Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 A friend of mine lost her wallet, so I did a prasna chart for her today. Data is 25 NOV 2005 at 08.30 am in Galway Ireland. Ascendant Scorpio with 11th house ruler in Ascendant - would it be correct to say the wallet is still with her? I am not experienced in prasna charts, but I think 11th house is for lost objects? Am I correct in saying that? Now I also see that malefic Mars is also making an aspect at her ascendant, as well as to her Jupiter, 2nd lord of wealth - maybe she was robbed? What is the significator for thieves? Please could you supply some advice? As from what I can see, I would say her wallet is still in her possession because Mercury, 11th lord of lost objects is in her Ascendant, but I can also see it is combust and afflicted by Mars... Plus Jupiter, ruler of wealth (economy, money - she had her credit card, her money everything in her wallet) is in the 12th of loss... and also afflicted by Mars... Will she find her wallet? Was she robbed? She says she left it in the car, now I also see malefic Mars is aspecting Saturn, ruler of 4th of cars... If 6th house ruler is signifiactor for thieves, then this would make sense... Thank you for your comments, Rui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Shri Rui ji, The significance of the loss of wallet of your lady friend as per my prashna analysis is as under. The lagna lord in 6th in cancer sign in retrograde holds significance apart from 7th lord sun in 12th with mercury another retrograde planet but lord of 5th and 8th. Presence of venus in 11th in fiery sign in sun's nakshtra holds significance.This position indicates that the wallet was handed over by a stranger/also a helper type to a head/elder person with some quthority,say in the matter. Aspect of mars too makes clear that knowledge of security personnel. The nature of item is indicated by 11th lord jupiter as well as lord of 9th venus. There will be difficulties as well as problems in claiming back lost articles 'coz of retrograde planets chiefly lagna lord,4th lord and 6th lord. Hope for retrieval exists aspect of 9th lord venus on 6th as well as jupiter aspect on lagna. Atmakarak Venus in 8th and in the watery sign of mar's indicates dificulties in getting back from security personnel.It is lekely the issue may take at least 4-6 weeks.probably your friends relative who is also in acquaintence may be of help in retrieval of the lost article. In this case chora graha is 7th lord, sun in 10th in watery sign indicates it is kept in a place covered in some cloth,possibly green. If help of a relation like brother,uncle and an elder known person is obtained,the article can be retrieved with some effort. krishnan RPM <rupamede wrote: A friend of mine lost her wallet, so I did a prasna chart for her today. Data is 25 NOV 2005 at 08.30 am in Galway Ireland. Ascendant Scorpio with 11th house ruler in Ascendant - would it be correct to say the wallet is still with her? I am not experienced in prasna charts, but I think 11th house is for lost objects? Am I correct in saying that? Now I also see that malefic Mars is also making an aspect at her ascendant, as well as to her Jupiter, 2nd lord of wealth - maybe she was robbed? What is the significator for thieves? Please could you supply some advice? As from what I can see, I would say her wallet is still in her possession because Mercury, 11th lord of lost objects is in her Ascendant, but I can also see it is combust and afflicted by Mars... Plus Jupiter, ruler of wealth (economy, money - she had her credit card, her money everything in her wallet) is in the 12th of loss... and also afflicted by Mars... Will she find her wallet? Was she robbed? She says she left it in the car, now I also see malefic Mars is aspecting Saturn, ruler of 4th of cars... If 6th house ruler is signifiactor for thieves, then this would make sense... Thank you for your comments, Rui. Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear Rui and All, Although Prashna Kundali is a legitimate technique used when birth time is not available, I do feel it's over utilised today whilst Gochara(transits) in conjunction with dasa periods is under-utilised. There are many instances, even today, where a person does not know the time of birth and in some cases EVEN THE DATE is uncertain, and it's here that Prashna comes into its own and can be used to answer a particular question where otherwise it would not be possible... Parashara makes this clear in the following slokas. Ch. 78. Lost Horoscopy "1-2. Maitreya said. O Sage! You have so far described the auspicious and inauspicious effects to be enjoyed, or suffered by a person on the basis of the time of birth, but can the auspicious and inauspicious be ascertained, when the time of birth is not known? Kindly tell me, if there is any way to solve this problem. 3-4. The Sage said. Your question is a good one and is for the benefit of the world at large. Considering your attachment, I will tell you about this problem also. If any, or all amongst the Samvatsar, Ayana, Ritu, month, Paksha, Tithi, Nakshatra, Lagna, Rasi, or Amsas etc. of the birth are not known, these can be ascertained from Prasna Lagna (Query chart)." Prashna is, as we know, the transit(gochara) chart drawn for the time a question is presented to the astrologer... It's a tool the astrologer can use when, due to lack of accurate birth chart, he can consult the grahas on behalf of the native PROVIDING THE PROPER CRITERIA IS MET...and this is important! Casting a Prashna chart is a very profound interaction between the querist and the astrologer who needs to be able to observe many things i.e; the signs coming from the environment, the countenance of the querist and so forth. That unique moment that exists between the two (astrologer and querist) is the basis of Prashna Kundali - that moment, the sages tell us, is as unique and profound as the moment of birth which gives rise to Janma Kundali. Like most things in this age of (impersonal) internet communications, Prashna is devoid of the very thing that makes it unique. I do believe that, in this environment of impersonal internet communications, gochara in conjunction with birth chart should be used whenever possible.. simply because, although (again) not ideal, both the astrologer and the transiting grahas have a strong connection with the native through the birth chart. Of course the most subtle interaction, required for a good reading is still lacking, but this is not so vital (perhaps) as the interaction needed for casting prashna. It's okay, I feel, for astrology students to practice their skills and gain experience in applying the rules of jyotish to given charts on these discussion groups, so long as the owner of the chart is aware that this is what's happening. I really don't like the way the groups have evolved... where once they were a place for "discussion" they have now evolved pretty much into guru promoting, politically orientated forums (Oh! yes, there are politics within every community, unfortunately, and very strong amongst the jyotish community). Only a very small percent of members today (on any group) actually participate in discussions, either to learn or to share their knowledge with others; the rest either sit patiently in the background waiting for a discussion (from which they might learn something) or have joined only to get a reading of their horoscope... usually they go away dissatisfied and look for a reading on other groups. I remember clearly someone saying (back on the old group) that many experienced astrologers (on the group) stayed in the background, preferring not to speak... I was astounded! Not so today because I've come to accept that this is simply the way it is. The point to my grievous complaints is that I feel now I've probably had enough and it's time I took a break from the (constant) stress that has become part and parcel of maintaining such a group. I've done it long enough and had so many sleepless nights that chronic insomnia has become the norm. I'm now going to step back from it all for awhile and enjoy some stress-free living if I can. The group will remain for those who wish to use it... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Friday, November 25, 2005 6:50 PM lost wallet - please advise A friend of mine lost her wallet, so I did a prasna chart for her today. Data is 25 NOV 2005 at 08.30 am in Galway Ireland. Ascendant Scorpio with 11th house ruler in Ascendant - would it be correct to say the wallet is still with her? I am not experienced in prasna charts, but I think 11th house is for lost objects? Am I correct in saying that? Now I also see that malefic Mars is also making an aspect at her ascendant, as well as to her Jupiter, 2nd lord of wealth - maybe she was robbed? What is the significator for thieves? Please could you supply some advice? As from what I can see, I would say her wallet is still in her possession because Mercury, 11th lord of lost objects is in her Ascendant, but I can also see it is combust and afflicted by Mars... Plus Jupiter, ruler of wealth (economy, money - she had her credit card, her money everything in her wallet) is in the 12th of loss... and also afflicted by Mars... Will she find her wallet? Was she robbed? She says she left it in the car, now I also see malefic Mars is aspecting Saturn, ruler of 4th of cars... If 6th house ruler is signifiactor for thieves, then this would make sense... Thank you for your comments, Rui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear Mrs wendy, Being a very senior member, the concern shown in the following lines pose a question on the standards and quality of the issues raised as well as the members enthu indicated in participation of discussion We have always respected Mrs Wendy for her words of wisdom and forbearence with junior members.But then,some kind of generalisation coming out of the posting needs an inward look for one and all sincere in extending their counsel. "Gochara(transits) in conjunction with dasa periods is under-utilised" Anyway,some how Iam finding it difficult to pallet as analysis of dasa always made keeping in view the gochara.is some body also raise oncern in the said analysis tajik aspects,I do not think this effort was reflected as subdued. The other issue pointed out need further consideration as the topics time and again are mostly repetitive and not in the taste of larger section. Added to this some members do not really hesitate to take advantage for their own personal motives.May be in this context the observation looks some what can be moderated. "the rest either sit patiently in the background waiting for a discussion (from which they might learn something) or have joined only to get a reading of their horoscope..." We all wish and opine that these remarks just momentary and wise counsel will continued for the benifit of group.Effort however is required to remove sincerely such impressions. regards krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Rui and All, Although Prashna Kundali is a legitimate technique used when birth time is not available, I do feel it's over utilised today whilst Gochara(transits) in conjunction with dasa periods is under-utilised. There are many instances, even today, where a person does not know the time of birth and in some cases EVEN THE DATE is uncertain, and it's here that Prashna comes into its own and can be used to answer a particular question where otherwise it would not be possible... Parashara makes this clear in the following slokas. Ch. 78. Lost Horoscopy "1-2. Maitreya said. O Sage! You have so far described the auspicious and inauspicious effects to be enjoyed, or suffered by a person on the basis of the time of birth, but can the auspicious and inauspicious be ascertained, when the time of birth is not known? Kindly tell me, if there is any way to solve this problem. 3-4. The Sage said. Your question is a good one and is for the benefit of the world at large. Considering your attachment, I will tell you about this problem also. If any, or all amongst the Samvatsar, Ayana, Ritu, month, Paksha, Tithi, Nakshatra, Lagna, Rasi, or Amsas etc. of the birth are not known, these can be ascertained from Prasna Lagna (Query chart)." Prashna is, as we know, the transit(gochara) chart drawn for the time a question is presented to the astrologer... It's a tool the astrologer can use when, due to lack of accurate birth chart, he can consult the grahas on behalf of the native PROVIDING THE PROPER CRITERIA IS MET...and this is important! Casting a Prashna chart is a very profound interaction between the querist and the astrologer who needs to be able to observe many things i.e; the signs coming from the environment, the countenance of the querist and so forth. That unique moment that exists between the two (astrologer and querist) is the basis of Prashna Kundali - that moment, the sages tell us, is as unique and profound as the moment of birth which gives rise to Janma Kundali. Like most things in this age of (impersonal) internet communications, Prashna is devoid of the very thing that makes it unique. I do believe that, in this environment of impersonal internet communications, gochara in conjunction with birth chart should be used whenever possible.. simply because, although (again) not ideal, both the astrologer and the transiting grahas have a strong connection with the native through the birth chart. Of course the most subtle interaction, required for a good reading is still lacking, but this is not so vital (perhaps) as the interaction needed for casting prashna. It's okay, I feel, for astrology students to practice their skills and gain experience in applying the rules of jyotish to given charts on these discussion groups, so long as the owner of the chart is aware that this is what's happening. I really don't like the way the groups have evolved... where once they were a place for "discussion" they have now evolved pretty much into guru promoting, politically orientated forums (Oh! yes, there are politics within every community, unfortunately, and very strong amongst the jyotish community). Only a very small percent of members today (on any group) actually participate in discussions, either to learn or to share their knowledge with others; the rest either sit patiently in the background waiting for a discussion (from which they might learn something) or have joined only to get a reading of their horoscope... usually they go away dissatisfied and look for a reading on other groups. I remember clearly someone saying (back on the old group) that many experienced astrologers (on the group) stayed in the background, preferring not to speak... I was astounded! Not so today because I've come to accept that this is simply the way it is. The point to my grievous complaints is that I feel now I've probably had enough and it's time I took a break from the (constant) stress that has become part and parcel of maintaining such a group. I've done it long enough and had so many sleepless nights that chronic insomnia has become the norm. I'm now going to step back from it all for awhile and enjoy some stress-free living if I can. The group will remain for those who wish to use it... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Friday, November 25, 2005 6:50 PM lost wallet - please advise A friend of mine lost her wallet, so I did a prasna chart for her today. Data is 25 NOV 2005 at 08.30 am in Galway Ireland. Ascendant Scorpio with 11th house ruler in Ascendant - would it be correct to say the wallet is still with her? I am not experienced in prasna charts, but I think 11th house is for lost objects? Am I correct in saying that? Now I also see that malefic Mars is also making an aspect at her ascendant, as well as to her Jupiter, 2nd lord of wealth - maybe she was robbed? What is the significator for thieves? Please could you supply some advice? As from what I can see, I would say her wallet is still in her possession because Mercury, 11th lord of lost objects is in her Ascendant, but I can also see it is combust and afflicted by Mars... Plus Jupiter, ruler of wealth (economy, money - she had her credit card, her money everything in her wallet) is in the 12th of loss... and also afflicted by Mars... Will she find her wallet? Was she robbed? She says she left it in the car, now I also see malefic Mars is aspecting Saturn, ruler of 4th of cars... If 6th house ruler is signifiactor for thieves, then this would make sense... Thank you for your comments, Rui. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. 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Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear Mrs Wendy and all, I totally agree with you, not that I have studied the matter in question as well as you have, but I do agree that prasna charts should only be cast when the natal chart cannot be used... And that is what has happened since this girl has no clue what time she was born. Actually, if we look at this prasna chart, cast for 8.30, we will see that 2nd house lord of wealth is in 12th house of loss, afflicted by Mars (a close aspect) - I believe I was wrong in referring at first to the 11th lord for lost objects, I should have looked for 2nd lord of wealth... Mars ruler of 6th signifies thieves and since it is aspecting both the lagna and the 2nd lord, I am not surprised she has not found her wallet. As I said, I agree 100% with Mrs Wendy that maybe it is not "very scientific" (**my own words now**) to cast prasna charts, the same way I think that of Tarot or Angel Cards, because at the time of the readings people may be influenced by negative energies and that is why I chose to channel my energy towards Astrology, which I personally think is actually a Science... However all the **few prasna charts that I have cast till now have been quite accurate... Kind regards, Rui. Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Rui and All, Although Prashna Kundali is a legitimate technique used when birth time is not available, I do feel it's over utilised today whilst Gochara(transits) in conjunction with dasa periods is under-utilised. There are many instances, even today, where a person does not know the time of birth and in some cases EVEN THE DATE is uncertain, and it's here that Prashna comes into its own and can be used to answer a particular question where otherwise it would not be possible... Parashara makes this clear in the following slokas. Ch. 78. Lost Horoscopy "1-2. Maitreya said. O Sage! You have so far described the auspicious and inauspicious effects to be enjoyed, or suffered by a person on the basis of the time of birth, but can the auspicious and inauspicious be ascertained, when the time of birth is not known? Kindly tell me, if there is any way to solve this problem. 3-4. The Sage said. Your question is a good one and is for the benefit of the world at large. Considering your attachment, I will tell you about this problem also. If any, or all amongst the Samvatsar, Ayana, Ritu, month, Paksha, Tithi, Nakshatra, Lagna, Rasi, or Amsas etc. of the birth are not known, these can be ascertained from Prasna Lagna (Query chart)." Prashna is, as we know, the transit(gochara) chart drawn for the time a question is presented to the astrologer... It's a tool the astrologer can use when, due to lack of accurate birth chart, he can consult the grahas on behalf of the native PROVIDING THE PROPER CRITERIA IS MET...and this is important! Casting a Prashna chart is a very profound interaction between the querist and the astrologer who needs to be able to observe many things i.e; the signs coming from the environment, the countenance of the querist and so forth. That unique moment that exists between the two (astrologer and querist) is the basis of Prashna Kundali - that moment, the sages tell us, is as unique and profound as the moment of birth which gives rise to Janma Kundali. Like most things in this age of (impersonal) internet communications, Prashna is devoid of the very thing that makes it unique. I do believe that, in this environment of impersonal internet communications, gochara in conjunction with birth chart should be used whenever possible.. simply because, although (again) not ideal, both the astrologer and the transiting grahas have a strong connection with the native through the birth chart. Of course the most subtle interaction, required for a good reading is still lacking, but this is not so vital (perhaps) as the interaction needed for casting prashna. It's okay, I feel, for astrology students to practice their skills and gain experience in applying the rules of jyotish to given charts on these discussion groups, so long as the owner of the chart is aware that this is what's happening. I really don't like the way the groups have evolved... where once they were a place for "discussion" they have now evolved pretty much into guru promoting, politically orientated forums (Oh! yes, there are politics within every community, unfortunately, and very strong amongst the jyotish community). Only a very small percent of members today (on any group) actually participate in discussions, either to learn or to share their knowledge with others; the rest either sit patiently in the background waiting for a discussion (from which they might learn something) or have joined only to get a reading of their horoscope... usually they go away dissatisfied and look for a reading on other groups. I remember clearly someone saying (back on the old group) that many experienced astrologers (on the group) stayed in the background, preferring not to speak... I was astounded! Not so today because I've come to accept that this is simply the way it is. The point to my grievous complaints is that I feel now I've probably had enough and it's time I took a break from the (constant) stress that has become part and parcel of maintaining such a group. I've done it long enough and had so many sleepless nights that chronic insomnia has become the norm. I'm now going to step back from it all for awhile and enjoy some stress-free living if I can. The group will remain for those who wish to use it... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Friday, November 25, 2005 6:50 PM lost wallet - please advise A friend of mine lost her wallet, so I did a prasna chart for her today. Data is 25 NOV 2005 at 08.30 am in Galway Ireland. Ascendant Scorpio with 11th house ruler in Ascendant - would it be correct to say the wallet is still with her? I am not experienced in prasna charts, but I think 11th house is for lost objects? Am I correct in saying that? Now I also see that malefic Mars is also making an aspect at her ascendant, as well as to her Jupiter, 2nd lord of wealth - maybe she was robbed? What is the significator for thieves? Please could you supply some advice? As from what I can see, I would say her wallet is still in her possession because Mercury, 11th lord of lost objects is in her Ascendant, but I can also see it is combust and afflicted by Mars... Plus Jupiter, ruler of wealth (economy, money - she had her credit card, her money everything in her wallet) is in the 12th of loss... and also afflicted by Mars... Will she find her wallet? Was she robbed? She says she left it in the car, now I also see malefic Mars is aspecting Saturn, ruler of 4th of cars... If 6th house ruler is signifiactor for thieves, then this would make sense... Thank you for your comments, Rui. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Model Search - Could you be the next catwalk superstar? 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Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear friends, Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. This is my personal opinion. Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to get his article again. C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: >>>I remember clearly someone saying (back on the old group) that many experienced astrologers (on the group) stayed in the background, preferring not to speak... I was astounded! Not so today because I've come to accept that this is simply the way it is. The point to my grievous complaints is that I feel now I've probably had enough and it's time I took a break from the (constant) stress that has become part and parcel of maintaining such a group. I've done it long enough and had so many sleepless nights that chronic insomnia has become the norm. I'm now going to step back from it all for awhile and enjoy some stress-free living if I can. The group will remain for those who wish to use it...>>>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy, kindly take some rest at the moment. When you really feel free and fell write something, then please do so. Nothing should be done under compulstion. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear ravindramani It is as you say, the wallet was never found. I can now confirm this. Regards, Rui. Dear friends, Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. This is my personal opinion. Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to get his article again. C.S. Ravindramani. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Win a Vespa NEW - Cars has 3 Vespa LX125s to be won Enter Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Dear Rui, My apologies! I'm afraid I was a little short on patience at the time of writing that mail. As I'm sure you know, Western astrology has much success (also) predicting with transits only. However the sages, in their wisdom, have laid down certain parameters for casting Prashna chart, which are in fact similar in many ways to the parameters for casting Natal chart. I know myself that casting the birth chart in the presence of the native cannot be compared to reading a chart over the internet where the personal connection, which sharpens the intuition of the astrologer, is missing. This is such a vital element... I can't begin to tell you :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:35 PM Re: lost wallet - please advise Dear Mrs Wendy and all, I totally agree with you, not that I have studied the matter in question as well as you have, but I do agree that prasna charts should only be cast when the natal chart cannot be used... And that is what has happened since this girl has no clue what time she was born. Actually, if we look at this prasna chart, cast for 8.30, we will see that 2nd house lord of wealth is in 12th house of loss, afflicted by Mars (a close aspect) - I believe I was wrong in referring at first to the 11th lord for lost objects, I should have looked for 2nd lord of wealth... Mars ruler of 6th signifies thieves and since it is aspecting both the lagna and the 2nd lord, I am not surprised she has not found her wallet. As I said, I agree 100% with Mrs Wendy that maybe it is not "very scientific" (**my own words now**) to cast prasna charts, the same way I think that of Tarot or Angel Cards, because at the time of the readings people may be influenced by negative energies and that is why I chose to channel my energy towards Astrology, which I personally think is actually a Science... However all the **few prasna charts that I have cast till now have been quite accurate... Kind regards, Rui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Dear Ravindramani, Your message is appreciated :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "ravindramani" <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya> Monday, November 28, 2005 2:44 PM Re: lost wallet - please advise Dear Mrs. Wendy, kindly take some rest at the moment. When you really feel free and fell write something, then please do so. Nothing should be done under compulstion. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 sir, Thanx for the clarity provided regarding when to use prasna.But the prediction arrived was based on the natal chart:"the owner is not going to get his article again." regards krishnan ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear friends, Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. This is my personal opinion. Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to get his article again. C.S. Ravindramani. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Dear Friends, No natal chart was provided. She got her wallet back today. An old woman (Saturn) found it. Thanks, Rui. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: sir, Thanx for the clarity provided regarding when to use prasna.But the prediction arrived was based on the natal chart:"the owner is not going to get his article again." regards krishnan ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear friends, Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. This is my personal opinion. Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to get his article again. C.S. Ravindramani. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Dear Mr Rui and others. will you mind to trace my reading with reference to:old woman (Saturn) found it. Let's us not express in harsh and fury what sages have in those days of sublime nature when every thing was meant only to advance intellectual capacities.sur we as humans certainly have limitations in our situations changing from time to time from due to births and deaths Somehow I would like to plead and request to try also efficacy of prasna in times of need.may not be correct to dump it.Pl give trial. Thanx to mr Rui for his kind gesture to inform pl regards krishnan RPM <rupamede wrote: Dear Friends, No natal chart was provided. She got her wallet back today. An old woman (Saturn) found it. Thanks, Rui. vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: sir, Thanx for the clarity provided regarding when to use prasna.But the prediction arrived was based on the natal chart:"the owner is not going to get his article again." regards krishnan ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear friends, Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. This is my personal opinion. Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to get his article again. C.S. Ravindramani. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Dear Rui, ( I dont know you are a male or a female ) Thanx for the feed back. Has she got everything she kept inside the wallet.... just curious to know..... My conclusion was based on the prashna chart only. Thanx once again for the feed back... Best wishs, C.S. Ravindramani. ============================================================= jyotish-vidya, RPM <rupamede> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > No natal chart was provided. > She got her wallet back today. An old woman (Saturn) found it. > Thanks, Rui. > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > sir, > Thanx for the clarity provided regarding when to use prasna.But the prediction arrived was based on the natal chart:"the owner is not going to > get his article again." > regards > krishnan > > > ravindramani <ravindramani> wrote: > Dear friends, > > Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels > are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other > modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. > > This is my personal opinion. > > Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to > get his article again. > > C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of Service. > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > > jyotish-vidya > > Terms of Service. > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Dear Mr. Krishnan, I came to the conclusion "the owner is not going to get his article again" based on prashna techniques only. I have been observing certain points/factors when I go through "Chor Prashnas" or "loss of articles". They are my own observations. They can't be claimed as unfailing rules; they are mere observations. That observation has not worked on this chart. I always open to change or modify those observations when they sufficiently fail. My conclusion went wrong. I dont worry about that. It does not mean "prashna techniques are not working". It means "my understanding is lacking" and "I have not used the technique in right perspective or I am not able to apply those rules properly". I would really go through that chart once again leisurely (the prashna chart which is at issue presently). I have no intention to underestimate the validity or the efficacy of Prashna. The sages clearly laid down certain rules when prashna technique is to be used or one is resorted to. My point was restricted to that only. Of course, Prashna gives splendid results and it has got its own limitations too. One should keep this in mind when one is resorting to that technique. This is what I meant when I wrote that my message. No offence intended to any. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > > sir, > Thanx for the clarity provided regarding when to use prasna.But the prediction arrived was based on the natal chart:"the owner is not going to > get his article again." > regards > krishnan > > > ravindramani <ravindramani> wrote: > Dear friends, > > Prashna technique is to be used very sparingly when all other channels > are exhausted. Questions through Internet, FAX and through other > modern gadgets defeat the very purpose of Prashana. > > This is my personal opinion. > > Still in the instant case, I am of the view, the owner is not going to > get his article again. > > C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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