Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Respected Members, I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven planets exalted\owned, and out of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems to be very strong astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is also there.(It seems hard for me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter is in lagna in almost all divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of exalted planets states ,where all classics praises this combination. Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his birth town at his best period. Now his industry has came to an end few years back. Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying hard to settle business as he was ruin with his family business. Girl: DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 Grandfather : DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. There is no correct birth chart of his father. Please predict about the career\financially of his father. Thanks, With warm regards, Vijay Goel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hi Vijay, I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not understand it. Could you please specify it better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which chart do you want us to have a look. I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... Regards, Rui. --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Members, > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven planets exalted\owned, and out > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems to be very strong > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is also there.(It seems hard for > me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter is in lagna in almost all > divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of exalted planets states ,where all > classics praises this combination. > > Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his birth town at his best period. > Now his industry has came to an end few years back. > > Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying hard to settle business as > he was ruin with his family business. > > Girl: > DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. > Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 > Grandfather : > DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. > Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. > > There is no correct birth chart of his father. > > Please predict about the career\financially of his father. > Thanks, > > With warm regards, > Vijay Goel. > > > > > _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Respected Rui Actually i want to know about the career and financial position of the father of the girl whose horoscope is not available but to see through girl's horoscope or even with the help of grandfather chart. I am able to read the grandfather horoscope which shows the losses of his business with my limited knowledge. (Saturn Vimshottary dasa in Cancer lagna). Girl's horoscope is very difficult for me to read. Secondly for me to judge father position from her horoscope is further more difficult , though i am trying to improve my knowledge. Your views will be highly appreciated. Thanks for your consideration. Vijay - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:10 PM Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in navamsha, Please predit. > Hi Vijay, > I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not understand it. Could you please specify it > better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which chart do you want us to have a look. > I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... Regards, Rui. > --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote: > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven planets exalted\owned, and out > > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems to be very strong > > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is also there.(It seems hard for > > me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter is in lagna in almost all > > divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of exalted planets states ,where all > > classics praises this combination. > > > > Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his birth town at his best period. > > Now his industry has came to an end few years back. > > > > Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying hard to settle business as > > he was ruin with his family business. > > > > Girl: > > DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. > > Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 > > Grandfather : > > DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. > > Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. > > > > There is no correct birth chart of his father. > > > > Please predict about the career\financially of his father. > > Thanks, > > > > With warm regards, > > Vijay Goel. > > > > > > > > > > _________ > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. > > > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 two important matters I see here child will earn great wealth earn early and bu self efforts and will be very religious person for father look at this chart with venus in ascend meena lagnam 10th from 9th work of father is aspected by saturn who is 12th lord as well from 9th house so father will never be able to work hard to earn a living he is lazy person by narure again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing the uccha bhang or cancelation of exaltation and jup aspect removes the aggressive nature to pesrue the earning by what ever means father will suffer from chronic disease as well saturn is exalted in navams but if I an to look for divisional it is 12th divisional where saturn is in cancer with ra and mars rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests prsenece of un peace full pirtu of soul in the house or a curse from deity or priest regs jiger - Vijay Goel<goyalvj jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> Monday, November 07, 2005 12:04 PM Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in navamsha, Please predit. Respected Rui Actually i want to know about the career and financial position of the father of the girl whose horoscope is not available but to see through girl's horoscope or even with the help of grandfather chart. I am able to read the grandfather horoscope which shows the losses of his business with my limited knowledge. (Saturn Vimshottary dasa in Cancer lagna). Girl's horoscope is very difficult for me to read. Secondly for me to judge father position from her horoscope is further more difficult , though i am trying to improve my knowledge. Your views will be highly appreciated. Thanks for your consideration. Vijay - "RPM" <rupamede <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:10 PM Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in navamsha, Please predit. > Hi Vijay, > I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not understand it. Could you please specify it > better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which chart do you want us to have a look. > I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... Regards, Rui. > --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote: > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven planets exalted\owned, and out > > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems to be very strong > > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is also there.(It seems hard for > > me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter is in lagna in almost all > > divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of exalted planets states ,where all > > classics praises this combination. > > > > Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his birth town at his best period. > > Now his industry has came to an end few years back. > > > > Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying hard to settle business as > > he was ruin with his family business. > > > > Girl: > > DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. > > Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 > > Grandfather : > > DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. > > Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. > > > > There is no correct birth chart of his father. > > > > Please predict about the career\financially of his father. > > Thanks, > > > > With warm regards, > > Vijay Goel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.<http://uk.messenger./> > > > > > Links > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&c=1\ &s=21&.sig=UHLMW__OdoNR3BFIPFTjlg> a.. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>" on the web. b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Dear Regs jiger, First Thanks for reading the chart. But i have few doubt\controversy in ur explanation. You have consider 9th house as father though i consider 10th house for father more relevant, Mrs. Wendy also support this in her site and many others . U said.... > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing the uccha bhang > Uccha bhang of above nature is not known to me though i have read for neech bangh from kendre from moon or dispositer.(Uccha bhang does comes if planet come in relation with chidra planet here is not this case). > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests prsenece of un peace full pirtu of soul in the house > D-12 lagna comes to be makar (capricon) hence rahu ketu axis in 1/7. ( i use lahiri ayanansha). You have not worked in any dasa system for this chart. If good wealth is indicated for the girl than when and is there no chance of fortune coming though her father as father will upbring her first before her karma comes into force. I will again ask for Ms. Rui, Mrs. Wendy and other member to go through this chart and provide their valuable views. Waiting.... Vijay Goel. - "jiger shah" <jigershah <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in navamsha, Please predit. > two important matters I see here > > child will earn great wealth earn early and bu self efforts and will be very religious person > > for father look at this chart with venus in ascend meena lagnam > > 10th from 9th work of father is aspected by saturn who is 12th lord as well from 9th house > > so father will never be able to work hard to earn a living he is lazy person by narure > > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing the uccha bhang > > or cancelation of exaltation and jup aspect removes the aggressive nature to pesrue the earning > > by what ever means > > father will suffer from chronic disease as well > > saturn is exalted in navams but if I an to look for divisional it is 12th divisional where saturn is in cancer > > with ra and mars > > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests prsenece of un peace full pirtu of soul in the house > > or a curse from deity or priest > > regs jiger > - > Vijay Goel<goyalvj > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> > Monday, November 07, 2005 12:04 PM > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in navamsha, Please predit. > > > Respected Rui > > Actually i want to know about the career and financial position of the > father of the girl whose horoscope is not available but to see through > girl's horoscope or even with the help of grandfather chart. > > I am able to read the grandfather horoscope which shows the losses of his > business with my limited knowledge. (Saturn Vimshottary dasa in Cancer > lagna). > > Girl's horoscope is very difficult for me to read. > Secondly for me to judge father position from her horoscope is further more > difficult , though i am trying to improve my knowledge. > > Your views will be highly appreciated. > > Thanks for your consideration. > > Vijay > > - > "RPM" <rupamede > <jyotish-vidya> > Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:10 PM > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > Hi Vijay, > > I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not understand it. Could > you please specify it > > better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which chart do you > want us to have a look. > > I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... Regards, Rui. > > --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven planets > exalted\owned, and out > > > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems to be > very strong > > > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is also > there.(It seems hard for > > > me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter is in > lagna in almost all > > > divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of exalted > planets states ,where all > > > classics praises this combination. > > > > > > Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his birth > town at his best period. > > > Now his industry has came to an end few years back. > > > > > > Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying hard > to settle business as > > > he was ruin with his family business. > > > > > > Girl: > > > DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. > > > Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 > > > Grandfather : > > > DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. > > > Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. > > > > > > There is no correct birth chart of his father. > > > > > > Please predict about the career\financially of his father. > > > Thanks, > > > > > > With warm regards, > > > Vijay Goel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.<http://uk.messenger./> > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart &c=1&s=21&.sig=UHLMW__OdoNR3BFIPFTjlg> > > > -------- ---- > > > a.. 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Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dear Vijay and Jiger, I can understand our members hesitation on commenting on this because it is rather complicated, and I compliment Jiger on his try and I will give now my own try... The father is seen from the Sun and Jupiter as well as the 9th or the 10th house (depending on which school of thougth you follow). Believe me, in many cases, both readings can be correct. In this case, the Sun is exalted in the 10th and conjunct Mercury. This may indicate her father would be a person who does not like physical work, but intellectual work in an office might suit him, especially if it was for the government, living abroad due to being placed in the 10th. But the problem here is that the Sun is actually not that strong because it is in degree 24.18 (more than 5 degrees away from the degree of exaltation) and the girl will not be doing the Sun dasha until 2041. However she is now doing the Mercury dasha, so there is a possibility that in 2016 during the Sun Buhkti, her father may get a job abroad, working for the government... Now, looking at Jupiter, who seems to be stronger, we see Jupiter is in the 1st house, so it is with the girl, but because it is the 6th lord, it is not doing her any good, so her relationship with Jupiter is not great because it will bring her disease - it is possible she may have inherited some disease from her father? Anyway, Jupiter is aspected by Mars, but this Mars, although exalted, is weak because its dispositor Saturn is weak, so Mars's influence over Jupiter is to curtail its energy, especially because Mars is aspecting the sign of Cancer, which is the sign of its debilitation... Overall, only looking at the girl's chart, good news is Mercury dasha may bring him a job in 2016. Another reason why I think there is a possibility of a job during the Mercury/Sun period is because Virgo is 6th (house of jobs) from Aries and Mercury rules Virgo. Her 8th lord Saturn now transiting her her Ascendant should be affecting her health and it is not be a good time for great jumps, but for meditation and reflexive thoughts, but of course you could hardly say this to a 2 year old!!! ;-) If you could tell us if the girl's father is her grandfather's first and only son then I could analyze from the grandfather's chart as well, but if he is the 2nd son or 3rd son, then we should not be looking at the grandfather's 5th house, so we have to know... Kind regards, Rui. jyotish-vidya, "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@g...> wrote: > > Dear Regs jiger, > > First Thanks for reading the chart. > > But i have few doubt\controversy in ur explanation. > > You have consider 9th house as father though i consider 10th house for > father more relevant, Mrs. Wendy also support this in her site and many > others . > > U said.... > > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing the uccha > bhang > > Uccha bhang of above nature is not known to me though i have read for neech > bangh from kendre from moon or dispositer.(Uccha bhang does comes if planet > come in relation with chidra planet here is not this case). > > > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests prsenece of un > peace full pirtu of soul in the house > > D-12 lagna comes to be makar (capricon) hence rahu ketu axis in 1/7. ( i use > lahiri ayanansha). > > You have not worked in any dasa system for this chart. > > If good wealth is indicated for the girl than when and is there no chance of > fortune coming though her father as father will upbring her first before her > karma comes into force. > > I will again ask for Ms. Rui, Mrs. Wendy and other member to go through this > chart and provide their valuable views. > > Waiting.... > Vijay Goel. > - > "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...> > <jyotish-vidya> > Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > two important matters I see here > > > > child will earn great wealth earn early and bu self efforts and will be > very religious person > > > > for father look at this chart with venus in ascend meena lagnam > > > > 10th from 9th work of father is aspected by saturn who is 12th lord as > well from 9th house > > > > so father will never be able to work hard to earn a living he is lazy > person by narure > > > > again 9th lord and 2 lord mars is in kendre from moon causing the uccha > bhang > > > > or cancelation of exaltation and jup aspect removes the aggressive nature > to pesrue the earning > > > > by what ever means > > > > father will suffer from chronic disease as well > > > > saturn is exalted in navams but if I an to look for divisional it is 12th > divisional where saturn is in cancer > > > > with ra and mars > > > > rahu ke axis in 3/9 and in girls chart 5/11 suggests prsenece of un > peace full pirtu of soul in the house > > > > or a curse from deity or priest > > > > regs jiger > > - > > Vijay Goel<goyalvj@g...> > > To: jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> > > Monday, November 07, 2005 12:04 PM > > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > > > Respected Rui > > > > Actually i want to know about the career and financial position of the > > father of the girl whose horoscope is not available but to see through > > girl's horoscope or even with the help of grandfather chart. > > > > I am able to read the grandfather horoscope which shows the losses of > his > > business with my limited knowledge. (Saturn Vimshottary dasa in Cancer > > lagna). > > > > Girl's horoscope is very difficult for me to read. > > Secondly for me to judge father position from her horoscope is further > more > > difficult , though i am trying to improve my knowledge. > > > > Your views will be highly appreciated. > > > > Thanks for your consideration. > > > > Vijay > > > > - > > "RPM" <rupamede> > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:10 PM > > Re: Seven planets exalted\owned and one in > > navamsha, Please predit. > > > > > > > Hi Vijay, > > > I would like to have a go at your query, but I do not understand it. > Could > > you please specify it > > > better? You give data for girl and her grandfather, so which chart do > you > > want us to have a look. > > > I am sorry I did not understand, but I would like to help... Regards, > Rui. > > > --- Vijay Goel <goyalvj@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > I have a interesting chart (cancer asc.) of a girl who has seven > planets > > exalted\owned, and out > > > > of balance two,one is exalted in navamsha (scorpio) . Charts seems > to be > > very strong > > > > astrologically as proper sequence of Vimshomtary Dasa patterns is > also > > there.(It seems hard for > > > > me to read this chart ).One unique thing i have noted that Jupiter > is in > > lagna in almost all > > > > divisional Chart including natal lagna.What this long array of > exalted > > planets states ,where all > > > > classics praises this combination. > > > > > > > > Her grandfather is a industrialist and has donated a lot to his > birth > > town at his best period. > > > > Now his industry has came to an end few years back. > > > > > > > > Father of this girl is now Jobless, not earning anything and trying > hard > > to settle business as > > > > he was ruin with his family business. > > > > > > > > Girl: > > > > DOB may 9,2003, TOB 11.31 am, Jaipur Raj.India. > > > > Longitude 75E49'00 Latitude 26N55'00 > > > > Grandfather : > > > > DOB April 25,1946, TOB 11.41, Paota Distt Jaipur.India. > > > > Longitude 76E56'00 Latitude 26N58'00. > > > > > > > > There is no correct birth chart of his father. > > > > > > > > Please predict about the career\financially of his father. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > With warm regards, > > > > Vijay Goel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > > voicemail http://uk.messenger.<http://uk.messenger./> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology > chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart > &c=1&s=21&.sig=UHLMW__OdoNR3BFIPFTjlg> > > > > > > -------- > ---- > > > > > > a.. 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