Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 > > Dearest Wendy, Dear Uttara > > no offence meant. Please forgive. > You know I respect and feel for you, Wendy. Maybe this discussion > triggered such a strong response from me, because while working > professionally on similar cases, discussing somebody's "mental" > problems openly in such a big forum, would be totally out of the > question in this country. At least the name would have been changed. > This precaution is vital as here it would cost you job, respect, > reputation, in short it could ruin your life, if matters like that > would come out in the open. > > Sorry, sometimes still my temper flares up. > > The subject in itself is really exciting of course and one of my > favourite ones. Here is the chart of a "real" schizophrenic, which is > really interesting: lady born June 14, 1973, 08.00 hrs. , Crawley, > England. It took years for doctors to find the right medication for > her and she suffered like hell trying to kill herself more than once, > but now she can cope fairly well with her life. She still hears > voices, but has been able to integrate them. > > Best wishes > Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Christine, I think the very best thing is to put this behind us now. I had a nice mail from Das a little while ago and, whilst he has no objection to the discussion of his chart, he was naturally concerned that the focus had turned to illicit drugs...this is understandable. Christine, whilst I understand the point of view from a professional therapist position, you must agree that discussing charts is what astrologers do - they discuss charts for the purpose of understanding. Das knew of this and didn't object. We are not therapists and Das is not a patient who's confidentiality has been compromised. But please, please, please let's leave the matter to rest now. The more we speak of this the more it's blown out of all proportion, don't you agree? As I've already informed some (privately), I was awakened early hours this morning with the news that my twin Marlene is in intensive care and not expected to live. I spoke to the Doctor earlier on and he told me if I wanted to see her I should come now - unfortunately such a long trip would be too much of a strain on my own heart and I couldn't undertake it, I'm afraid. Marlene is in an induced coma, her major organs (kidneys etc) are shutting down from a massive infection, and she's had another heart attack. So it's not looking good. I'm rather stunned and confused at the moment, as much from lack of sleep as anything else. I will go and rest soon with absolute trust that All is in the hands of the Divine... I do know surely that once the initial shock has passed I'll rejoice at her final awakening from this life of struggle and hardship and will feel closer to her in spirit than ever before. The separation that has been imposed on us in life will be gone...no more barriers! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "christiane cameron" <ccameron <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:59 AM apology > Dearest Wendy, Dear Uttara > > no offence meant. Please forgive. > You know I respect and feel for you, Wendy. Maybe this discussion > triggered such a strong response from me, because while working > professionally on similar cases, discussing somebody's "mental" > problems openly in such a big forum, would be totally out of the > question in this country. At least the name would have been > changed. > This precaution is vital as here it would cost you job, respect, > reputation, in short it could ruin your life, if matters like that > would come out in the open. > > Sorry, sometimes still my temper flares up. > > The subject in itself is really exciting of course and one of my > favourite ones. Here is the chart of a "real" schizophrenic, which > is > really interesting: lady born June 14, 1973, 08.00 hrs. , Crawley, > England. It took years for doctors to find the right medication > for > her and she suffered like hell trying to kill herself more than > once, > but now she can cope fairly well with her life. She still hears > voices, but has been able to integrate them. > > Best wishes > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Wendy, My deepest thoughts and prayers for you and your Twin sister May God watch over her in his loving care as she eases into rest May the Lord's love and kindness find you the straight and console of love in your despair and grief. As Always, Uttara. Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Christine, I think the very best thing is to put this behind us now. I had a nice mail from Das a little while ago and, whilst he has no objection to the discussion of his chart, he was naturally concerned that the focus had turned to illicit drugs...this is understandable. Christine, whilst I understand the point of view from a professional therapist position, you must agree that discussing charts is what astrologers do - they discuss charts for the purpose of understanding. Das knew of this and didn't object. We are not therapists and Das is not a patient who's confidentiality has been compromised. But please, please, please let's leave the matter to rest now. The more we speak of this the more it's blown out of all proportion, don't you agree? As I've already informed some (privately), I was awakened early hours this morning with the news that my twin Marlene is in intensive care and not expected to live. I spoke to the Doctor earlier on and he told me if I wanted to see her I should come now - unfortunately such a long trip would be too much of a strain on my own heart and I couldn't undertake it, I'm afraid. Marlene is in an induced coma, her major organs (kidneys etc) are shutting down from a massive infection, and she's had another heart attack. So it's not looking good. I'm rather stunned and confused at the moment, as much from lack of sleep as anything else. I will go and rest soon with absolute trust that All is in the hands of the Divine... I do know surely that once the initial shock has passed I'll rejoice at her final awakening from this life of struggle and hardship and will feel closer to her in spirit than ever before. The separation that has been imposed on us in life will be gone...no more barriers! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "christiane cameron" <ccameron <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:59 AM apology > Dearest Wendy, Dear Uttara > > no offence meant. Please forgive. > You know I respect and feel for you, Wendy. Maybe this discussion > triggered such a strong response from me, because while working > professionally on similar cases, discussing somebody's "mental" > problems openly in such a big forum, would be totally out of the > question in this country. At least the name would have been > changed. > This precaution is vital as here it would cost you job, respect, > reputation, in short it could ruin your life, if matters like that > would come out in the open. > > Sorry, sometimes still my temper flares up. > > The subject in itself is really exciting of course and one of my > favourite ones. Here is the chart of a "real" schizophrenic, which > is > really interesting: lady born June 14, 1973, 08.00 hrs. , Crawley, > England. It took years for doctors to find the right medication > for > her and she suffered like hell trying to kill herself more than > once, > but now she can cope fairly well with her life. She still hears > voices, but has been able to integrate them. > > Best wishes > Chris Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us......As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear Wendy, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your sister. May God give your sister easy passage and open his welcoming arms to her, if her time as come. Wendy, you are in my heart and prayers. And no more on the das-discussion. Again Wendy, I didn't mean to cause you pain of discomfort. Even though we have not met physically, I have always felt somewhat close to you. For me personally this has been a good lesson. Sometimes we believe that we have left behind certain character trades like rashness of words or action, but then God steps in and teaches us a lesson in humility. You are right, please forgive me. With Love Christina On Mar 2, 2006, at 03:15, Uttara wrote: > Wendy, > > My deepest thoughts and prayers for you and your Twin sister > > May God watch over her in his loving care as she eases into rest > > May the Lord's love and kindness find you the straight and console > of love in your despair and grief. > > As Always, > > Uttara. > > Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Christine, > > I think the very best thing is to put this behind us now. I had a > nice mail from Das a little while ago and, whilst he has no objection > to the discussion of his chart, he was naturally concerned that the > focus had turned to illicit drugs...this is understandable. > > Christine, whilst I understand the point of view from a professional > therapist position, you must agree that discussing charts is what > astrologers do - they discuss charts for the purpose of > understanding. Das knew of this and didn't object. We are not > therapists and Das is not a patient who's confidentiality has been > compromised. But please, please, please let's leave the matter to > rest now. The more we speak of this the more it's blown out of all > proportion, don't you agree? > > As I've already informed some (privately), I was awakened early hours > this morning with the news that my twin Marlene is in intensive care > and not expected to live. I spoke to the Doctor earlier on and he > told me if I wanted to see her I should come now - unfortunately such > a long trip would be too much of a strain on my own heart and I > couldn't undertake it, I'm afraid. Marlene is in an induced coma, her > major organs (kidneys etc) are shutting down from a massive > infection, and she's had another heart attack. So it's not looking > good. > > I'm rather stunned and confused at the moment, as much from lack of > sleep as anything else. I will go and rest soon with absolute trust > that All is in the hands of the Divine... > > I do know surely that once the initial shock has passed I'll rejoice > at her final awakening from this life of struggle and hardship and > will feel closer to her in spirit than ever before. The separation > that has been imposed on us in life will be gone...no more barriers! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "christiane cameron" <ccameron > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:59 AM > apology > >> Dearest Wendy, Dear Uttara >> >> no offence meant. Please forgive. >> You know I respect and feel for you, Wendy. Maybe this discussion >> triggered such a strong response from me, because while working >> professionally on similar cases, discussing somebody's "mental" >> problems openly in such a big forum, would be totally out of the >> question in this country. At least the name would have been >> changed. >> This precaution is vital as here it would cost you job, respect, >> reputation, in short it could ruin your life, if matters like that >> would come out in the open. >> >> Sorry, sometimes still my temper flares up. >> >> The subject in itself is really exciting of course and one of my >> favourite ones. Here is the chart of a "real" schizophrenic, which >> is >> really interesting: lady born June 14, 1973, 08.00 hrs. , Crawley, >> England. It took years for doctors to find the right medication >> for >> her and she suffered like hell trying to kill herself more than >> once, >> but now she can cope fairly well with her life. She still hears >> voices, but has been able to integrate them. >> >> Best wishes >> Chris > > > > > > Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart > Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest > fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our > darkness, that most frightens us......As we let our own light shine, > we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we > are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates > others." from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson > > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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