Marriage and Divorce

February 22, 2005

Dear friend,

It seems to be a very interesting case wherein 'Bhaavat Bhaavam'

plays a major role.

In Bride's chart:

1. Kalatra or 7th house is afflicted by the aspect of 12th

Lord Sun, who himself is weak, though aspected by Lagna lord

fallen from exaltation being retrograde. Even Jupiter being

retro posited in own house, is weak wrt 7th house, but not bad!

2. As already seen, 7th lord is retrograde and pulls back his

benefic power, though strong and not malefic. Of course,

afflicted by 12th lord Sun and natural enemy and now

temporal enemy - Adhishatru - Mercury!

3. Kalatra Karaka Venus is in 12th, moderate by bhava, bad by

rashi - Leo, the enemic sign, subject to Papakartari,

seen by enemic Moon! Furthur, posited in 7th from Moon

implies 'Karako bhaavanaashaaya' to certain extent.

4. 7th from 7th, being Lagna, posited with lagna lord retro,

with 12th lord Sun, aspected by 6th lord Saturn and 8th lord Mars,

surely speaks of friction in married life. seen from 7th,

7th lord Merc is retro with 6th lord Sun and Venus in 6th, also

being the 8th lord clearly making 'Bhrigu ShaTka' come into

play. Furthur, 7th to 7th is aspected by Saturn the 12th lord

from 7th, in mutual exchange with Moon, thereby getting

stronger than he appears.

So, conclusion is - 7th bhava is weak and 7th lord weak to be a

benefic both being afflicted. Karaka is ill.

Hence, the wedlock is weaker and friction-ful. Still, Jupiter's

aspect on Saturn and lagna can minimise losses.

With Saturn dasha in progress, Jupiter in 8th @ transit, being

pratyantara lord, the period is very very sensitive. Any wrong

decision may spoil the whole life. And I fear, there is a Shankha

Parivarthana(hope I remember the name right) between 6-11 lords,

which clearly says, gain may become loss any time!

----

-----------

In Bridegroom's chart:

1. 7th house is strong with three benefic planets and really

good with Venus in Moola Trikona sign, but afflicted

considerably by malefic Saturn, the badhaka lord

debilitated in retrogression, enhancing his power, in malefic way!

It is a definite indication of late marriage and friction

follows it.

2. 7th lord and Karaka being venus, is powerful and benefic,

but subject to same influence of retro-debilitated Saturn.

clearly, 'Karako Bhaavanaashaaya' is in effect.

3. 7th from 7th is weaker with Saturn with neecha(bhanga) and

retro, aspected by powerful Jupiter, thereby gaining sustaining

capacity, though friction is promised by 3rd and 6th lord

Mercury aspecting the house, but its lord Mars is capable

in 5th and unafflicted. The same house being 7th from Moon,

enhances possibilities of friction in married life.

So, 7th is considerably afflicted, though its lord is powerful. The

afflicting planets being Saturn and Mercury, with Merc

Dasha, Merc antara and Sat pratyantara in progress, promise highly

irritating married life. But, still strong Venus and

Jupiter's aspect can do wonders at times. So wedlock can be saved and

there is no need for divorce.

Suggestion to couple: Realise that you are heading the wrong way!

Harmony is the key to happy married life. Every event in

everyone's life has something to teach and so before it is too late,

think thrice before you act, keeping ego aside.

Pray to any God/Goddess to enhace good qualities in yourself and act

accordingly. If you are deeply religious, pray to

Lord Shiva every Monday with Bilwapatra to cool down Saturn and

Jupiter for benefic results. Worship Vishnu every Wednesday with

Tulasi.

Thats enough, no yantra, mantra is required. Remedy is within

yourself; take it out! Practice meditation everyday sparing

five minutes for better future.

yours

KAD

, "venkyuppala"

<venkyuppala> wrote:

>

> The persons below have been married just 9 months and dont get

along

> with my each other.

> The charts were matched prior to marriage and shown to

astrologers.No

> manglik dosha.26 out of 36 points and otherwise OK

horoscopes.Inspite

> of this, can anyone explain why this state of affairs? Native is

> seriously considering divorce. Any explanations/advice is welcome.

>

> Chart1(Bride)- 16 Oct 1975. Calcutta, 4:53 a.m

> Chart2(Groom)- 25 Sept 1968 Kakinada(A.P), 7:50 p.m

>

> The boy has Saturn® debilitated in 1st House(Aries) and Venus in

> 7th House(Libra).The moon-sign is Libra and star is Visakha.

>

> The girls moonsign is Aquarius and star is Satabhisha 2nd Pada.

>

> Could the above situation be because of debilitated Saturn

aspecting

> the 7th House in bous chart?

> Does Saturn get neechabhanga because of presence of Venus in 7th in

> boys chart?

> If this marriage ends in a divorce is there a possibility of 2nd

> marriage?

>

> Thanks in advance!!

February 23, 2005

Dear friends,

It is very distressing to note that when astrologers have matched

the horoscope with so many points, why should the marriage go into

turmoil.

In astro groups such examples are in plenty.

In that case the people who donot have their horoscopes or who donot

have accurate birth data are lucky to escape from astrologers.

Inder

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

> It seems to be a very interesting case wherein 'Bhaavat Bhaavam'

> plays a major role.

> In Bride's chart:

> 1. Kalatra or 7th house is afflicted by the aspect of 12th

> Lord Sun, who himself is weak, though aspected by Lagna lord

> fallen from exaltation being retrograde. Even Jupiter being

> retro posited in own house, is weak wrt 7th house, but not bad!

>

> 2. As already seen, 7th lord is retrograde and pulls back his

> benefic power, though strong and not malefic. Of course,

> afflicted by 12th lord Sun and natural enemy and now

> temporal enemy - Adhishatru - Mercury!

>

> 3. Kalatra Karaka Venus is in 12th, moderate by bhava, bad by

> rashi - Leo, the enemic sign, subject to Papakartari,

> seen by enemic Moon! Furthur, posited in 7th from Moon

> implies 'Karako bhaavanaashaaya' to certain extent.

>

> 4. 7th from 7th, being Lagna, posited with lagna lord retro,

> with 12th lord Sun, aspected by 6th lord Saturn and 8th lord Mars,

> surely speaks of friction in married life. seen from 7th,

> 7th lord Merc is retro with 6th lord Sun and Venus in 6th, also

> being the 8th lord clearly making 'Bhrigu ShaTka' come into

> play. Furthur, 7th to 7th is aspected by Saturn the 12th lord

> from 7th, in mutual exchange with Moon, thereby getting

> stronger than he appears.

>

> So, conclusion is - 7th bhava is weak and 7th lord weak to be a

> benefic both being afflicted. Karaka is ill.

> Hence, the wedlock is weaker and friction-ful. Still, Jupiter's

> aspect on Saturn and lagna can minimise losses.

> With Saturn dasha in progress, Jupiter in 8th @ transit, being

> pratyantara lord, the period is very very sensitive. Any wrong

> decision may spoil the whole life. And I fear, there is a Shankha

> Parivarthana(hope I remember the name right) between 6-11 lords,

> which clearly says, gain may become loss any time!

>

> -

---

> -----------

> In Bridegroom's chart:

> 1. 7th house is strong with three benefic planets and really

> good with Venus in Moola Trikona sign, but afflicted

> considerably by malefic Saturn, the badhaka lord

> debilitated in retrogression, enhancing his power, in malefic way!

> It is a definite indication of late marriage and friction

> follows it.

>

> 2. 7th lord and Karaka being venus, is powerful and benefic,

> but subject to same influence of retro-debilitated Saturn.

> clearly, 'Karako Bhaavanaashaaya' is in effect.

>

> 3. 7th from 7th is weaker with Saturn with neecha(bhanga) and

> retro, aspected by powerful Jupiter, thereby gaining sustaining

> capacity, though friction is promised by 3rd and 6th lord

> Mercury aspecting the house, but its lord Mars is capable

> in 5th and unafflicted. The same house being 7th from Moon,

> enhances possibilities of friction in married life.

>

> So, 7th is considerably afflicted, though its lord is powerful.

The

> afflicting planets being Saturn and Mercury, with Merc

> Dasha, Merc antara and Sat pratyantara in progress, promise highly

> irritating married life. But, still strong Venus and

> Jupiter's aspect can do wonders at times. So wedlock can be saved

and

> there is no need for divorce.

>

> Suggestion to couple: Realise that you are heading the wrong way!

> Harmony is the key to happy married life. Every event in

> everyone's life has something to teach and so before it is too

late,

> think thrice before you act, keeping ego aside.

> Pray to any God/Goddess to enhace good qualities in yourself and

act

> accordingly. If you are deeply religious, pray to

> Lord Shiva every Monday with Bilwapatra to cool down Saturn and

> Jupiter for benefic results. Worship Vishnu every Wednesday with

> Tulasi.

> Thats enough, no yantra, mantra is required. Remedy is within

> yourself; take it out! Practice meditation everyday sparing

> five minutes for better future.

>

> yours

> KAD

>

> , "venkyuppala"

> <venkyuppala> wrote:

> >

> > The persons below have been married just 9 months and dont get

> along

> > with my each other.

> > The charts were matched prior to marriage and shown to

> astrologers.No

> > manglik dosha.26 out of 36 points and otherwise OK

> horoscopes.Inspite

> > of this, can anyone explain why this state of affairs? Native is

> > seriously considering divorce. Any explanations/advice is

welcome.

> >

> > Chart1(Bride)- 16 Oct 1975. Calcutta, 4:53 a.m

> > Chart2(Groom)- 25 Sept 1968 Kakinada(A.P), 7:50 p.m

> >

> > The boy has Saturn® debilitated in 1st House(Aries) and Venus

in

> > 7th House(Libra).The moon-sign is Libra and star is Visakha.

> >

> > The girls moonsign is Aquarius and star is Satabhisha 2nd Pada.

> >

> > Could the above situation be because of debilitated Saturn

> aspecting

> > the 7th House in bous chart?

> > Does Saturn get neechabhanga because of presence of Venus in 7th

in

> > boys chart?

> > If this marriage ends in a divorce is there a possibility of 2nd

> > marriage?

> >

> > Thanks in advance!!

September 11, 2005

Dear All,

It is a humble request to all respected memebers to PL analyse the

chart of a girl from the point of view of marriage, divorce and

remarriage.

The details are :

DOB SEPT 1, 1973

POB NAGDA MP (75E25, 23N27)

TOB 1.57 PM

ASC 28.58 SC

SU 15.16 LE

MO 08.11 LI

MA 13.22 AR

ME 13.50 LE

JU® 09.58 CP

VE 22.20 VI

SA 09.24 GE

RA 11.58 SG

KE 11.58 GE

THE GIRL GOT MARRIED & WAS DIVORCED SOON. (I DONT KNOW THE EXACT DATES

OF MARRIAGE & DIVORCE.....BUT IT HAPPENED I PAST 3-4 YRS ONLY)

SHE IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED & SUCCESSFUL IN STUDIES IN CAREER.

QUERIES ARE:

1- WHEN WILL SHE GET MARRIED?

2- WILL THE 2ND MARIAGE BE SUCCESSFUL & HAPPY?

3- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO BEAR KIDS?

4- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HAPPY RELATION WITH HER HUSBAND?

5- SHE HAS STARTED SHANI DASHA (STARTING AUG 15TH 2005 TILL 2024. HOW

GOOD THIS DASHA WILL BE FOR THE GIRL, MARITAL HAPPINESS, CAREER, ETC.

6- ANY OTHER INPUT.

would appreciate any help on this issue.

with sincere thx & regrads.

VC

September 11, 2005

Dear VC??,

I'm assuming you're a student of astrology wishing to discuss the

points you've raised...is this correct?

If this is the case then perhaps you'd like to share your own views

on the chart so that learned members can guide you towards a better

understanding.

Best Wishes,

Mrs Wendy

http://jyotishvidya.com

______

jyotish-vidya, "cv_toronto" <cv_toronto>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> It is a humble request to all respected memebers to PL analyse the

> chart of a girl from the point of view of marriage, divorce and

> remarriage.

>

> The details are :

>

> DOB SEPT 1, 1973

> POB NAGDA MP (75E25, 23N27)

> TOB 1.57 PM

>

> ASC 28.58 SC

> SU 15.16 LE

> MO 08.11 LI

> MA 13.22 AR

> ME 13.50 LE

> JU® 09.58 CP

> VE 22.20 VI

> SA 09.24 GE

> RA 11.58 SG

> KE 11.58 GE

>

> THE GIRL GOT MARRIED & WAS DIVORCED SOON. (I DONT KNOW THE EXACT

DATES

> OF MARRIAGE & DIVORCE.....BUT IT HAPPENED I PAST 3-4 YRS ONLY)

>

> SHE IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED & SUCCESSFUL IN STUDIES IN CAREER.

>

> QUERIES ARE:

> 1- WHEN WILL SHE GET MARRIED?

> 2- WILL THE 2ND MARIAGE BE SUCCESSFUL & HAPPY?

> 3- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO BEAR KIDS?

> 4- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HAPPY RELATION WITH HER HUSBAND?

> 5- SHE HAS STARTED SHANI DASHA (STARTING AUG 15TH 2005 TILL 2024.

HOW

> GOOD THIS DASHA WILL BE FOR THE GIRL, MARITAL HAPPINESS, CAREER,

ETC.

>

> 6- ANY OTHER INPUT.

>

> would appreciate any help on this issue.

>

> with sincere thx & regrads.

> VC

September 12, 2005

Dear Mrs Wendy,

I am just a learner in astrology and prone to

mistakes. ie why i wanted to get the feedback from the

learned members.

What I undrestand, the chast has too many debilitaed

planets...viz Jup, Venus, Rahu & Ketu. aspecting or

sitting in IMP houses.

The Lagna lord Mars, is sitting in the 6th house

(inauspicious house) though sitting in own rashi of

Mesha.

Moon is sitting in 12 house being aspected by Mars

from 6th house. Moon has NO positive aspect.

Jup is Deb & Retrograde too. (I dont know if it

reduces the debilitation or not).

If I look at the chandra lagna, the chandra lagna is

Deb too & sitting in the 12th house.

In D9, the 7th lord(Merc) is in 6th house with Sun &

Mars.

The ONLY good thing abt this chart seems to be the

placement of Sun & Merc in 10th house (forming a

BudhAditya yoga). implying the native will overcome

adversities and perform well in the career.

My main query is abt marriage & i was unable to

analyse if the 2nd marriage SHD be done or not.

I wd appreciate some inputs.

Regds,

Vic.

--- wenvasuk <jyotish wrote:

Dear VC??,

I'm assuming you're a student of astrology wishing to

discuss the

points you've raised...is this correct?

If this is the case then perhaps you'd like to share

your own views

on the chart so that learned members can guide you

towards a better

understanding.

Best Wishes,

Mrs Wendy

http://jyotishvidya.com

______

jyotish-vidya, "cv_toronto"

<cv_toronto>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> It is a humble request to all respected memebers to

PL analyse the

> chart of a girl from the point of view of marriage,

divorce and

> remarriage.

>

> The details are :

>

> DOB SEPT 1, 1973

> POB NAGDA MP (75E25, 23N27)

> TOB 1.57 PM

>

> ASC 28.58 SC

> SU 15.16 LE

> MO 08.11 LI

> MA 13.22 AR

> ME 13.50 LE

> JU® 09.58 CP

> VE 22.20 VI

> SA 09.24 GE

> RA 11.58 SG

> KE 11.58 GE

>

> THE GIRL GOT MARRIED & WAS DIVORCED SOON. (I DONT

KNOW THE EXACT

DATES

> OF MARRIAGE & DIVORCE.....BUT IT HAPPENED I PAST 3-4

YRS ONLY)

>

> SHE IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED & SUCCESSFUL IN STUDIES IN

CAREER.

>

> QUERIES ARE:

> 1- WHEN WILL SHE GET MARRIED?

> 2- WILL THE 2ND MARIAGE BE SUCCESSFUL & HAPPY?

> 3- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO BEAR KIDS?

> 4- WILL SHE BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HAPPY RELATION WITH

HER HUSBAND?

> 5- SHE HAS STARTED SHANI DASHA (STARTING AUG 15TH

2005 TILL 2024.

HOW

> GOOD THIS DASHA WILL BE FOR THE GIRL, MARITAL

HAPPINESS, CAREER,

ETC.

>

> 6- ANY OTHER INPUT.

>

> would appreciate any help on this issue.

>

> with sincere thx & regrads.

> VC

September 12, 2005

Dear Vic,

>>I am just a learner in astrology and prone to

mistakes. ie why i wanted to get the feedback from the

learned members.<<

Actually we're all learners here... just some have been learning

longer than others :-))

>>The Lagna lord Mars, is sitting in the 6th house

(inauspicious house) though sitting in own rashi of

Mesha.

Moon is sitting in 12 house being aspected by Mars

from 6th house. Moon has NO positive aspect.<<

You might like to rethink the mutual aspect between 1st/9th lords.

Yes, 6th is moolatrikona house.. but, as lord of lagna, Mars is a

functional benefic for this ascendant (I believe).

>>The ONLY good thing abt this chart seems to be the

placement of Sun & Merc in 10th house (forming a

BudhAditya yoga). implying the native will overcome

adversities and perform well in the career.<<

Lagnesh Mars in own sign in 6th gives courage to overcome

adversities and succeed in his/her undertakings. To the best of my

knowledge combustion somewhat nullifies budhaditya yoga...other

members might add more to this.

>>Jup is Deb & Retrograde too. (I dont know if it

reduces the debilitation or not).<<

What may reduce the debilitation (if we can call it that) is

Jupiter's placement in Pisces (Navamsha) lagna, also Mars in Aries

in kendra from Jupiter and Moon should also assist. However this

Jupiter, dispositing Rahu and aspecting both 7th house and its lord

Venus, suggests ups and downs in regards to domestic harmony

disturbing married life/spouse.

>>What I undrestand, the chast has too many debilitaed

planets...viz Jup, Venus, Rahu & Ketu. aspecting or

sitting in IMP houses.<<

There is little agreement (even) amongst the sages regarding the

debilitation of Rahu/Ketu.

>>My main query is abt marriage & i was unable to

analyse if the 2nd marriage SHD be done or not.<<

Other members may be able to add more insight here. However, with

7th lord debilitated whilst his dispositor is combust, the prospects

for happy married life are not favourable in my opinion...although

7th lord Venus conjunct Rahu in navamsha suggests more than one

marriage.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

September 12, 2005

Thx a lot Mrs Wendy,

Just wanted to give some more feedback on this chart.

The date of 1st marriage was 18th Feb 1999

Separation happened in Mid 2000.

Divorce happened on Jan 30th 2002.

The girl is a MBBS Doc by profession & doing reasonably good in

profession. Cleared her post graduate exam after the divorce and

planning to go abroad.

Girl is youngest in family with no brother.

I hope it will help to analyse the chart.

waiting for other members for response regarding marital happiness.

Thx.

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

> Dear Vic,

>

> >>I am just a learner in astrology and prone to

> mistakes. ie why i wanted to get the feedback from the

> learned members.<<

>

> Actually we're all learners here... just some have been learning

> longer than others :-))

>

> >>The Lagna lord Mars, is sitting in the 6th house

> (inauspicious house) though sitting in own rashi of

> Mesha.

> Moon is sitting in 12 house being aspected by Mars

> from 6th house. Moon has NO positive aspect.<<

>

> You might like to rethink the mutual aspect between 1st/9th lords.

> Yes, 6th is moolatrikona house.. but, as lord of lagna, Mars is a

> functional benefic for this ascendant (I believe).

>

> >>The ONLY good thing abt this chart seems to be the

> placement of Sun & Merc in 10th house (forming a

> BudhAditya yoga). implying the native will overcome

> adversities and perform well in the career.<<

>

> Lagnesh Mars in own sign in 6th gives courage to overcome

> adversities and succeed in his/her undertakings. To the best of my

> knowledge combustion somewhat nullifies budhaditya yoga...other

> members might add more to this.

>

> >>Jup is Deb & Retrograde too. (I dont know if it

> reduces the debilitation or not).<<

>

> What may reduce the debilitation (if we can call it that) is

> Jupiter's placement in Pisces (Navamsha) lagna, also Mars in Aries

> in kendra from Jupiter and Moon should also assist. However this

> Jupiter, dispositing Rahu and aspecting both 7th house and its lord

> Venus, suggests ups and downs in regards to domestic harmony

> disturbing married life/spouse.

>

> >>What I undrestand, the chast has too many debilitaed

> planets...viz Jup, Venus, Rahu & Ketu. aspecting or

> sitting in IMP houses.<<

>

> There is little agreement (even) amongst the sages regarding the

> debilitation of Rahu/Ketu.

>

> >>My main query is abt marriage & i was unable to

> analyse if the 2nd marriage SHD be done or not.<<

>

> Other members may be able to add more insight here. However, with

> 7th lord debilitated whilst his dispositor is combust, the prospects

> for happy married life are not favourable in my opinion...although

> 7th lord Venus conjunct Rahu in navamsha suggests more than one

> marriage.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

September 12, 2005

Dear Vic,

It's not difficult to see these events if we look at the

dasas/transits for the respective dates. At time of marriage

JU-VE-JU-MO dasa was determining the events in this native's life.

As you can see Dasa/PD lord Jupiter was transiting his own sign (in

5th - 11th from 7th) along with bhukti lord Venus (exalted in this

sign) and sookshmantar lord Moon.

Without a more precise date I cannot be sure of the PD at time of

separation - nor of position of Sun (i.e. before or after 17th etc).

I'm assuming however that the date was sometime in June 2000. This

shows that the dasa was (likely) JU-SU-JU...?? Jupiter was at this

time transiting 7th house in sign of Taurus. Note this Jupiter owns

8th from 7th.

The dasa at time of divorce was JU-MO-VE-MO. Jupiter was at that

time transiting 8th house along with Rahu. Both Rahu and 8th are

significators for major changes in life and, as already mentioned

Jupiter owns 8th from 7th. Bhukti lord Moon in 12th was transiting

10th house of status...change of status from married woman to

divorced woman. PD lord Venus transiting sign of Saturn whilst

Saturn transits sign of Venus in 7th house.

As you can see the transits, in conjunction with the operating

dasas, determine the precise karmic events, and to determine the

duration/success of any future marriage one needs to carefully

consider these two conditions (in conjunction). One can see from the

chart that there are some hindrances to happy married life, however

whether the native can overcome these hindrances (work through these

difficulties) depends very much on the transit of the planets at the

time.

It's said that 7th house shows first marriage, 9th shows 2nd, and so

forth. As we see in this chart, 7th lord is debilitated whilst his

dispositor is suffering combustion. 9th lord fares better in 12th

(showing a foreign connection), however, 9th lord's dispositor

debilitated in 12th from 12th again speaks of difficulties.... as I

said transits are vitally important in determining outcome.

That the native is a qualfied doctor can be seen with lagnesh Mars

in moolatrikona sign in 6th house of medicine (medical service etc)

whilst Sun, significator of medicine, occupies 10th house of

profession...

(PS: I have lagnesh Sani in 6th and trained as a nurse in younger

days).

This is what is said about Mars in 6th.

"If Mars is in the 6th house, the person will have enormous ability

to rise above his competitors and defeat his enemies. He will be

very powerful and successful. In moolatrikona sign, lagnesh Mars

indicates that the native can reach the top of his field...etc."

Now this Mars (lord of lagna) is in mutual aspect with 9th lord

Moon...perhaps you can contemplate the significance of this and give

your interpretation :-))

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

-

"cv_toronto" <cv_toronto

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:03 AM

Re: Marriage and Divorce

Thx a lot Mrs Wendy,

Just wanted to give some more feedback on this chart.

The date of 1st marriage was 18th Feb 1999

Separation happened in Mid 2000.

Divorce happened on Jan 30th 2002.

The girl is a MBBS Doc by profession & doing reasonably good in

profession. Cleared her post graduate exam after the divorce and

planning to go abroad.

Girl is youngest in family with no brother.

I hope it will help to analyse the chart.

waiting for other members for response regarding marital happiness.

Thx.

September 13, 2005

Dear Group,

The happiness is seen in a chart, in general, in ones life, from the

4th house including marital happiness. Having been discussed about

the 7th house and the allied issues by Mrs. Wendy, I would like to

see the chart from 4th house. The fourth house/4th lord's

affliction leads to lack of happiness and it results in some area of

the life of the individual.

The 4th lord Saturn is with Ketu (in close degrees) in the 8th. No

benefic aspect on this Saturn to bail him out from the situation.

The conjunction of 8th lord and Sun influences the 4th house. From

the Moon the Jupiter (RX) moves to 4th who is the 6th lord. The

condition of benefic planets in a chart and their disposition assure

general happiness in a chart.

Venus debilitated, Mercury combust and Jupiter retrograde and

finally the Moon is in lack of strength though it is in SP. His

placement is also not so desirable from his house. A clear

indication is lack of domestic happiness. In this chart it has

manifested in the 7th house area since planets controlling that area

are not fortified well. No better situation is available in D-9.

The 7th lord moves to 6th and who again happens to be the 4th lord.

The Jupiter's influence over 7th house and the Venus clearly

suggests, the marriage area would be decided by emotion. The first

marriage should have been one of such type if not, the second one

would be certainly like that kind. Venus in 11th in a dual rasi in

natal chart is also a factor for second marriage. Jupiter is in his

own house in Navamsa Lagna is also a favorable indication for second

marriage. The influence of Mars who happens to be the 2nd and 9th

lord on Navamsa Lagna is again an indication of extension of her

family. Still there could be certain difficulties since he moves to

sixth with the company of Sun and Mercury. Saturn/Mercury may

culminate the second marriage.

I think the Mercury and the Sun combination may not even give

complete success even in professional area because Saturn influences

the 10th Lord and the 10th house both from the 8th and who is ruling

the major period.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

PS: Thanx for the feedback it certainly helped to understand the

chart better.

September 13, 2005

Dear Mrs Wendy,

I really appreciate ur help in analysing the chart.

Reason I was asking mainly from the point of view of

marital happiness was because this was a proposal that

came for my marriage. I have also gone thru divorce

and suffered a lot in past. I dont want a repetition

of that again. That is the reasin I wanted to take the

opinion of respected memebers before going for a 2nd

marriage.

My birth details are as follows:

My details are as follows:

DOB 22 08 1970

TOB 2.45 AM

POB Delhi

Mesha Rashi, Ashwini nakshatra

Lagna Mithuna 23.48

MARS KARKA (CN) 28.43

SURYA SIMHA (LE) 04.57

KETU SIMHA (LE) 09.23

BUDHA KANYA (VI) 01.33

SHUKRA KANYA (VI) 20.44

GURU TULA (LI) 07.26

RAHU KUMBHA (AQ) 09.23

CHANDRA MESHA (AR) 10.19

SHANI MESHA (AR) 29.00

D9:

ASC TAURUS WITH SUN IN ASC

KE IN MITHUNA IN 2ND HOUSE

MO AND VE IN 3RD HOUSE IN KARKA

JU, SA & RA IN 8TH HOUSE IN DHANU

ME IN 9TH HOUSE IN MAKAR

MA IN 11TH HOUSE IN MEENA

CURRENTLY IN DASHA OF MO/KE/MA

WILL COME IN MO/VE IN JAN 21 2006.

I WAS MARRIED IN 2003 FEB....IMMEDIATELY PROBLEMS

STARTED & GOT DIVORCED IN MAY/JUNE 2005. STILL GOING

THRU LEGAL ISSUES WITH EX WIFE. MY WHOLE FAMILY IS

ALSO STUCK IN ALL KINDS OF FALSE CASES FILED BY EX

WIFE.

MY QUERIES ARE:

1- WHEN WILL I & MY FAMILY COME OUT OF ALL THIS MESS?

2- SHD I REMARRY ? I HAVE LOST FAITH IN MARRIAGE AS

SUCH? IF AT ALL YES, WHEN? WILL MY 2ND MARRIAGE BE

SUCCESSFUL & HAPPY ONE?

3- WHEN WILL I GET OVERALL HAPPINESS & STABILITY IN

LIFE AS MY LIFE HAS BEEN A ROLLER COASTER....TOO MANY

UPS & DNS?

4- THE CHART OF THE GIRL & MY CHART MATCHES (27 GUNAS)

BUT IS THE GUNAS ITSELF SUFFICIENT TO GIVE MARITAL

HAPPINESS? SHD I MARRY THE GIRL WHOSE CHART YOU HAVE

ANALYSED BEFORE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT SHE HAS A CHART

THAT KIND OF DENIES HER MARITAL HAPPINESS?

I wd appreciate ANY help.

Thanks once again for ALL the help. I really

appreciate.

Regds,

Vic

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear Vic,

It's not difficult to see these events if we look at

the

dasas/transits for the respective dates. At time of

marriage

JU-VE-JU-MO dasa was determining the events in this

native's life.

As you can see Dasa/PD lord Jupiter was transiting his

own sign (in

5th - 11th from 7th) along with bhukti lord Venus

(exalted in this

sign) and sookshmantar lord Moon.

Without a more precise date I cannot be sure of the PD

at time of

separation - nor of position of Sun (i.e. before or

after 17th etc).

I'm assuming however that the date was sometime in

June 2000. This

shows that the dasa was (likely) JU-SU-JU...?? Jupiter

was at this

time transiting 7th house in sign of Taurus. Note this

Jupiter owns

8th from 7th.

The dasa at time of divorce was JU-MO-VE-MO. Jupiter

was at that

time transiting 8th house along with Rahu. Both Rahu

and 8th are

significators for major changes in life and, as

already mentioned

Jupiter owns 8th from 7th. Bhukti lord Moon in 12th

was transiting

10th house of status...change of status from married

woman to

divorced woman. PD lord Venus transiting sign of

Saturn whilst

Saturn transits sign of Venus in 7th house.

As you can see the transits, in conjunction with the

operating

dasas, determine the precise karmic events, and to

determine the

duration/success of any future marriage one needs to

carefully

consider these two conditions (in conjunction). One

can see from the

chart that there are some hindrances to happy married

life, however

whether the native can overcome these hindrances (work

through these

difficulties) depends very much on the transit of the

planets at the

time.

It's said that 7th house shows first marriage, 9th

shows 2nd, and so

forth. As we see in this chart, 7th lord is

debilitated whilst his

dispositor is suffering combustion. 9th lord fares

better in 12th

(showing a foreign connection), however, 9th lord's

dispositor

debilitated in 12th from 12th again speaks of

difficulties.... as I

said transits are vitally important in determining

outcome.

That the native is a qualfied doctor can be seen with

lagnesh Mars

in moolatrikona sign in 6th house of medicine (medical

service etc)

whilst Sun, significator of medicine, occupies 10th

house of

profession...

(PS: I have lagnesh Sani in 6th and trained as a nurse

in younger

days).

This is what is said about Mars in 6th.

"If Mars is in the 6th house, the person will have

enormous ability

to rise above his competitors and defeat his enemies.

He will be

very powerful and successful. In moolatrikona sign,

lagnesh Mars

indicates that the native can reach the top of his

field...etc."

Now this Mars (lord of lagna) is in mutual aspect with

9th lord

Moon...perhaps you can contemplate the significance of

this and give

your interpretation :-))

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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-

"cv_toronto" <cv_toronto

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:03 AM

Re: Marriage and Divorce

Thx a lot Mrs Wendy,

Just wanted to give some more feedback on this chart.

The date of 1st marriage was 18th Feb 1999

Separation happened in Mid 2000.

Divorce happened on Jan 30th 2002.

The girl is a MBBS Doc by profession & doing

reasonably good in

profession. Cleared her post graduate exam after the

divorce and

planning to go abroad.

Girl is youngest in family with no brother.

I hope it will help to analyse the chart.

waiting for other members for response regarding

marital happiness.

Thx.

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September 13, 2005

Dear Ravindramani,

Yes, I concur. 4th house showing "general happiness & contentment"

is an important consideration...always.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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"ravindramani" <ravindramani

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:08 PM