planet. They are also easier to find

without flaws or treatment.

 

Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems) known

to man, along with their ruling planets:

 

-(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are

ruled by the Sun;

 

-(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral

are ruled by the Moon;

 

-(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and citrine

are ruled by Jupiter;

 

-(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets are

ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

 

-(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade

are ruled by Mercury;

 

-(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and

quartz are ruled by Venus;

 

-(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline

cat's eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

 

-(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

 

-(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

 

If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they

may opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets

have several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in

enhancing their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies

transmitted by planetary gemstones should select only flawless

specimens. It is in fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear

flawed stones. But since every planet offers a variety of gems from

"first class" to "economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem

that suits one's individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

 

VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

 

In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the highly

regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so

that this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

 

Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

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Dear Krishnan,

 

//Ratnas as remedial measures whether in the reach of common man or not is

always debatable.//

 

Not so Krishnan - Gems certainly are legitimate remedial measures that have a

very powerful effect on the grahas - there can be no doubt of this at all. What

is in question is the astrologers understanding of the proper use of gems.

 

//it is through the cultures and various civilisations applications of gems for

remedial usages was initiated.//

 

Please explain?

 

//when alternate methods/procedures as per sastras are available whcih are also

based on faith and trust,one would like to opt for a choice which is not in

doubt and has no repercussions whatever.

Praying and able to seek help,blessings in our own humble way has no

parallel.All our problems whether due to Astrological reasons or otherwise have

to be resolved with our own self.For this most important requisite is to keep

trust on ourselves.//

 

Natives undergoing negative planetary influences can find it very difficult to

maintain faith and trust in anything, let alone in themselves, don't you agree?

A mind under duress, during difficult Sade Sati for instance, is often faced

with the dilemma of not being able to focus on prayer and ritual. Some help that

doesn't demand too much mental effort is (often) required.

 

//A person in problem and in distress would believe in things which are of his

immediate reach,it is undoubtedly prayers and help of learned persons.Such help

is always extended for propogating knowledge and get recognition.This continues

to be the simplest method for common man and certainly not gems.//

 

This is the part that concerns me the most; that it's the "recognition" that

motivates rather than the desire to help/serve. The most common situation today

is that Astrologers, who themselves are still very much learners, offer advice

to people for the purpose of gaining recognition. Often they present their

advice in a shrouded manner (which sounds very knowledgeable to the layman) and

rarely offer logical explanations to back up their statements. Unsuspecting

querents go away thinking they've received the best advice from some

knowledgeable sage.

 

This is a trend that seems to have pervaded most lists today. What were once

(initially) forums for students and experienced astrologers alike to share the

knowledge of this divine science have become little more than shop windows for

those seeking astrological advice (from, alarmingly, those unqualified to give

it).

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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vattem krishnan

jyotish-vidya

Monday, March 13, 2006 11:38 PM

Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION

 

 

Dear Mr Richard,

Ratnas as remedial measures whether in the reach of common man or not is

always debatable.Precious and semi precious stones are not just meant for

Planetary purpose.otherway it is not just precious and semi precious stones.No

doubt precious and semi precious stone may also help a person to improve his

lot.Then question is why only through Gemology and also why to characterise to

vedic Astrology.From times imemmorial usage of precious stones as a symbol

status and in royal courts always made place.it is through the cultures and

various civilisations applications of gems for remedial usages was

initiated.Extent of benifit or otherwise again remained as a matter of

subjectivity.By the time all purohits and learned pandits in whose hands Vedic

Astrology developed several ways of pariharas to improve lot of the needy.

 

when alternate methods/procedures as per sastras are available whcih are also

based on faith and trust,one would like to opt for a choice which is not in

doubt and has no repercussions whatever.

Praying and able to seek help,blessings in our own humble way has no

parallel.All our problems whether due to Astrological reasons or otherwise have

to be resolved with our own self.For this most important requisite is to keep

trust on ourselves.

Even if some kind of satndardisation is attempted,gems usage will be very

little.Along with them you need to associate some Dhatu -metal be it gold,silver

or something else.

A person in problem and in distress would believe in things which are of his

immediate reach,it is undoubtedly prayers and help of learned persons.Such help

is always extended for propogating knowledge and get recognition.This continues

to be the simplest method for common man and certainly not gems.

krishnan

 

 

 

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dear sir

 

harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

 

works every time lesser you eat on saturday

 

lesser will be the influence of saturn

 

better yet message of sesame seed oil

 

not hanuman but worship to lord shankar will

 

be very helpful for saturn

 

i suggest copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

 

magnet is a form of iron aswell

 

regs jiger

 

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Monday, March 13, 2006 2:39 AM

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Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION

 

Dear Richard and Group,

 

You Wrote:

//An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.//

 

Sidereal astrologers they may have been - experienced jyotish

pandits, I doubt! Even a half decent jyotisha would know that Saturn

is a dire malefic in your chart. He is both a natural malefic and a

functional malefic (owning 6th/7th bhavas). Saturn is malefic to YOUR

ASCENDANT because of the HOUSES HE RULES not because he

himself is weak...this is basic (according to the rules of

Parashara). What's worse is that this malefic planet is aspecting

your Ascendant lord Sun in 9th house.

 

//I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature.//

 

Of course you did! Ill fortune of all kinds is seen from the 12th

house and by wearing Saturn's ring you have increased his influence

in your life...given him strength over more favourable planets.

 

//It felt like I was into a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting

frequent headaches and my business started slowing down along with my

energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with obstacles and

delays.//

 

Headaches - how can you wonder at this? Saturn's aspect on lagnesh

Sun...you must know that the body part (limbs of kala purusha)

represented by lagna is the head.

 

Many people are thoroughly confused about the (proper)

use of gems. A planet does not become malefic because it's

ill-placed, rather it becomes weak and it's ability to do good is

weakened accordingly. Wearing its gem will increase that planetary

vibration within us, effectively increasing the strength of that

planet (and its power to do good). One doesn't need to be a rocket

scientist to understand that we should not increase the influence

(strength) of a planet that's malefic to our Ascendant - as Saturn is

in your chart Richard.

 

I would be horrified to see someone prescribe a gem for a functional

malefic!

 

///Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.//

 

He's absolutely correct! Gems increase the effect, they DO NOT

paciffy...this again is basic! To ward off the ill effect of malefic

Saturn one should do any (or all) of the following:

 

1) Fast on Saturdays.

2) Offer prayers to lord Hanuman (or at least keep a picture in your

home)..

3) Do Mrtyunjaya japa.

4) Wear a black horseshoe ring.

5) Offer rice with sesame seeds, jaggery and sesame oil as prasadam.

6) Feed crows at home if possible.

 

All these remedies PACIFY Saturn whereas his gem will STRENGTHEN his

effect whether benefic or malefic (according to rulership).

 

NB: Prayers to lord Hanuman.

It's said that Lord Hunuman captured Shani at one time and extracted

from him the promise that he would not harm any of Hanuman's

devotees.

 

//In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Since following this advice I have experienced

much better effects on my health, business and attitude.//

 

Again, this is in accordance with the dictums of Parashara. For you,

Sun is lord of lagna...always benefic for the native! However,

although exalted in 9th house, he is suffering the aspect of malefic

Saturn, therefore strengthening him (further) against this influence

by wearing his gem will be of great benefit. We all know, Richard,

that a YogaKaraka planet is auspicious for the natives and will do

good for the houses he occupies and aspects. However if such a planet

is weak (by placement) his ability to deliver his promise (do good)

is minimised or wholly restricted if he's debilitated.

 

I think (at one time) you may have published the following article on

P-G-A. which explains further the effect of gems on our physiology.

If you scroll down the following page and click on the popup window

"The Vibrations of Our Universe" (left column) you can read the

article...although I think you're familiar with it.

http://jyotishvidya.com/gems.htm

 

//Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire in order to

mitigate Saturn's harmful influence.//

 

I don't doubt that this practice may be beneficial. However, ordinary

folk are rarely in a position to donate such expensive items. Also

who would one donate this gem to? Certainly not to someone for whom

Saturn is malefic in their horoscope.

 

//The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"//

 

There are other remedies Richard! I am one who could never afford a

jyotish quality gem (perhaps in the past but certainly not now). But

I personally would never wear, or recommend, a substitute gem

(upa-ratna). In the words of Maharishi; "You know the difference and

so do the planets". This is my view also.

 

Take care dear Richard, it's been a long time since we've spoken :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

, Richard Shaw Brown

<rsbj66 wrote:

 

Standardize Vedic Gemology

 

Once I was approached by a devotee wanting a flawless ruby for his

wife. The ruby was prescribed by a devotee astrologer. We checked her

janma-patri and Sun, the lord of ruby, was debilitated or giving

"maximum harm;" Sun was the worst planet in his wife's horoscope and

yet she was advised to use ruby!? Most devotee astrologers advise

gems for the devotee's BAD planets, and thus they inflict harm on

them. I hope this appeal will save the devotee astrologers from

misleading those souls wanting to benefit by wearing auspicious Vedic

gems.

 

SUBJECT: Standardization of the Vedic Science of Planetary Gemology.

 

I would first like to address the question of how gems should be

chosen and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems

should be used to "pacify" harmful (Pratikul) planets; another group

believes that gems should be used to "strengthen" or to "boost"

beneficial or auspicious planets (Anukula).

 

I GEM COLOR (planetary associations):

 

According to Late Great B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A

planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet in

its sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good than

in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered

powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets that are

in an enemy sign or which are debilitated usually have a harmful or

inauspicious influence. Thus Professor Raman also states that planets

which are debilitated give results opposite of when they are in

strong sign position - in other words, bad results. (Ref. Astrology

for Beginners. IBH Prakashana, Fifth Main, Gandhinagar, Bangalore 560

009, India. 1983)

 

When using any planet's gem, the result will depend on the condition

of the planet in one's horoscope (as per the above conclusion of

Prof. Raman). Gems DO magnify the energy and influence of a planet,

but gems DO NOT change the angle or position of a planet in one's

horoscope. The idea that gems will strengthen weak planets (like

those in an enemy sign or sign of debilitation) and thereby make them

auspicious is, in my opinion, an incorrect understanding.

 

This conclusion, which I believe to be erroneous, leads to the belief

that br providing the gem for a malefic planet, benefic results will

follow: Which we have shown to be completely false.

 

I believe that a gem WILL increase the influence of it's ruling

planet, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, depending on the position or angle that

a planet is placed in one's horoscope. To make a BAD planet stronger

will only increase its bad influence.

 

For example, whenever people ask me what [gem] is good for them

(according to their janma-patri) I CANNOT point out their malefic

Mars and say that Coral for Mars is good for them. It is common

knowledge that having any planet malefic is NOT GOOD! Prof. Raman

says that it would be a BAD influence on the person.

 

In 1982 and again in 1988 I published a book called "Handbook of

Planetary Gemology." In this book I also advocated the negative idea

that gems should be chosen for bad (weak) planets to strengthen their

weakness. In fact, I actually practiced this negative or PRATIKUL

method of gem selection for clients from 1975 to 1990, and now I can

understand why my first 15 years were so discouraging. I was not

giving people what was GOOD for them; rather I was dispensing the

very worst gem they could use.

 

An illustration of this concept can be taken from one of my own

experiences with gem therapy. Saturn in particular is a krura-graha,

or cruel planet, and its position in my horoscope is even worse.

Still, I was advised by most sidereal astrologers to use a blue

sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" or CHANGE Saturn's

harmful influence on me.

 

After a long search I found a flawless, unburned, top color Burmese

blue sapphire weighing just over 7 carats. I bought the gem, had it

set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty

minutes before sunset (during the waxing Moon), and I installed the

ring after reciting the appropriate mantras to Shanideva.

 

I began having ill fortune as soon as I started wearing this most

auspicious and completely flawless blue sapphire, and the bad

influence was totally of a saturnine nature. It felt like I was into

a Shani Mahadasha period. I started getting frequent headaches and my

business started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost

everything I did was beset with obstacles and delays.

 

Finally, after using the gem for almost a year, I took it off in

frustration. And slowly I began to feel relief (Note: Our research

has shown that the influence of blue sapphire for Saturn takes about

30 days to wear off). So the blue sapphire didn't 'pacify' my cruel

Saturn, it didn't strengthen my so-called weak Saturn; rather it

increased Saturn's evil influence on me according to its bad position

in my birth chart.

 

Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit

Vidyadhar Shukla, the current Chief Brahmin Priest and leading Vedic

astrologer of Thailand, who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a bad

influence for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had

made matters worse, this was a good case against the theory that gems

"pacify" harmful planets.

 

In my chart Sun is exalted in Aries in the 9th house as lord of my

lagna, Leo. Pandit Vidyadhar suggested that I should wear a ruby to

"strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract or overpower Saturn's

harmful influence. Panditji also told me to "donate" a blue sapphire

in order to mitigate Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this

advice I have experienced much better effects on my health, business

and attitude.

 

II GEM DONATIONS (using gems to pacify harmful planets)

 

Gems CAN be used to 'pacify' bad or ill-placed planets, but the

method is to sacrifice or DONATE the gem(s) for one's bad planet(s),

not to wear the gem oneself. For example: To propitiate an evil

(ill-placed) Rahu in one's horoscope, it is recommended that one

should DONATE a fine hessonite (gomeda) gem to a leper on Saturday

evening during the waxing Moon. This is the recommendation for using

gems to PACIFY bad or ill-placed planet(s) in one's horoscope.

 

III GEM CLARITY (Is a gem dead or alive?)

 

According to Shastra only EYE-CLEAN gems (free of visible flaws) are

auspicious and flawed gems "should not be used at all!" Ref. Chapter

246 of the Sanskrit classic "Agni-Puranam"...

 

"A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing

rough or sandy, should not be used at all."

 

Or consider this bit of gemological advice spoken by Paramahansa

Sripad Suta Goswami in Chapter 69 of "Sri Garuda Purana"...

 

"A ruby, although genuine, should not be worn if it has strong color

banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal cracks, a

sandy appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone

using such a flawed ruby, even out of ignorance, will suffer from

disease, or loss of fortune."

 

Over and over the Shastras repeatedly order, "No flawed gems!" For

instance, here is another quote from Sri Garuda Purana about the use

of ordinary colorless quartz (Bishma-ratna),

 

"These [before mentioned auspicious] attributes pertain to pure

flawless quartz, and knowledgeable gemologists advise that flawed

varieties that are included, fractured, or discolored should be

completely avoided!"

 

The required quality standard for Vedic Planetary Gemology is quoted

in Sanskrit as "sujyam-amalam" or top color (sujati=high born) and

flawless (amala). This is the only good standard and all else would

be, by definition, sub-standard or even worthless; I ask who wants to

wear a 'flawed' gem if it is deemed harmful?

 

IV CONCLUSION (Harness the pure power of your lucky stars)

My conclusions are based on Vedic scripture, common sense, and a 25

year study of over 5,000 persons using gems for their strong or good

planets, as well as others using gems for their bad or weak planets.

 

Gems related to good planets produced good results, while gems for

bad planets produced BAD results.

 

I think that some of today's Kali-yuga astrologers are doing a great

disservice to the public by prescribing gems for BAD planets, and

also telling people that it is OK to use FLAWED gems, in complete

contradiction of the Shastras. Some are even so foolish as to advise

that synthetic (lab-created) gems are "real," i.e., that they have

the same real power of a natural gemstone.

 

And I have observed that whenever I tell most Indian people what I

do, viz., Planetary Gemology, their immediate thought is of a beggar

sitting in the gutter and selling people their CHART, their GEM

PRESCRIPTION A-N-D their GEMSTONE, for Rs.100 (around $ 3.00).

I think this is a disgrace and it is proof that the evil Kali Yuga is

gaining momentum. It is really unfortunate when an ancient and

exalted Vedic science like Planetary Gemology becomes so degraded as

at the present time.

 

If it is true that bad planetary gems can harm a person and flawed

gems are actually inauspicious, then those who recommend such

inferior quality of stones are guilty of inflicting harm on fellow

human beings.

 

V PRICE (Are flawless gems only for the rich?)

 

The question may be raised, "If only flawless gems are good luck,

does that mean that good luck is only for the rich people who can

afford the price of a flawless gem?" The question can be expanded:

"Flawed, common gems are available to every one, rich and poor alike,

but flawless,CLEAN gems are very expensive. Only the wealthy people

can afford flawless, top quality gems, and that leaves nothing for

the masses. If only CLEAN gems are auspicious, where does that leave

the middle and poor classes? Are flawless gems only for the rich?"

 

---Suppose a person is advised to use a Sun jewel because of the

Sun's being posited in an auspicious sign in their horoscope. If

their budget (the amount a person can spend) is only $100 then they

are poor (for totally poverty-stricken persons there is no question

of gemstones); if the amount is $1,000 then they are middle class; if

the budget is $10,000 or more then they are rich. But in every case

they can have a flawless, natural Sun gem, because Nature has

provided a number of natural alternative gems. So, in this case,

everyone, the poor, the rich, and the middle class could all be happy

by purchasing either a...

 

1) Flawless red garnet for $100. (Poor) 2) Flawless red spinel for

$1,000. (Middle), or 3) Flawless red ruby for $10,000. (Rich)

 

Along with the Navaratna (viz., Ruby, pearl, yellow sapphire,

hessonite, emerald, diamond, cat's eye, blue sapphire, and red

coral.) or nine primary gems, there are many other natural gemstone

choices based on color. These "upa-ratnas" are less expensive than

their precious counterparts and yet they conduct the same astral

energy of their associated planet. They are also easier to find

without flaws or treatment.

 

Here is a list of the foremost upa-ratna (semi-precious gems) known

to man, along with their ruling planets:

 

-(RUBY) Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are

ruled by the Sun;

 

-(NATURAL PEARL) Moonstone & (natural-death) Ivory and white coral

are ruled by the Moon;

 

-(YELLOW SAPPHIRE) Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor) and citrine

are ruled by Jupiter;

 

-(HESSONITE) Spessartite, orange zircon and other orange garnets are

ruled by Rahu (North Node of the Moon);

 

-(EMERALD) Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and jade

are ruled by Mercury;

 

-(DIAMOND) White (colorless) sapphire, topaz, zircon, beryl and

quartz are ruled by Venus;

 

-(CAT'S EYE CHRYSOBERYL) Beryl, apatite, fibrolite and tourmaline

cat's eyes are ruled by Ketu (South Node of the Moon);

 

-(BLUE SAPPHIRE) Tanzanite (blue zoisite), blue spinel, iolite and

amethyst are ruled by Saturn;

 

-(RED CORAL) Carnelian and bloodstone are ruled by Mars.

 

If one cannot afford the price of a flawless ruby or diamond, they

may opt instead for a flawless but far less expensive red garnet or

colorless quartz crystal. All of the Sidereal astrological planets

have several varieties of gems that transmit they're cosmic energies,

beginning with the primary, most precious gems and followed by

secondary, less expensive gems. It's better, for example, to wear a

flawless red garnet than a flawed ruby. People interested in

enhancing their lives through the auspicious cosmic energies

transmitted by planetary gemstones should select only flawless

specimens. It is in fact better to wear no gems at all than to wear

flawed stones. But since every planet offers a variety of gems from

"first class" to "economy class," one may easily pick a flawless gem

that suits one's individual budget as well as one's horoscope.

 

VI REQUEST FOR STANDARDIZATION:

 

In conclusion I would like to suggest that the editors of the highly

regarded authority, the Astrological Magazine, recruit the world's

leading astrologers to standardize the system of Vedic Planetary

Gemology. This standardization will help to eliminate some of the

current fraudulent practices of crooks and deluded astrologers so

that this ancient science can benefit the population at large.

 

Thank you for reading this message and considering our opinion. Any

comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Please contact me by

sec or write care of PGA, C3 Building Suan Lum Night Bazaar,

1875 Rama 4 Road, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330, Kingdom of Thailand.

http://www.p-g-a.org

 

Respectfully,

 

Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG Ref.

 

http://www.richardshawbrown

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear Wendy,

 

Just adding to the gem therapy, especially the use of Sapphire.

 

In India the asrologers are very cautious in the prescription of

this gem.

If it is of very good quality it has extremely potent powers to

alter the fortunes of an individual for better or for worse.

 

In fact it is often advised that the gem be tested before adopted

for use. Pandits say that it should be wrapped in a piece of black

cloth and kept under the pillow at night. If it does not suit a

person, he /she gets nightmarish dreams. In that case it should not

be worn.

 

But a Sapphire, if it suits one can take one to the heights of

acheivements.

 

Personally I do not have any experience of this.

 

However, gems do help if used in the right way.

 

Regards,

 

neena

 

-- In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishnan,

>

> //Ratnas as remedial measures whether in the reach of common man

or not is always debatable.//

>

> Not so Krishnan - Gems certainly are legitimate remedial measures

that have a very powerful effect on the grahas - there can be no

doubt of this at all. What is in question is the astrologers

understanding of the proper use of gems.

>

> //it is through the cultures and various civilisations

applications of gems for remedial usages was initiated.//

>

> Please explain?

>

> //when alternate methods/procedures as per sastras are available

whcih are also based on faith and trust,one would like to opt for a

choice which is not in doubt and has no repercussions whatever.

> Praying and able to seek help,blessings in our own humble way

has no parallel.All our problems whether due to Astrological reasons

or otherwise have to be resolved with our own self.For this most

important requisite is to keep trust on ourselves.//

>

> Natives undergoing negative planetary influences can find it very

difficult to maintain faith and trust in anything, let alone in

themselves, don't you agree? A mind under duress, during difficult

Sade Sati for instance, is often faced with the dilemma of not being

able to focus on prayer and ritual. Some help that doesn't demand

too much mental effort is (often) required.

>

> //A person in problem and in distress would believe in things

which are of his immediate reach,it is undoubtedly prayers and help

of learned persons.Such help is always extended for propogating

knowledge and get recognition.This continues to be the simplest

method for common man and certainly not gems.//

>

> This is the part that concerns me the most; that it's

the "recognition" that motivates rather than the desire to

help/serve. The most common situation today is that Astrologers, who

themselves are still very much learners, offer advice to people for

the purpose of gaining recognition. Often they present their advice

in a shrouded manner (which sounds very knowledgeable to the layman)

and rarely offer logical explanations to back up their statements.

Unsuspecting querents go away thinking they've received the best

advice from some knowledgeable sage.

>

> This is a trend that seems to have pervaded most lists today. What

were once (initially) forums for students and experienced

astrologers alike to share the knowledge of this divine science have

become little more than shop windows for those seeking astrological

advice (from, alarmingly, those unqualified to give it).

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> vattem krishnan

> jyotish-vidya

> Monday, March 13, 2006 11:38 PM

> Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

STANDARDIZATION

>

>

> Dear Mr Richard,

> Ratnas as remedial measures whether in the reach of common man

or not is always debatable.Precious and semi precious stones are not

just meant for Planetary purpose.otherway it is not just precious

and semi precious stones.No doubt precious and semi precious stone

may also help a person to improve his lot.Then question is why only

through Gemology and also why to characterise to vedic

Astrology.From times imemmorial usage of precious stones as a symbol

status and in royal courts always made place.it is through the

cultures and various civilisations applications of gems for remedial

usages was initiated.Extent of benifit or otherwise again remained

as a matter of subjectivity.By the time all purohits and learned

pandits in whose hands Vedic Astrology developed several ways of

pariharas to improve lot of the needy.

>

> when alternate methods/procedures as per sastras are available

whcih are also based on faith and trust,one would like to opt for a

choice which is not in doubt and has no repercussions whatever.

> Praying and able to seek help,blessings in our own humble way

has no parallel.All our problems whether due to Astrological reasons

or otherwise have to be resolved with our own self.For this most

important requisite is to keep trust on ourselves.

> Even if some kind of satndardisation is attempted,gems usage

will be very little.Along with them you need to associate some

Dhatu -metal be it gold,silver or something else.

> A person in problem and in distress would believe in things

which are of his immediate reach,it is undoubtedly prayers and help

of learned persons.Such help is always extended for propogating

knowledge and get recognition.This continues to be the simplest

method for common man and certainly not gems.

> krishnan

>

>

>

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Dear Jiger and All,

 

Richard has written to me privately stating that the rectified time

of his birth (13:52) has been scraped after citing his original birth

certificate with the time of 13:06. Anyone interested in commenting

on this chart??

 

Richard Shaw Brown

Apr 26 1947 (13:06)

St Petersburg, Florida

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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"jiger shah" <jigershah

"jyotish-vidya" <jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:07 AM

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STANDARDIZATION

 

 

dear sir

 

harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

 

works every time lesser you eat on saturday

 

lesser will be the influence of saturn

 

better yet message of sesame seed oil

 

not hanuman but worship to lord shankar will

 

be very helpful for saturn

 

i suggest copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

 

magnet is a form of iron aswell

 

regs jiger

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Dear Neena,

 

You're absolutely correct! Caution most definitely must be the rule

of thumb when prescribing for Saturn :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:15 AM

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-

 

dear Wendy,

 

Just adding to the gem therapy, especially the use of Sapphire.

 

In India the asrologers are very cautious in the prescription of

this gem.

If it is of very good quality it has extremely potent powers to

alter the fortunes of an individual for better or for worse.

 

In fact it is often advised that the gem be tested before adopted

for use. Pandits say that it should be wrapped in a piece of black

cloth and kept under the pillow at night. If it does not suit a

person, he /she gets nightmarish dreams. In that case it should not

be worn.

 

But a Sapphire, if it suits one can take one to the heights of

acheivements.

 

Personally I do not have any experience of this.

 

However, gems do help if used in the right way.

 

Regards,

 

neena

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Dear Jiger,

 

Can you tell me why you say 'Not lord Hanuman'? To the best of my

knowledge Hanuman worship (Puja) has always been advised as a remedy

to ward off the negative effects of Saturn. As said in earlier post,

legend has it that lord Hanuman extracted the promise from Saturn

that he would not harm any of Hanuman's devotees.

 

Also, as I'm sure you're aware, the seven facet rudraksha,

recommended to appease/please Saturn, is lorded by Hanumanji...is

this not so?

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"jiger shah" <jigershah

"jyotish-vidya" <jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:07 AM

Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

STANDARDIZATION

 

 

dear sir

 

harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

 

works every time lesser you eat on saturday

 

lesser will be the influence of saturn

 

better yet message of sesame seed oil

 

not hanuman but worship to lord shankar will

 

be very helpful for saturn

 

i suggest copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

 

magnet is a form of iron aswell

 

regs jiger

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Dear Wendyji and Jiger,

 

As per hindu mythology Hanuman is nothing but an incarnation of lord

Shiva.

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Jiger,

>

> Can you tell me why you say 'Not lord Hanuman'? To the best of my

> knowledge Hanuman worship (Puja) has always been advised as a

remedy

> to ward off the negative effects of Saturn. As said in earlier

post,

> legend has it that lord Hanuman extracted the promise from Saturn

> that he would not harm any of Hanuman's devotees.

>

> Also, as I'm sure you're aware, the seven facet rudraksha,

> recommended to appease/please Saturn, is lorded by Hanumanji...is

> this not so?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "jiger shah" <jigershah

> "jyotish-vidya" <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:07 AM

> Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

> STANDARDIZATION

>

>

> dear sir

>

> harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

>

> works every time lesser you eat on saturday

>

> lesser will be the influence of saturn

>

> better yet message of sesame seed oil

>

> not hanuman but worship to lord shankar will

>

> be very helpful for saturn

>

> i suggest copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

>

> magnet is a form of iron aswell

>

> regs jiger

>

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Dear Nilesh and All,

 

The following link has a lot of information about Hanuman.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/hanuman

 

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Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:14 PM

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Dear Wendyji and Jiger,

 

As per hindu mythology Hanuman is nothing but an incarnation of lord

Shiva.

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

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Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

Worship of Hanuman is also made on tues days also to ward off evil effects of

mangal.

hanuman ji in epics is a messenger and better known as Ram Sevak.In tretayug

during the time of Lord Ram,Lakshman,brother of Sri Ram and Sri Hanuman seved

Sri Ram and continued to be worshipped along with Sri Ram.

krishnan

 

Nilesh Joshi <niljoshi27 wrote:

Dear Wendyji and Jiger,

 

As per hindu mythology Hanuman is nothing but an incarnation of lord

Shiva.

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Jiger,

>

> Can you tell me why you say 'Not lord Hanuman'? To the best of my

> knowledge Hanuman worship (Puja) has always been advised as a

remedy

> to ward off the negative effects of Saturn. As said in earlier

post,

> legend has it that lord Hanuman extracted the promise from Saturn

> that he would not harm any of Hanuman's devotees.

>

> Also, as I'm sure you're aware, the seven facet rudraksha,

> recommended to appease/please Saturn, is lorded by Hanumanji...is

> this not so?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "jiger shah" <jigershah

> "jyotish-vidya" <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:07 AM

> Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

> STANDARDIZATION

>

>

> dear sir

>

> harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

>

> works every time lesser you eat on saturday

>

> lesser will be the influence of saturn

>

> better yet message of sesame seed oil

>

> not hanuman but worship to lord shankar will

>

> be very helpful for saturn

>

> i suggest copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

>

> magnet is a form of iron aswell

>

> regs jiger

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishnan,

 

//Worship of Hanuman is also made on tues days also to ward off evil

effects of mangal.//

 

Yes indeed I do recall having read that (somewhere/sometime?). I do

have a beautiful (large) poster of Hanuman somewhere (it might be in

a frame behind another picture I think)...I must try to find it.

 

It was given to me back in 1991 by an Indian couple who were in

Australia as the course directors (Maharishi TM Siddhi Course). I was

struggling through Saturn dasa and not having an easy time of

it...put my neck out on the first day whilst doing yoga asanas and

the very next day I got the worst flu I'd ever had...but somehow I

struggled through the course, experiencing some beautiful spiritual

moments along the way.

 

The woman (I can't recall her name now) knocked on my door one night

and gave me the poster. It was then I first learnt of Hanuman's

ability to alleviate the difficulties associated with Saturn.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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"vattem krishnan" <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:53 PM

Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

STANDARDIZATION

 

 

Dear Mrs Wendy ji,

Worship of Hanuman is also made on tues days also to ward off evil

effects of mangal.

hanuman ji in epics is a messenger and better known as Ram Sevak.In

tretayug during the time of Lord Ram,Lakshman,brother of Sri Ram and

Sri Hanuman seved Sri Ram and continued to be worshipped along with

Sri Ram.

krishnan

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dear nilesh not exactly shiva him self his 11th rudra

 

 

>"Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27

>jyotish-vidya

>jyotish-vidya

> Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

>STANDARDIZATION

>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:14:55 -0000

>

>

>

>

>

>Dear Wendyji and Jiger,

>

>

>

>As per hindu mythology Hanuman is nothing but an incarnation of lord

>

>Shiva.

>

>

>

>Best Regards

>

>

>

>Nilesh

>

>

>

>

>

>jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

>

>wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Jiger,

>

> >

>

> > Can you tell me why you say 'Not lord Hanuman'? To the best of my

>

> > knowledge Hanuman worship (Puja) has always been advised as a

>

>remedy

>

> > to ward off the negative effects of Saturn. As said in earlier

>

>post,

>

> > legend has it that lord Hanuman extracted the promise from Saturn

>

> > that he would not harm any of Hanuman's devotees.

>

> >

>

> > Also, as I'm sure you're aware, the seven facet rudraksha,

>

> > recommended to appease/please Saturn, is lorded by Hanumanji...is

>

> > this not so?

>

> >

>

> > Best Wishes,

>

> > Mrs. Wendy

>

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

>

> > ______________________________

>

> >

>

> > -

>

> > "jiger shah" <jigershah

>

> > "jyotish-vidya" <jyotish-vidya>

>

> > Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:07 AM

>

> > Re: Re: Planetary Gemology: REQUEST FOR

>

> > STANDARDIZATION

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > dear sir

>

> >

>

> > harmful planets can be pacified by fasting

>

> >

>

> > works every time  lesser you eat on saturday

>

> >

>

> > lesser will be the influence of saturn

>

> >

>

> > better yet message of sesame seed oil

>

> >

>

> > not hanuman  but worship to lord shankar will

>

> >

>

> > be very helpful for saturn

>

> >

>

> > i suggest  copper ring or copper magnetic bracelet

>

> >

>

> > magnet is a form of iron  aswell

>

> >

>

> > regs jiger

>

> >

>

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>  Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web.

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> jyotish-vidya

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