Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

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Dear Friends,

I read few articles on jupiter effect in different houses on this

group. I just wanted to know if anyone having Debilitated jupiter in

12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to Lagna and In navmansh

Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house. Then what should be

interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo rashi and in navmansh

also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly provide your view

friends.

Thanks

 

Regards

Kapil

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not as we see it all

 

deb is inner growth

 

exalt is outer growth

 

it is never good or bad it is the way of planetary arrangement

 

any planet in 12 is good for its karakatwa ownership jup is good for kids

wealth and education

 

in 12

 

deb may also get a lift from nech bhang and for religious activities it is a

good placement

 

jup is good in trines as well but in kendra jup never performs well

 

 

-

Kapil Raj<kapil2raj

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:11 PM

Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

Dear Friends,

I read few articles on jupiter effect in different houses on this

group. I just wanted to know if anyone having Debilitated jupiter in

12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to Lagna and In navmansh

Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house. Then what should be

interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo rashi and in navmansh

also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly provide your view

friends.

Thanks

 

Regards

Kapil

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Jigar,

The example what i gave of Debilitated jupiter in 12th has the

following details

Lagna - Aquaries

2nd house- Moon

3rd house- Venus and Rahu

4th house - Sun

5th house - Mercury and Mars

9th house - Saturn with Ketu

12th house - Jupiter

Now here the lord of the 12th house is saturn which is exalted in

9th house. Due to this does jupiter gets neech bhagna. i read

somewhere that if the lord of the house is exalted, in which the

debilitated planet is sitting then it gets neech bhagna. Of if

debilitated planet is exalted in navmansh then it gets neech bhagna.

In my given example both things satisfy. 12th lord saturn is exalted

and jupiter is exalted in navmansh.

You mention that jupiter never perform well in kendra. kendra you

mean to Say Lagna or kendra house ?

Please explain

Thanks

 

 

Regards

Kapil

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> not as we see it all

>

> deb is inner growth

>

> exalt is outer growth

>

> it is never good or bad it is the way of planetary arrangement

>

> any planet in 12 is good for its karakatwa ownership jup is good

for kids wealth and education

>

> in 12

>

> deb may also get a lift from nech bhang and for religious

activities it is a good placement

>

> jup is good in trines as well but in kendra jup never performs

well

>

>

> -

> Kapil Raj<kapil2raj@h...>

> jyotish-vidya<jyotish-

vidya>

> Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:11 PM

> Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good

or Bad ?

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> I read few articles on jupiter effect in different houses

on this

> group. I just wanted to know if anyone having Debilitated

jupiter in

> 12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to Lagna and In navmansh

> Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house. Then what should

be

> interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

> Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo rashi and in

navmansh

> also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly provide your view

> friends.

> Thanks

>

> Regards

> Kapil

>

>

>

>

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4 7 10

 

I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in 12th

 

I have a kid financially I have never done bad I have b com india

 

network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa and diploma as computer

technician in usa

 

and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a planet will work it is about

credits from past life

 

I give more importance to punyodaya ie maturity of fifth lord then bhagyodaya

or say maturity of ninth lord

 

and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very important when 1 5 9 lords mature

then life gets better

 

right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love life etc

 

dad might have face an operation or acident ur career will get direction after

32

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Kapil Raj<kapil2raj

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:29 PM

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

 

Dear Jigar,

The example what i gave of Debilitated jupiter in 12th has the

following details

Lagna - Aquaries

2nd house- Moon

3rd house- Venus and Rahu

4th house - Sun

5th house - Mercury and Mars

9th house - Saturn with Ketu

12th house - Jupiter

Now here the lord of the 12th house is saturn which is exalted in

9th house. Due to this does jupiter gets neech bhagna. i read

somewhere that if the lord of the house is exalted, in which the

debilitated planet is sitting then it gets neech bhagna. Of if

debilitated planet is exalted in navmansh then it gets neech bhagna.

In my given example both things satisfy. 12th lord saturn is exalted

and jupiter is exalted in navmansh.

You mention that jupiter never perform well in kendra. kendra you

mean to Say Lagna or kendra house ?

Please explain

Thanks

 

 

Regards

Kapil

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> not as we see it all

>

> deb is inner growth

>

> exalt is outer growth

>

> it is never good or bad it is the way of planetary arrangement

>

> any planet in 12 is good for its karakatwa ownership jup is good

for kids wealth and education

>

> in 12

>

> deb may also get a lift from nech bhang and for religious

activities it is a good placement

>

> jup is good in trines as well but in kendra jup never performs

well

>

>

> -

> Kapil Raj<kapil2raj@h...>

> jyotish-vidya<jyotish-

vidya>

> Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:11 PM

> Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good

or Bad ?

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> I read few articles on jupiter effect in different houses

on this

> group. I just wanted to know if anyone having Debilitated

jupiter in

> 12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to Lagna and In navmansh

> Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house. Then what should

be

> interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

> Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo rashi and in

navmansh

> also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly provide your view

> friends.

> Thanks

>

> Regards

> Kapil

>

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>

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Dear Jigar,

This is my wife's chart with i got married last month. I am

also software engineer and working as healthcare domain expert in a

esteemed firm. My details are as follows

Born on 30 Jan 1980 at 19:39 in dungarpur, rajasthan

Lagna - Leo - Jupiter, Mars, Rahu

Second - Saturn

Sixth - Sun Mercury

Seventh - Venus, Ketu

Eleventh - Moon

(Jupiter and Moon are in same rashies even in navmansh so gets

digbala)

What i feel for myself that i have been to ups and down mentally but

Jupiter as langadhipati has always saved me and showed me the right

path.

and my wife Chandni born on 11 Jun 1985 at 23:25 in dungarpur,

rajasthan

Lagna - Aquaries

2nd house- Moon

3rd house- Venus and Rahu

4th house - Sun

5th house - Mercury and Mars

9th house - Saturn with Ketu

12th house - Jupiter

 

 

Thanks

Regards

Kapil

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> 4 7 10

>

> I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in 12th

>

> I have a kid financially I have never done bad I have b com

india

>

> network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa and diploma as

computer technician in usa

>

> and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a planet will work it

is about credits from past life

>

> I give more importance to punyodaya ie maturity of fifth lord

then bhagyodaya or say maturity of ninth lord

>

> and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very important when 1 5 9

lords mature then life gets better

>

> right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love life etc

>

> dad might have face an operation or acident ur career will get

direction after 32

> -

> Kapil Raj<kapil2raj@h...>

> jyotish-vidya<jyotish-

vidya>

> Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:29 PM

> Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House

Good or Bad ?

>

>

>

> Dear Jigar,

> The example what i gave of Debilitated jupiter in 12th has

the

> following details

> Lagna - Aquaries

> 2nd house- Moon

> 3rd house- Venus and Rahu

> 4th house - Sun

> 5th house - Mercury and Mars

> 9th house - Saturn with Ketu

> 12th house - Jupiter

> Now here the lord of the 12th house is saturn which is exalted

in

> 9th house. Due to this does jupiter gets neech bhagna. i read

> somewhere that if the lord of the house is exalted, in which the

> debilitated planet is sitting then it gets neech bhagna. Of if

> debilitated planet is exalted in navmansh then it gets neech

bhagna.

> In my given example both things satisfy. 12th lord saturn is

exalted

> and jupiter is exalted in navmansh.

> You mention that jupiter never perform well in kendra. kendra

you

> mean to Say Lagna or kendra house ?

> Please explain

> Thanks

>

>

> Regards

> Kapil

> jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah"

<jigershah@m...>

> wrote:

> > not as we see it all

> >

> > deb is inner growth

> >

> > exalt is outer growth

> >

> > it is never good or bad it is the way of planetary arrangement

> >

> > any planet in 12 is good for its karakatwa ownership jup is

good

> for kids wealth and education

> >

> > in 12

> >

> > deb may also get a lift from nech bhang and for religious

> activities it is a good placement

> >

> > jup is good in trines as well but in kendra jup never

performs

> well

> >

> >

> > -

> > Kapil Raj<kapil2raj@h...>

> > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-

> vidya>

> > Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:11 PM

> > Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House

Good

> or Bad ?

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > I read few articles on jupiter effect in different

houses

> on this

> > group. I just wanted to know if anyone having Debilitated

> jupiter in

> > 12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to Lagna and In

navmansh

> > Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house. Then what

should

> be

> > interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

> > Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo rashi and in

> navmansh

> > also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly provide your

view

> > friends.

> > Thanks

> >

> > Regards

> > Kapil

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Jiger Shah,

 

I like your interpretation, but in fact your Jupiter

is not debilitated, and you probably already know it

is actually exalted because of its retrograde status.

 

Just thought I'd point this out because many people

that read these emails do not have the same level of

astrology knowledge as others.

 

A debilitated planet will harm the house it is in and

the houses it rules will be weak, these houses will be

a soft spot for potencial bad transits and dashas.

 

Regards, Rui

 

--- jiger shah <jigershah wrote:

 

> 4 7 10

>

> I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in 12th

>

> I have a kid financially I have never done bad I

> have b com india

>

> network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa and

> diploma as computer technician in usa

>

> and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a planet

> will work it is about credits from past life

>

> I give more importance to punyodaya ie maturity of

> fifth lord then bhagyodaya or say maturity of

> ninth lord

>

> and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very important

> when 1 5 9 lords mature then life gets better

>

> right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love life

> etc

>

> dad might have face an operation or acident ur

> career will get direction after 32

> -

> Kapil Raj<kapil2raj

> To:

>

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

>

> Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:29 PM

> Re: Debilitated Jupiter

> in 12th House Good or Bad ?

>

>

>

> Dear Jigar,

> The example what i gave of Debilitated

> jupiter in 12th has the

> following details

> Lagna - Aquaries

> 2nd house- Moon

> 3rd house- Venus and Rahu

> 4th house - Sun

> 5th house - Mercury and Mars

> 9th house - Saturn with Ketu

> 12th house - Jupiter

> Now here the lord of the 12th house is saturn

> which is exalted in

> 9th house. Due to this does jupiter gets neech

> bhagna. i read

> somewhere that if the lord of the house is

> exalted, in which the

> debilitated planet is sitting then it gets neech

> bhagna. Of if

> debilitated planet is exalted in navmansh then it

> gets neech bhagna.

> In my given example both things satisfy. 12th lord

> saturn is exalted

> and jupiter is exalted in navmansh.

> You mention that jupiter never perform well in

> kendra. kendra you

> mean to Say Lagna or kendra house ?

> Please explain

> Thanks

>

>

> Regards

> Kapil

> jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah"

> <jigershah@m...>

> wrote:

> > not as we see it all

> >

> > deb is inner growth

> >

> > exalt is outer growth

> >

> > it is never good or bad it is the way of

> planetary arrangement

> >

> > any planet in 12 is good for its karakatwa

> ownership jup is good

> for kids wealth and education

> >

> > in 12

> >

> > deb may also get a lift from nech bhang and for

> religious

> activities it is a good placement

> >

> > jup is good in trines as well but in kendra

> jup never performs

> well

> >

> >

> > -

> > Kapil Raj<kapil2raj@h...>

> > To:

> jyotish-vidya<jyotish-

> vidya>

> > Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:11 PM

> > Debilitated Jupiter

> in 12th House Good

> or Bad ?

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > I read few articles on jupiter effect in

> different houses

> on this

> > group. I just wanted to know if anyone having

> Debilitated

> jupiter in

> > 12th house and In Chalit Kundali moved to

> Lagna and In navmansh

> > Exalted and sitting with venus in 10th house.

> Then what should

> be

> > interpreated as far as jupiter is concerned.

> > Infect i have jupiter sitting in Lagna in leo

> rashi and in

> navmansh

> > also its in same rashi so gets digbala. Kindly

> provide your view

> > friends.

> > Thanks

> >

> > Regards

> > Kapil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rui,

 

 

> I like your interpretation, but in fact your Jupiter

> is not debilitated, and you probably already know it

> is actually exalted because of its retrograde status.

 

We need to think these ideas through carefully before accepting them

as hard facts, don't you agree?

 

First and foremost a debilitated planet is never going to act as an

exalted planet in spite of other conditions (such as neech-bhanga or

retrograde motion). Certainly these conditions may add another

dimension and, in certain instances, some good results (along with

negative) can come about.

 

The correct interpretation of a debilitated planet is that it's

ability to "do good" is nil...the temperament of the planet itself

is thwarted by the sign it occupies. Imagine yourself occupying a

house who's owner is so opposed to you that you're unable to

function in a positive way...it's said that as soon as a planet

crosses its degree of exaltation and begins travelling towards its

degree of debilitation its ability to bring "absolute good" is

proportionately diminished.

 

Which brings us to the condition of Rx motion. The influence of a

retrograde planet (positive or negative) is more strongly felt in

the house it occupies due to its slower motion and closer proximity

to earth. It's my opinion that if a planet, approaching its degree

of debilitation, is in Rx motion, we MAY? be able to understand the

notion that it can behave as if exalted because it is in fact moving

away from debilitation and has gained motional strength. If however,

the Rx planet has passed it's degree of debilitation, we find then

that it is now moving back towards its degree of debilitation...do

you see the difference?

 

If my memory serves me Jiger felt the impact of Rx Jupiter's

debilitation most severely early in its mahadasa...do you recall,

Jiger, your very first query some years ago wanting to know why you

found yourself in the situation you were in. I'm sure you know what

I'm refering to...I'll leave it to you to comment on the specifics

(if you wish).

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

 

> --- jiger shah <jigershah@m...> wrote:

>

> > 4 7 10

> >

> > I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in 12th

> >

> > I have a kid financially I have never done bad I

> > have b com india

> >

> > network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa and

> > diploma as computer technician in usa

> >

> > and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a planet

> > will work it is about credits from past life

> >

> > I give more importance to punyodaya ie maturity of

> > fifth lord then bhagyodaya or say maturity of

> > ninth lord

> >

> > and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very important

> > when 1 5 9 lords mature then life gets better

> >

> > right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love life

> > etc

> >

> > dad might have face an operation or acident ur

> > career will get direction after 32

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

Your reasoning seems to be logical, but from jigar's

email regarding his successes, I think it shows that

his Jupiter is far from debilitated and its retrograde

status, making it exalted, would account for such

sucesses, dont you think? I believe it is actually a

good example of how those ideas can be facts, not hard

facts, as you say, but even so facts that would help

us interpretate events.

Of course, everything needs to be thought over, like

you say, but I believe it is better to face people

with the truth, rather than giving them false hopes.

Kind regards, Rui.

 

--- wenvasuk <wenvas wrote:

 

> Dear Rui,

>

>

> > I like your interpretation, but in fact your

> Jupiter

> > is not debilitated, and you probably already know

> it

> > is actually exalted because of its retrograde

> status.

>

> We need to think these ideas through carefully

> before accepting them

> as hard facts, don't you agree?

>

> First and foremost a debilitated planet is never

> going to act as an

> exalted planet in spite of other conditions (such as

> neech-bhanga or

> retrograde motion). Certainly these conditions may

> add another

> dimension and, in certain instances, some good

> results (along with

> negative) can come about.

>

> The correct interpretation of a debilitated planet

> is that it's

> ability to "do good" is nil...the temperament of the

> planet itself

> is thwarted by the sign it occupies. Imagine

> yourself occupying a

> house who's owner is so opposed to you that you're

> unable to

> function in a positive way...it's said that as soon

> as a planet

> crosses its degree of exaltation and begins

> travelling towards its

> degree of debilitation its ability to bring

> "absolute good" is

> proportionately diminished.

>

> Which brings us to the condition of Rx motion. The

> influence of a

> retrograde planet (positive or negative) is more

> strongly felt in

> the house it occupies due to its slower motion and

> closer proximity

> to earth. It's my opinion that if a planet,

> approaching its degree

> of debilitation, is in Rx motion, we MAY? be able to

> understand the

> notion that it can behave as if exalted because it

> is in fact moving

> away from debilitation and has gained motional

> strength. If however,

> the Rx planet has passed it's degree of

> debilitation, we find then

> that it is now moving back towards its degree of

> debilitation...do

> you see the difference?

>

> If my memory serves me Jiger felt the impact of Rx

> Jupiter's

> debilitation most severely early in its

> mahadasa...do you recall,

> Jiger, your very first query some years ago wanting

> to know why you

> found yourself in the situation you were in. I'm

> sure you know what

> I'm refering to...I'll leave it to you to comment on

> the specifics

> (if you wish).

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> > --- jiger shah <jigershah@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > 4 7 10

> > >

> > > I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in

> 12th

> > >

> > > I have a kid financially I have never done bad

> I

> > > have b com india

> > >

> > > network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa

> and

> > > diploma as computer technician in usa

> > >

> > > and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a

> planet

> > > will work it is about credits from past life

> > >

> > > I give more importance to punyodaya ie

> maturity of

> > > fifth lord then bhagyodaya or say maturity of

> > > ninth lord

> > >

> > > and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very

> important

> > > when 1 5 9 lords mature then life gets

> better

> > >

> > > right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love

> life

> > > etc

> > >

> > > dad might have face an operation or acident ur

> > > career will get direction after 32

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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dear wendy

 

you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

 

but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari shani being 12

th lord

 

it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could have been

worse as saturn

 

rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha dasha lord rahu

 

my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain it better that

afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

 

and I was running sat sat dasha

 

but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the event ita all

good its all learning for all of us

kind regs jiger shah

-

RPM<rupamede

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Monday, July 04, 2005 1:42 PM

Re: Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad

?

 

 

Dear Wendy,

Your reasoning seems to be logical, but from jigar's

email regarding his successes, I think it shows that

his Jupiter is far from debilitated and its retrograde

status, making it exalted, would account for such

sucesses, dont you think? I believe it is actually a

good example of how those ideas can be facts, not hard

facts, as you say, but even so facts that would help

us interpretate events.

Of course, everything needs to be thought over, like

you say, but I believe it is better to face people

with the truth, rather than giving them false hopes.

Kind regards, Rui.

 

--- wenvasuk <wenvas wrote:

 

> Dear Rui,

>

>

> > I like your interpretation, but in fact your

> Jupiter

> > is not debilitated, and you probably already know

> it

> > is actually exalted because of its retrograde

> status.

>

> We need to think these ideas through carefully

> before accepting them

> as hard facts, don't you agree?

>

> First and foremost a debilitated planet is never

> going to act as an

> exalted planet in spite of other conditions (such as

> neech-bhanga or

> retrograde motion). Certainly these conditions may

> add another

> dimension and, in certain instances, some good

> results (along with

> negative) can come about.

>

> The correct interpretation of a debilitated planet

> is that it's

> ability to "do good" is nil...the temperament of the

> planet itself

> is thwarted by the sign it occupies. Imagine

> yourself occupying a

> house who's owner is so opposed to you that you're

> unable to

> function in a positive way...it's said that as soon

> as a planet

> crosses its degree of exaltation and begins

> travelling towards its

> degree of debilitation its ability to bring

> "absolute good" is

> proportionately diminished.

>

> Which brings us to the condition of Rx motion. The

> influence of a

> retrograde planet (positive or negative) is more

> strongly felt in

> the house it occupies due to its slower motion and

> closer proximity

> to earth. It's my opinion that if a planet,

> approaching its degree

> of debilitation, is in Rx motion, we MAY? be able to

> understand the

> notion that it can behave as if exalted because it

> is in fact moving

> away from debilitation and has gained motional

> strength. If however,

> the Rx planet has passed it's degree of

> debilitation, we find then

> that it is now moving back towards its degree of

> debilitation...do

> you see the difference?

>

> If my memory serves me Jiger felt the impact of Rx

> Jupiter's

> debilitation most severely early in its

> mahadasa...do you recall,

> Jiger, your very first query some years ago wanting

> to know why you

> found yourself in the situation you were in. I'm

> sure you know what

> I'm refering to...I'll leave it to you to comment on

> the specifics

> (if you wish).

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> > --- jiger shah <jigershah@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > 4 7 10

> > >

> > > I have same aq lagna and ded retro jup in

> 12th

> > >

> > > I have a kid financially I have never done bad

> I

> > > have b com india

> > >

> > > network engineer degree in usa and mba in usa

> and

> > > diploma as computer technician in usa

> > >

> > > and 32 onwards u will prosper its not how a

> planet

> > > will work it is about credits from past life

> > >

> > > I give more importance to punyodaya ie

> maturity of

> > > fifth lord then bhagyodaya or say maturity of

> > > ninth lord

> > >

> > > and ascend lords maturity at 36 is very

> important

> > > when 1 5 9 lords mature then life gets

> better

> > >

> > > right now ur 25th year was bad porbs with love

> life

> > > etc

> > >

> > > dad might have face an operation or acident ur

> > > career will get direction after 32

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rui,

 

Whatever is promised by a planet, whether exalted or debilitated,

will be intensified if it's also in retrograde motion (vakra

strength). And before deciding its potential one needs to consider

ALL the contributing factors. One also needs to consider the

poorvapunya that is due the native in this lifetime...in particular

the house of fortune (which in Jiger's case is owned and occupied by

Venus).

 

It was many years ago that Jiger presented the facts of his

imprisonment and how badly he was treated by others whilst he was

there. Relying on memory I had it in mind that it was his Jupiter

dasa. As it turns out he's still running Rahu dasa with dispositor

Jupiter in 12th...obviously this is why Jupiter was in my mind.

 

There are conflicting opinions regarding retrograde planets...many

holding the same view as I do and many adopting the position that a

planet's status is viewed in reverse when in Rx motion. But I wonder

if this theory might spring more from the fact that certain

calculations are done in reverse if said planet is retrograde...

 

However I have no wish to get into another "debate", I've expressed

my views and you certainly are free to disagree.

 

The sages state that a Bhava who's lord is debilitated is obstructed

as is the bhava who's lord is retrograde...so too a bhava who's lord

is in sign of enemy but the argument never arises that such a planet

is now in sign of friend if it's also retrograde...!?

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

________________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, RPM <rupamede> wrote:

> Dear Wendy,

> Your reasoning seems to be logical, but from jigar's

> email regarding his successes, I think it shows that

> his Jupiter is far from debilitated and its retrograde

> status, making it exalted, would account for such

> sucesses, dont you think? I believe it is actually a

> good example of how those ideas can be facts, not hard

> facts, as you say, but even so facts that would help

> us interpretate events.

> Of course, everything needs to be thought over, like

> you say, but I believe it is better to face people

> with the truth, rather than giving them false hopes.

> Kind regards, Rui.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jiger,

 

Thank you! Your chart is quite interesting in many ways...an

interesting life with many blessings, but some complications no

doubt :-)

 

It would be good if you could give some specific dates i.e., court

date, date of imprisonment, date of release etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_____________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

>

> but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari

shani being 12 th lord

>

> it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could

have been worse as saturn

>

> rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha

dasha lord rahu

>

> my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain

it better that afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

>

> and I was running sat sat dasha

>

> but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the

event ita all good its all learning for all of us

> kind regs jiger shah

[Guest guest]

to the group

 

as a trend that I see we all cherish exalted planets and look for break for

neech planets

 

so called neech bhang raja yoga there are 6 different conditions

for neech bhang discussed earlier one more is if deblited planets is in shubh

kartari yoga or sandiwched between two natural benifics

 

don't be partial to exalted planets

 

same six conditions when reversed and applied to exalted planets

 

can cause uaccha bhang daridra yoga just exalted planets means nothing it has o

be carefully evaluated

 

and all that can acuse uccha bhang has to be looked for

 

kind regs jiger

 

-

wenvasuk<wenvas

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Monday, July 04, 2005 9:36 PM

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

Dear Jiger,

 

Thank you! Your chart is quite interesting in many ways...an

interesting life with many blessings, but some complications no

doubt :-)

 

It would be good if you could give some specific dates i.e., court

date, date of imprisonment, date of release etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_____________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

>

> but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari

shani being 12 th lord

>

> it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could

have been worse as saturn

>

> rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha

dasha lord rahu

>

> my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain

it better that afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

>

> and I was running sat sat dasha

>

> but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the

event ita all good its all learning for all of us

> kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear wendy

 

some dated are april 26 95 landed in usa

 

july 15 95 home less in usa for 4 DAYS ( no body in this group know how it

feels like when u don't even have a brush and paste next morning to wash ur

mouth )

 

sept 22 97 false accusation of battery

 

aug 98 17th jail for 90 days out of jail on 22 oct 98

 

feb 98 stable job rise in fortune

 

year 2000 mariage april 26th

 

2001 jan very good income

 

now at this point if luck favours me a bit I will emerge

 

as financial success with currency trading at nights and work all day

 

I still work 90 hours a week with no days off

 

a palmist friend claims a very strong jup mount in my palm

 

may be in shad varg jup does get power and is in own hous in 2nd in navams as

well

 

I don't worry much when it comes to my own life I still follow geeta of lord

krishana

 

as self effort also has its own merits besides luck

 

reg jiger shah

 

 

 

-

wenvasuk<wenvas

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Monday, July 04, 2005 9:36 PM

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

Dear Jiger,

 

Thank you! Your chart is quite interesting in many ways...an

interesting life with many blessings, but some complications no

doubt :-)

 

It would be good if you could give some specific dates i.e., court

date, date of imprisonment, date of release etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_____________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

>

> but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari

shani being 12 th lord

>

> it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could

have been worse as saturn

>

> rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha

dasha lord rahu

>

> my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain

it better that afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

>

> and I was running sat sat dasha

>

> but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the

event ita all good its all learning for all of us

> kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

These r quotes of one of our member.What is of Astrological importance I feel in

these confession,the strength of 9th and10th house and the relation with the

dasa lords.

 

"I don't worry much when it comes to my own life" I still follow geeta of lord

krishana

 

as "self effort also has its own merits" besides luck

May be Geeta whether one understands or follows or not these inevitable events

can never be different from dasa results particularly transit planets.Events

occur becoz of of influence of these transit planets on those houses be it 12 th

for imprisonment or 10 th for karma and 9th for bhagya.

I feel Geeta is menat to get along and look to future bravely

krishnan

 

jiger shah <jigershah wrote:

dear wendy

 

some dated are april 26 95 landed in usa

 

july 15 95 home less in usa for 4 DAYS ( no body in this group know how it

feels like when u don't even have a brush and paste next morning to wash ur

mouth )

 

sept 22 97 false accusation of battery

 

aug 98 17th jail for 90 days out of jail on 22 oct 98

 

feb 98 stable job rise in fortune

 

year 2000 mariage april 26th

 

2001 jan very good income

 

now at this point if luck favours me a bit I will emerge

 

as financial success with currency trading at nights and work all day

 

I still work 90 hours a week with no days off

 

a palmist friend claims a very strong jup mount in my palm

 

may be in shad varg jup does get power and is in own hous in 2nd in navams as

well

 

I don't worry much when it comes to my own life I still follow geeta of lord

krishana

 

as self effort also has its own merits besides luck

 

reg jiger shah

 

 

 

-

wenvasuk<wenvas

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Monday, July 04, 2005 9:36 PM

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

Dear Jiger,

 

Thank you! Your chart is quite interesting in many ways...an

interesting life with many blessings, but some complications no

doubt :-)

 

It would be good if you could give some specific dates i.e., court

date, date of imprisonment, date of release etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_____________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

>

> but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari

shani being 12 th lord

>

> it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could

have been worse as saturn

>

> rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha

dasha lord rahu

>

> my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain

it better that afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

>

> and I was running sat sat dasha

>

> but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the

event ita all good its all learning for all of us

> kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishnan, Jiger and All,

 

Yes, I do agree Krishnan...even the saints are subject to the

planetary influences (dasas/transits). I agree also that religious-

mindedness, faith and/or awareness of our essential nature is the

key to stability in the midst of instability. Of course this is easy

to say whilst sitting comfortably in one's own surroundings but,

then again, I too have faced homelessness (Sani dasa) and it was at

that time that I was drawn most strongly to meditation...in that way

lagnesh Sani was the greatest blessing.

 

Dear Jiger,

I'm wanting to look again at the dasas/transits for the dates you

gave, but, as I'm sure you can tell by my posts, I'm still having to

pick up the mail from the web...problems with my email (and computer

generally). A bit of a headache at the moment and certainly not

conducive to clear thinking...difficult to focus on a chart when

you're battling with the computer.

 

I think I'll give it up for today and try to sort it out tomorrow :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_________________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99> wrote:

> Dear Wendy,

> These r quotes of one of our member.What is of Astrological

importance I feel in these confession,the strength of 9th and10th

house and the relation with the dasa lords.

>

> "I don't worry much when it comes to my own life" I still follow

geeta of lord krishana

>

> as "self effort also has its own merits" besides luck

> May be Geeta whether one understands or follows or not these

inevitable events can never be different from dasa results

particularly transit planets.Events occur becoz of of influence of

these transit planets on those houses be it 12 th for imprisonment

or 10 th for karma and 9th for bhagya.

> I feel Geeta is menat to get along and look to future bravely

> krishnan

>

> jiger shah <jigershah@m...> wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> some dated are april 26 95 landed in usa

>

> july 15 95 home less in usa for 4 DAYS ( no body in this group

know how it feels like when u don't even have a brush and paste

next morning to wash ur mouth )

>

> sept 22 97 false accusation of battery

>

> aug 98 17th jail for 90 days out of jail on 22 oct 98

>

> feb 98 stable job rise in fortune

>

> year 2000 mariage april 26th

>

> 2001 jan very good income

>

> now at this point if luck favours me a bit I will emerge

>

> as financial success with currency trading at nights and work all

day

>

> I still work 90 hours a week with no days off

>

> a palmist friend claims a very strong jup mount in my palm

>

> may be in shad varg jup does get power and is in own hous in 2nd

in navams as well

>

> I don't worry much when it comes to my own life I still follow

geeta of lord krishana

>

> as self effort also has its own merits besides luck

>

> reg jiger shah

[Guest guest]

dear wendy

 

one more date i forgot to give was

 

birth of daughter feb 05 2004

regs jiger

 

-

wenvasuk

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:58 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

Dear Krishnan, Jiger and All,

 

Yes, I do agree Krishnan...even the saints are subject to the

planetary influences (dasas/transits). I agree also that religious-

mindedness, faith and/or awareness of our essential nature is the

key to stability in the midst of instability. Of course this is easy

to say whilst sitting comfortably in one's own surroundings but,

then again, I too have faced homelessness (Sani dasa) and it was at

that time that I was drawn most strongly to meditation...in that way

lagnesh Sani was the greatest blessing.

 

Dear Jiger,

I'm wanting to look again at the dasas/transits for the dates you

gave, but, as I'm sure you can tell by my posts, I'm still having to

pick up the mail from the web...problems with my email (and computer

generally). A bit of a headache at the moment and certainly not

conducive to clear thinking...difficult to focus on a chart when

you're battling with the computer.

 

I think I'll give it up for today and try to sort it out tomorrow :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_________________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99> wrote:

> Dear Wendy,

> These r quotes of one of our member.What is of Astrological

importance I feel in these confession,the strength of 9th and10th

house and the relation with the dasa lords.

>

> "I don't worry much when it comes to my own life" I still follow

geeta of lord krishana

>

> as "self effort also has its own merits" besides luck

> May be Geeta whether one understands or follows or not these

inevitable events can never be different from dasa results

particularly transit planets.Events occur becoz of of influence of

these transit planets on those houses be it 12 th for imprisonment

or 10 th for karma and 9th for bhagya.

> I feel Geeta is menat to get along and look to future bravely

> krishnan

>

> jiger shah <jigershah@m...> wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> some dated are april 26 95 landed in usa

>

> july 15 95 home less in usa for 4 DAYS ( no body in this group

know how it feels like when u don't even have a brush and paste

next morning to wash ur mouth )

>

> sept 22 97 false accusation of battery

>

> aug 98 17th jail for 90 days out of jail on 22 oct 98

>

> feb 98 stable job rise in fortune

>

> year 2000 mariage april 26th

>

> 2001 jan very good income

>

> now at this point if luck favours me a bit I will emerge

>

> as financial success with currency trading at nights and work all

day

>

> I still work 90 hours a week with no days off

>

> a palmist friend claims a very strong jup mount in my palm

>

> may be in shad varg jup does get power and is in own hous in 2nd

in navams as well

>

> I don't worry much when it comes to my own life I still follow

geeta of lord krishana

>

> as self effort also has its own merits besides luck

>

> reg jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear krishnan

 

u r right on ninth and tenth are in there own houses aspecting each other

 

8th sept 1973 6.24 pm ahmedabad gujarat india

 

kind regs jiger shah

 

-

vattem krishnan

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:50 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

Dear Wendy,

These r quotes of one of our member.What is of Astrological importance I feel in

these confession,the strength of 9th and10th house and the relation with the

dasa lords.

 

"I don't worry much when it comes to my own life" I still follow geeta of lord

krishana

 

as "self effort also has its own merits" besides luck

May be Geeta whether one understands or follows or not these inevitable events

can never be different from dasa results particularly transit planets.Events

occur becoz of of influence of these transit planets on those houses be it 12 th

for imprisonment or 10 th for karma and 9th for bhagya.

I feel Geeta is menat to get along and look to future bravely

krishnan

 

jiger shah <jigershah wrote:

dear wendy

 

some dated are april 26 95 landed in usa

 

july 15 95 home less in usa for 4 DAYS ( no body in this group know how it

feels like when u don't even have a brush and paste next morning to wash ur

mouth )

 

sept 22 97 false accusation of battery

 

aug 98 17th jail for 90 days out of jail on 22 oct 98

 

feb 98 stable job rise in fortune

 

year 2000 mariage april 26th

 

2001 jan very good income

 

now at this point if luck favours me a bit I will emerge

 

as financial success with currency trading at nights and work all day

 

I still work 90 hours a week with no days off

 

a palmist friend claims a very strong jup mount in my palm

 

may be in shad varg jup does get power and is in own hous in 2nd in navams as

well

 

I don't worry much when it comes to my own life I still follow geeta of lord

krishana

 

as self effort also has its own merits besides luck

 

reg jiger shah

 

 

 

-

wenvasuk<wenvas

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>

Monday, July 04, 2005 9:36 PM

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

 

Dear Jiger,

 

Thank you! Your chart is quite interesting in many ways...an

interesting life with many blessings, but some complications no

doubt :-)

 

It would be good if you could give some specific dates i.e., court

date, date of imprisonment, date of release etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_____________________________

 

jyotish-vidya, "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

wrote:

> dear wendy

>

> you can go head and discuss it openly I care less

>

> but it was dasha of rahu shani in 1998 from moon vimshottari

shani being 12 th lord

>

> it could have been grace of jup that I got out in 64 days could

have been worse as saturn

>

> rules 2nd from rahu and occupies 7th marak from place from maha

dasha lord rahu

>

> my ascend is vargottam so vimshottari from ascend will explain

it better that afflicted saturn maha dasha had commenced

>

> and I was running sat sat dasha

>

> but sure I would love to read your logical explanation for the

event ita all good its all learning for all of us

> kind regs jiger shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>" on the web.

 

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Dear Jiger,

 

Apologies that it took so long to get back to you on this.

Unfortunately my time available on the computer is less and less

these days with so many other things demanding more time.

 

I'm quite sure you know your own chart very well and are quite

familiar with the dasas/transits at these significant times in your

life. I was interested mainly in looking at the transit of dasa lord

Rahu and his dispositor (Jupiter) during these major events. However

I'm a little uncertain about the dates...wondering why it was almost

12mths between court date, Sep 22 '97 (I presume) and sentencing,

Aug 17 '98. Also the date of release, Oct 22 '98 doesn't tally up to

90days?

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

dear wendy

 

one more date i forgot to give was

 

birth of daughter feb 05 2004

regs jiger

 

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wenvasuk

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:58 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good

or Bad ?

 

Dear Krishnan, Jiger and All,

 

Yes, I do agree Krishnan...even the saints are subject to the

planetary influences (dasas/transits). I agree also that religious-

mindedness, faith and/or awareness of our essential nature is the

key to stability in the midst of instability. Of course this is easy

to say whilst sitting comfortably in one's own surroundings but,

then again, I too have faced homelessness (Sani dasa) and it was at

that time that I was drawn most strongly to meditation...in that way

lagnesh Sani was the greatest blessing.

 

Dear Jiger,

I'm wanting to look again at the dasas/transits for the dates you

gave, but, as I'm sure you can tell by my posts, I'm still having to

pick up the mail from the web...problems with my email (and computer

generally). A bit of a headache at the moment and certainly not

conducive to clear thinking...difficult to focus on a chart when

you're battling with the computer.

 

I think I'll give it up for today and try to sort it out tomorrow

:-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_________________________________

[Guest guest]

dear wendy

 

i got charged with crime in sept 22 and arrested same day it takes a while to

resolve the case

 

i asked for trial and the resolution came up in aug 17th next year

 

in jail i had to oin the team for sometiong called a trustee to get credits

towards early release

 

so that gave me some credits so i came out early

 

regs jiger shah

 

 

 

-

Wendy Vasicek

Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:11 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good or Bad ?

 

Dear Jiger,

 

Apologies that it took so long to get back to you on this.

Unfortunately my time available on the computer is less and less

these days with so many other things demanding more time.

 

I'm quite sure you know your own chart very well and are quite

familiar with the dasas/transits at these significant times in your

life. I was interested mainly in looking at the transit of dasa lord

Rahu and his dispositor (Jupiter) during these major events. However

I'm a little uncertain about the dates...wondering why it was almost

12mths between court date, Sep 22 '97 (I presume) and sentencing,

Aug 17 '98. Also the date of release, Oct 22 '98 doesn't tally up to

90days?

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

dear wendy

 

one more date i forgot to give was

 

birth of daughter feb 05 2004

regs jiger

 

-

wenvasuk

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:58 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Debilitated Jupiter in 12th House Good

or Bad ?

 

Dear Krishnan, Jiger and All,

 

Yes, I do agree Krishnan...even the saints are subject to the

planetary influences (dasas/transits). I agree also that religious-

mindedness, faith and/or awareness of our essential nature is the

key to stability in the midst of instability. Of course this is easy

to say whilst sitting comfortably in one's own surroundings but,

then again, I too have faced homelessness (Sani dasa) and it was at

that time that I was drawn most strongly to meditation...in that way

lagnesh Sani was the greatest blessing.

 

Dear Jiger,

I'm wanting to look again at the dasas/transits for the dates you

gave, but, as I'm sure you can tell by my posts, I'm still having to

pick up the mail from the web...problems with my email (and computer

generally). A bit of a headache at the moment and certainly not

conducive to clear thinking...difficult to focus on a chart when

you're battling with the computer.

 

I think I'll give it up for today and try to sort it out tomorrow

:-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

_________________________________

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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