Formation of Mangalik Dosha in the Horoscope -DOUBT

July 18, 2005

Hello Angel,

Considering Mrs has special aspects like 4th and 8th it is important these

aspects with reference to these bhavas from Ascdt have to be considered.Also due

to 4th and 8th houses in any body's chart always represent moksha

bahvas.Influence of mars on these bhavas as they are next to marakas(3rd and

7th) also indicate(through bhavat the aspects of 2nd to 3rd and to 7th)

growth,kutumba bhavas.Once we consider 2nd from lagna has no specific role and

say in considering the manglik doshas.

Sages while opining have mentioned many other things with reference avastha of

the Mars planet and the sign posited there and also aspects of saturn.

while we judge mangalik dosha we consider all these issues and confirm before we

hurry to say about manglik doshas.

If the native in his horoscope has already passed through Mars dasa and happened

to be beyond 30years there is no point in bringing about mangalik bhava issues.

what is relevent is to take into consideration is the Ascdt (1st house) than

2nd.Perhaps Parasaras wisdom by and large in ommitting 2nd looks to be

appropriate.

>From general stand point of view when we really come to assess importance of

Mars in the chart we also take the all other houses and bhavas.

krishnan

angel <angelgoel wrote:

hi all

As per astrological classics, Mars placement in the

1st, 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house from ascendant

(Lagna), Moon and Venus results in the Mangalik Dosha.

But Sage Prashar omits 2nd house but others omit 1st

house from this dosha.

SO while matching horroscope what shud be considered ?

many thanks

angel goel

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July 20, 2005

Dear Shri Angel,

I have often heard that Mars in the 1st house does not constitute Kuja dosha.

Both my lagna and rasi are the same and Mars as the owner of that house is

situated there. Realizing the seriousness of the situation I have steered clear

of arguments or avoided disputes with my wife. In fact I did all I can to make

her life as happy as possible. However, that did not deter her from distancing

herself from me when the proverbial pond dried up. This happened when I was

past the 27 years. So, the fact that Mars is not mangalik in the 1st house and

that Kuja dosha ceases upon one attaining 27 years is not at all correct.

David

angel <angelgoel wrote:

Hi all

Thanks for detailed reply

Actually I was looking at horoscope matching of two

individuals-i tried at various sites for match

making.Almost all the sites gave guna matching of

24-26 points.

Now one of the sites gave "Boy is mangalik and girl is

not" so it is not advisiable. Thus I started looking

deep into...i saw that boy has mars in 1st house with

cancer asc(that is mars is debiliated in boy's rasi

chart).But Girl has Mars in 9th house with scorpio asc

(that is mars is debiliated in girl's rasi chart).

While searching for this -- i saw that some people do

not consider mars presence in 1st as mangalik dosha.

Boy's nakshatra : Ardra

Girl' nakshatra : Swati

Moreover, Boy is mangalik (1st house mars) from rasi

chart.He is not mangalik from moon chart.

Both Boy and girl are 27 complete right now and most

probably by the time of marriage both will be 28---And

both of them have debilitated mars.

I want opinion of you people on this

many thanks

angel goel

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--- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

> Hello Madhav ji,

> Probably what Angel is looking for is the approach

> of Astrologer's and a straight jacket opinion

> "whether Parasar is appropriate or other's!

> while i go with your stand and reconcile to:marital

> life was not peaceful up to the age of 28 years of

> native. in these cases to avoid such apprehension

> astrologers generally advice natives of ashtem

> mangel to marry after age of 28

> But to answer Angel Iam of the opinion we look in

> the horoscopes of boy and girl following Parashara

> principles.They are amply clear and lagna gains

> importance from several angles over 2nd house.

> In the analysis it is certain a person has lot to

> reveal through the strength and weakness of I house.

> 2 nd 2nd and let us by pass and stand by parasar ji

> for valid reasons

> krishnan

>

> madhav chaturvedi <madhav_daraganj

> wrote:

> hello Angel

>

> manglik dosh is very tricky matter for a vedic

> astrologer, because in india many people give very

> importance to kundli of Mangli native. there are

> number of principles for manglik dosh and how can a

> native get rid of this dosh. as far as placement of

> mars in first and second house from the lagna, both

> house is important for the marital life. if mars is

> placed in first house than it will have full aspect

> on seventh and eight house.If mars is in second

> house it will have full aspect on fifth, eight and

> ninth house, which crucial role in marital life.

> But In actual practice placement of mangel in

> ashtem bhav is a searious matter. in such cases if

> marriage is performed before the age of 28 years

> marital life will not be a smooth sailing. In such

> cases there is always a apprehension of Death or

> some serious accident of a life partner, divorce,

> separation 0r tension between husband and wife. I

> have many examples in which marriage is performed

> before the age of 28 years and marital life was not

> peaceful up to the age of 28 years of native. in

> these cases to avoid such apprehension astrologers

> generally advice natives of ashtem mangel to marry

> after age of 28.

> madhav

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July 20, 2005

Hello Angel,

As I said in one of my mail is:do not always ascribe misdeeds of married life to

mars dosha.Not necessary.Even if there is no dosha in several cases marriages

become painful.if we Astrologer address this from the stand point of kuja dosha

we are certainly not correct.I would like to say kuja dosha is more an exception

than as a general dictum.Astrology as an indicative science has many things to

suggest.

may be it is time i put some facts:

in one case of marriage of a girl i went to an octogenerian and a retired prof

in Astrology with mars in 12th and with a horoscope of another boy who has no

such issues and intersted in getting married with the girl.The prof by name

Kalyan Dutt verma advocated me to go ahead and perform marriage.only thing is

you give 1 gm of gold to any brahmin as a daan.The mars dosha will get nullified

and no harm will take place.

So as learned persons we see the horoscope from several other angles and assess

than only do research on such (evil) combinations.if marriages take place it is

of genuine need and approach of two." if they have an ardent desire and feel

confident:"And

both of them have debilitated mars." allow them by giving the benifit of getting

married.

In case you explain of the issues of Mars and get reconciled there is very

little role we as astrologers in thoses cases to do.

Marriages last of both want the same and perish if they start disliking.Through

our Astrology we can only make indications and offer remedies.All remedies in

the cases of genuine needs work well.No harm takes place.

krishnan

David Andrews <andrews635 wrote: