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Kuja or mangal or mars is the Lord of 2nd house in my chart. The

details of the chart is given below. Second house is Dhana Stana.

Mercury along with Sun is in Dhana Sthana as shown in the chart. But

mercury is the lord of Vyaya stana. Ans mars or kuja is in 12 th

house along with Sani.

 

So its clear that there is Parivarthana between Mars and Mercury in

2nd and 12 th house. 2nd being Dhana sthan and 12 the being vyaya

sthan, how should we infer from this chart. Should we say that he

earns money or should we that he looses money??

 

 

My question is what is the result of this parivarthana between mars

and mercury? will he gains money or will he looses money?

 

 

 

 

 

 

+--------------+

| |Mo | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+--------|

| | |Ra |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |---------|

|Ve Ke | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| |Su Me |As | Ma |

| | | | |

| | | Ju | Sa |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

 

The above is my chart and the folloing r the details:

 

B i r t h D a t e# : 08-12-1981

B i r t h D a y # : Tuesday

B i r t h T i m e# : 03:05:00

place of birth: tirupati, AP, India

J a n m a L a g n a : LIBRA

B i r t h R a s i : ARIES

B i r t h Nakshtra : Ashwini

Charana : 2

 

---

-----

Planet.Name Ra-Dg-Mt-Sc Rasi Name NakshtraName Pad

Navmansha Rasi

---

------

Ascendent 06-05-25-26 LIBRA Chitra 4

SCORPIO

M.C. 03-04-01-20 CANCER Pushya 1

LEO

SUN 07-22-06-53 SCORPIO Jayestha 2

CAPRICORN

MOON 00-03-22-42 ARIES Ashwini 2

TAURAS

MARS 05-02-29-52 VIRGO Uttara-Falguni 2

CAPRICORN

MERCURY 07-20-36-43 SCORPIO Jayestha 2

CAPRICORN

JUPITER 06-08-26-19 LIBRA Swati 1

SAGITTARIUS

* VENUS 09-05-44-02 CAPRICORN UttraShadha 3

AQUARIUS

SATURN 05-26-35-31 VIRGO Chitra 1

LEO

RAHU 03-00-51-51 CANCER Punarvasu 4

CANCER

KETU 09-00-51-51 CAPRICORN UttraShadha 2

CAPRICORN

HARSHAL 07-07-41-51 SCORPIO Anuradha 2

VIRGO

NEPTUNE 08-00-38-24 SAGITTARIUS Mula 1

ARIES

PLUTO 06-02-17-48 LIBRA Chitra 3

LIBRA

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Dear Chaitu,

 

The exchange of 2/12 lords gives rise to a difficult parivartana

yoga; namely "Dainya Yoga". It indicates expenditure on account of

(and loss of) the indications of 2nd house.

 

2nd is house of family, finances, education, memory, imagination

etc., so some difficulties in any of these areas are likely.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"chaitu3k" <chaitu3k

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:28 PM

Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

 

Kuja or mangal or mars is the Lord of 2nd house in my chart. The

details of the chart is given below. Second house is Dhana Stana.

Mercury along with Sun is in Dhana Sthana as shown in the chart. But

mercury is the lord of Vyaya stana. Ans mars or kuja is in 12 th

house along with Sani.

 

So its clear that there is Parivarthana between Mars and Mercury in

2nd and 12 th house. 2nd being Dhana sthan and 12 the being vyaya

sthan, how should we infer from this chart. Should we say that he

earns money or should we that he looses money??

 

 

My question is what is the result of this parivarthana between mars

and mercury? will he gains money or will he looses money?

 

 

B i r t h D a t e# : 08-12-1981

B i r t h D a y # : Tuesday

B i r t h T i m e# : 03:05:00

place of birth: tirupati, AP, India

J a n m a L a g n a : LIBRA

B i r t h R a s i : ARIES

B i r t h Nakshtra : Ashwini

Charana : 2

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PS: A little (almost forgotten by me) rule I was taught many years

ago is "If 12th has more ashtakavarga bindus than lst, expenditure

will be more than is comfortable for the native".

_

 

 

Dear Chaitu,

 

The exchange of 2/12 lords gives rise to a difficult parivartana

yoga; namely "Dainya Yoga". It indicates expenditure on account of

(and loss of) the indications of 2nd house.

 

2nd is house of family, finances, education, memory, imagination

etc., so some difficulties in any of these areas are likely.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"chaitu3k" <chaitu3k

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:28 PM

Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

Kuja or mangal or mars is the Lord of 2nd house in my chart. The

details of the chart is given below. Second house is Dhana Stana.

Mercury along with Sun is in Dhana Sthana as shown in the chart. But

mercury is the lord of Vyaya stana. Ans mars or kuja is in 12 th

house along with Sani.

 

So its clear that there is Parivarthana between Mars and Mercury in

2nd and 12 th house. 2nd being Dhana sthan and 12 the being vyaya

sthan, how should we infer from this chart. Should we say that he

earns money or should we that he looses money??

 

 

My question is what is the result of this parivarthana between mars

and mercury? will he gains money or will he looses money?

 

 

B i r t h D a t e# : 08-12-1981

B i r t h D a y # : Tuesday

B i r t h T i m e# : 03:05:00

place of birth: tirupati, AP, India

J a n m a L a g n a : LIBRA

B i r t h R a s i : ARIES

B i r t h Nakshtra : Ashwini

Charana : 2

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Dear Wendyji,

 

Can Parivarthan yoga be seen from Moon as well.

 

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Chaitu,

 

The exchange of 2/12 lords gives rise to a difficult

parivartana

yoga; namely "Dainya Yoga". It indicates expenditure

on account of

(and loss of) the indications of 2nd house.

 

2nd is house of family, finances, education, memory,

imagination

etc., so some difficulties in any of these areas are

likely.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"chaitu3k" <chaitu3k

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:28 PM

Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

 

Kuja or mangal or mars is the Lord of 2nd house in my

chart. The

details of the chart is given below. Second house is

Dhana Stana.

Mercury along with Sun is in Dhana Sthana as shown in

the chart. But

mercury is the lord of Vyaya stana. Ans mars or kuja

is in 12 th

house along with Sani.

 

So its clear that there is Parivarthana between Mars

and Mercury in

2nd and 12 th house. 2nd being Dhana sthan and 12 the

being vyaya

sthan, how should we infer from this chart. Should we

say that he

earns money or should we that he looses money??

 

 

My question is what is the result of this parivarthana

between mars

and mercury? will he gains money or will he looses

money?

 

 

B i r t h D a t e# : 08-12-1981

B i r t h D a y # : Tuesday

B i r t h T i m e# : 03:05:00

place of birth: tirupati, AP, India

J a n m a L a g n a : LIBRA

B i r t h R a s i : ARIES

B i r t h Nakshtra : Ashwini

Charana : 2

 

 

 

 

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Dear mrs Wendy,

Exchange may cause yoga and it is reult of bhava lords of 2 and 12.Any

parivartana( change) is always a good sign and the negative effects get

mitigated as per classical texts.But then planets,particularly malefics in 12th

aspect 2nd,say saturn 3rd aspect on 2nd or mars 8th and 7th aspects from 6th and

8th housesrespectively lead to misery(dainaya) than simple bhava lord exchange

causing a yoga like dainya yoga.

Probably yoga when to be analysed for the advantage and disadvantage of the

native,then aspects to matter.Benific aspects vitiate yoga and malefics will

have negaitive results.

krishnan

 

Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

Dear Chaitu,

 

The exchange of 2/12 lords gives rise to a difficult parivartana

yoga; namely "Dainya Yoga". It indicates expenditure on account of

(and loss of) the indications of 2nd house.

 

2nd is house of family, finances, education, memory, imagination

etc., so some difficulties in any of these areas are likely.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"chaitu3k" <chaitu3k

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:28 PM

Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

 

Kuja or mangal or mars is the Lord of 2nd house in my chart. The

details of the chart is given below. Second house is Dhana Stana.

Mercury along with Sun is in Dhana Sthana as shown in the chart. But

mercury is the lord of Vyaya stana. Ans mars or kuja is in 12 th

house along with Sani.

 

So its clear that there is Parivarthana between Mars and Mercury in

2nd and 12 th house. 2nd being Dhana sthan and 12 the being vyaya

sthan, how should we infer from this chart. Should we say that he

earns money or should we that he looses money??

 

 

My question is what is the result of this parivarthana between mars

and mercury? will he gains money or will he looses money?

 

 

B i r t h D a t e# : 08-12-1981

B i r t h D a y # : Tuesday

B i r t h T i m e# : 03:05:00

place of birth: tirupati, AP, India

J a n m a L a g n a : LIBRA

B i r t h R a s i : ARIES

B i r t h Nakshtra : Ashwini

Charana : 2

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishnan,

 

We all know that each chart has to be judged on its own merits

considering all influences that have the potential to modify (any)

given yoga..."one size" most definately does not fit all, as I'm

sure you agree.

 

However dainya (misery) yoga IS formed when a dusthana lord

exchanges with another lord (other than a dusthana). Certainly some

beneficial results may be there also but the potential difficulties

arising from this yoga cannot be brushed aside, in my opinion.

 

I agree, as I'm sure you do also, with the following:

"If the yoga forming planets have more beneficial influences, there

will (naturally) be a buffer from some of the ill effects of the

yoga. The yoga will not indicate consistently bad effects; there

will be a bit of relief during the antardasas of any beneficial

planets that are creating the Subha Yoga. If the yoga forming

planets have more malefic influences, the effects of the yoga will

be particularly difficult and stressful."

 

In the chart we speak of Saturn does indeed aspect 2nd from 12th,

however I would not call this a malefic aspect as Saturn, dispositor

of lagnesh Venus, owns 4th/5th bhavas, the houses of mind (emotional

and intellectual). This suggests to me that the native has the

intellectual and emotional fortitude to persevere and, with hard

work, may overcome the potential difficulties due to this yoga.

 

The transits at the moment are less than favourable with Ketu and

Jupiter transiting 12th house along with debilitated lagnesh Venus.

Jupiter, lord of 3rd house of initiative (effort put in to achieve

desires), transiting pratyantar lord Saturn along with secretive

Ketu, planet of hindrances (who occupies 3rd) is not the best

influence to strengthen one's initiative(Jupiter), perseverance and

ability to work hard(Saturn)...wouldn't you agree?

 

The aspect of transiting Mars from Aries might well have a positive

influence on finances but Mars is a first rate malefic for this

native and his aspect on Mercury (intellect/learning) and Sun

(karaka for lagna) is unfavourable, in my opinion...

 

Of course we all look at a chart differently and (generally) only

see what we're looking at. I therefore look forward to looking again

at this yoga through your (and others) eyes :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"vattem krishnan" <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:59 PM

Re: Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

Dear mrs Wendy,

Exchange may cause yoga and it is reult of bhava lords of 2 and

12.Any parivartana( change) is always a good sign and the negative

effects get mitigated as per classical texts.But then

planets,particularly malefics in 12th aspect 2nd,say saturn 3rd

aspect on 2nd or mars 8th and 7th aspects from 6th and 8th

housesrespectively lead to misery(dainaya) than simple bhava lord

exchange causing a yoga like dainya yoga.

Probably yoga when to be analysed for the advantage and disadvantage

of the native,then aspects to matter.Benific aspects vitiate yoga

and malefics will have negaitive results.

krishnan

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Dear Nilesh,

 

As I'm sure you know, we're taught to judge all planetary positions

from Lagna, Chandra and Surya. However, to the best of my knowledge,

Yogas such as parivartana are seen primarily from lagna.

 

Having said that, I think it's worthwhile considering all yogas as

they relate to each house i.e; from lagna we see ourselves, from 4th

we see the many influences on mother, from 2nd influences on

family...and so forth.

 

Other learned may, hopefully, offer more on this.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

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"nilesh joshi" <niljoshi27

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:07 PM

Re: Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

Dear Wendyji,

 

Can Parivarthan yoga be seen from Moon as well.

 

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

I think in my previous mail I think I could not make myself more clear in the

context of parivartana.May be the yoga under cloud may be "dainya"or for that

may be any other term.Privartana Yogas will be more on positive side but not

dismal.

As suggested I would prefer to have a relook in the forgoing effort made by you

on this chart.

with best wishes

krishnan

 

Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

Dear Krishnan,

 

We all know that each chart has to be judged on its own merits

considering all influences that have the potential to modify (any)

given yoga..."one size" most definately does not fit all, as I'm

sure you agree.

 

However dainya (misery) yoga IS formed when a dusthana lord

exchanges with another lord (other than a dusthana). Certainly some

beneficial results may be there also but the potential difficulties

arising from this yoga cannot be brushed aside, in my opinion.

 

I agree, as I'm sure you do also, with the following:

"If the yoga forming planets have more beneficial influences, there

will (naturally) be a buffer from some of the ill effects of the

yoga. The yoga will not indicate consistently bad effects; there

will be a bit of relief during the antardasas of any beneficial

planets that are creating the Subha Yoga. If the yoga forming

planets have more malefic influences, the effects of the yoga will

be particularly difficult and stressful."

 

In the chart we speak of Saturn does indeed aspect 2nd from 12th,

however I would not call this a malefic aspect as Saturn, dispositor

of lagnesh Venus, owns 4th/5th bhavas, the houses of mind (emotional

and intellectual). This suggests to me that the native has the

intellectual and emotional fortitude to persevere and, with hard

work, may overcome the potential difficulties due to this yoga.

 

The transits at the moment are less than favourable with Ketu and

Jupiter transiting 12th house along with debilitated lagnesh Venus.

Jupiter, lord of 3rd house of initiative (effort put in to achieve

desires), transiting pratyantar lord Saturn along with secretive

Ketu, planet of hindrances (who occupies 3rd) is not the best

influence to strengthen one's initiative(Jupiter), perseverance and

ability to work hard(Saturn)...wouldn't you agree?

 

The aspect of transiting Mars from Aries might well have a positive

influence on finances but Mars is a first rate malefic for this

native and his aspect on Mercury (intellect/learning) and Sun

(karaka for lagna) is unfavourable, in my opinion...

 

Of course we all look at a chart differently and (generally) only

see what we're looking at. I therefore look forward to looking again

at this yoga through your (and others) eyes :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"vattem krishnan" <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:59 PM

Re: Parivarthana Yoga Confusion

 

 

Dear mrs Wendy,

Exchange may cause yoga and it is reult of bhava lords of 2 and

12.Any parivartana( change) is always a good sign and the negative

effects get mitigated as per classical texts.But then

planets,particularly malefics in 12th aspect 2nd,say saturn 3rd

aspect on 2nd or mars 8th and 7th aspects from 6th and 8th

housesrespectively lead to misery(dainaya) than simple bhava lord

exchange causing a yoga like dainya yoga.

Probably yoga when to be analysed for the advantage and disadvantage

of the native,then aspects to matter.Benific aspects vitiate yoga

and malefics will have negaitive results.

krishnan

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software

 

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web.

 

jyotish-vidya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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