Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Technique Details and Procedures [1] Astrological ~ casting of Horoscope Three basic types of horoscope readings: (a) PARASHARI/Jaimini* (b) TAJAKA* © KRISHNAMURTI PADDHATI [K.P.]* Two issues that arise when creating a Prashna chart: WHAT TIME TO DRAW THE CHART FOR and WHAT LOCATION TO USE? Draw the chart for the time and place when and where the JYOTISHI RECEIVES the question/ email/ letter/ telephone. (Impregnation may be in Hawaii, but delivery may be in London! So make chart for ¡§birth in London¡¨). a/ Applying Parashari/Jaimini principles All general horoscopy principals as taught by Sage Parashara! The Parashari method, enlarged by Prithyushas in his Shatapanchsika has been the most widely practised technique by majority of Hindu astrologers for many centuries. The prashna horoscope is read just like a normal chart. Special importance is given to the signification (Karakatwa) of the Grahas and the Bhavas pertaining to the question. When we combine the common and familiar, logical characteristics of the Grahas together with the nature of the PRASHNA, we then begin to formulate a detailed picture - The Karakatwas enable us to decode the horoscope¡¦s hidden meanings. Karakatwa SUMMARY: Governance: Sun governs soul, Moon mind, Mars strength, Mercury speech, Jupiter knowledge and happiness, Venus pleasure and Saturn sorrow. Planetary Cabinet: Sun and Moon are considered Royal Planets. Mars is the Army Chief and Mercury the prince. Jupiter and Venus are Ministers whereas Saturn is the servant; Rahu and Ketu are soldiers of the army. Basic nature: Moon (waxing), Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are basically benefic. Sun, Moon (waning), Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are malefic by nature. Functional nature will depend on the houses rued by them, depending on the Lagna. Sex of Planets: Sun, Mars and Jupiter are considered Male. Moon and Venus are Female, whereas Saturn and Mercury are considered Neutral. Abodes: Sun signifies places of worship. Moon watery places like lakes, rivers. Mars fire places like kitchen/factory, Mercury sports grounds/markets. Jupiter treasures/banks, and Venus signifies places of pleasures like bedroom/hotels, and Saturn filthy places/rubbish tips. Gunas: Sun, Moon and Jupiter have Satwik gunas, Mars and Venus have Rajsik gunas and Mercury and Saturn have Tamasik gunas. E.G. how is my business partner? Strength of planets in a prashna chart will reflect the qualities of the person. Planetary Castes: Jupiter and Venus are Brahmins, Sun and Mars are Kshatriya, Moon and Mercury are Vaishya and Saturn belongs to Shudra Caste. Rahu+Ketu outcastes. Tatva: Planets are also associated with different tatvas/elements. Sun and Mars signify Agni, Moon and Venus Jala, Mercury Bhumi or earth, Jupiter Sky/ether and Saturn Vayu. Complexion: Different planets symbolize different colors. Sun symbolizes ¡§Raktashyama¡¨ i.e. red with black or Dark tint, Mars ¡§ Kujo rakto¡¨ i.e. blood red, Moon fair complexion, Mercury green, Jupiter orangey-brown yellow, Venus variegated or white; Saturn dark blue, Rahu black and Ketu variegated/multi-coloured. Physical Characteristics: Natives with Sun¡¦s influence on Lagna will be squarish and limited hair. Moon will have round face, beautiful eyes, and curly and short hair. Mars will have strong physique, red eyes and thin shining hair. Mercury will have an attractive physique. Jupiter will have large body, broad chest and big belly, honey eyes and hair. Venus has charming features, long hands, symmetrical limbs, beautiful, brilliant and broad eyes and curly hair. Saturn represents emaciated and long body, prominent veins, long nails, blackish color, depressed eyes and coarse hair. Personality: Sun¡¦s influence on personality makes the native manly, intelligent, sharp mind and clean habits. Moon makes a person fickle minded and lustful. Mars is cruel, stands for strength, courage, stamina and passion. Mercury is diplomatic, humorous and learned. Jupiter is knowledge and happiness, Venus is joyous, beautiful, poetic and intelligent and Saturn is lazy and lame, but if strong it can be mystic and philosophical. Speech/ Voice: Sun signifies Majestic voice, Moon sweet and soft, Mars forceful and clear, Mercury sweet, witty and Jupiter loud and clear. Body Ingredients: Sun controls Bones, Moon blood, Mars Marrow, Mercury skin, Jupiter fat, Venus semen and Saturn muscles. Any affliction of a planet may reflect in corresponding affliction on the native¡¦s body. Body Components: Sun and Mars represent Pitta, Jupiter and Venus Kapha, Moon and Saturn Vatta and Mercury represents all three. Afflictions would indicate the kind of illness and may help in recommending remedies. Periods: Planets are also associated with different periods. Saturn with Varsha, Sun with Ayna (half year), Mercury with Ritu (2 months), Jupiter Masa (month), Venus Paksha (15 days), Mars a day, Moon muhurta (48 minutes) and also Kshana (second), Rahu 8 months and Ketu 3 months. These periods are used to predict fructifications of events within a time span. Seasons: There are six seasons in a year each of 2 months:. Venus Vasant (spring, go out, travel and enjoy). Sun and Mars are associated with Grishma (summer, hot fierce quick activity). Moon with Varsha (rainy, calm, cool, balanced good work). Mercury Sharad (preparing for winter, new times, saving, storing harvest). Jupiter Hemant (getting the fruits of labour, joyous work) and Saturn with Shishira (winter, hard work in short-bursts, then rest long). Incarnations: Rama is the incarnation of Sun, Krishna of Moon, Narasimha of Mars, Buddha of Mercury, Vamana of Jupiter, Parshurama that of Venus, Koorma of Saturn, Varaha of Rahu and Matsya that of Ketu. Marana-Karka Sthana Bhavas in which the grahas lose their Karakatwa strength. Following are the Marna-Karka Sthanas for various planets. Planets in MKS will affect the significations of houses owned by them adversely during their dasha. Planet MKS Naisargika Karka for the house Sun 12 Saturn Moon 8 Saturn Mars 7 Venus Mercury 7 Venus Jupiter 3 Mars Venus 6 Mars Saturn 1 Sun Rahu 9 Jupiter Ketu - has no MKS Naisargika Karkas: Natural significations are used for general Phalita Jyotish. Houses too have their significations. Following list describes the significations for planets and houses. Sthira Karkas are included so as to show their association with respective houses. Sun: 1(self, soul, health), 5 (fame, power, paternal grandfather), 9 (father, boss), 10(career, achievement), 12(paternal grandmother) Moon: 1(mind), 4(mother and peace of mind), 7(maternal grandmother, 11(friends), 12(maternal grandfather, sleep) Mars: 3 (courage and siblings), 4 (land, real estate), 5(nyaya shashtra, speculation), 6(enemies, diseases, accidents, loans) Mercury: 2 (speech), 3(writing), 4 (formal education, learning), 5 (memory, scholarship), 6 (relatives), 7 (trade), 10(work, achievements, honors), 11(credits) Jupiter: 2(family, wealth), 4 (traditional learning, happiness), 5 (children, suns, knowledge, intelligence), 9 (dharma, bhagya, guru, diksha), 11 (elder brother, labha), 12(donation, heaven) Venus: 3(art), 4 (vehicles, luxuries), 5 (love, affection), 7(wife, husband, relationships, 9 (long distance travel), 12(sexual/ bed pleasures, long journeys, eyesight) Saturn: 5(followings), 6(service, servants, agriculture, physical pain), 8(longevity, disease), 9(past life), 12(losses, punishment, confinement, expenditure) Rahu: 6(accidents), 8(occult, destruction of mind, ill-fame, destruction of soul), 9(travel abroad, cause of rebirth), 12 (misfortune, bad habits, secret enemies) Ketu: 4 (home and building), 8 (occult, disease), 9 (spiritualism, travel abroad), 12(meditation, moksha) Apply the following mentioned principals and study thoroughly: The Moon is the seed, Lagna is the flower, Navamsa Lagna the fruit and the Bhava representing the subject-matter is the taste of the fruit. Hence it is of utmost importance to see that the Moon is not afflicted; otherwise there will be no sweet fruit to taste! The judgement should be sound, methodical and a total synthesis of the horoscope under scrutiny: „« Look at MOON placement, condition, its bhava lordship and its star lord - very important. It is the mana or MIND of the querent and will be reflected accurately in the horoscope if prashna is serious! Position of moon will indicate the agonies the native is suffering and worried about. „« The Lagna and Lagnesh rule the person asking the question and the question itself. First concentrate on the Lagna and Lagnesh, and then house concerned around which revolves the question (e.g. 2nd for money) and its lord (Karyesh). „« Is the rising sign Chara (moveable, activity, restless), Sthira (fixed, stable, persistence) or Dwishabhava (dual, wavering mind, confused)? Elements of signs (fiery, earthy, airy, watery)? How is it rising: Prishtodaya(-)Ar,Ta,Cn,Sg,Ca \ Sheershodaya(+) Ge,Le,Vi,Li,Sc,Aq, or Ubhayodaya(+/-)Pi? „« Are there benefics or malefics in Kendras, Trikonas, Dushsthanas, and Upachayas? And see their strengths (exalted/debilitated/combust)? „« Look at Aspects (malefic or benefic) on Bhava concerned, Lagna, Lagnesh, Moon, and their Dispositors. „« Consider the Raja-Yogas, Arishta-Yogas, Dhana-Yogas, etc.. See the Avasthas of all concerned planets especially Moon and Lagnesh. „« Look for Yoga-Karakas/ Atmakaraka/ Badhaka/ and the relevant Jaimini Chara Karaka and Sthira Karaka placement, aspects etc.. „« Strong 9th house/lord and 11th house/lord with benefic aspects etc., usually promises successful developments and fulfilment of desires. „« Also examine the Navamsha for final ¡§clinching¡¨, as this shows the real and subtle picture and will help you make your decision. (You could also go much deeper and use all other relevant Varga charts e.g. D-10, D-7,) „« Jaimini uses other special yogas, chara karakas, upa-grahas (gulika, mandi..) and various types of dashas. „« For TIMING use dashas/bhuktis, change from retrograde to direct and vice-versa, and special planetary periods (e.g. Sun = 6 months, Moon = 48 minutes muhurta, Mars = 1 day, Jupiter = 1 month, Saturn = 1 year) Some general principals/ indicators Lagna devoid of lagnesh aspect Lagna devoid of benefic aspect 25% chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Lagnesh unafflicted and aspected by /associated with one benefic. 50% chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result More than one benefic aspects lagna and/or lagnesh 75%(?) chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Waxing Moon unafflicted, Lagnesh unafflicted, Lagna aspected by its lord and benefics 100%(?) chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Powerful malefic(s) in 7th house, and benefic in lagna 0%(?) chance of success - the querent will meet with defeat, opposite party will win. NOTE: **Many times you will find that the Lagna, or Moon sign or moon nakshatra at time of question reflects strongly the querent¡¦s actual birth chart! **If question about third party e.g. "Will my son get a job" ¡V the Prasna chart should be rotated in this case making the 5th the new Lagna. **There is a system of Daivajna Neelakanth for answering several questions at the same time: 1st? use rising Lagna; 2nd? Moon lagna; 3rd? Sun sign; 4th? from Jupiter¡K **Prashna chart normally valid for 1 year. Then the same question may be asked again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear Moreshwar (?). You Wrote: >>Frequently used technique in ancient times, when birth times were >>not accurately recorded, or even known by most people.<< And this is the crux of it... is it not? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 and for any reason birth chart is not accessible and avaible,in ancient times prasna technique was resorted krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Moreshwar (?). You Wrote: >>Frequently used technique in ancient times, when birth times were >>not accurately recorded, or even known by most people.<< And this is the crux of it... is it not? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear Shri Moreshwar ji, A very timely and illustrative that effaces all kinds of doubts.Absolutely forthright in:**Many times you will find that the Lagna, or Moon sign or moon nakshatra at time of question reflects strongly the querent¡¦s actual birth chart! regards krishnan wise_moreshwar <silvertrine wrote: Technique Details and Procedures [1] Astrological ~ casting of Horoscope Three basic types of horoscope readings: (a) PARASHARI/Jaimini* (b) TAJAKA* © KRISHNAMURTI PADDHATI [K.P.]* Two issues that arise when creating a Prashna chart: WHAT TIME TO DRAW THE CHART FOR and WHAT LOCATION TO USE? Draw the chart for the time and place when and where the JYOTISHI RECEIVES the question/ email/ letter/ telephone. (Impregnation may be in Hawaii, but delivery may be in London! So make chart for ¡§birth in London¡¨). a/ Applying Parashari/Jaimini principles All general horoscopy principals as taught by Sage Parashara! The Parashari method, enlarged by Prithyushas in his Shatapanchsika has been the most widely practised technique by majority of Hindu astrologers for many centuries. The prashna horoscope is read just like a normal chart. Special importance is given to the signification (Karakatwa) of the Grahas and the Bhavas pertaining to the question. When we combine the common and familiar, logical characteristics of the Grahas together with the nature of the PRASHNA, we then begin to formulate a detailed picture - The Karakatwas enable us to decode the horoscope¡¦s hidden meanings. Karakatwa SUMMARY: Governance: Sun governs soul, Moon mind, Mars strength, Mercury speech, Jupiter knowledge and happiness, Venus pleasure and Saturn sorrow. Planetary Cabinet: Sun and Moon are considered Royal Planets. Mars is the Army Chief and Mercury the prince. Jupiter and Venus are Ministers whereas Saturn is the servant; Rahu and Ketu are soldiers of the army. Basic nature: Moon (waxing), Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are basically benefic. Sun, Moon (waning), Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are malefic by nature. Functional nature will depend on the houses rued by them, depending on the Lagna. Sex of Planets: Sun, Mars and Jupiter are considered Male. Moon and Venus are Female, whereas Saturn and Mercury are considered Neutral. Abodes: Sun signifies places of worship. Moon watery places like lakes, rivers. Mars fire places like kitchen/factory, Mercury sports grounds/markets. Jupiter treasures/banks, and Venus signifies places of pleasures like bedroom/hotels, and Saturn filthy places/rubbish tips. Gunas: Sun, Moon and Jupiter have Satwik gunas, Mars and Venus have Rajsik gunas and Mercury and Saturn have Tamasik gunas. E.G. how is my business partner? Strength of planets in a prashna chart will reflect the qualities of the person. Planetary Castes: Jupiter and Venus are Brahmins, Sun and Mars are Kshatriya, Moon and Mercury are Vaishya and Saturn belongs to Shudra Caste. Rahu+Ketu outcastes. Tatva: Planets are also associated with different tatvas/elements. Sun and Mars signify Agni, Moon and Venus Jala, Mercury Bhumi or earth, Jupiter Sky/ether and Saturn Vayu. Complexion: Different planets symbolize different colors. Sun symbolizes ¡§Raktashyama¡¨ i.e. red with black or Dark tint, Mars ¡§ Kujo rakto¡¨ i.e. blood red, Moon fair complexion, Mercury green, Jupiter orangey-brown yellow, Venus variegated or white; Saturn dark blue, Rahu black and Ketu variegated/multi-coloured. Physical Characteristics: Natives with Sun¡¦s influence on Lagna will be squarish and limited hair. Moon will have round face, beautiful eyes, and curly and short hair. Mars will have strong physique, red eyes and thin shining hair. Mercury will have an attractive physique. Jupiter will have large body, broad chest and big belly, honey eyes and hair. Venus has charming features, long hands, symmetrical limbs, beautiful, brilliant and broad eyes and curly hair. Saturn represents emaciated and long body, prominent veins, long nails, blackish color, depressed eyes and coarse hair. Personality: Sun¡¦s influence on personality makes the native manly, intelligent, sharp mind and clean habits. Moon makes a person fickle minded and lustful. Mars is cruel, stands for strength, courage, stamina and passion. Mercury is diplomatic, humorous and learned. Jupiter is knowledge and happiness, Venus is joyous, beautiful, poetic and intelligent and Saturn is lazy and lame, but if strong it can be mystic and philosophical. Speech/ Voice: Sun signifies Majestic voice, Moon sweet and soft, Mars forceful and clear, Mercury sweet, witty and Jupiter loud and clear. Body Ingredients: Sun controls Bones, Moon blood, Mars Marrow, Mercury skin, Jupiter fat, Venus semen and Saturn muscles. Any affliction of a planet may reflect in corresponding affliction on the native¡¦s body. Body Components: Sun and Mars represent Pitta, Jupiter and Venus Kapha, Moon and Saturn Vatta and Mercury represents all three. Afflictions would indicate the kind of illness and may help in recommending remedies. Periods: Planets are also associated with different periods. Saturn with Varsha, Sun with Ayna (half year), Mercury with Ritu (2 months), Jupiter Masa (month), Venus Paksha (15 days), Mars a day, Moon muhurta (48 minutes) and also Kshana (second), Rahu 8 months and Ketu 3 months. These periods are used to predict fructifications of events within a time span. Seasons: There are six seasons in a year each of 2 months:. Venus Vasant (spring, go out, travel and enjoy). Sun and Mars are associated with Grishma (summer, hot fierce quick activity). Moon with Varsha (rainy, calm, cool, balanced good work). Mercury Sharad (preparing for winter, new times, saving, storing harvest). Jupiter Hemant (getting the fruits of labour, joyous work) and Saturn with Shishira (winter, hard work in short-bursts, then rest long). Incarnations: Rama is the incarnation of Sun, Krishna of Moon, Narasimha of Mars, Buddha of Mercury, Vamana of Jupiter, Parshurama that of Venus, Koorma of Saturn, Varaha of Rahu and Matsya that of Ketu. Marana-Karka Sthana Bhavas in which the grahas lose their Karakatwa strength. Following are the Marna-Karka Sthanas for various planets. Planets in MKS will affect the significations of houses owned by them adversely during their dasha. Planet MKS Naisargika Karka for the house Sun 12 Saturn Moon 8 Saturn Mars 7 Venus Mercury 7 Venus Jupiter 3 Mars Venus 6 Mars Saturn 1 Sun Rahu 9 Jupiter Ketu - has no MKS Naisargika Karkas: Natural significations are used for general Phalita Jyotish. Houses too have their significations. Following list describes the significations for planets and houses. Sthira Karkas are included so as to show their association with respective houses. Sun: 1(self, soul, health), 5 (fame, power, paternal grandfather), 9 (father, boss), 10(career, achievement), 12(paternal grandmother) Moon: 1(mind), 4(mother and peace of mind), 7(maternal grandmother, 11(friends), 12(maternal grandfather, sleep) Mars: 3 (courage and siblings), 4 (land, real estate), 5(nyaya shashtra, speculation), 6(enemies, diseases, accidents, loans) Mercury: 2 (speech), 3(writing), 4 (formal education, learning), 5 (memory, scholarship), 6 (relatives), 7 (trade), 10(work, achievements, honors), 11(credits) Jupiter: 2(family, wealth), 4 (traditional learning, happiness), 5 (children, suns, knowledge, intelligence), 9 (dharma, bhagya, guru, diksha), 11 (elder brother, labha), 12(donation, heaven) Venus: 3(art), 4 (vehicles, luxuries), 5 (love, affection), 7(wife, husband, relationships, 9 (long distance travel), 12(sexual/ bed pleasures, long journeys, eyesight) Saturn: 5(followings), 6(service, servants, agriculture, physical pain), 8(longevity, disease), 9(past life), 12(losses, punishment, confinement, expenditure) Rahu: 6(accidents), 8(occult, destruction of mind, ill-fame, destruction of soul), 9(travel abroad, cause of rebirth), 12 (misfortune, bad habits, secret enemies) Ketu: 4 (home and building), 8 (occult, disease), 9 (spiritualism, travel abroad), 12(meditation, moksha) Apply the following mentioned principals and study thoroughly: The Moon is the seed, Lagna is the flower, Navamsa Lagna the fruit and the Bhava representing the subject-matter is the taste of the fruit. Hence it is of utmost importance to see that the Moon is not afflicted; otherwise there will be no sweet fruit to taste! The judgement should be sound, methodical and a total synthesis of the horoscope under scrutiny: „« Look at MOON placement, condition, its bhava lordship and its star lord - very important. It is the mana or MIND of the querent and will be reflected accurately in the horoscope if prashna is serious! Position of moon will indicate the agonies the native is suffering and worried about. „« The Lagna and Lagnesh rule the person asking the question and the question itself. First concentrate on the Lagna and Lagnesh, and then house concerned around which revolves the question (e.g. 2nd for money) and its lord (Karyesh). „« Is the rising sign Chara (moveable, activity, restless), Sthira (fixed, stable, persistence) or Dwishabhava (dual, wavering mind, confused)? Elements of signs (fiery, earthy, airy, watery)? How is it rising: Prishtodaya(-)Ar,Ta,Cn,Sg,Ca \ Sheershodaya(+) Ge,Le,Vi,Li,Sc,Aq, or Ubhayodaya(+/-)Pi? „« Are there benefics or malefics in Kendras, Trikonas, Dushsthanas, and Upachayas? And see their strengths (exalted/debilitated/combust)? „« Look at Aspects (malefic or benefic) on Bhava concerned, Lagna, Lagnesh, Moon, and their Dispositors. „« Consider the Raja-Yogas, Arishta-Yogas, Dhana-Yogas, etc.. See the Avasthas of all concerned planets especially Moon and Lagnesh. „« Look for Yoga-Karakas/ Atmakaraka/ Badhaka/ and the relevant Jaimini Chara Karaka and Sthira Karaka placement, aspects etc.. „« Strong 9th house/lord and 11th house/lord with benefic aspects etc., usually promises successful developments and fulfilment of desires. „« Also examine the Navamsha for final ¡§clinching¡¨, as this shows the real and subtle picture and will help you make your decision. (You could also go much deeper and use all other relevant Varga charts e.g. D-10, D-7,) „« Jaimini uses other special yogas, chara karakas, upa-grahas (gulika, mandi..) and various types of dashas. „« For TIMING use dashas/bhuktis, change from retrograde to direct and vice-versa, and special planetary periods (e.g. Sun = 6 months, Moon = 48 minutes muhurta, Mars = 1 day, Jupiter = 1 month, Saturn = 1 year) Some general principals/ indicators Lagna devoid of lagnesh aspect Lagna devoid of benefic aspect 25% chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Lagnesh unafflicted and aspected by /associated with one benefic. 50% chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result More than one benefic aspects lagna and/or lagnesh 75%(?) chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Waxing Moon unafflicted, Lagnesh unafflicted, Lagna aspected by its lord and benefics 100%(?) chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result Powerful malefic(s) in 7th house, and benefic in lagna 0%(?) chance of success - the querent will meet with defeat, opposite party will win. NOTE: **Many times you will find that the Lagna, or Moon sign or moon nakshatra at time of question reflects strongly the querent¡¦s actual birth chart! **If question about third party e.g. "Will my son get a job" ¡V the Prasna chart should be rotated in this case making the 5th the new Lagna. **There is a system of Daivajna Neelakanth for answering several questions at the same time: 1st? use rising Lagna; 2nd? Moon lagna; 3rd? Sun sign; 4th? from Jupiter¡K **Prashna chart normally valid for 1 year. Then the same question may be asked again? Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear Krishnan, This is precisely the point I've been trying to make. I don't deny Prashna is a valuable technique under the right circumstances but was it ever intended to (consistently) use prashna when advice has been sought by a native giving his/her correct birth chart... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:56 AM Re: Prashna principles and for any reason birth chart is not accessible and avaible,in ancient times prasna technique was resorted krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Moreshwar (?). You Wrote: >>Frequently used technique in ancient times, when birth times were >>not accurately recorded, or even known by most people.<< And this is the crux of it... is it not? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear Krishnanji I have been practicing and specialising in Prashna techniques for quite some years and hence was invited to give workshop on this subject. It is a very useful technique when you do not have accurate birth data, or the question is very specific like WHEN WILL MY LOST CHEQUE IN THE POST TURN UP? Just by chaqnce i came across this Group yesterday and today when I read the topic on this board I thought I would share with the members and add my 2 cents worth! **Every day I study jyotisha I am more and more in awe of the great seers and rushis of ancient India** Best regards, and may the Sapta Rushis bless us all. MORESHWAR ++++++++++++++++++ jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear Shri Moreshwar ji, > A very timely and illustrative that effaces all kinds of doubts.Absolutely forthright in:**Many times you will find that the Lagna, or Moon sign or moon nakshatra at time of question reflects strongly the querent¡¦s actual birth chart! > regards > krishnan > > > wise_moreshwar <silvertrine@a...> wrote: > Technique Details and Procedures > > > [1] Astrological ~ > casting of Horoscope > Three basic types of horoscope readings: > (a) PARASHARI/Jaimini* > (b) TAJAKA* > © KRISHNAMURTI PADDHATI [K.P.]* > > > Two issues that arise when creating a Prashna chart: WHAT TIME TO > DRAW THE CHART FOR and WHAT LOCATION TO USE? Draw the chart for the > time and place when and where the JYOTISHI RECEIVES the question/ > email/ letter/ telephone. (Impregnation may be in Hawaii, but > delivery may be in London! So make chart for ¡§birth in London¡¨). > > > a/ Applying Parashari/Jaimini principles > > All general horoscopy principals as taught by Sage Parashara! The > Parashari method, enlarged by Prithyushas in his Shatapanchsika has > been the most widely practised technique by majority of Hindu > astrologers for many centuries. The prashna horoscope is read just > like a normal chart. > > Special importance is given to the signification (Karakatwa) of the > Grahas and the Bhavas pertaining to the question. > > When we combine the common and familiar, logical characteristics of > the Grahas together with the nature of the PRASHNA, we then begin to > formulate a detailed picture - The Karakatwas enable us to decode > the horoscope¡¦s hidden meanings. > > Karakatwa SUMMARY: > > Governance: Sun governs soul, Moon mind, Mars strength, Mercury > speech, Jupiter knowledge and happiness, Venus pleasure and Saturn > sorrow. > > Planetary Cabinet: Sun and Moon are considered Royal Planets. Mars > is the Army Chief and Mercury the prince. Jupiter and Venus are > Ministers whereas Saturn is the servant; Rahu and Ketu are soldiers > of the army. > > Basic nature: Moon (waxing), Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are > basically benefic. Sun, Moon (waning), Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu > are malefic by nature. Functional nature will depend on the houses > rued by them, depending on the Lagna. > > Sex of Planets: Sun, Mars and Jupiter are considered Male. Moon and > Venus are Female, whereas Saturn and Mercury are considered Neutral. > > Abodes: Sun signifies places of worship. Moon watery places like > lakes, rivers. Mars fire places like kitchen/factory, Mercury sports > grounds/markets. Jupiter treasures/banks, and Venus signifies places > of pleasures like bedroom/hotels, and Saturn filthy places/rubbish > tips. > > Gunas: Sun, Moon and Jupiter have Satwik gunas, Mars and Venus have > Rajsik gunas and Mercury and Saturn have Tamasik gunas. E.G. how is > my business partner? Strength of planets in a prashna chart will > reflect the qualities of the person. > > Planetary Castes: Jupiter and Venus are Brahmins, Sun and Mars are > Kshatriya, Moon and Mercury are Vaishya and Saturn belongs to Shudra > Caste. Rahu+Ketu outcastes. > > Tatva: Planets are also associated with different tatvas/elements. > Sun and Mars signify Agni, Moon and Venus Jala, Mercury Bhumi or > earth, Jupiter Sky/ether and Saturn Vayu. > > Complexion: Different planets symbolize different colors. Sun > symbolizes ¡§Raktashyama¡¨ i.e. red with black or Dark tint, Mars ¡§ > Kujo rakto¡¨ i.e. blood red, Moon fair complexion, Mercury green, > Jupiter orangey-brown yellow, Venus variegated or white; Saturn dark > blue, Rahu black and Ketu variegated/multi-coloured. > > Physical Characteristics: Natives with Sun¡¦s influence on Lagna will > be squarish and limited hair. Moon will have round face, beautiful > eyes, and curly and short hair. Mars will have strong physique, red > eyes and thin shining hair. Mercury will have an attractive > physique. Jupiter will have large body, broad chest and big belly, > honey eyes and hair. Venus has charming features, long hands, > symmetrical limbs, beautiful, brilliant and broad eyes and curly > hair. Saturn represents emaciated and long body, prominent veins, > long nails, blackish color, depressed eyes and coarse hair. > > Personality: Sun¡¦s influence on personality makes the native manly, > intelligent, sharp mind and clean habits. Moon makes a person fickle > minded and lustful. Mars is cruel, stands for strength, courage, > stamina and passion. Mercury is diplomatic, humorous and learned. > Jupiter is knowledge and happiness, Venus is joyous, beautiful, > poetic and intelligent and Saturn is lazy and lame, but if strong it > can be mystic and philosophical. > > Speech/ Voice: Sun signifies Majestic voice, Moon sweet and soft, > Mars forceful and clear, Mercury sweet, witty and Jupiter loud and > clear. > > Body Ingredients: Sun controls Bones, Moon blood, Mars Marrow, > Mercury skin, Jupiter fat, Venus semen and Saturn muscles. Any > affliction of a planet may reflect in corresponding affliction on > the native¡¦s body. > > Body Components: Sun and Mars represent Pitta, Jupiter and Venus > Kapha, Moon and Saturn Vatta and Mercury represents all three. > Afflictions would indicate the kind of illness and may help in > recommending remedies. > > Periods: Planets are also associated with different periods. Saturn > with Varsha, Sun with Ayna (half year), Mercury with Ritu (2 > months), Jupiter Masa (month), Venus Paksha (15 days), Mars a day, > Moon muhurta (48 minutes) and also Kshana (second), Rahu 8 months > and Ketu 3 months. These periods are used to predict fructifications > of events within a time span. > > Seasons: There are six seasons in a year each of 2 months:. Venus > Vasant (spring, go out, travel and enjoy). Sun and Mars are > associated with Grishma (summer, hot fierce quick activity). Moon > with Varsha (rainy, calm, cool, balanced good work). Mercury Sharad > (preparing for winter, new times, saving, storing harvest). Jupiter > Hemant (getting the fruits of labour, joyous work) and Saturn with > Shishira (winter, hard work in short-bursts, then rest long). > > Incarnations: Rama is the incarnation of Sun, Krishna of Moon, > Narasimha of Mars, Buddha of Mercury, Vamana of Jupiter, Parshurama > that of Venus, Koorma of Saturn, Varaha of Rahu and Matsya that of > Ketu. > > Marana-Karka Sthana > > Bhavas in which the grahas lose their Karakatwa strength. Following > are the Marna-Karka Sthanas for various planets. Planets in MKS will > affect the significations of houses owned by them adversely during > their dasha. > > Planet MKS Naisargika Karka for the house > > Sun 12 Saturn > Moon 8 Saturn > Mars 7 Venus > Mercury 7 Venus > Jupiter 3 Mars > Venus 6 Mars > Saturn 1 Sun > Rahu 9 Jupiter > Ketu - has no MKS > Naisargika Karkas: Natural significations are used for general > Phalita Jyotish. Houses too have their significations. Following > list describes the significations for planets and houses. Sthira > Karkas are included so as to show their association with respective > houses. > > Sun: 1(self, soul, health), 5 (fame, power, paternal grandfather), 9 > (father, boss), 10(career, achievement), 12(paternal grandmother) > Moon: 1(mind), 4(mother and peace of mind), 7(maternal grandmother, > 11(friends), 12(maternal grandfather, sleep) > Mars: 3 (courage and siblings), 4 (land, real estate), 5(nyaya > shashtra, speculation), 6(enemies, diseases, accidents, loans) > Mercury: 2 (speech), 3(writing), 4 (formal education, learning), 5 > (memory, scholarship), 6 (relatives), 7 (trade), 10(work, > achievements, honors), 11(credits) > Jupiter: 2(family, wealth), 4 (traditional learning, happiness), 5 > (children, suns, knowledge, intelligence), 9 (dharma, bhagya, guru, > diksha), 11 (elder brother, labha), 12(donation, heaven) > Venus: 3(art), 4 (vehicles, luxuries), 5 (love, affection), 7 (wife, > husband, relationships, 9 (long distance travel), 12(sexual/ bed > pleasures, long journeys, eyesight) > Saturn: 5(followings), 6(service, servants, agriculture, physical > pain), 8(longevity, disease), 9(past life), 12(losses, punishment, > confinement, expenditure) > Rahu: 6(accidents), 8(occult, destruction of mind, ill-fame, > destruction of soul), 9(travel abroad, cause of rebirth), 12 > (misfortune, bad habits, secret enemies) > Ketu: 4 (home and building), 8 (occult, disease), 9 (spiritualism, > travel abroad), 12(meditation, moksha) > > > > Apply the following mentioned principals and study thoroughly: The Moon is the seed, Lagna is the flower, Navamsa Lagna the fruit > and the Bhava representing the subject-matter is the taste of the > fruit. Hence it is of utmost importance to see that the Moon is not > afflicted; otherwise there will be no sweet fruit to taste! > > > The judgement should be sound, methodical and a total synthesis of > the horoscope under scrutiny: > „« Look at MOON placement, condition, its bhava lordship and > its star lord - very important. It is the mana or MIND of the > querent and will be reflected accurately in the horoscope if prashna > is serious! Position of moon will indicate the agonies the native is > suffering and worried about. > > „« The Lagna and Lagnesh rule the person asking the question > and the question itself. First concentrate on the Lagna and Lagnesh, > and then house concerned around which revolves the question (e.g. > 2nd for money) and its lord (Karyesh). > > „« Is the rising sign Chara (moveable, activity, restless), > Sthira (fixed, stable, persistence) or Dwishabhava (dual, wavering > mind, confused)? Elements of signs (fiery, earthy, airy, watery)? > How is it rising: Prishtodaya(-)Ar,Ta,Cn,Sg,Ca \ Sheershodaya(+) > Ge,Le,Vi,Li,Sc,Aq, or Ubhayodaya(+/-)Pi? > > „« Are there benefics or malefics in Kendras, Trikonas, > Dushsthanas, and Upachayas? And see their strengths > (exalted/debilitated/combust)? > > „« Look at Aspects (malefic or benefic) on Bhava concerned, > Lagna, Lagnesh, Moon, and their Dispositors. > > „« Consider the Raja-Yogas, Arishta-Yogas, Dhana-Yogas, etc.. > See the Avasthas of all concerned planets especially Moon and > Lagnesh. > > „« Look for Yoga-Karakas/ Atmakaraka/ Badhaka/ and the relevant > Jaimini Chara Karaka and Sthira Karaka placement, aspects etc.. > > „« Strong 9th house/lord and 11th house/lord with benefic > aspects etc., usually promises successful developments and > fulfilment of desires. > > „« Also examine the Navamsha for final ¡§clinching¡¨, as this > shows the real and subtle picture and will help you make your > decision. (You could also go much deeper and use all other relevant > Varga charts e.g. D-10, D-7,) > > „« Jaimini uses other special yogas, chara karakas, upa- grahas > (gulika, mandi..) and various types of dashas. > > „« For TIMING use dashas/bhuktis, change from retrograde to > direct and vice-versa, and special planetary periods (e.g. Sun = 6 > months, Moon = 48 minutes muhurta, Mars = 1 day, Jupiter = 1 month, > Saturn = 1 year) > > > Some general principals/ indicators > > Lagna devoid of lagnesh aspect > Lagna devoid of benefic aspect 25% chance of succeeding objective, > or getting positive result > Lagnesh unafflicted and aspected by /associated with one benefic. > 50% chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive > result > More than one benefic aspects lagna and/or lagnesh 75%(?) > chance of succeeding objective, or getting positive result > Waxing Moon unafflicted, Lagnesh unafflicted, Lagna aspected by its > lord and benefics 100%(?) chance of succeeding objective, or > getting positive result > Powerful malefic(s) in 7th house, and benefic in lagna 0%(?) chance > of success - the querent will meet with defeat, opposite party will > win. > > > NOTE: > > **Many times you will find that the Lagna, or Moon sign or moon > nakshatra at time of question reflects strongly the querent¡¦s actual > birth chart! > > **If question about third party e.g. "Will my son get a job" ¡V the > Prasna chart should be rotated in this case making the 5th the new > Lagna. > > **There is a system of Daivajna Neelakanth for answering several > questions at the same time: 1st? use rising Lagna; 2nd? Moon lagna; > 3rd? Sun sign; 4th? from Jupiter¡K > > **Prashna chart normally valid for 1 year. Then the same question > may be asked again? > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of Service. > > > > Shopping > Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear mrs Wendy, Late BVRaman is categorical to say in his"Predictive Astrology".Hora Sastra otherwise Prashna Sastry is capable of revealing the position of palnets in the celestial whether needs of persons for day to day purpose can be fulfilled and also time is ripe or not.That is how in olden days Kings used services of Pandits to find the position of palnets with reference to the wish.This Hora Sastra does not need birth time.The birth time is the birth time of the wish/desire.The prinicples of Astrology can solve the riddle.It can be useful for every day purpose.we can use prasna with no limitations please. krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Krishnan, This is precisely the point I've been trying to make. I don't deny Prashna is a valuable technique under the right circumstances but was it ever intended to (consistently) use prashna when advice has been sought by a native giving his/her correct birth chart... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:56 AM Re: Prashna principles and for any reason birth chart is not accessible and avaible,in ancient times prasna technique was resorted krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Moreshwar (?). You Wrote: >>Frequently used technique in ancient times, when birth times were >>not accurately recorded, or even known by most people.<< And this is the crux of it... is it not? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Please send queries to the group- Not to me personally. ______________________________ Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Krishnan, You're perfectly free to favour prashna over birth chart if this is the way you wish to do things - this is your choice (reflected in your own horoscope). Everyone has their own way of practicing astrology and there are even those, as we know, who say the vargas are superior to Janma Kundali (for predictions) - this is people's choice! However I would be remiss if I didn't point out (to members) that, when birth chart is available, it should be the first preference. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:12 AM Re: Prashna principles Dear mrs Wendy, Late BVRaman is categorical to say in his"Predictive Astrology".Hora Sastra otherwise Prashna Sastry is capable of revealing the position of palnets in the celestial whether needs of persons for day to day purpose can be fulfilled and also time is ripe or not.That is how in olden days Kings used services of Pandits to find the position of palnets with reference to the wish.This Hora Sastra does not need birth time.The birth time is the birth time of the wish/desire.The prinicples of Astrology can solve the riddle.It can be useful for every day purpose.we can use prasna with no limitations please. krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear mrs Wendy, Iam afraid that the whole things is being misunderstood.Here I AM ONLY CONVEYING THE SIGNIFICANCE ATTCHED TO Prashna Chart and the purpose of Hora Sastra. Let me reaffirm I am stickler to conventional wisdom.I mean about birth Chart Importance,nothing else krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Krishnan, You're perfectly free to favour prashna over birth chart if this is the way you wish to do things - this is your choice (reflected in your own horoscope). Everyone has their own way of practicing astrology and there are even those, as we know, who say the vargas are superior to Janma Kundali (for predictions) - this is people's choice! However I would be remiss if I didn't point out (to members) that, when birth chart is available, it should be the first preference. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:12 AM Re: Prashna principles Dear mrs Wendy, Late BVRaman is categorical to say in his"Predictive Astrology".Hora Sastra otherwise Prashna Sastry is capable of revealing the position of palnets in the celestial whether needs of persons for day to day purpose can be fulfilled and also time is ripe or not.That is how in olden days Kings used services of Pandits to find the position of palnets with reference to the wish.This Hora Sastra does not need birth time.The birth time is the birth time of the wish/desire.The prinicples of Astrology can solve the riddle.It can be useful for every day purpose.we can use prasna with no limitations please. krishnan Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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