Newly released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

[Guest guest]

Dear xxxx,

 

You Wrote:

*In the past I have on a few occasions come across your posts

to Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as

well as Parasara that you might object to.*

 

That's just ridiculous! Why on earth would I object to Jaimini etc..

These are legitimate methods of prediction. What I do object to is

mixing one method with another. We wouldn't consider applying the

principles of Chinese astrology to the Vimsottari dasa system would

we? or using the Western tropical zodiac in conjunction

with a Vedic chart... In the same way we should not use Jaimini

methods of prediction along with the Parashara system. They ARE

seperate systems, and Astrologers, like R. Koch, who are unable to

grasp this fact have no credibility. My views on Mr. Koch and his

ilk have not changed nor are they likely to.

 

If you wish to use the Jaimini system, that's fine. If you wish to

use the Nadi system, that's fine. If you wish to use the Western

system, that's fine. If you wish to use the KP system, that's fine.

If you wish to use the SA, that's fine. Whatever you feel

comfortable with, stick to it, but DON'T mix and match one system

with another...it leads to total confusion!

 

It's hoped that Jyotish-Vidya can present the Parashara system as

the pure "stand-alone" method of prediction that it is. I do not

agree with Mr. Koch's views on Astrology any more than I agree with

his MILITANT approach to religion...denouncing everyone who doesn't

abide by his views.

 

Mr. Koch is very ambitious in regards to religion and astrology

(Vedic Sciences). This is not surprising with F/M Mars in 9th in

nakshatra of Jupiter. He has no qualms denouncing those who don't

adhere to his religious or astrology ideas, neither does he have any

qualms about stabbing anyone in the back who stands in the way of

his career/recognition... Saturn in 10th! Yes, he can speak very

nicely and impress with his knowledge but be aware of F/M Jupiter

conjunct Ketu in 2nd house of knowledge/speech.

 

Mr. Koch's chart, in the public arena for many years, has been

discussed openly and publicly with his consent. He knows my views!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"xxxx xxxxx" <xxx xxxx xxxx>

<jyotish-vidya-owner>

Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:27 AM

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka

das' newly released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka das' newly

released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

Dear Wendy,

 

I am not sure if you are aware or not but Robert Koch's book came

out in

October. Below is a critique of it.

I purchased it last month and I find it to be exceptional and

comprehensive along with an advanced spirituality in Vedic astrology

presented. I have no Idea how long it will take me to get through

this

book but I am glad I have it in my Vedic library. The terminology

alone

will keep me glued to a Vedic/English dictionary for years.

 

In the past past I have on a few occasions come across your posts to

Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I

am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as well as

Parasara that you might object to. Even so, I thought I would pass

this

article on to you. If you have the book for review or have

purchased it

for your own library - I would be interested in your critique and

value

of Robert's writing.

 

I like the man personally. In fact a few years ago through another

contact he was generous enough to give me a very generous surprise

by

rectifying my birth chart.

 

I am not sure though, being a beginner in self study of only a few

years

about the objection about Jimini or Nadi or any of the other

branches of

Vedic astrology but I have taken notice that you object completely.

So

your valued opinion on the subject would also be appreciated.

 

Of course when you have time and are well rested.

 

I hope you don't mind me sending this privately. But, I thought

best

not to send it openly to the forum.

 

xxxx (xxxx)

 

www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka das' newly released

Vedic

Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

<http://www.chakra.org/images/chkrleft.gif>

 

New Book Links Devotion, Astrology

 

by Mohini dasi

 

Posted December 22, 2005

 

The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology

Paravidya Publications, Bend, Oregon

by Robert A. Koch (419 pages, $33.00 US)

 

Patraka das, a.k.a. Robert A. Koch, has recently released a book on

sidereal (Vedic) astrology. A disciple of His Divine Grace A.C

Bhaktivedenta Swami Srila Prabhupada, Patraka das served for two

decades

as a sincere and dedicated pujari in Canadian and American ISKCON

centers, often exhibiting apenchantfor scholastic and intellectual

pursuits, initially glimpsed through his discourses and classes,

then

followed by tireless studies of sidereal astrology under the

guidance of

Jyotish Pundit Sanjay Rath for over 15 years.

 

Now, Patraka's passionate dedication and mission has been

confirmed:establishing spiritual links between the sacred writings

of

the four original Vedas, jyotish and its influence on advanced

transcendentalists,whichhas become his tireless seva. His devotion

to

Srila Prabhupada's writings is obvious on every page of this

presentation, and his painstaking research focuses on delineating

this

connection in a clear, easy-to-assimilate format.

 

Patrakadas's immaculate writing attempts to establish jyotish as one

of

the four original cornerstones of human existence, declaring that

Vedic

astrology, cosmology and other disciplines handed down from Sri

Krishna

Narayana Himself are the oldest system of knowledge used by mankind

before the advent of modern science. Backed with copious scriptural

references, logic and page after page of succinct examples,

including a

tightly condensed and easily consulted version of the Creation and

Vedic

Cosmology and Vedic theology, this generous work of over 400 pages,

focuses on the importance of transcendental spiritual existence,

theonlygoal of human life.

 

Complete with excellent study graphs,and accompanied with chart

analyses

of exalted saints, sadhus and devotee associates within our

sampradaya,

this book will likely become a textbook requirement in the study of

astrology. It is a delight fordevotees, informative for scholars and

compelling for intermediate jyotisha practitioners or anyone

interested

in the study of the stars and planets and their possible spiritual

effect onall ourlives.

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends

"If you wish to use the Jaimini system, that's fine. If you wish to

use the Nadi system, that's fine. If you wish to use the Western

system, that's fine. If you wish to use the KP system, that's fine.

If you wish to use the SA, that's fine. Whatever you feel

comfortable with, stick to it, but DON'T mix and match one system

with another...it leads to total confusion!"

These observations made sounds true.This where we are discounting reliability

by mixing up various methods.Incase if we have to be more scientific we may

prove and disprove by the same method not ecclectic approacj.

krishnan

 

 

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear xxxx,

 

You Wrote:

*In the past I have on a few occasions come across your posts

to Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as

well as Parasara that you might object to.*

 

That's just ridiculous! Why on earth would I object to Jaimini etc..

These are legitimate methods of prediction. What I do object to is

mixing one method with another. We wouldn't consider applying the

principles of Chinese astrology to the Vimsottari dasa system would

we? or using the Western tropical zodiac in conjunction

with a Vedic chart... In the same way we should not use Jaimini

methods of prediction along with the Parashara system. They ARE

seperate systems, and Astrologers, like R. Koch, who are unable to

grasp this fact have no credibility. My views on Mr. Koch and his

ilk have not changed nor are they likely to.

 

If you wish to use the Jaimini system, that's fine. If you wish to

use the Nadi system, that's fine. If you wish to use the Western

system, that's fine. If you wish to use the KP system, that's fine.

If you wish to use the SA, that's fine. Whatever you feel

comfortable with, stick to it, but DON'T mix and match one system

with another...it leads to total confusion!

 

It's hoped that Jyotish-Vidya can present the Parashara system as

the pure "stand-alone" method of prediction that it is. I do not

agree with Mr. Koch's views on Astrology any more than I agree with

his MILITANT approach to religion...denouncing everyone who doesn't

abide by his views.

 

Mr. Koch is very ambitious in regards to religion and astrology

(Vedic Sciences). This is not surprising with F/M Mars in 9th in

nakshatra of Jupiter. He has no qualms denouncing those who don't

adhere to his religious or astrology ideas, neither does he have any

qualms about stabbing anyone in the back who stands in the way of

his career/recognition... Saturn in 10th! Yes, he can speak very

nicely and impress with his knowledge but be aware of F/M Jupiter

conjunct Ketu in 2nd house of knowledge/speech.

 

Mr. Koch's chart, in the public arena for many years, has been

discussed openly and publicly with his consent. He knows my views!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"xxxx xxxxx" <xxx xxxx xxxx>

<jyotish-vidya-owner>

Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:27 AM

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka

das' newly released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

FW: www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka das' newly

released Vedic Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

Dear Wendy,

 

I am not sure if you are aware or not but Robert Koch's book came

out in

October. Below is a critique of it.

I purchased it last month and I find it to be exceptional and

comprehensive along with an advanced spirituality in Vedic astrology

presented. I have no Idea how long it will take me to get through

this

book but I am glad I have it in my Vedic library. The terminology

alone

will keep me glued to a Vedic/English dictionary for years.

 

In the past past I have on a few occasions come across your posts to

Sanjay Rath where you argue how he delineates from the Parasara

norm. I

am guessing that Robert's book here is filled with Jamini as well as

Parasara that you might object to. Even so, I thought I would pass

this

article on to you. If you have the book for review or have

purchased it

for your own library - I would be interested in your critique and

value

of Robert's writing.

 

I like the man personally. In fact a few years ago through another

contact he was generous enough to give me a very generous surprise

by

rectifying my birth chart.

 

I am not sure though, being a beginner in self study of only a few

years

about the objection about Jimini or Nadi or any of the other

branches of

Vedic astrology but I have taken notice that you object completely.

So

your valued opinion on the subject would also be appreciated.

 

Of course when you have time and are well rested.

 

I hope you don't mind me sending this privately. But, I thought

best

not to send it openly to the forum.

 

xxxx (xxxx)

 

www.chakra.org writeup on RK-Patraka das' newly released

Vedic

Astrology- Jyotish book!

 

<http://www.chakra.org/images/chkrleft.gif>

 

New Book Links Devotion, Astrology

 

by Mohini dasi

 

Posted December 22, 2005

 

The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology

Paravidya Publications, Bend, Oregon

by Robert A. Koch (419 pages, $33.00 US)

 

Patraka das, a.k.a. Robert A. Koch, has recently released a book on

sidereal (Vedic) astrology. A disciple of His Divine Grace A.C

Bhaktivedenta Swami Srila Prabhupada, Patraka das served for two

decades

as a sincere and dedicated pujari in Canadian and American ISKCON

centers, often exhibiting apenchantfor scholastic and intellectual

pursuits, initially glimpsed through his discourses and classes,

then

followed by tireless studies of sidereal astrology under the

guidance of

Jyotish Pundit Sanjay Rath for over 15 years.

 

Now, Patraka's passionate dedication and mission has been

confirmed:establishing spiritual links between the sacred writings

of

the four original Vedas, jyotish and its influence on advanced

transcendentalists,whichhas become his tireless seva. His devotion

to

Srila Prabhupada's writings is obvious on every page of this

presentation, and his painstaking research focuses on delineating

this

connection in a clear, easy-to-assimilate format.

 

Patrakadas's immaculate writing attempts to establish jyotish as one

of

the four original cornerstones of human existence, declaring that

Vedic

astrology, cosmology and other disciplines handed down from Sri

Krishna

Narayana Himself are the oldest system of knowledge used by mankind

before the advent of modern science. Backed with copious scriptural

references, logic and page after page of succinct examples,

including a

tightly condensed and easily consulted version of the Creation and

Vedic

Cosmology and Vedic theology, this generous work of over 400 pages,

focuses on the importance of transcendental spiritual existence,

theonlygoal of human life.

 

Complete with excellent study graphs,and accompanied with chart

analyses

of exalted saints, sadhus and devotee associates within our

sampradaya,

this book will likely become a textbook requirement in the study of

astrology. It is a delight fordevotees, informative for scholars and

compelling for intermediate jyotisha practitioners or anyone

interested

in the study of the stars and planets and their possible spiritual

effect onall ourlives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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