Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dear all, I am no one to voice my opinion in such an early stage of my astrologyv studies, but I too had doubts about the aspects of the nodes. After reading a bit about it, I chose to have my own opinion for a while. And that is just my common sense that says that if Rahu and Ketu are the head and tail (body) of the dragon, then I agree that Rahu does aspect (not sure about specific aspects though), but how can ketu aspect if he has no eyes??? As I said, this is just my common sense, but I have noticed that in astrology common sense does help a lot. It is a pity Acharya Vasudev did not supply us with an English translation of his/her quotes - forgive my ignorance, but I do not speak Sanskrit or Hindu. Regards, Rui. --- "V. Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev wrote: > Hi! > Mrs. Wendy > > I sincerely appologise for hurting you with the > sentence "the > figament of your imagination".Even you were very > quick to say that > my analysis was based on false premises. > > I have given you three quotes from BPHS itself and > it is very clear > from those quotes that Rahu and Ketu have > aspects.Would you please > once again go through those quotes. > > Thanks > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev > > > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy > Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> > wrote: > > Dear Vasudev, > > > > This (seeming) bone of contention can be quickly > resolved if you > can > > show me (in any text) the SPECIFIC aspects given > to the nodes. The > > sages have been very precise regarding the aspects > of all other > > major planets - from Sun through to Saturn - but > none have been > > given for the nodes. > > > > Why do you suppose the sages neglected such > important information?? > > > > From what you say (below) it seems that you've > attributed 9th > aspect > > to Rahu. I assume you have adopted the same > aspects as are given > to > > Jupiter (5, 7, 9)...is this correct, and, if so, > where is the > > authority for this, and how do you reconcile the > 7th house aspect? > > > > You wrote: > > >>Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the > 12th and > > 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected > by Rahu > > there.<< > > > > There are many today who give Rahu the same > aspects as Saturn; > > others give 12th house aspect, yet others give 2nd > house > > aspect...the possibilities seem to be endless. > This license to > > attribute whatever aspects we choose is due solely > to the fact > that > > no (actual) aspects are given by any of the > sages...if they had we > > wouldn't have this controversy. > > > > You said: > > >>he didn't mentioned the aspects for > > Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu > and Ketu neither > > aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of > your > > imagination.<< > > > > And again: > > >>I may agree with you that this is a > controversial subject,but > > >>saying > > that this is based on false premise doesn't go > well with open > minded > > and intellectual persons.<< > > > > Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha is one of the MANY open > minded and > > intelligent persons who seem to suffer from the > same figment of > > imagination that I do :-))) > > > > In his book "Predictive Astrology of the Hindus", > he states > > categorically that; > > "Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. > Certainly, if the > > house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that > house is > > influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this > way, according to > > traditional astrologers (of the old school), we > say that Rahu or > > Ketu are aspected by a benefic or malefic but they > do not > themselves > > come under the realm of aspects as do the other > planets." > > > > It's all well and good Vasudev, to put forward > your argument in an > > intelligent way...such arguments can be beneficial > to all > providing > > they don't turn into personal attacks such as your > remark that my > > views are simply a figment of my imagination...is > this sort of > thing > > really necessary? > > > > Thank You, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > You have a strong and forceful views,that's why > declared in a > moment > > that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. > > You seem to follow Parashara only,otherwise you > wouldn't say that > > Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. > > > > "As per Parashara (graha aspects) the nodes > neither aspect nor are > > they aspected" > > > > What about this quote,also from Parashara,and here > certainly he is > > not referring Jaimini aspects. > > > > Lagnashtame vyaye rahau papyukte,th veekshite. > > Chauradi vranapida cha sarvatraivam bhaved dwija! > > > > Rahu-antaradashaphaladhyaya.....ch.-56 stanza-5 > > > > and also about this quote. > > > > shubhyukte shubhairdrishte yogakarakasanyute. > > Kendra-trikona-labhe vaa dushchikye shubhrashige.. > > > > Dashaphaladhyay ch.-48 stanza-38 > > > > I may also quote you this shloka from Parashara > from the first > > manuscript the bombay manuscipt from which Pandit > Seetaram Jha > > decorated his version of Parashara.. > > > > Sutamadanenavantaye purnadrishtistamasya. > > Yugaldhasamgehe chardhdrishtim vadanti.. > > > > In griha-guna-swarupa-adhyaya Sage Parashara > didn't mentioned the > > exaltation-debilitation signs for Rahu and > Ketu.But at later stages > > in the Dashaphaladhyaya he mentioned this in > detail.Similary in his > > Grihasphutadrishtikathanadhyaya he didn't > mentioned the aspects for > > Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu > and Ketu neither > > aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of > your > imagination. > > > > Quote any stanza from sage's work where he > endorses your views. > > > > Most of our classics give details about 7 planets > only but if you > > want to find out anything in detail about Rahu and > Ketu you have to > > explore Vimshottari dasha system where except > Varahmihira everybody > > else talks about the aspects of Rahu and Ketu. > > > > Varahmihira in his classic Brihatjataka says that > there are other > > good works of other acharyas too and wise may find > useful details > > there. > > > > And why only Parashara,there are 17 other Acharyas > too === message truncated === _________ How much free photo storage do you get? 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