Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Respected members, Indeed it is a difficult chart, I too compliment and appreciate Jiger and Rui for giving their valuable views. My Motto is to learn by going through difficult chart though every new chart is challenging. In jan-march 2000 issue of Journal of Astrology a research was publiched related to father. They found the following points are not good for the well being of father after doing research on large number of samples:- 1)Affliction to sun. 2)Affliction to the dispositor to sun. 3)Affliction to the 9th house and 9th lord from lagna -kundli.(look!! what you are saying) 4)Affliction to the 10th house and 10th lord from Surya-kundli. Now more information about father of the child (just for research) Her grandfather has four children in which her father is eldest. Her father always wanted to do his independent work but grandfather forced him to involved in his business as he was alone and business was expanding (Manufacturing). He has never done any hard physical work and administered 40-50 persons. Due to some govt. policy changes ,his business got effected and uncontrollable losses began. After the birth of this girl, he had controll over lossess by time and trying hard to resettle his industry and he want to restart his factory in smaller way. I am suggesting him to do business which have long-distance connection either in home country or overseas due to Mercury mahadasa of his daughter and looking at D-12. More views in this regard are welcome. thanks. Vijay - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:49 AM Vijay - about girl's father wealth too > Dear Vijay, > > Taking the 9th as the Ascendant then the ruler of house of wealth (as you also asked about wealth) > would be Mars. Mars is weak because dispositor Saturn is weak in Gemini but Mars is aspecting > Aries, so it will protect its significations. This is a benefic aspect that will give good results > during its dasha subperiods probably from December 2005 to December 2006, but you will let us know > in 2006... Transit of Mars in Aries should trigger this anyway too, so if my reading is correct it > should happen that his financial situation should improve in 2006. > Looking at 6th house of jobs from the same 9th house, ruler is Sun, who is exalted with Mercury in > the house of wealth and family - maybe he will get a job within his family? The Sun is now > transiting Libra, making a direct aspect on this girl's natal Sun! Should this not be a good sign? > Then 10th lord, Jupiter, is also making an aspect at the 2nd house - bad aspect bad still... > > Now, if you look from the 10th instead of the 9th, 2nd of wealth is Taurus and unfortunately ruler > Venus is in 12th... Only good signification for wealth is exalted Jupiter on 4th house (kendra). > Then, Mercury, ruler of 6th is combust and 10th ruler Saturn is very weak... > > If I knew how I would look into the divisional charts because I know there you can also find one > for parents, but I am not sure how to interpret those yet... Maybe another of our members might be > interested in doing that??? > > Regards, Rui. > > > --- RPM <rupamede wrote: > > > Dear Vijay and Jiger, > > I can understand our members hesitation on commenting on this because > > it is rather complicated, and I compliment Jiger on his try and I will > > give now my own try... > > The father is seen from the Sun and Jupiter as well as the 9th or the > > 10th house (depending on which school of thougth you follow). Believe > > me, in many cases, both readings can be correct. > > In this case, the Sun is exalted in the 10th and conjunct Mercury. > > This may indicate her father would be a person who does not like > > physical work, but intellectual work in an office might suit him, > > especially if it was for the government, living abroad due to being > > placed in the 10th. But the problem here is that the Sun is actually > > not that strong because it is in degree 24.18 (more than 5 degrees > > away from the degree of exaltation) and the girl will not be doing the > > Sun dasha until 2041. However she is now doing the Mercury dasha, so > > there is a possibility that in 2016 during the Sun Buhkti, her father > > may get a job abroad, working for the government... > > Now, looking at Jupiter, who seems to be stronger, we see Jupiter is > > in the 1st house, so it is with the girl, but because it is the 6th > > lord, it is not doing her any good, so her relationship with Jupiter > > is not great because it will bring her disease - it is possible she > > may have inherited some disease from her father? Anyway, Jupiter is > > aspected by Mars, but this Mars, although exalted, is weak because its > > dispositor Saturn is weak, so Mars's influence over Jupiter is to > > curtail its energy, especially because Mars is aspecting the sign of > > Cancer, which is the sign of its debilitation... > > Overall, only looking at the girl's chart, good news is Mercury dasha > > may bring him a job in 2016. Another reason why I think there is a > > possibility of a job during the Mercury/Sun period is because Virgo is > > 6th (house of jobs) from Aries and Mercury rules Virgo. > > Her 8th lord Saturn now transiting her her Ascendant should be > > affecting her health and it is not be a good time for great jumps, but > > for meditation and reflexive thoughts, but of course you could hardly > > say this to a 2 year old!!! ;-) > > If you could tell us if the girl's father is her grandfather's first > > and only son then I could analyze from the grandfather's chart as > > well, but if he is the 2nd son or 3rd son, then we should not be > > looking at the grandfather's 5th house, so we have to know... > > Kind regards, Rui. > > > > jyotish-vidya, "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Regs jiger, > > > > > > First Thanks for reading the chart. > > > > > > But i have few doubt\controversy in ur explanation. > > > > > > You have consider 9th house as father though i consider 10th house for > > > father more relevant, Mrs. Wendy also support this in her site and many > > > others . > > > > > > U said.... > > > > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing > > the uccha > > > bhang > > > > Uccha bhang of above nature is not known to me though i have read > > for neech > > > bangh from kendre from moon or dispositer.(Uccha bhang does comes if > > planet > > > come in relation with chidra planet here is not this case). > > > > > > > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests > > prsenece of un > > > peace full pirtu of soul in the house > > > > D-12 lagna comes to be makar (capricon) hence rahu ketu axis in 1/7. > > ( i use > > > lahiri ayanansha). > > > > > > You have not worked in any dasa system for this chart. > > > > > > If good wealth is indicated for the girl than when and is there no > > chance of > > > fortune coming though her father as father will upbring her first > > before her > > > karma comes into force. > > > > > > I will again ask for Ms. Rui, Mrs. Wendy and other member to go > > through this > > > chart and provide their valuable views. > > > > > > Waiting.... > > > Vijay Goel. > > > - > > > "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...> > > > <jyotish-vidya> > > > Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM > > > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > > > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > > > > > > > two important matters I see here > > > > > > > > child will earn great wealth earn early and bu self efforts and > > will be > > > very religious person > > > > > > > > for father look at this chart with venus in ascend meena lagnam > > > > > > > > 10th from 9th work of father is aspected by saturn who is 12th > > lord as > > > well from 9th house > > > > > > > > so father will never be able to work hard to earn a living he is lazy > > > person by narure > > > > > > > > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing > > the uccha > > > bhang > > > > > > > > or cancelation of exaltation and jup aspect removes the > > aggressive nature > > > to pesrue the earning > > > > > > > > by what ever means > > > > > > > > father will suffer from chronic disease as well > > > > > > > > saturn is exalted in navams but if I an to look for divisional it > > is 12th > > > divisional where saturn is in cancer > > > > > > > > with ra and mars > > > > > > > > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests > > prsenece of un > > > peace full pirtu of soul in the house > > > > > > > > or a curse from deity or priest > > > > > > > > regs jiger > > > > - > > > > Vijay Goel<goyalvj@g...> > > > > To: > > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> > > > > Monday, November 07, 2005 12:04 PM > > > > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > > > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rui > > > > > > > > Actually i want to know about the career and financial position > > of the > > > > father of the girl whose horoscope is not available but to see > > through > > > > girl's horoscope or even with the help of grandfather chart. > > > > > > > > I am able to read the grandfather horoscope which shows the > > losses of > > > his > > > > business with my limited knowledge. (Saturn Vimshottary dasa in > > Cancer > > > > lagna). > > > > > > > > Girl's horoscope is very difficult for me to read. > > > > Secondly for me to judge father position from her horoscope is > > further > > > more > > > > difficult , though i am trying to improve my knowledge. > > > > > > > > Your views will be highly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > - > > > > "RPM" <rupamede> > > > > <jyotish-vidya> > > > > Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:10 PM > > > > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > > > > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vijay, > > > > > I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not > > understand it. > > > Could > > > > you please specify it > > > > > better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which > > chart do > > > you > > > > want us to have a look. > > > > > I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... > > Regards, > > > Rui. > > > > > --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven > > > planets > > > > exalted\owned, and out > > > > > > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts > > seems > > > to be > > > > very strong > > > > > > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa > > patterns is > > > === message truncated === > > > > > _________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday > snaps for FREE with Photos http://uk.photos. > > > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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