Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Respected Mrs. Wendy, I fully agree with you. Thanks for the elaborate effort. Warms Regards, Vijay Goel. ------------------ - PS: In reference to the Sunapha, Anapha and Durudhura yogas, R. Santhanam clarifies, in his 'notes' (Saravali of Kalyana Varma), the importance of planets causing these yogas being without affliction. He makes it quite clear when he says that Anapha and Sunapha caused by a debilitated planet will only yield adverse results. He gives praise however to the participation of exalted planets. He makes special mention (Anapha yoga) of exalted Venus; Jupiter in Cancer, and Mercury in Virgo with Moon in Libra... Common-sense is based on the knowledge we've gained. How can we apply our common-sense to jyotish if we have little (or no) knowledge of it. How can we apply our common-sense to the rules of nuclear physics if we have no knowledge of these rules?? Now, opinions are a different matter entirely...anyone can have an opinion! "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish <jyotish-vidya> Friday, January 06, 2006 4:36 PM Re: A lesson in common sense Dear Vijay, You Wrote: //I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather than common sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it. But mars and moon combination gives logical mind.// Common-sense dictates that Saturn's lordship will be the decisive factor - one size definitely does not fit all! The favourable aspect between Moon and Mars bestows excellent physical and emotional strength - an unfavourable aspect makes one moody and quarrelsome. //All the unblemished planets attribute to comman sense .// This is true (only) in that unblemished planets contribute to the horoscope as a whole. However their relationship with Moon is an important consideration. //Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second attribute to comman-sense.// Certainly Moon isolated in a chart is not good for one's emotional well-being. However, common-sense must be exercised when ascertaining the results due to this (or any) yoga. Take a little time to think of the (possible) results of Moon in Leo, flanked by debilitated Mars in Cancer and debilitated Venus in Virgo...all yogas need careful scrutiny! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Dear Rui I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather than common sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it. But mars and moon combination gives logical mind. All the unblemished planets attribute to common sense . A good 2nd house and lord, 5h/L and 10h/L attribute to common sense in general and specifically to the area these planets manifest. Strong lagna itself make the native pro-active ,the main attribute to common-sense. Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second attribute to common-sense. All success stories begins with common-sense ,Natal chart as a whole is involved with this word. I think so. Best Wishes Vijay Goel. - "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:50 PM Re: A lesson in common sense > Dear Rui, > > Yes, you're correct! Aspects on Moon will certainly influence the > qualities of the mind, for better or worse...this goes without > saying, doesn't it?. > > I must switch off and go to bed now...getting tired and cranky, I'm > afraid. It's been quite hot here today and that's exhausting... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "RPM" <rupamede > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:54 AM > Re: A lesson in common sense > > > Mrs Wendy, > I believe I have expressed myself incompletely. I was referring to > a possible aspect or conjunction of Saturn on the Moon which in my > opinion might enhance the common sense, but as I have also said if > this Saturn is weak and a functional malefic then its aspect on the > Moon would probably be bad for the mind of that person and would not > help her/him with common sense. > Regards, Rui Dear Mrs Wendy That is indeed a very interesting query. One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a person's mind to have common sense, but as you said what if Saturn is a very weak functional malefic in the chart? Would that Saturn still be good for common sense? I have learnt with you and others in this maling list that these things cannot be down to one aspect only. In my opinion, common sense should be judged from the entire chart having in consideration the many relationships between planets and timing of events because as everything in life nothing is forever and one can have a sound common sense during one period of his/her life and then suddenly all that common sense is gone and the opposite is also true - I have seen this happen to many people as they get older. Best wishes, Rui. Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear All, Someone has asked me privately, "what planet governs common-sense". He related to me that many astrologers(?) attempted to answer this question and no-one actually had a definitive answer...it seems each astrologer ascribed this function to a different planet. I'm continually amazed by the poor grasp of the basics amongst today's astrologers. Knowledge of the basics is the first step! And, until that's understood completely, no one is ready for the next step... Two planets (only) are associated with mind: Moon governs common-sense whilst logic is governed by Mercury. But are they not the same thing my querist asked...the answer is NO! Common-sense is based on stored memory (Moon) whilst logic, a function of the intellect (Mercury), is what enables one to investigate, find answers, and learn new things. Once learned, these are then stored in the mind as memory. Common-sense is the simple process of accessing these stored memories and applying them to a given situation. It's said that Mercury accesses all the grahas in order to find the answers he's looking for. It's through the grace of Jupiter that Mercury can access divine knowledge; it's through the grace of Saturn that Mercury learns wisdom; it's through the grace of Venus that Mercury learns the qualities of love and beauty... But what will he learn from these planets if they're weak or afflicted. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thank you very much for your clear explanation. I was looking at your chart (you had posted it a little while back) because I was sure the indications of common sense must be strong. And I didn't get very far because I wasn't sure how to read the Mars in 5th? I knew Mars is a natural malefic & read on the jyotish vidya website that it remains malefic for Capricorn ascendants. However, Mars would not be considered "afflicted" in this chart as it is not aspected by any malefics, right? A lot of the significations listed for Mars certainly seem to characterize 5th house matters (like your son David) & how you use your intellect: Strength, Independence, initiative, Determination, Force of character, impatience, zeal, enthusiasm, passion, pioneering, adventure, frankness, resourcefulness, management, research, logic, difference of opinion Thanks to your explanation I understand 5th Lord & Moon's dispositor Venus's condition. But the planetary karakas of mind are definetly well placed in your chart! I was also checking to see indication of strong 3rd house because of your clarity of written communication. And I see 3rd lord Jupiter is exalted and aspects 3rd house, & natural karaka Mercury is in his own house (9th) & aspects 3rd as well. 3rd also gets aspect from lagna lord Saturn in 6th house/gemini who is strong per shadbala. I'm not sure how to read that aspect. >From my limited understanding it certainly looks like the 3rd house is in exellent shape as I had expected. Are other 3rd house indications there for you -- do you play a musical instrument? I would think maybe Venus would have to be in better shape for that to be a definite? Interestingly, the 3rd house in Navamsa is in similar shape -- 3rd lord Mars is his own sign and aspecting 3rd, while Mercury is again aspecting 3rd from 9th. Mercury also receives aspect from Jupiter. However, I'm not sure Navamsa is analyzed in the same way D-1 is? Any comments from the members of the list would be most appreciated. Also, Wendy, I am curious to know if you have experienced an illness with kidneys (I ask due to Mars (malefic) in 5th (indicates kidney) and afflicted Venus (indicates kidney & is 5th lord)? I want to say again that the Jyotish Vidya website is such a treasure - thank you again, Wendy. Take it easy, Sean jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Dear Sean, > > Both 4th and 5th are associated with mind. 4th primarily the > emotions (emotional mind) whilst 5th governs intelligence. No doubt, > even if the significators for mind/intellect (and the karakas for > these houses MO/JU) are strong, a native can experience some > difficulties (during the appropriate periods) if these houses suffer > any affliction. I personally am well aware of this with 5th lord > (and 4th lord's dispositor) Venus conjunct 8th lord Sun (his bitter > enemy) in 8th. This Venus is also Moon's dispositor. Without any > doubt, periods of Venus can bring a lot of mental > anguish...unreasonable paranoia would probably be the most fitting > description. Venus PD began Dec 30 and continues until Jun 3... I > think it's been pretty evident that things aren't as they should be. > > Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday and I can begin the Venus mantra - > which should restore some sanity. This is the great blessing of > jyotish; that we can do something to lessen the impact of a > difficult period. > > As Rui said earlier, common-sense is not always there (all of the > time). This is due to the fluctuating nature (waxing/waning) of the > Moon. And, of course, we're all familiar with the effect of > Sade-Sati when Moon suffers from the depressive influence of Saturn. > This effect too is variable depending on Saturn's lordship etc.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:33 AM > Re: A lesson in common sense > > > Now that makes sense! > > So, regarding house significations, the 5th would signify common > sense as this house signifies memory. And actually this is the only > house that signifies mind (both memory & intellect). This is so per > Parashara, correct? > > Take it easy, > Sean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dear Sean, Yes, you're on the right track...had major kidney surgery last year. Actually the surgeon's knife (Mars, trishadaya lord) has been a strong contributor to ongoing medical problems...damaging arteries (Sun), causing more damage to kidney (Venus), and so forth. Unfortunately, due to my past occupation as a nurse (lagnesh Sani in 6th), I've tended to accept the opinion of the medical profession without question...to my detriment! We were taught never to question the Doctor's instruction. Unnecessary hysterectomy when I was still young, numerous fistulectomy's which have caused untold damage, disastrous kidney operation, torturous ablation on the heart (cauterizing/destroying cells in the heart whilst I was wide awake and screaming). I later learned that those with medical insurance have a general anaesthetic for this procedure. Needless to say I'm no longer a fan of the medical profession...rather late now though after the damage is done. But, I suppose, I shouldn't blame the medical profession for what is (essentially) my own karma. In a strange way there has been some benefit, resulting in a subtle shift in consciousness (awareness/acceptance). You're also on the right track in regards to Mars influence in 5th house itself...I'm often called to the (intellectual) battlefield and have little patience with adversaries. But it's all the play of karma, and not to be taken too seriously :-) Certainly compassion is imbued in one's nature with Jupiter's aspect on lagna (and own 3rd house of intentions) denoting that, although anger may be quick to rise, compassion is never far behind.... Quick to anger, quick to forgive. I must say I'm not all that comfortable having my chart discussed so openly and I can certainly understand those who don't wish to reveal their chart....but, for the sake of discussion, I'll grin and bear it :-) Just tread lightly, being mindful of Mars in 5th...just kidding! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:57 PM Re: A lesson in common sense Dear Wendy, Thank you very much for your clear explanation. I was looking at your chart (you had posted it a little while back) because I was sure the indications of common sense must be strong. And I didn't get very far because I wasn't sure how to read the Mars in 5th? I knew Mars is a natural malefic & read on the jyotish vidya website that it remains malefic for Capricorn ascendants. However, Mars would not be considered "afflicted" in this chart as it is not aspected by any malefics, right? A lot of the significations listed for Mars certainly seem to characterize 5th house matters (like your son David) & how you use your intellect: Strength, Independence, initiative, Determination, Force of character, impatience, zeal, enthusiasm, passion, pioneering, adventure, frankness, resourcefulness, management, research, logic, difference of opinion Thanks to your explanation I understand 5th Lord & Moon's dispositor Venus's condition. But the planetary karakas of mind are definetly well placed in your chart! I was also checking to see indication of strong 3rd house because of your clarity of written communication. And I see 3rd lord Jupiter is exalted and aspects 3rd house, & natural karaka Mercury is in his own house (9th) & aspects 3rd as well. 3rd also gets aspect from lagna lord Saturn in 6th house/gemini who is strong per shadbala. I'm not sure how to read that aspect. >From my limited understanding it certainly looks like the 3rd house is in exellent shape as I had expected. Are other 3rd house indications there for you -- do you play a musical instrument? I would think maybe Venus would have to be in better shape for that to be a definite? Interestingly, the 3rd house in Navamsa is in similar shape -- 3rd lord Mars is his own sign and aspecting 3rd, while Mercury is again aspecting 3rd from 9th. Mercury also receives aspect from Jupiter. However, I'm not sure Navamsa is analyzed in the same way D-1 is? Any comments from the members of the list would be most appreciated. Also, Wendy, I am curious to know if you have experienced an illness with kidneys (I ask due to Mars (malefic) in 5th (indicates kidney) and afflicted Venus (indicates kidney & is 5th lord)? I want to say again that the Jyotish Vidya website is such a treasure - thank you again, Wendy. Take it easy, Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dear Wendy, Well, I acutally couldn't bear to have you grin and bear it - that would not be right at all. Therefor, let us not continue discussing your chart. I sincerely appologize and ceratinly now I see that it would have been proper etiquette to ask first. Perhaps this was my lesson in common sense If I was on the right track then it is a testament to the "basics" of Jyotish as everything I wrote was based on the information available on the Jyotish Vidya website and the knowledge shared here. I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will be a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in Australia later this year just in case you may be interested. Again, I appologize -- I will certainly ask permission before viewing & discussing openly anybody's birth chart from now on. And thank you for your candor and for sharing with us what you have for the sake of learning. There is no reason for us to have to grin and bear it -- certainly, there are plenty of people asking to have there chart analysed so we could stick to those. Sincerely, Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dear Sean, As per your remarks, I assume you're still very much a learner and, as such, I'm quite impressed with how well you're grasping the basic principles - well done, Sean! Regarding my own chart; It has been discussed at length many times over the years and (usually) I don't mind...it's pretty much public property now. However, due to the recent exchange with a certain member, I was feeling a little uneasy as experience has taught me that people with an axe to grind can use a chart in a (horribly) negative way to vent their ill-feelings...ever mindful of Mars in 5th and this current Venus PD, I was feeling uneasy about the possibility of things turning nasty...this is never nice for the group to have to endure. You Wrote: //I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will be a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in Australia later this year just in case you may be interested.// Perhaps, one day, you might like to contribute an article to JyotishVidya.com on the basic principles of Ayurveda, for the benefit of all...not to put you under any pressure at all, but it would be well received if you did so :-) As you've taken the time to study and offer your observations, I will comment a little more on what you said previously... You Said: //I was also checking to see indication of strong 3rd house because of your clarity of written communication. And I see 3rd lord Jupiter is exalted and aspects 3rd house, & natural karaka Mercury is in his own house (9th) & aspects 3rd as well.// As lord of 12th, his moolatrikona sign, time spent in foreign land (JU/RA dasa) was extremely prosperous (auspicious). Many servants, mantra initiation (3rd lordship), great spiritual blessings etc.. BTW natural karaka for communication (Mercury) is approaching highest degree of exaltation which, no doubt, accounts for the extensive writing/communication during this Mercury dasa. //3rd also gets aspect from lagna lord Saturn in 6th house/gemini who is strong per shadbala. I'm not sure how to read that aspect.// Lagnesh Sani in Gemini suggests one born as a twin - his aspect on 3rd has an influence on younger sibling (amongst other things). //From my limited understanding it certainly looks like the 3rd house is in exellent shape as I had expected. Are other 3rd house indications there for you -- do you play a musical instrument? I would think maybe Venus would have to be in better shape for that to be a definite?// Once again your observation is right on the mark, re Venus; I did learn the piano (and other instrument) in my childhood but it never amounted to anything. //Interestingly, the 3rd house in Navamsa is in similar shape -- 3rd lord Mars is his own sign and aspecting 3rd, while Mercury is again aspecting 3rd from 9th. Mercury also receives aspect from Jupiter. However, I'm not sure Navamsa is analyzed in the same way D-1 is?// People have different ways of reading the divisional charts. However, I was taught to read them thus; 3rd lord, debilitated in navamsha, is conjunct Rahu...this conjunction can be beneficial as Jupiter, owning kendra (navamsha) occupies a trikona. Neecha is softened with Saturn's exaltation (in navamsha). //I want to say again that the Jyotish Vidya website is such a treasure - thank you again, Wendy.// Good! it's sole reason for 'being' is to benefit others. If this has been achieved my efforts have not been in vain :-) Lastly Sean, I do appreciate your efforts and I'm quite sure you'll be an excellent astrologer :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:10 AM Re: A lesson in common sense Dear Wendy, Well, I acutally couldn't bear to have you grin and bear it - that would not be right at all. Therefor, let us not continue discussing your chart. I sincerely appologize and ceratinly now I see that it would have been proper etiquette to ask first. Perhaps this was my lesson in common sense If I was on the right track then it is a testament to the "basics" of Jyotish as everything I wrote was based on the information available on the Jyotish Vidya website and the knowledge shared here. I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will be a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in Australia later this year just in case you may be interested. Again, I appologize -- I will certainly ask permission before viewing & discussing openly anybody's birth chart from now on. And thank you for your candor and for sharing with us what you have for the sake of learning. There is no reason for us to have to grin and bear it -- certainly, there are plenty of people asking to have there chart analysed so we could stick to those. Sincerely, Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Dear Wendy, Yes, I am very much a beginner and most often when I have tried study my chart or any other chart, I have either gotten frustrated or overwhelmed But this exchange has been encouraging and has led me to realize that I need to stick to the basics for awhile because my tendency has been to read about all the different methods and try to use them with out really taking the time to digest the fundamentals first. I'd be happy to write an article on Ayurveda for the Jyotish Vidya website at some point. I'm not sure when it will be, but I certainly will not forget about it. Perhaps in the spring (spring for me in the USA -- April or June) you'll hear from me regarding this! Thank you again for your encouragement! Sean jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Dear Sean, > > As per your remarks, I assume you're still very much a learner and, > as such, I'm quite impressed with how well you're grasping the basic > principles - well done, Sean! > > Regarding my own chart; It has been discussed at length many times > over the years and (usually) I don't mind...it's pretty much public > property now. However, due to the recent exchange with a certain > member, I was feeling a little uneasy as experience has taught me > that people with an axe to grind can use a chart in a (horribly) > negative way to vent their ill-feelings...ever mindful of Mars in > 5th and this current Venus PD, I was feeling uneasy about the > possibility of things turning nasty...this is never nice for the > group to have to endure. > > You Wrote: > //I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either > (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of > Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will > be > a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in > Australia later this year just in case you may be interested.// > > Perhaps, one day, you might like to contribute an article to > JyotishVidya.com on the basic principles of Ayurveda, for the > benefit of all...not to put you under any pressure at all, but it > would be well received if you did so :-) > > As you've taken the time to study and offer your observations, I > will comment a little more on what you said previously... > > You Said: > //I was also checking to see indication of strong 3rd house because > of > your clarity of written communication. And I see 3rd lord Jupiter > is exalted and aspects 3rd house, & natural karaka Mercury is in his > own house (9th) & aspects 3rd as well.// > > As lord of 12th, his moolatrikona sign, time spent in foreign land > (JU/RA dasa) was extremely prosperous (auspicious). Many servants, > mantra initiation (3rd lordship), great spiritual blessings etc.. > > BTW natural karaka for communication (Mercury) is approaching > highest degree of exaltation which, no doubt, accounts for the > extensive writing/communication during this Mercury dasa. > > //3rd also gets aspect from lagna lord Saturn in 6th house/gemini > who > is strong per shadbala. I'm not sure how to read that aspect.// > > Lagnesh Sani in Gemini suggests one born as a twin - his aspect on > 3rd has an influence on younger sibling (amongst other things). > > //From my limited understanding it certainly looks like the 3rd > house > is in exellent shape as I had expected. Are other 3rd house > indications there for you -- do you play a musical instrument? I > would think maybe Venus would have to be in better shape for that to > be a definite?// > > Once again your observation is right on the mark, re Venus; I did > learn the piano (and other instrument) in my childhood but it never > amounted to anything. > > //Interestingly, the 3rd house in Navamsa is in similar shape -- 3rd > lord Mars is his own sign and aspecting 3rd, while Mercury is again > aspecting 3rd from 9th. Mercury also receives aspect from Jupiter. > However, I'm not sure Navamsa is analyzed in the same way D-1 is?// > > People have different ways of reading the divisional charts. > However, I was taught to read them thus; 3rd lord, debilitated in > navamsha, is conjunct Rahu...this conjunction can be beneficial as > Jupiter, owning kendra (navamsha) occupies a trikona. Neecha is > softened with Saturn's exaltation (in navamsha). > > //I want to say again that the Jyotish Vidya website is such a > treasure - thank you again, Wendy.// > > Good! it's sole reason for 'being' is to benefit others. If this has > been achieved my efforts have not been in vain :-) > > Lastly Sean, I do appreciate your efforts and I'm quite sure you'll > be an excellent astrologer :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> > <jyotish-vidya> > Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:10 AM > Re: A lesson in common sense > > > Dear Wendy, > > Well, I acutally couldn't bear to have you grin and bear it - that > would not be right at all. Therefor, let us not continue discussing > your chart. I sincerely appologize and ceratinly now I see that it > would have been proper etiquette to ask first. Perhaps this was my > lesson in common sense > > If I was on the right track then it is a testament to the "basics" > of > Jyotish as everything I wrote was based on the information available > on the Jyotish Vidya website and the knowledge shared here. > > I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either > (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of > Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will > be > a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in > Australia later this year just in case you may be interested. > > Again, I appologize -- I will certainly ask permission before > viewing > & discussing openly anybody's birth chart from now on. And thank > you > for your candor and for sharing with us what you have for the sake > of > learning. There is no reason for us to have to grin and bear it -- > certainly, there are plenty of people asking to have there chart > analysed so we could stick to those. > > Sincerely, > Sean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Sean, If I could write as well as you! Thank you for your keen horoscope observations and clarity! Uttara jyotish-vidya, "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > Yes, I am very much a beginner and most often when I have tried study > my chart or any other chart, I have either gotten frustrated or > overwhelmed > > But this exchange has been encouraging and has led me to realize that > I need to stick to the basics for awhile because my tendency has been > to read about all the different methods and try to use them with out > really taking the time to digest the fundamentals first. > > I'd be happy to write an article on Ayurveda for the Jyotish Vidya > website at some point. I'm not sure when it will be, but I certainly > will not forget about it. Perhaps in the spring (spring for me in > the USA -- April or June) you'll hear from me regarding this! > > Thank you again for your encouragement! > Sean > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sean, > > > > As per your remarks, I assume you're still very much a learner and, > > as such, I'm quite impressed with how well you're grasping the > basic > > principles - well done, Sean! > > > > Regarding my own chart; It has been discussed at length many times > > over the years and (usually) I don't mind...it's pretty much public > > property now. However, due to the recent exchange with a certain > > member, I was feeling a little uneasy as experience has taught me > > that people with an axe to grind can use a chart in a (horribly) > > negative way to vent their ill-feelings...ever mindful of Mars in > > 5th and this current Venus PD, I was feeling uneasy about the > > possibility of things turning nasty...this is never nice for the > > group to have to endure. > > > > You Wrote: > > //I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either > > (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of > > Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will > > be > > a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in > > Australia later this year just in case you may be interested.// > > > > Perhaps, one day, you might like to contribute an article to > > JyotishVidya.com on the basic principles of Ayurveda, for the > > benefit of all...not to put you under any pressure at all, but it > > would be well received if you did so :-) > > > > As you've taken the time to study and offer your observations, I > > will comment a little more on what you said previously... > > > > You Said: > > //I was also checking to see indication of strong 3rd house because > > of > > your clarity of written communication. And I see 3rd lord Jupiter > > is exalted and aspects 3rd house, & natural karaka Mercury is in his > > own house (9th) & aspects 3rd as well.// > > > > As lord of 12th, his moolatrikona sign, time spent in foreign land > > (JU/RA dasa) was extremely prosperous (auspicious). Many servants, > > mantra initiation (3rd lordship), great spiritual blessings etc.. > > > > BTW natural karaka for communication (Mercury) is approaching > > highest degree of exaltation which, no doubt, accounts for the > > extensive writing/communication during this Mercury dasa. > > > > //3rd also gets aspect from lagna lord Saturn in 6th house/gemini > > who > > is strong per shadbala. I'm not sure how to read that aspect.// > > > > Lagnesh Sani in Gemini suggests one born as a twin - his aspect on > > 3rd has an influence on younger sibling (amongst other things). > > > > //From my limited understanding it certainly looks like the 3rd > > house > > is in exellent shape as I had expected. Are other 3rd house > > indications there for you -- do you play a musical instrument? I > > would think maybe Venus would have to be in better shape for that to > > be a definite?// > > > > Once again your observation is right on the mark, re Venus; I did > > learn the piano (and other instrument) in my childhood but it never > > amounted to anything. > > > > //Interestingly, the 3rd house in Navamsa is in similar shape -- 3rd > > lord Mars is his own sign and aspecting 3rd, while Mercury is again > > aspecting 3rd from 9th. Mercury also receives aspect from Jupiter. > > However, I'm not sure Navamsa is analyzed in the same way D-1 is?// > > > > People have different ways of reading the divisional charts. > > However, I was taught to read them thus; 3rd lord, debilitated in > > navamsha, is conjunct Rahu...this conjunction can be beneficial as > > Jupiter, owning kendra (navamsha) occupies a trikona. Neecha is > > softened with Saturn's exaltation (in navamsha). > > > > //I want to say again that the Jyotish Vidya website is such a > > treasure - thank you again, Wendy.// > > > > Good! it's sole reason for 'being' is to benefit others. If this > has > > been achieved my efforts have not been in vain :-) > > > > Lastly Sean, I do appreciate your efforts and I'm quite sure you'll > > be an excellent astrologer :-) > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > > - > > "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:10 AM > > Re: A lesson in common sense > > > > > > Dear Wendy, > > > > Well, I acutally couldn't bear to have you grin and bear it - that > > would not be right at all. Therefor, let us not continue discussing > > your chart. I sincerely appologize and ceratinly now I see that it > > would have been proper etiquette to ask first. Perhaps this was my > > lesson in common sense > > > > If I was on the right track then it is a testament to the "basics" > > of > > Jyotish as everything I wrote was based on the information available > > on the Jyotish Vidya website and the knowledge shared here. > > > > I am not at all thrilled with the modern medical model either > > (though, certainly it has it's positive aspects). I am a student of > > Ayurveda and actually, my teacher, Sri Swamini Mayatitananda, will > > be > > a keynote speaker at an international Ayurveda conference in > > Australia later this year just in case you may be interested. > > > > Again, I appologize -- I will certainly ask permission before > > viewing > > & discussing openly anybody's birth chart from now on. And thank > > you > > for your candor and for sharing with us what you have for the sake > > of > > learning. There is no reason for us to have to grin and bear it - - > > certainly, there are plenty of people asking to have there chart > > analysed so we could stick to those. > > > > Sincerely, > > Sean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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