Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Dear Mrs Wendy, Thank you for your reply. Perhaps I want too much of Astrology, but maybe time will tell me to relax and do not worry so much whether my birth time is correct or not - actually my adventure trying to find out my real birth time sometimes makes me laugh because each system I use gives me totally different times!!! I have recently paid for a professional Astrologer to rectify my time of birth, but he told me what I already knew!!! That my time is from 18.30 to 19.00. This made me rethink my own rectification for 19.30 as the reasons he gave did make sense... However time still remains a mystery... A friend of mine who does KP Astrology says it must be 18.35.42 so that is the one I am testing now. I am going to print out your email and use it for my Dasha studies using the Parashara system only. Still regarding my other email, could you please enlighten about whether Venus being operational would or not also "activate" the Moon which is the same Nakshatra though 9 degrees away? Also, would it be correct to say that the Nakshatra lords take their house significations from the signs? For example, my Venus in 5th is in the Krittika ruled by the Sun, now should this Sun be regarded as 8th house ruler and when Venus is operational would not only 5th (where it is placed) but also 8th house significations "be activated"? Sorry for my technical English :-) Thanks again and GREAT 2006 to you and your family !!! Rui. Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Rui, The basic principle, and this applies to all (mahadasa, bhukti, PD etc), is quite simple: "The significations of the planet, and the affairs of the house it occupies, will manifest during its dasa." The mahadasa, due to its longer duration will show the main trend in life. For instance, during this Mercury mahadasa, the trend of my life has been on learning, writing, communicating (as per the significations of Mercury), and that learning/communicating has been an expression of 9th house. Of course other things happen within that period (as per the sub-lords), worries and concerns for children, ups and downs generally, hospitalisation, death of siblings and so forth...all sorts of things happen, but still the main trend of life is according to dasa lord. My comment earlier on the importance of understanding the influence of the sub lords was in reference to their significations and the affairs of the house they occupy...that's all; nothing complicated, no hidden meaning :-) As for the sookshmantar(4th) and pranadasa(5th), I don't know of any astrologer who uses them consistently as birth time must be rectified precisely...pranadasa can be so fleeting, do we really need to know the minutest details of every day which are generally forgotten very quickly anyway? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:14 PM Dasha levels - meanings Dear Mrs Wendy, Your interjection is very welcome. You said: "Certainly some adjustment in time can be implemented with the help of sookshmantar, but it's necessary to understand well the influence of these lesser lords." Regarding the Dasha levels, I have read the following somewhere, but would like to seek confirmation from you about the real meanings: Dasha levels: 1. Mahadasha indicates your Karma; 2. Bukthi indicates who you meet and the things (problems, etc) you encounter; 3. Indicates how you are going to react to those things promised in the bukthi; Would it then be correct to say, risking paraphrasing journalist language, that level 1 is the WHAT, then level 2 could be the WHO, 3rd HOW? What about the 4th, 5th and 6th levels, what are their meanings? As you say, it is important to "understand well the influence of these lesser lords", then what are their objective meanings and how do they function. is there anywhere on your website where I can retrieve this info? Thanks again, Rui. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Rui, You Wrote: "Still regarding my other email, could you please enlighten about whether Venus being operational would or not also "activate" the Moon which is the same Nakshatra though 9 degrees away?" All planets are naturally influenced by those they conjoin or are aspected by...it's not that Venus "activates" Moon but that Venus, and the house he occupies, is influenced by the presence of Moon. Remember I had said earlier that the significations of the planet and the affairs of the house it occupies will manifest during its period...sit back and think about this for awhile! Both the significations of Venus and the affairs of the house it occupies will be influenced by all who aspect them (aspect also implies conjunction). You should also sit back and contemplate the fact that, in your chart, Venus is Moon's dispositor...this gives extra emphasis to their relationship, wouldn't you say? Both are in nakshatra of Sun and so forth. When it comes to inclinations of the mind you should look at all the influences...not just Moon! For you, lagnesh Sani is suffering debilitation in 4th house (emotional mind/happiness & contentment etc) whilst his dispositor (Mars) aspects Moon and Venus in 5th, as well as their dispositor Sun (and Mercury) in 6th, etc.. The aspect of Mars, no doubt, gives a sharp intellect but one can't ignore his dispositorship of debilitated Saturn, nor indeed the aspect of Saturn himself, which is a contributing factor to the depression that sometimes overtakes you. Do you remember how things were when you first joined JyotishVidya? "Also, would it be correct to say that the Nakshatra lords take their house significations from the signs? For example, my Venus in 5th is in the Krittika ruled by the Sun, now should this Sun be regarded as 8th house ruler and when Venus is operational would not only 5th (where it is placed) but also 8th house significations "be activated"? Sorry for my technical English :-)" Saying it simply might help to understand it simply i.e; "both Moon and Venus (as well as Lagna, Jupiter and Ketu) occupy nakshatra of 8th lord Sun who conjuncts Mercury in 6th." Regarding the difficulties you're having with your chart and the confusion you've found with multiple systems...by your own words: "actually my adventure trying to find out my real birth time sometimes makes me laugh because each system I use gives me totally different times!!!" You have Jupiter, the giver of knowledge, conjunct Ketu in 9th house. The thirst for higher knowledge is there no doubt...bear in mind Jupiter is dispositor of dasa lord Rahu, so the desire for knowledge is strong (passionate even). However, the presence of Ketu can keep things hidden from you...Ketu is like a veil, a cloud over Jupiter. Braha describes a planet conjunct Ketu as being dissolved or swallowed up into an abyss... I prefer to see it as a cloud that can hinder the full potential of Jupiter. We might also say that one's approach to knowledge (or understanding) would be somewhat unconventional (unusual)...this is the nature of Ketu. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thank you so much for your time and clarifications. Yes, Ketu's influence on my 9th and Jupiter delays things and all my life I have never learnt anything the conventional way, knowledge always came to me anyway and I was successful with my studies (school and then University), but the way I always approached things was different and that actually was sometimes a good thing because I could see what others could not, and both colleagues and teachers would be interested in my views because indeed they were "unconventional" and would bring some "light" to debates, so I think cloudy as Ketu may certainly be, it also helps me see through clouds and sometimes see things that others cannot see - this I believe is due to Ketu's placement in 9th, which is good for Ketu and maybe sheds some light on Ketu's cloudy nature. >From analysing other people's charts, I believe it also endows one with very sharp intuition. Best wishes, Rui. Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Rui, You Wrote: "Still regarding my other email, could you please enlighten about whether Venus being operational would or not also "activate" the Moon which is the same Nakshatra though 9 degrees away?" All planets are naturally influenced by those they conjoin or are aspected by...it's not that Venus "activates" Moon but that Venus, and the house he occupies, is influenced by the presence of Moon. Remember I had said earlier that the significations of the planet and the affairs of the house it occupies will manifest during its period...sit back and think about this for awhile! Both the significations of Venus and the affairs of the house it occupies will be influenced by all who aspect them (aspect also implies conjunction). You should also sit back and contemplate the fact that, in your chart, Venus is Moon's dispositor...this gives extra emphasis to their relationship, wouldn't you say? Both are in nakshatra of Sun and so forth. When it comes to inclinations of the mind you should look at all the influences...not just Moon! For you, lagnesh Sani is suffering debilitation in 4th house (emotional mind/happiness & contentment etc) whilst his dispositor (Mars) aspects Moon and Venus in 5th, as well as their dispositor Sun (and Mercury) in 6th, etc.. The aspect of Mars, no doubt, gives a sharp intellect but one can't ignore his dispositorship of debilitated Saturn, nor indeed the aspect of Saturn himself, which is a contributing factor to the depression that sometimes overtakes you. Do you remember how things were when you first joined JyotishVidya? "Also, would it be correct to say that the Nakshatra lords take their house significations from the signs? For example, my Venus in 5th is in the Krittika ruled by the Sun, now should this Sun be regarded as 8th house ruler and when Venus is operational would not only 5th (where it is placed) but also 8th house significations "be activated"? Sorry for my technical English :-)" Saying it simply might help to understand it simply i.e; "both Moon and Venus (as well as Lagna, Jupiter and Ketu) occupy nakshatra of 8th lord Sun who conjuncts Mercury in 6th." Regarding the difficulties you're having with your chart and the confusion you've found with multiple systems...by your own words: "actually my adventure trying to find out my real birth time sometimes makes me laugh because each system I use gives me totally different times!!!" You have Jupiter, the giver of knowledge, conjunct Ketu in 9th house. The thirst for higher knowledge is there no doubt...bear in mind Jupiter is dispositor of dasa lord Rahu, so the desire for knowledge is strong (passionate even). However, the presence of Ketu can keep things hidden from you...Ketu is like a veil, a cloud over Jupiter. Braha describes a planet conjunct Ketu as being dissolved or swallowed up into an abyss... I prefer to see it as a cloud that can hinder the full potential of Jupiter. We might also say that one's approach to knowledge (or understanding) would be somewhat unconventional (unusual)...this is the nature of Ketu. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Rui, You Wrote: *From analysing other people's charts, I believe it also endows one with very sharp intuition.* As I said earlier the aspect of Mars on both 5th house and Mercury (in 6th) sharpens the intellect. And no doubt, Mercury, the planet of the intellect, conjunct 8th lord Sun, gives good intuition...this is undeniable. However, what I was referring to specifically was Jupiter's governance of conventional knowledge, conventional religion etc.. This is not to be confused with learning or with the qualities of intellect which are governed by Mercury. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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