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Dear All,

 

Someone has asked me privately, "what planet governs common-sense".

He related to me that many astrologers(?) attempted to answer this

question and no-one actually had a definitive answer...it seems each

astrologer ascribed this function to a different planet.

 

I'm continually amazed by the poor grasp of the basics amongst

today's astrologers. Knowledge of the basics is the first step! And,

until that's understood completely, no one is ready for the next

step...

 

Two planets (only) are associated with mind:

Moon governs common-sense whilst logic is governed by Mercury. But

are they not the same thing my querist asked...the answer is NO!

 

Common-sense is based on stored memory (Moon) whilst logic, a

function of the intellect (Mercury), is what enables one to

investigate, find answers, and learn new things. Once learned, these

are then stored in the mind as memory. Common-sense is the simple

process of accessing these stored memories and applying them to a

given situation.

 

It's said that Mercury accesses all the grahas in order to find the

answers he's looking for. It's through the grace of Jupiter that

Mercury can access divine knowledge; it's through the grace of

Saturn that Mercury learns wisdom; it's through the grace of Venus

that Mercury learns the qualities of love and beauty...

 

But what will he learn from these planets if they're weak or

afflicted.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Dear Mrs Wendy

 

That is indeed a very interesting query.

 

One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I would say

that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a person's mind to have common

sense, but as you said what if Saturn is a very weak functional malefic in the

chart? Would that Saturn still be good for common sense?

 

I have learnt with you and others in this maling list that these things cannot

be down to one aspect only. In my opinion, common sense should be judged from

the entire chart having in consideration the many relationships between planets

and timing of events because as everything in life nothing is forever and one

can have a sound common sense during one period of his/her life and then

suddenly all that common sense is gone and the opposite is also true - I have

seen this happen to many people as they get older.

 

Best wishes, Rui.

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear All,

 

Someone has asked me privately, "what planet governs common-sense".

He related to me that many astrologers(?) attempted to answer this

question and no-one actually had a definitive answer...it seems each

astrologer ascribed this function to a different planet.

 

I'm continually amazed by the poor grasp of the basics amongst

today's astrologers. Knowledge of the basics is the first step! And,

until that's understood completely, no one is ready for the next

step...

 

Two planets (only) are associated with mind:

Moon governs common-sense whilst logic is governed by Mercury. But

are they not the same thing my querist asked...the answer is NO!

 

Common-sense is based on stored memory (Moon) whilst logic, a

function of the intellect (Mercury), is what enables one to

investigate, find answers, and learn new things. Once learned, these

are then stored in the mind as memory. Common-sense is the simple

process of accessing these stored memories and applying them to a

given situation.

 

It's said that Mercury accesses all the grahas in order to find the

answers he's looking for. It's through the grace of Jupiter that

Mercury can access divine knowledge; it's through the grace of

Saturn that Mercury learns wisdom; it's through the grace of Venus

that Mercury learns the qualities of love and beauty...

 

But what will he learn from these planets if they're weak or

afflicted.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Rui--

 

You Wrote:

*One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I

would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a

person's mind to have common sense, but as you said what if Saturn

is a very weak functional malefic in the chart? Would that Saturn

still be good for common sense?*

 

I have not put forward some hypothesis that needs to be debated!

We're taught by the rishis (and myself by Maharishi) that Moon

governs the mind (memory, common-sense etc), and that Mercury

governs the intellect (learning etc). This is not MY idea but the

teaching of the rishis!

 

*in life nothing is forever and one can have a sound common sense

during one period of his/her life and then suddenly all that common

sense is gone and the opposite is also true - I have seen this

happen to many people as they get older.*

 

The physical heart also begins to fail when people get old -are we

then to conclude that the physical heart is not governed by Sun? The

significations of all grahas begin to deteriorate as old age

approaches, this is a natural process. Not only does one's memory

begin to fade but so too does one's libido (Venus); one's energy

(Mars) etc.. Are we then to conclude that the significations of

these planets should then be seen from other planets...

 

I myself am becoming quite weary and really wish people would stop

sending me these private mails...wanting me to discuss their queries

but not wishing to be identified...it gets a bit out of hand, I'm

afraid. So, please members, if you have a query, send it to the list

and not to me personally...please!

 

Thank You,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Rui--

 

You Wrote:

*One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I

would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would "help a

person's mind to have common sense".*

 

Can you not see the contradiction in your statement... "would help

the person's mind have common sense"? Is this not what I've said,

i.e; common-sense is a quality of the mind. So where's your

argument??

 

*but I would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a

person's mind to have common sense*

 

Did I not say that it's through the grace of Saturn the intellect

learns wisdom and that this wisdom, stored in the MIND as memory,

can be drawn upon. Of course wisdom is not always what we learn from

Saturn - sometimes his nature is cruel. A cruel Saturn can give rise

to very cruel leaders etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:59 AM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Rui--

 

You Wrote:

*One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I

would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a

person's mind to have common sense, but as you said what if Saturn

is a very weak functional malefic in the chart? Would that Saturn

still be good for common sense?*

 

I have not put forward some hypothesis that needs to be debated!

We're taught by the rishis (and myself by Maharishi) that Moon

governs the mind (memory, common-sense etc), and that Mercury

governs the intellect (learning etc). This is not MY idea but the

teaching of the rishis!

 

*in life nothing is forever and one can have a sound common sense

during one period of his/her life and then suddenly all that common

sense is gone and the opposite is also true - I have seen this

happen to many people as they get older.*

 

The physical heart also begins to fail when people get old -are we

then to conclude that the physical heart is not governed by Sun? The

significations of all grahas begin to deteriorate as old age

approaches, this is a natural process. Not only does one's memory

begin to fade but so too does one's libido (Venus); one's energy

(Mars) etc.. Are we then to conclude that the significations of

these planets should then be seen from other planets...

 

I myself am becoming quite weary and really wish people would stop

sending me these private mails...wanting me to discuss their queries

but not wishing to be identified...it gets a bit out of hand, I'm

afraid. So, please members, if you have a query, send it to the list

and not to me personally...please!

 

Thank You,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Now that makes sense! :)

 

So, regarding house significations, the 5th would signify common

sense as this house signifies memory. And actually this is the only

house that signifies mind (both memory & intellect). This is so per

Parashara, correct?

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Someone has asked me privately, "what planet governs common-sense".

> He related to me that many astrologers(?) attempted to answer this

> question and no-one actually had a definitive answer...it seems each

> astrologer ascribed this function to a different planet.

>

> I'm continually amazed by the poor grasp of the basics amongst

> today's astrologers. Knowledge of the basics is the first step! And,

> until that's understood completely, no one is ready for the next

> step...

>

> Two planets (only) are associated with mind:

> Moon governs common-sense whilst logic is governed by Mercury. But

> are they not the same thing my querist asked...the answer is NO!

>

> Common-sense is based on stored memory (Moon) whilst logic, a

> function of the intellect (Mercury), is what enables one to

> investigate, find answers, and learn new things. Once learned, these

> are then stored in the mind as memory. Common-sense is the simple

> process of accessing these stored memories and applying them to a

> given situation.

>

> It's said that Mercury accesses all the grahas in order to find the

> answers he's looking for. It's through the grace of Jupiter that

> Mercury can access divine knowledge; it's through the grace of

> Saturn that Mercury learns wisdom; it's through the grace of Venus

> that Mercury learns the qualities of love and beauty...

>

> But what will he learn from these planets if they're weak or

> afflicted.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

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oops- I see that 4th also signifies mind (emotional state of mind),

but common sense is a signification of 5th house, correct?

 

jyotish-vidya, "Sean Patrick Kelly"

<toosean> wrote:

>

> Now that makes sense! :)

>

> So, regarding house significations, the 5th would signify common

> sense as this house signifies memory. And actually this is the

only

> house that signifies mind (both memory & intellect). This is so

per

> Parashara, correct?

>

> Take it easy,

> Sean

>

>

> jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek"

<jyotish@o...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Someone has asked me privately, "what planet governs common-

sense".

> > He related to me that many astrologers(?) attempted to answer this

> > question and no-one actually had a definitive answer...it seems

each

> > astrologer ascribed this function to a different planet.

> >

> > I'm continually amazed by the poor grasp of the basics amongst

> > today's astrologers. Knowledge of the basics is the first step!

And,

> > until that's understood completely, no one is ready for the next

> > step...

> >

> > Two planets (only) are associated with mind:

> > Moon governs common-sense whilst logic is governed by Mercury. But

> > are they not the same thing my querist asked...the answer is NO!

> >

> > Common-sense is based on stored memory (Moon) whilst logic, a

> > function of the intellect (Mercury), is what enables one to

> > investigate, find answers, and learn new things. Once learned,

these

> > are then stored in the mind as memory. Common-sense is the simple

> > process of accessing these stored memories and applying them to a

> > given situation.

> >

> > It's said that Mercury accesses all the grahas in order to find

the

> > answers he's looking for. It's through the grace of Jupiter that

> > Mercury can access divine knowledge; it's through the grace of

> > Saturn that Mercury learns wisdom; it's through the grace of Venus

> > that Mercury learns the qualities of love and beauty...

> >

> > But what will he learn from these planets if they're weak or

> > afflicted.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

> >

>

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Mrs Wendy,

I believe I have expressed myself incompletely. I was referring to a possible

aspect or conjunction of Saturn on the Moon which in my opinion might enhance

the common sense, but as I have also said if this Saturn is weak and a

functional malefic then its aspect on the Moon would probably be bad for the

mind of that person and would not help her/him with common sense.

Regards, Rui.

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Rui--

 

You Wrote:

*One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I

would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would "help a

person's mind to have common sense".*

 

Can you not see the contradiction in your statement... "would help

the person's mind have common sense"? Is this not what I've said,

i.e; common-sense is a quality of the mind. So where's your

argument??

 

*but I would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a

person's mind to have common sense*

 

Did I not say that it's through the grace of Saturn the intellect

learns wisdom and that this wisdom, stored in the MIND as memory,

can be drawn upon. Of course wisdom is not always what we learn from

Saturn - sometimes his nature is cruel. A cruel Saturn can give rise

to very cruel leaders etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:59 AM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Rui--

 

You Wrote:

*One cannot access common sense judging from one planet only, but I

would say that Saturn is perhaps the planet that would help a

person's mind to have common sense, but as you said what if Saturn

is a very weak functional malefic in the chart? Would that Saturn

still be good for common sense?*

 

I have not put forward some hypothesis that needs to be debated!

We're taught by the rishis (and myself by Maharishi) that Moon

governs the mind (memory, common-sense etc), and that Mercury

governs the intellect (learning etc). This is not MY idea but the

teaching of the rishis!

 

*in life nothing is forever and one can have a sound common sense

during one period of his/her life and then suddenly all that common

sense is gone and the opposite is also true - I have seen this

happen to many people as they get older.*

 

The physical heart also begins to fail when people get old -are we

then to conclude that the physical heart is not governed by Sun? The

significations of all grahas begin to deteriorate as old age

approaches, this is a natural process. Not only does one's memory

begin to fade but so too does one's libido (Venus); one's energy

(Mars) etc.. Are we then to conclude that the significations of

these planets should then be seen from other planets...

 

I myself am becoming quite weary and really wish people would stop

sending me these private mails...wanting me to discuss their queries

but not wishing to be identified...it gets a bit out of hand, I'm

afraid. So, please members, if you have a query, send it to the list

and not to me personally...please!

 

Thank You,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Dear Rui,

 

Yes, you're correct! Aspects on Moon will certainly influence the

qualities of the mind, for better or worse...this goes without

saying, doesn't it?.

 

I must switch off and go to bed now...getting tired and cranky, I'm

afraid. It's been quite hot here today and that's exhausting...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:54 AM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Mrs Wendy,

I believe I have expressed myself incompletely. I was referring to

a possible aspect or conjunction of Saturn on the Moon which in my

opinion might enhance the common sense, but as I have also said if

this Saturn is weak and a functional malefic then its aspect on the

Moon would probably be bad for the mind of that person and would not

help her/him with common sense.

Regards, Rui.

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Dear Sean,

 

Both 4th and 5th are associated with mind. 4th primarily the

emotions (emotional mind) whilst 5th governs intelligence. No doubt,

even if the significators for mind/intellect (and the karakas for

these houses MO/JU) are strong, a native can experience some

difficulties (during the appropriate periods) if these houses suffer

any affliction. I personally am well aware of this with 5th lord

(and 4th lord's dispositor) Venus conjunct 8th lord Sun (his bitter

enemy) in 8th. This Venus is also Moon's dispositor. Without any

doubt, periods of Venus can bring a lot of mental

anguish...unreasonable paranoia would probably be the most fitting

description. Venus PD began Dec 30 and continues until Jun 3... I

think it's been pretty evident that things aren't as they should be.

 

Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday and I can begin the Venus mantra -

which should restore some sanity. This is the great blessing of

jyotish; that we can do something to lessen the impact of a

difficult period.

 

As Rui said earlier, common-sense is not always there (all of the

time). This is due to the fluctuating nature (waxing/waning) of the

Moon. And, of course, we're all familiar with the effect of

Sade-Sati when Moon suffers from the depressive influence of Saturn.

This effect too is variable depending on Saturn's lordship etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:33 AM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Now that makes sense! :)

 

So, regarding house significations, the 5th would signify common

sense as this house signifies memory. And actually this is the only

house that signifies mind (both memory & intellect). This is so per

Parashara, correct?

 

Take it easy,

Sean

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Synchronicity - it's amazing!

 

Had it not been for that mail sent to me about the significator for

common-sense I probably wouldn't have taken too much notice of my

own pratyantar dasa and not been reminded that this is definitely

the time for remedial action.

 

As my dear old friend often would say; "God works in mysterious

ways, his wonders to perform"...Indeed :-))

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:38 PM

Re: Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Dear Sean,

 

Both 4th and 5th are associated with mind. 4th primarily the

emotions (emotional mind) whilst 5th governs intelligence. No doubt,

even if the significators for mind/intellect (and the karakas for

these houses MO/JU) are strong, a native can experience some

difficulties (during the appropriate periods) if these houses suffer

any affliction. I personally am well aware of this with 5th lord

(and 4th lord's dispositor) Venus conjunct 8th lord Sun (his bitter

enemy) in 8th. This Venus is also Moon's dispositor. Without any

doubt, periods of Venus can bring a lot of mental

anguish...unreasonable paranoia would probably be the most fitting

description. Venus PD began Dec 30 and continues until Jun 3... I

think it's been pretty evident that things aren't as they should be.

 

Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday and I can begin the Venus mantra -

which should restore some sanity. This is the great blessing of

jyotish; that we can do something to lessen the impact of a

difficult period.

 

As Rui said earlier, common-sense is not always there (all of the

time). This is due to the fluctuating nature (waxing/waning) of the

Moon. And, of course, we're all familiar with the effect of

Sade-Sati when Moon suffers from the depressive influence of Saturn.

This effect too is variable depending on Saturn's lordship etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:33 AM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Now that makes sense! :)

 

So, regarding house significations, the 5th would signify common

sense as this house signifies memory. And actually this is the only

house that signifies mind (both memory & intellect). This is so per

Parashara, correct?

 

Take it easy,

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Dear Rui

 

I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather than common

sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it. But mars and moon

combination gives logical mind.

 

All the unblemished planets attribute to comman sense .

 

A good 2nd house and lord, 5h/L and 10h/L attribute to comman sense in

general and specifically to the area these planets manifest.

 

Strong lagna itself make the native pro-active ,the main attribute to

comman-sense.

 

Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second attribute to

comman-sense.

 

All success stories begins with comman-sense ,Natal chart as a whole is

involved with this word.

 

I think so.

 

Best Wishes

Vijay Goel.

 

 

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"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:50 PM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

> Dear Rui,

>

> Yes, you're correct! Aspects on Moon will certainly influence the

> qualities of the mind, for better or worse...this goes without

> saying, doesn't it?.

>

> I must switch off and go to bed now...getting tired and cranky, I'm

> afraid. It's been quite hot here today and that's exhausting...

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "RPM" <rupamede

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:54 AM

> Re: A lesson in common sense

>

>

> Mrs Wendy,

> I believe I have expressed myself incompletely. I was referring to

> a possible aspect or conjunction of Saturn on the Moon which in my

> opinion might enhance the common sense, but as I have also said if

> this Saturn is weak and a functional malefic then its aspect on the

> Moon would probably be bad for the mind of that person and would not

> help her/him with common sense.

> Regards, Rui.

Links

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vijay,

 

You Wrote:

//I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather than

common sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it.

But mars and moon combination gives logical mind.//

 

Common-sense dictates that Saturn's lordship will be the decisive

factor - one size definitely does not fit all! The favourable aspect

between Moon and Mars bestows excellent physical and emotional

strength - an unfavourable aspect makes one moody and quarrelsome.

 

//All the unblemished planets attribute to comman sense .//

 

This is true (only) in that unblemished planets contribute to the

horoscope as a whole. However their relationship with Moon is an

important consideration.

 

//Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second

attribute to comman-sense.//

 

Certainly Moon isolated in a chart is not good for one's emotional

well-being. However, common-sense must be exercised when

ascertaining the results due to this (or any) yoga. Take a little

time to think of the (possible) results of Moon in Leo, flanked by

debilitated Mars in Cancer and debilitated Venus in Virgo...all

yogas need careful scrutiny!

 

I include here an extract from Ernst Wilhelm's book, "Core Yogas"

 

DISRUPTIONS TO LUNAR YOGAS

There are several conditions that hamper or disrupt the beneficial

effects of these three important Lunar Yogas:

 

1. The effects of Anapha, Sunapha, and Durudhara Yogas are less if

the Moon is weak by having less than 20 virupas of paksha bala.

This occurs when the Moon is within a 60-degree orb of the Sun.

In this event, the Moon has little light. The light of the Moon

indicates the receptive ability of the Moon; when it is less the

Moon gains less from the planets forming the Anapha, Sunapha

or Durudhara Yoga.

 

2. The beneficial effects of these yogas are lessened and some

difficulties crop in when the Moon is in conjunction with Rahu

or Ketu. Rahu or Ketu hamper the natural receptive qualities of

the Moon which then reduces the beneficial influences the

planets in the 2nd or 12th from the Moon may have. Rahu is worse

than Ketu and distorts the pure qualities of the planets in the 2nd

and 12th from the Moon, while Ketu introverts the Moon, which

makes it less receptive and less influenced by external factors. In

fact, Ketu's union with the Moon indicates very strong past life

conditioning that is influenced only very slightly by current

experiences.

 

3. The beneficial effects of these yogas are also lessened and some

difficulties crop in if Rahu is in the 12th from the Moon. Rahu has

a slightly cloudy and disruptive influence on the rasi it has just

passed through, which is the 2nd rasi from Rahu. Rahu is said to

create smoke, this "smoke" hovers over the last rasi Rahu has

crossed. When Rahu is in the 12th from the Moon, therefore, the

qualities of any of the other planets that the Moon is receptive to

are somewhat distorted, but to a much lesser degree than when

the Moon is actually conjunct Rahu.

 

4. If a planet forming one of these yogas is combust, then that

planet no longer purely influences the Moon. A combust planet

becomes angry, and has a sense of failure. These tendencies will

then influence the Moon and the mind will, therefore, be prone

to anger, frustration and weakness relative to the combust planet.

 

5. If a planet forming one of these yogas is debilitated, then that

planet will influence the Moon and, therefore, the mind, with

stress relevant to the difficulties of the debilitated planet. A

debilitated planet will actually serve to stress the native and scar

their subconscious, the result being a weakness relevant to the

planet rather than strength. Mars debilitated indicates that the

native is weak in their ideas and, therefore, has trouble moving

forward with their ideas. Mercury debilitated indicates that the

native has not assimilated the information and knowledge

indicated by Mercury in a way that can practically benefit them.

Jupiter debilitated indicates that the native has only been

conditioned by beliefs that do not serve to give them a sense of

meaning or purpose. Venus debilitated indicates that the native

has only been conditioned in a way that prevents them from

recognizing the true worth or value of things and opportunities in

life, thereby causing them to make decisions that prove wasteful

of time, energy, money or which are emotionally draining. Saturn

debilitated indicates that the native has suffered stress that has

harmed their self-esteem and which does nothing, therefore, to

strengthen them. Though the yoga effects of any yogas that the

debilitated planet may be forming are empowered, the mind will

suffer a greater amount of stress than if the debilitated planet was

elsewhere.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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PS: In reference to the Sunapha, Anapha and Durudhura yogas, R.

Santhanam clarifies, in his 'notes' (Saravali of Kalyana Varma), the

importance of planets causing these yogas being without affliction.

 

He makes it quite clear when he says that Anapha and Sunapha caused

by a debilitated planet will only yield adverse results. He gives

praise however to the participation of exalted planets. He makes

special mention (Anapha yoga) of exalted Venus; Jupiter in Cancer,

and Mercury in Virgo with Moon in Libra...

 

Common-sense is based on the knowledge we've gained. How can we

apply our common-sense to jyotish if we have little (or no)

knowledge of it. How can we apply our common-sense to the rules of

nuclear physics if we have no knowledge of these rules??

 

Now, opinions are a different matter entirely...anyone can have an

opinion!

_______________________________

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Friday, January 06, 2006 4:36 PM

Re: A lesson in common sense

 

 

Dear Vijay,

 

You Wrote:

//I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather than

common sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it.

But mars and moon combination gives logical mind.//

 

Common-sense dictates that Saturn's lordship will be the decisive

factor - one size definitely does not fit all! The favourable aspect

between Moon and Mars bestows excellent physical and emotional

strength - an unfavourable aspect makes one moody and quarrelsome.

 

//All the unblemished planets attribute to comman sense .//

 

This is true (only) in that unblemished planets contribute to the

horoscope as a whole. However their relationship with Moon is an

important consideration.

 

//Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second

attribute to comman-sense.//

 

Certainly Moon isolated in a chart is not good for one's emotional

well-being. However, common-sense must be exercised when

ascertaining the results due to this (or any) yoga. Take a little

time to think of the (possible) results of Moon in Leo, flanked by

debilitated Mars in Cancer and debilitated Venus in Virgo...all

yogas need careful scrutiny!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Dear friends,

 

If I am allowed to add a line here, that any yoga which is to be

fructified and deliver its result, the Lagna Lord should be in

strength.

 

Even if the yoga making planets are strong enough but the Lagna Lord

is not in required strength, the so called yogas are not delivering

their expected results.

 

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> You Wrote:

> //I feel Saturn and Moon Relation will bring stubborness rather

than

> common sense and if Mars and lagna is involved,it will add to it.

> But mars and moon combination gives logical mind.//

>

> Common-sense dictates that Saturn's lordship will be the decisive

> factor - one size definitely does not fit all! The favourable

aspect

> between Moon and Mars bestows excellent physical and emotional

> strength - an unfavourable aspect makes one moody and quarrelsome.

>

> //All the unblemished planets attribute to comman sense .//

>

> This is true (only) in that unblemished planets contribute to the

> horoscope as a whole. However their relationship with Moon is an

> important consideration.

>

> //Moon in Duradhar yoga gives the native balance mind second

> attribute to comman-sense.//

>

> Certainly Moon isolated in a chart is not good for one's emotional

> well-being. However, common-sense must be exercised when

> ascertaining the results due to this (or any) yoga. Take a little

> time to think of the (possible) results of Moon in Leo, flanked by

> debilitated Mars in Cancer and debilitated Venus in Virgo...all

> yogas need careful scrutiny!

>

> I include here an extract from Ernst Wilhelm's book, "Core Yogas"

>

> DISRUPTIONS TO LUNAR YOGAS

> There are several conditions that hamper or disrupt the beneficial

> effects of these three important Lunar Yogas:

>

> 1. The effects of Anapha, Sunapha, and Durudhara Yogas are less if

> the Moon is weak by having less than 20 virupas of paksha bala.

> This occurs when the Moon is within a 60-degree orb of the Sun.

> In this event, the Moon has little light. The light of the Moon

> indicates the receptive ability of the Moon; when it is less the

> Moon gains less from the planets forming the Anapha, Sunapha

> or Durudhara Yoga.

>

> 2. The beneficial effects of these yogas are lessened and some

> difficulties crop in when the Moon is in conjunction with Rahu

> or Ketu. Rahu or Ketu hamper the natural receptive qualities of

> the Moon which then reduces the beneficial influences the

> planets in the 2nd or 12th from the Moon may have. Rahu is worse

> than Ketu and distorts the pure qualities of the planets in the 2nd

> and 12th from the Moon, while Ketu introverts the Moon, which

> makes it less receptive and less influenced by external factors. In

> fact, Ketu's union with the Moon indicates very strong past life

> conditioning that is influenced only very slightly by current

> experiences.

>

> 3. The beneficial effects of these yogas are also lessened and some

> difficulties crop in if Rahu is in the 12th from the Moon. Rahu has

> a slightly cloudy and disruptive influence on the rasi it has just

> passed through, which is the 2nd rasi from Rahu. Rahu is said to

> create smoke, this "smoke" hovers over the last rasi Rahu has

> crossed. When Rahu is in the 12th from the Moon, therefore, the

> qualities of any of the other planets that the Moon is receptive to

> are somewhat distorted, but to a much lesser degree than when

> the Moon is actually conjunct Rahu.

>

> 4. If a planet forming one of these yogas is combust, then that

> planet no longer purely influences the Moon. A combust planet

> becomes angry, and has a sense of failure. These tendencies will

> then influence the Moon and the mind will, therefore, be prone

> to anger, frustration and weakness relative to the combust planet.

>

> 5. If a planet forming one of these yogas is debilitated, then that

> planet will influence the Moon and, therefore, the mind, with

> stress relevant to the difficulties of the debilitated planet. A

> debilitated planet will actually serve to stress the native and

scar

> their subconscious, the result being a weakness relevant to the

> planet rather than strength. Mars debilitated indicates that the

> native is weak in their ideas and, therefore, has trouble moving

> forward with their ideas. Mercury debilitated indicates that the

> native has not assimilated the information and knowledge

> indicated by Mercury in a way that can practically benefit them.

> Jupiter debilitated indicates that the native has only been

> conditioned by beliefs that do not serve to give them a sense of

> meaning or purpose. Venus debilitated indicates that the native

> has only been conditioned in a way that prevents them from

> recognizing the true worth or value of things and opportunities in

> life, thereby causing them to make decisions that prove wasteful

> of time, energy, money or which are emotionally draining. Saturn

> debilitated indicates that the native has suffered stress that has

> harmed their self-esteem and which does nothing, therefore, to

> strengthen them. Though the yoga effects of any yogas that the

> debilitated planet may be forming are empowered, the mind will

> suffer a greater amount of stress than if the debilitated planet

was

> elsewhere.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

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