Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi Krishnan Ji Thanks for reply. Taking case 1 : ===================== As per your explaination that even though saturn is in friendly nakshatra it will not behave positively-you cited various problems-about moon and its nakshatra;moon chart. Frankly could not understand much. I want to know how do I deduce whether saade sathi will be good OR bad for particular native. Can you please let me know the way/steps. How do we get hints regarding the behaviour of saturn and its effect. Particulars in this case are:- 1> Sat in Libra Sign *exalted* but retro 2> Sat is in Swati Nakshatra. 3> Moon is in chitra *ruled by mars* Mars is strong in the chart. 4>Moon is present in Virgo sign 5> Asc is Tauras I have read at many places that Saade sathi need not be bad for every1. Infact me it was good for educational purposes. Please reply. Thanks AG --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Angel ji, > Sade sati is transitory phenomena with reference to > moon sign.very fact sani is 2nd in natal chart from > moon the major effect in the first 2 and half years > will be worries and fears.Mainly these concern > inward about helath. > 8th from moon beung chara with exalted sun and moon > the native is totally a extravert and aspected by > retrograde ther is every possibility to be > hystirical too.Moon has no benific aspects.Sure that > it is in 5th in chitta around the same degrees as > lagna raising in moon's nakshtra associated with > venus.more of softness,feminine and very important > aspected by retrograde saturn.the first 2and half > years the life will be tumultous and in themiddle > 2nd half may be he /she can go in for some kind of > odd jobs insome kind of creative jobs including some > fine arts and gain some money.the last phase will > again be problems involve in family problems and > some court cases and financial problems.The native > needs care during the time and even some body has to > look after due to satur aspect on ketu.moola > nakshtra in 8th from lagna in a fierysign and dual > in nature.in any case he will not have peace from > family.What is important is dasa and the paryaya of > saturn plays vital role.Native may be around > 20-21 yrs? > the second case we will go through and find later > krishnan > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > Saturn is generally known to affect one adversely on > occasions when he occupies certain positions in > one's > horoscope like Saade Sati (7 1/2 years) Ashtama Sani > (Saturn in 8 Th house - 2 1/2 years) etc. > I want to analyse the effects of saade-sathi with > respect to the nakshatra in which saturn is present > in > the chart. > > Case 1:- > Case -1 Chart is something like:- > Asc----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sun----Aries(Mar)-----Ashwini(Ketu) > Mon----Virgo(Mer)-----Chitra(Mars) > Mar----Aries(Mar)-----Bharani(Venus) > Mer----Taurus(Ven)----Krittika(Sun) > Jup®--Scorpio(Mar)---Anuradha(Saturn) > Ven----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sat®-Libra(Ven)-----Swati(Rahu) > Rah®-Gemini(Mer)----Mrigasira(Mars) > Ket®-Sagitt(Jup)----Mula(Ketu) > > Saturn is in Swati Nakshatra *lord is rahu* and is > in > Libra Sign (exalted saturn). Since saturn is in > friend's house so Saade sathi might not be bad > experience. > Moon is in Chitra Nakshatra *lord is Mars which is > enemy of saturn* so some bad effects will be > experienced.Saturn is not aspected by sun,moon and > mars *all are his enemies*. > > Case 2:- > With the same chart,suppose Saturn is in Krittika > nakshatra *lord is Sun* and sun is enemy of saturn. > So > in this case even if saturn is present in Libra Sign > *saturn is exalted* it will not give good results. > > So, this is my first analysis on the basis of > nakshatra so I will expect comments. > > =================== > > > > many thanks > angel goel > =================== > > > > > ____ > > for Good > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store./redcross-donate3/ > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > jyotish-vidya > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite . Make > your home page > http://us.click./dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Dear All, Do we take the effect of sadesathi at nakshatra level? I used to think, correct me if I am wrong that sadesathi is to be taken at a sign level as it has to do with saturn's trasit aspect over natal moon's sign. For example say for sign Leo sade sathi is supposed to affect the native negatively irrespective of the fact that saturn may pass through,and the moon may be in the nakshatra of Purva phalguni which is owned by venus ( friend of Saturn) Best Regards Nilesh --- angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Krishnan Ji Thanks for reply. Taking case 1 : ===================== As per your explaination that even though saturn is in friendly nakshatra it will not behave positively-you cited various problems-about moon and its nakshatra;moon chart. Frankly could not understand much. I want to know how do I deduce whether saade sathi will be good OR bad for particular native. Can you please let me know the way/steps. How do we get hints regarding the behaviour of saturn and its effect. Particulars in this case are:- 1> Sat in Libra Sign *exalted* but retro 2> Sat is in Swati Nakshatra. 3> Moon is in chitra *ruled by mars* Mars is strong in the chart. 4>Moon is present in Virgo sign 5> Asc is Tauras I have read at many places that Saade sathi need not be bad for every1. Infact me it was good for educational purposes. Please reply. Thanks AG --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Angel ji, > Sade sati is transitory phenomena with reference to > moon sign.very fact sani is 2nd in natal chart from > moon the major effect in the first 2 and half years > will be worries and fears.Mainly these concern > inward about helath. > 8th from moon beung chara with exalted sun and moon > the native is totally a extravert and aspected by > retrograde ther is every possibility to be > hystirical too.Moon has no benific aspects.Sure that > it is in 5th in chitta around the same degrees as > lagna raising in moon's nakshtra associated with > venus.more of softness,feminine and very important > aspected by retrograde saturn.the first 2and half > years the life will be tumultous and in themiddle > 2nd half may be he /she can go in for some kind of > odd jobs insome kind of creative jobs including some > fine arts and gain some money.the last phase will > again be problems involve in family problems and > some court cases and financial problems.The native > needs care during the time and even some body has to > look after due to satur aspect on ketu.moola > nakshtra in 8th from lagna in a fierysign and dual > in nature.in any case he will not have peace from > family.What is important is dasa and the paryaya of > saturn plays vital role.Native may be around > 20-21 yrs? > the second case we will go through and find later > krishnan > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > Saturn is generally known to affect one adversely on > occasions when he occupies certain positions in > one's > horoscope like Saade Sati (7 1/2 years) Ashtama Sani > (Saturn in 8 Th house - 2 1/2 years) etc. > I want to analyse the effects of saade-sathi with > respect to the nakshatra in which saturn is present > in > the chart. > > Case 1:- > Case -1 Chart is something like:- > Asc----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sun----Aries(Mar)-----Ashwini(Ketu) > Mon----Virgo(Mer)-----Chitra(Mars) > Mar----Aries(Mar)-----Bharani(Venus) > Mer----Taurus(Ven)----Krittika(Sun) > Jup®--Scorpio(Mar)---Anuradha(Saturn) > Ven----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sat®-Libra(Ven)-----Swati(Rahu) > Rah®-Gemini(Mer)----Mrigasira(Mars) > Ket®-Sagitt(Jup)----Mula(Ketu) > > Saturn is in Swati Nakshatra *lord is rahu* and is > in > Libra Sign (exalted saturn). Since saturn is in > friend's house so Saade sathi might not be bad > experience. > Moon is in Chitra Nakshatra *lord is Mars which is > enemy of saturn* so some bad effects will be > experienced.Saturn is not aspected by sun,moon and > mars *all are his enemies*. > > Case 2:- > With the same chart,suppose Saturn is in Krittika > nakshatra *lord is Sun* and sun is enemy of saturn. > So > in this case even if saturn is present in Libra Sign > *saturn is exalted* it will not give good results. > > So, this is my first analysis on the basis of > nakshatra so I will expect comments. > > =================== > > > > many thanks > angel goel > =================== > > > > > ____ > > for Good > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store./redcross-donate3/ > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > jyotish-vidya > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite . 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Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hello Angel ji, The phnomenom of sadesati arises out of transit/gochara planets.The points that go in favour and against are: Saturn is in 9th from it's mool trikona For taurus lagna saturn is dharama karmadhi pati(linking 9th&10th) Mon----Virgo(Mer)-----Chitra(Mars):If mars dasa is dasa at janma saturn dasa for the native will be 4th in order that reflects matru bahava saturn in swati when retrograde and in influenced through Rahu:Sat is in Swati which Nakshatra falls in movable sign all these increases malefic results particularly in malefic bhava venus in rohini ruled by moon with chitra in moon is 13th star.This relation is not good and with saturn 3rd from moon and 16th from ntal sign nakshtra(krittika) degree wise saturn is ideal but retrograde and in rahu.uncertainity. sadesati will not be consistent to hope for good results. Aspect of mars as well as sun too is not good. basically moon is in chitta not comfortable being fiery.relationship is blow hot and cold krishnan angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Krishnan Ji Thanks for reply. Taking case 1 : ===================== As per your explaination that even though saturn is in friendly nakshatra it will not behave positively-you cited various problems-about moon and its nakshatra;moon chart. Frankly could not understand much. I want to know how do I deduce whether saade sathi will be good OR bad for particular native. Can you please let me know the way/steps. How do we get hints regarding the behaviour of saturn and its effect. Particulars in this case are:- 1> Sat in Libra Sign *exalted* but retro 2> Sat is in Swati Nakshatra. 3> Moon is in chitra *ruled by mars* Mars is strong in the chart. 4>Moon is present in Virgo sign 5> Asc is Tauras I have read at many places that Saade sathi need not be bad for every1. Infact me it was good for educational purposes. Please reply. Thanks AG --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Angel ji, > Sade sati is transitory phenomena with reference to > moon sign.very fact sani is 2nd in natal chart from > moon the major effect in the first 2 and half years > will be worries and fears.Mainly these concern > inward about helath. > 8th from moon beung chara with exalted sun and moon > the native is totally a extravert and aspected by > retrograde ther is every possibility to be > hystirical too.Moon has no benific aspects.Sure that > it is in 5th in chitta around the same degrees as > lagna raising in moon's nakshtra associated with > venus.more of softness,feminine and very important > aspected by retrograde saturn.the first 2and half > years the life will be tumultous and in themiddle > 2nd half may be he /she can go in for some kind of > odd jobs insome kind of creative jobs including some > fine arts and gain some money.the last phase will > again be problems involve in family problems and > some court cases and financial problems.The native > needs care during the time and even some body has to > look after due to satur aspect on ketu.moola > nakshtra in 8th from lagna in a fierysign and dual > in nature.in any case he will not have peace from > family.What is important is dasa and the paryaya of > saturn plays vital role.Native may be around > 20-21 yrs? > the second case we will go through and find later > krishnan > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > Saturn is generally known to affect one adversely on > occasions when he occupies certain positions in > one's > horoscope like Saade Sati (7 1/2 years) Ashtama Sani > (Saturn in 8 Th house - 2 1/2 years) etc. > I want to analyse the effects of saade-sathi with > respect to the nakshatra in which saturn is present > in > the chart. > > Case 1:- > Case -1 Chart is something like:- > Asc----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sun----Aries(Mar)-----Ashwini(Ketu) > Mon----Virgo(Mer)-----Chitra(Mars) > Mar----Aries(Mar)-----Bharani(Venus) > Mer----Taurus(Ven)----Krittika(Sun) > Jup®--Scorpio(Mar)---Anuradha(Saturn) > Ven----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sat®-Libra(Ven)-----Swati(Rahu) > Rah®-Gemini(Mer)----Mrigasira(Mars) > Ket®-Sagitt(Jup)----Mula(Ketu) > > Saturn is in Swati Nakshatra *lord is rahu* and is > in > Libra Sign (exalted saturn). Since saturn is in > friend's house so Saade sathi might not be bad > experience. > Moon is in Chitra Nakshatra *lord is Mars which is > enemy of saturn* so some bad effects will be > experienced.Saturn is not aspected by sun,moon and > mars *all are his enemies*. > > Case 2:- > With the same chart,suppose Saturn is in Krittika > nakshatra *lord is Sun* and sun is enemy of saturn. > So > in this case even if saturn is present in Libra Sign > *saturn is exalted* it will not give good results. > > So, this is my first analysis on the basis of > nakshatra so I will expect comments. > > =================== > > > > many thanks > angel goel > =================== > > > > > ____ > > for Good > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store./redcross-donate3/ > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > jyotish-vidya > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite . 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Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Dear mr nelish, True sadesati importance is only for sign.The real effects and results have to come from stelars getting affectd and the aspects fo natal planets during the period of sadesati. Probably what Angel ji is trying to see hwther with yogakarak planets with good placements in natal charts how signs involved behave. However Iam holding the view the results coming out of sadesati will be mixed : as moon in virgo is in chitta nakshta,an enemy to lgna lord aspect of mars on saturn whic in nattaly placed in dusthana aspect of malefic planet like saturn on moon. 3rd house of moon is also under mars infuence. froit's own house of cancer,moon is in 3rd.it is also maraka though placed in lakshmisthan. mercury for this lagna is maraka and placed 12th to its sign. jupiter® aspecting lagna has to safeguard sadesati period.money wise may not be bad in sadesati what jeev elements will effect. Both marcury venus along with saturn are all eveil planets.Deha elements have to take brunt. krishnan nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 wrote: Dear All, Do we take the effect of sadesathi at nakshatra level? I used to think, correct me if I am wrong that sadesathi is to be taken at a sign level as it has to do with saturn's trasit aspect over natal moon's sign. For example say for sign Leo sade sathi is supposed to affect the native negatively irrespective of the fact that saturn may pass through,and the moon may be in the nakshatra of Purva phalguni which is owned by venus ( friend of Saturn) Best Regards Nilesh --- angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi Krishnan Ji Thanks for reply. Taking case 1 : ===================== As per your explaination that even though saturn is in friendly nakshatra it will not behave positively-you cited various problems-about moon and its nakshatra;moon chart. Frankly could not understand much. I want to know how do I deduce whether saade sathi will be good OR bad for particular native. Can you please let me know the way/steps. How do we get hints regarding the behaviour of saturn and its effect. Particulars in this case are:- 1> Sat in Libra Sign *exalted* but retro 2> Sat is in Swati Nakshatra. 3> Moon is in chitra *ruled by mars* Mars is strong in the chart. 4>Moon is present in Virgo sign 5> Asc is Tauras I have read at many places that Saade sathi need not be bad for every1. Infact me it was good for educational purposes. Please reply. Thanks AG --- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > Dear Angel ji, > Sade sati is transitory phenomena with reference to > moon sign.very fact sani is 2nd in natal chart from > moon the major effect in the first 2 and half years > will be worries and fears.Mainly these concern > inward about helath. > 8th from moon beung chara with exalted sun and moon > the native is totally a extravert and aspected by > retrograde ther is every possibility to be > hystirical too.Moon has no benific aspects.Sure that > it is in 5th in chitta around the same degrees as > lagna raising in moon's nakshtra associated with > venus.more of softness,feminine and very important > aspected by retrograde saturn.the first 2and half > years the life will be tumultous and in themiddle > 2nd half may be he /she can go in for some kind of > odd jobs insome kind of creative jobs including some > fine arts and gain some money.the last phase will > again be problems involve in family problems and > some court cases and financial problems.The native > needs care during the time and even some body has to > look after due to satur aspect on ketu.moola > nakshtra in 8th from lagna in a fierysign and dual > in nature.in any case he will not have peace from > family.What is important is dasa and the paryaya of > saturn plays vital role.Native may be around > 20-21 yrs? > the second case we will go through and find later > krishnan > > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > Saturn is generally known to affect one adversely on > occasions when he occupies certain positions in > one's > horoscope like Saade Sati (7 1/2 years) Ashtama Sani > (Saturn in 8 Th house - 2 1/2 years) etc. > I want to analyse the effects of saade-sathi with > respect to the nakshatra in which saturn is present > in > the chart. > > Case 1:- > Case -1 Chart is something like:- > Asc----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sun----Aries(Mar)-----Ashwini(Ketu) > Mon----Virgo(Mer)-----Chitra(Mars) > Mar----Aries(Mar)-----Bharani(Venus) > Mer----Taurus(Ven)----Krittika(Sun) > Jup®--Scorpio(Mar)---Anuradha(Saturn) > Ven----Taurus(Ven)----Rohini(Moon) > Sat®-Libra(Ven)-----Swati(Rahu) > Rah®-Gemini(Mer)----Mrigasira(Mars) > Ket®-Sagitt(Jup)----Mula(Ketu) > > Saturn is in Swati Nakshatra *lord is rahu* and is > in > Libra Sign (exalted saturn). Since saturn is in > friend's house so Saade sathi might not be bad > experience. > Moon is in Chitra Nakshatra *lord is Mars which is > enemy of saturn* so some bad effects will be > experienced.Saturn is not aspected by sun,moon and > mars *all are his enemies*. > > Case 2:- > With the same chart,suppose Saturn is in Krittika > nakshatra *lord is Sun* and sun is enemy of saturn. > So > in this case even if saturn is present in Libra Sign > *saturn is exalted* it will not give good results. > > So, this is my first analysis on the basis of > nakshatra so I will expect comments. > > =================== > > > > many thanks > angel goel > =================== > > > > > ____ > > for Good > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store./redcross-donate3/ > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > jyotish-vidya > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite . Make > your home page > http://us.click./dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Terms of Service. ________ India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://.shaadi.com Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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