Importance of Nakshatras - Mrs Wendy and Mr Krishnan

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Dear Mr Krishnan, Mrs Wendy and all,

 

Yes, that is so true. I do occasionally switch from one system to the other but

never mixing them. SA is very good for predictions and I have made quite

accurate ones using SA, but I regret to say that they do not use Nakshatras at

all and the Dasha levels used only go as far as the bukthi, so the detail is

missing there, even though SA is a clear cut approach to astrology that really

works and I have got very accurate results using it.

 

Still on the mixing systems, for example, in SA my trainees would never be seen

from 6th, but always from 5th and indeed in November when I got a new trainee,

Mercury was transiting my 11th aspecting my 5th during those important ascendant

degrees which they in SA call Most Effective Point, so SA does work, however the

level of detail that you get from analysing the Nakshatras should not be

overlooked.

 

It is my personal intent to go beyond SA now that I have practised Astrology

using SA, which got me familiar with many of the normal astrology techniques,

etc. Last night I could not sleep because I could not stop thinking of how the

Nakshatras make sense and how important they are. In my case, for example, all

is so clear and things that are omitted otherwise become alive in details. Just

for example, Saturn rules my 2nd and Saturn is placed in the Nakshatra of Venus

- this makes a lot of sense because if 2nd house rules family and speech etc,

then Saturn being in the strong Nakshatra of Venus would account for the fact

that my family is a family of musicians and artists: father and aunt were Opera

singers, grandmother a pianist, grandfather a conductor (maestro) plus Maria de

Medeiros (Pulp Fiction film by Tarentino, Henry and June, etc) is actually my

cousin and her father, my uncle is a maestro. Now these details would never be

there if I did not analyse them using the

Nakshatras!!! I will not bother you much longer but if indeed my Ascendant fall

on the UttaraUshada Nakshatra then my ascendant nakshatra is ruled by the Sun,

which is in the 6th of what? Maternal aunts and uncles who were who I ended up

with during my childhood plus the Sun there being in Nakshatra of Jupiter and

Gemini conjunct Mercury, I think that accounts for my love for gadgets and

interest in Astrology plus writing... So using the Nakshatras must be what

brings the detail into a chart and in my humble opinion they should not be

overlooked but looked into in detail. But one cannot mix the systems.

 

Thanks for reading my views, Rui.

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Dear Friends

"If you wish to use the Jaimini system, that's fine. If you wish to

use the Nadi system, that's fine. If you wish to use the Western

system, that's fine. If you wish to use the KP system, that's fine.

If you wish to use the SA, that's fine. Whatever you feel

comfortable with, stick to it, but DON'T mix and match one system

with another...it leads to total confusion!"

These observations made sounds true.This where we are discounting reliability

by mixing up various methods.Incase if we have to be more scientific we may

prove and disprove by the same method not ecclectic approacj.

krishnan

 

 

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear xxxx,

 

You Wrote:

*In the past I have on a few occasions come across your posts

to Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as

well as Parasara that you might object to.*

 

That's just ridiculous! Why on earth would I object to Jaimini etc..

These are legitimate methods of prediction. What I do object to is

mixing one method with another. We wouldn't consider applying the

principles of Chinese astrology to the Vimsottari dasa system would

we? or using the Western tropical zodiac in conjunction

with a Vedic chart... In the same way we should not use Jaimini

methods of prediction along with the Parashara system. They ARE

seperate systems, and Astrologers, like R. Koch, who are unable to

grasp this fact have no credibility. My views on Mr. Koch and his

ilk have not changed nor are they likely to.

 

If you wish to use the Jaimini system, that's fine. If you wish to

use the Nadi system, that's fine. If you wish to use the Western

system, that's fine. If you wish to use the KP system, that's fine.

If you wish to use the SA, that's fine. Whatever you feel

comfortable with, stick to it, but DON'T mix and match one system

with another...it leads to total confusion!

 

It's hoped that Jyotish-Vidya can present the Parashara system as

the pure "stand-alone" method of prediction that it is. I do not

agree with Mr. Koch's views on Astrology any more than I agree with

his MILITANT approach to religion...denouncing everyone who doesn't

abide by his views.

 

Mr. Koch is very ambitious in regards to religion and astrology

(Vedic Sciences). This is not surprising with F/M Mars in 9th in

nakshatra of Jupiter. He has no qualms denouncing those who don't

adhere to his religious or astrology ideas, neither does he have any

qualms about stabbing anyone in the back who stands in the way of

his career/recognition... Saturn in 10th! Yes, he can speak very

nicely and impress with his knowledge but be aware of F/M Jupiter

conjunct Ketu in 2nd house of knowledge/speech.

 

Mr. Koch's chart, in the public arena for many years, has been

discussed openly and publicly with his consent. He knows my views!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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"xxxx xxxxx" <xxx xxxx xxxx>

<jyotish-vidya-owner>

Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:27 AM

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka

das' newly released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka das' newly

released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

Dear Wendy,

 

I am not sure if you are aware or not but Robert Koch's book came

out in

October. Below is a critique of it.

I purchased it last month and I find it to be exceptional and

comprehensive along with an advanced spirituality in Vedic astrology

presented. I have no Idea how long it will take me to get through

this

book but I am glad I have it in my Vedic library. The terminology

alone

will keep me glued to a Vedic/English dictionary for years.

 

In the past past I have on a few occasions come across your posts to

Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I

am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as well as

Parasara that you might object to. Even so, I thought I would pass

this

article on to you. If you have the book for review or have

purchased it

for your own library - I would be interested in your critique and

value

of Robert's writing.

 

I like the man personally. In fact a few years ago through another

contact he was generous enough to give me a very generous surprise

by

rectifying my birth chart.

 

I am not sure though, being a beginner in self study of only a few

years

about the objection about Jimini or Nadi or any of the other

branches of

Vedic astrology but I have taken notice that you object completely.

So

your valued opinion on the subject would also be appreciated.

 

Of course when you have time and are well rested.

 

I hope you don't mind me sending this privately. But, I thought

best

not to send it openly to the forum.

 

xxxx (xxxx)

 

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