Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi all I would like to request all of you to look into this chart of a person who is doing very well in his caree- Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he does not have any financial problems in life.But he is looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done but decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very strong affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed out both the times in last five years])...When is marraige likely to happen and mind you he is very money-minded and wants to be one of the richest person in India sometime. He is very particular abt the girl also-gors for many details. He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th house. It means that his partner will be very imp for him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is ardent worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs puja every morning & evening. Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , details are :- 9 july 1976 07:15 am Latitude : 12.00 N Longitude : 92.40 E thanks angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 hi Some more details are :- > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > India > ZONE : + 5:30 & No day light saving thanks --- angel <angelgoel wrote: > > Hi all > > I would like to request all of you to look into this > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > does not have any financial problems in life.But he > is > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > for many details. > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > every morning & evening. > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > are :- > > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > > thanks > angel > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 just by what u wrote saturn aspects 7th house late marriage mariage with some one older then his or marriage with the person with some physical defect all three are the possibilities - angel<angelgoel jr<> ; jv<jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:02 AM person doing well in career Hi all I would like to request all of you to look into this chart of a person who is doing very well in his caree- Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he does not have any financial problems in life.But he is looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done but decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very strong affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed out both the times in last five years])...When is marraige likely to happen and mind you he is very money-minded and wants to be one of the richest person in India sometime. He is very particular abt the girl also-gors for many details. He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th house. It means that his partner will be very imp for him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is ardent worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs puja every morning & evening. Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , details are :- 9 july 1976 07:15 am Latitude : 12.00 N Longitude : 92.40 E thanks angel </> Links jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/> b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi Jigar Shah Ji thanks for your reply! In this chart, Along with Saturn, JUPITER is also aspecting 7th house.Moreover,Venus is vargottam and this person got his job also in venus mahadasa. For cancer asc,venus is benefic planet. Venus is planet of pleasure.But is is 12th house in rasi chart of this native. thus , What can be predicted about the nature of wife and the mutual relationship ? Also, I would like to know about the career of the person since same saturn is aspecting 10th house also which already has Ketu. Out of four,three quadrant houses are occupied by malefic. Because of presence of saturn in first house,he has a tall, lean body, dark complexion, stiff hair and limbs. One more thing,His moon is aspected by Mars *moon in 5th and mars in 2nd*. Rahu is present in 4th house for native.Will it have any effect on mother nature & health? thanks angel =================== --- jiger shah <jigershah wrote: > just by what u wrote > > saturn aspects 7th house late marriage mariage > with some one older then his or marriage with > > the person with some physical defect all three are > the possibilities > - > angel<angelgoel > jr<> ; > jv<jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:02 AM > person doing well in > career > > > > Hi all > > I would like to request all of you to look into > this > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > does not have any financial problems in life.But > he is > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was > almost > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > for many details. > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for > cancer > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > every morning & evening. > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > are :- > > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > > thanks > angel > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > </> > > > > Links > > > > jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/> > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service<>. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 he will marry in 2007 financial success will continue till 2021 - angel<angelgoel jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:12 AM Re: person doing well in career Hi Jigar Shah Ji thanks for your reply! In this chart, Along with Saturn, JUPITER is also aspecting 7th house.Moreover,Venus is vargottam and this person got his job also in venus mahadasa. For cancer asc,venus is benefic planet. Venus is planet of pleasure.But is is 12th house in rasi chart of this native. thus , What can be predicted about the nature of wife and the mutual relationship ? Also, I would like to know about the career of the person since same saturn is aspecting 10th house also which already has Ketu. Out of four,three quadrant houses are occupied by malefic. Because of presence of saturn in first house,he has a tall, lean body, dark complexion, stiff hair and limbs. One more thing,His moon is aspected by Mars *moon in 5th and mars in 2nd*. Rahu is present in 4th house for native.Will it have any effect on mother nature & health? thanks angel =================== --- jiger shah <jigershah wrote: > just by what u wrote > > saturn aspects 7th house late marriage mariage > with some one older then his or marriage with > > the person with some physical defect all three are > the possibilities > - > angel<angelgoel > jr<> ; > jv<jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:02 AM > person doing well in > career > > > > Hi all > > I would like to request all of you to look into > this > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > does not have any financial problems in life.But > he is > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was > almost > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > for many details. > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for > cancer > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > every morning & evening. > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > are :- > > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > > thanks > angel > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > </></<http://mail\ ../>> > > > > Links > > > > jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/><jyotish-vidya/</\ group/jyotish-vidya/>> > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service<<>>. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM<http://us.click..c\ om/sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== </> Links jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/> b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Hi Jiger Shah Ji thanks once again!! Can you please post some analysis/reasoning of your prediction.How did you predict the financial success & marriage year ? many thanks angel --- jiger shah <jigershah wrote: > he will marry in 2007 > > financial success will continue till 2021 > - > angel<angelgoel > To: > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> > > Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:12 AM > Re: person doing well in > career > > > Hi Jigar Shah Ji > > thanks for your reply! > > In this chart, Along with Saturn, JUPITER is also > aspecting 7th house.Moreover,Venus is vargottam > and > this person got his job also in venus mahadasa. > For cancer asc,venus is benefic planet. Venus is > planet of pleasure.But is is 12th house in rasi > chart > of this native. thus , What can be predicted > about > the nature of wife and the mutual relationship ? > > Also, I would like to know about the career of the > person since same saturn is aspecting 10th house > also > which already has Ketu. > > Out of four,three quadrant houses are occupied by > malefic. > Because of presence of saturn in first house,he > has a > tall, lean body, dark complexion, stiff hair and > limbs. > > One more thing,His moon is aspected by Mars *moon > in > 5th and mars in 2nd*. Rahu is present in 4th > house > for native.Will it have any effect on mother > nature > & health? > > thanks > angel > =================== > > --- jiger shah <jigershah wrote: > > > just by what u wrote > > > > saturn aspects 7th house late marriage mariage > > with some one older then his or marriage with > > > > the person with some physical defect all three > are > > the possibilities > > - > > angel<angelgoel > > To: > jr<> ; > > jv<jyotish-vidya> > > Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:02 AM > > person doing well in > > career > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > I would like to request all of you to look > into > > this > > chart of a person who is doing very well in > his > > caree- > > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. > Currently he > > does not have any financial problems in > life.But > > he is > > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was > > almost > > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was > done > > but > > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two > very > > strong > > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE > backed > > out > > both the times in last five years])...When is > > marraige > > likely to happen and mind you he is very > > money-minded > > and wants to be one of the richest person in > India > > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > > also-gors > > for many details. > > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for > > cancer > > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of > 7th > > house. It means that his partner will be very > imp > > for > > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. > Sun > > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He > is > > ardent > > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji > -performs > > puja > > every morning & evening. > > > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > > details > > are :- > > > > 9 july 1976 > > 07:15 am > > Latitude : 12.00 N > > Longitude : 92.40 E > > > > thanks > > angel > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > </></<http://mail\ ../>> > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/><jyotish-vidya/</\ group/jyotish-vidya/>> > > > > b.. To from this group, send an > > email to: > > > > > > jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> > > > > c.. Your use of is subject to > the > > Terms of > > > Service<<>>. > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Would you Help a Child in need? > > It is easier than you think. > > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > > > > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM<http://us.click..c\ om/sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> > > > > --~-> > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === many thanks angel goel =================== Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi! Angel, I would also like to throw some light on this horoscope.I do agree with the views of Mr. Jigger Shah that his marriage will be in 2007.In my opinion the reason for this is the dasha of Venus-Saturn and the transit of Jupiter through Scorpio. As you know that Saturn is exalted in Navamsha but hemmed between Sun and Mars in his natal chart.Saturn is also devoid of any benefic aspects anywhere in the chart.Venus the 7th lord from his moon is also combust.All these facts are pointing towards a unhappy marriage.Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the 12th and 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected by Rahu there.The are strong indiacations that even after marriage extra-marital affairs would hamper the peace of the family. As far as finances are concerned he may have few problems during Jupiter antardasha.Overall The madahsas of Moon and Mars will be fantastic for him.Venus still has few problems in store for him.He may not be careless as far as money management is concerned. Anything else.? Angel Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com jyotish-vidya, angel <angelgoel> wrote: > > Hi all > > I would like to request all of you to look into this > chart of a person who is doing very well in his caree- > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > does not have any financial problems in life.But he is > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done but > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very strong > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed out > both the times in last five years])...When is marraige > likely to happen and mind you he is very money-minded > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl also-gors > for many details. > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > house. It means that his partner will be very imp for > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is ardent > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs puja > every morning & evening. > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , details > are :- > > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > > thanks > angel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Dear Angel, It would make life a lot easier if you were to include the actual place of birth, or (at least) the time zone. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Hi all I would like to request all of you to look into this chart of a person who is doing very well in his caree- Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he does not have any financial problems in life.But he is looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done but decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very strong affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed out both the times in last five years])...When is marraige likely to happen and mind you he is very money-minded and wants to be one of the richest person in India sometime. He is very particular abt the girl also-gors for many details. He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th house. It means that his partner will be very imp for him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is ardent worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs puja every morning & evening. Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , details are :- 9 july 1976 07:15 am Latitude : 12.00 N Longitude : 92.40 E thanks angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Dear Vasudev, I have to disagree with the aspect of Rahu on planets in 12th house (gemini). Gemini is a common sign and, in this horoscope, Rahu in Libra, occupies a cardinal sign. As per the rules of "Jaimini rasi aspects" planets in cardinal signs aspect all fixed signs (bar the sign next to it). So following this system we find that Libra (holding Rahu) aspects 11th house Taurus, 2nd house Leo and 8th house Aquarius...there is no rasi dristi on 12th and, as we know, Parashara ascribes no graha aspects to the nodes. It really is unwise, in my opinion, to mix and match the two systems. Where is the logic in applying Jaimini principles along with Parashara vimsottari dasa? I think it's important to grasp the concept that, in Jaimini system, it's not the planets themselves that cast the aspect but rather the sign which is influenced by the planets occupying it...it's in this way that we can say Rahu aspects such and such a house. And, quite obviously, this can work only when used in conjunction with Jaimini (sign based) dasas. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Hi! Angel, I would also like to throw some light on this horoscope.I do agree with the views of Mr. Jigger Shah that his marriage will be in 2007.In my opinion the reason for this is the dasha of Venus-Saturn and the transit of Jupiter through Scorpio. As you know that Saturn is exalted in Navamsha but hemmed between Sun and Mars in his natal chart.Saturn is also devoid of any benefic aspects anywhere in the chart.Venus the 7th lord from his moon is also combust.All these facts are pointing towards a unhappy marriage.Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the 12th and 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected by Rahu there.The are strong indiacations that even after marriage extra-marital affairs would hamper the peace of the family. As far as finances are concerned he may have few problems during Jupiter antardasha.Overall The madahsas of Moon and Mars will be fantastic for him.Venus still has few problems in store for him.He may not be careless as far as money management is concerned. Anything else.? Angel Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Dear Mrs. Wendy, You have a strong and forceful views,that's why declared in a moment that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. You seem to follow Parashara only,otherwise you wouldn't say that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. "As per Parashara (graha aspects) the nodes neither aspect nor are they aspected" What about this quote,also from Parashara,and here certainly he is not referring Jaimini aspects. Lagnashtame vyaye rahau papyukte,th veekshite. Chauradi vranapida cha sarvatraivam bhaved dwija! Rahu-antaradashaphaladhyaya.....ch.-56 stanza-5 and also about this quote. shubhyukte shubhairdrishte yogakarakasanyute. Kendra-trikona-labhe vaa dushchikye shubhrashige.. Dashaphaladhyay ch.-48 stanza-38 I may also quote you this shloka from Parashara from the first manuscript the bombay manuscipt from which Pandit Seetaram Jha decorated his version of Parashara.. Sutamadanenavantaye purnadrishtistamasya. Yugaldhasamgehe chardhdrishtim vadanti.. In griha-guna-swarupa-adhyaya Sage Parashara didn't mentioned the exaltation-debilitation signs for Rahu and Ketu.But at later stages in the Dashaphaladhyaya he mentioned this in detail.Similary in his Grihasphutadrishtikathanadhyaya he didn't mentioned the aspects for Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of your imagination. Quote any stanza from sage's work where he endorses your views. Most of our classics give details about 7 planets only but if you want to find out anything in detail about Rahu and Ketu you have to explore Vimshottari dasha system where except Varahmihira everybody else talks about the aspects of Rahu and Ketu. Varahmihira in his classic Brihatjataka says that there are other good works of other acharyas too and wise may find useful details there. And why only Parashara,there are 17 other Acharyas too ??If there is any contradiction then we must go for which one is applicable and which one is not, and that is done by many comentrators i.e. Bhattotpala while commenting on the works of Varahmihira did succesfully that in a great style.Varahmihira in his Brihat-Jataka didn't mention Rahu and Ketu(Only twice in his entire book).Does that mean he was against using them or not wanted to apply their results.He also not mentioned Vimshottari dasha, what does that mean?? I may agree with you that this is a controversial subject,but saying that this is based on false premise doesn't go well with open minded and intellectual persons. There are classical works which mentions the aspects of Rahu and Ketu i.e. Kalidasa in his Uttarakalamritam advocates few principals i.e. Vipritarajyoga,Vakri Grihas and bhavat-bhavam ,you may not find them in BPHS,only the careful examination of BPHS will reveal that these are taken from the clues given by Great Sage Parashara himself.I do fear here that the length of this article will go in pages,if I try to explain this in detail ,but that if need arise ,can be done sometimes later. Anyway thanks once again.. Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Vasudev, > > I have to disagree with the aspect of Rahu on planets in 12th house > (gemini). Gemini is a common sign and, in this horoscope, Rahu in > Libra, occupies a cardinal sign. As per the rules of "Jaimini rasi > aspects" planets in cardinal signs aspect all fixed signs (bar the > sign next to it). So following this system we find that Libra > (holding Rahu) aspects 11th house Taurus, 2nd house Leo and 8th > house Aquarius...there is no rasi dristi on 12th and, as we know, > Parashara ascribes no graha aspects to the nodes. It really is > unwise, in my opinion, to mix and match the two systems. Where is > the logic in applying Jaimini principles along with Parashara > vimsottari dasa? > > I think it's important to grasp the concept that, in Jaimini system, > it's not the planets themselves that cast the aspect but rather the > sign which is influenced by the planets occupying it...it's in this > way that we can say Rahu aspects such and such a house. And, quite > obviously, this can work only when used in conjunction with Jaimini > (sign based) dasas. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Hi! > Angel, > I would also like to throw some light on this horoscope.I do agree > with the views of Mr. Jigger Shah that his marriage will be in > 2007.In my opinion the reason for this is the dasha of Venus-Saturn > and the transit of Jupiter through Scorpio. > As you know that Saturn is exalted in Navamsha but hemmed between > Sun and Mars in his natal chart.Saturn is also devoid of any benefic > aspects anywhere in the chart.Venus the 7th lord from his moon is > also combust.All these facts are pointing towards a unhappy > marriage.Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the 12th and > 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected by Rahu there.The > are strong indiacations that even after marriage extra-marital > affairs would hamper the peace of the family. > As far as finances are concerned he may have few problems during > Jupiter antardasha.Overall The madahsas of Moon and Mars will be > fantastic for him.Venus still has few problems in store for him.He > may not be careless as far as money management is concerned. > > Anything else.? > Angel > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi Mrs Wendy I realised my mistake that time itself and immediately after sending this mail,i send another mail covering the time zone and day light saving. Country : India DayLight Saving : 0 regds angel --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Dear Angel, > > It would make life a lot easier if you were to > include the actual > place of birth, or (at least) the time zone. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Hi all > > I would like to request all of you to look into this > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > does not have any financial problems in life.But he > is > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was almost > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > for many details. > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for cancer > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > every morning & evening. > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > are :- > > 9 july 1976 > 07:15 am > Latitude : 12.00 N > Longitude : 92.40 E > > thanks > angel > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi Vasudev Archarya Ji Thanks for the analysis. Can you predict something on his financial success/failure. thanks angel --- "V. Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev wrote: > Hi! > Angel, > I would also like to throw some light on this > horoscope.I do agree > with the views of Mr. Jigger Shah that his marriage > will be in > 2007.In my opinion the reason for this is the dasha > of Venus-Saturn > and the transit of Jupiter through Scorpio. > As you know that Saturn is exalted in Navamsha but > hemmed between > Sun and Mars in his natal chart.Saturn is also > devoid of any benefic > aspects anywhere in the chart.Venus the 7th lord > from his moon is > also combust.All these facts are pointing towards a > unhappy > marriage.Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with > the 12th and > 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected > by Rahu there.The > are strong indiacations that even after marriage > extra-marital > affairs would hamper the peace of the family. > As far as finances are concerned he may have few > problems during > Jupiter antardasha.Overall The madahsas of Moon and > Mars will be > fantastic for him.Venus still has few problems in > store for him.He > may not be careless as far as money management is > concerned. > > Anything else.? > Angel > > > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com jyotish-vidya, angel > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I would like to request all of you to look into > this > > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > > does not have any financial problems in life.But > he is > > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was > almost > > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > > for many details. > > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for > cancer > > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > > every morning & evening. > > > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > > are :- > > > > 9 july 1976 > > 07:15 am > > Latitude : 12.00 N > > Longitude : 92.40 E > > > > thanks > > angel > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Dear Vasudev, This (seeming) bone of contention can be quickly resolved if you can show me (in any text) the SPECIFIC aspects given to the nodes. The sages have been very precise regarding the aspects of all other major planets - from Sun through to Saturn - but none have been given for the nodes. Why do you suppose the sages neglected such important information?? >From what you say (below) it seems that you've attributed 9th aspect to Rahu. I assume you have adopted the same aspects as are given to Jupiter (5, 7, 9)...is this correct, and, if so, where is the authority for this, and how do you reconcile the 7th house aspect? You wrote: >>Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the 12th and 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected by Rahu there.<< There are many today who give Rahu the same aspects as Saturn; others give 12th house aspect, yet others give 2nd house aspect...the possibilities seem to be endless. This license to attribute whatever aspects we choose is due solely to the fact that no (actual) aspects are given by any of the sages...if they had we wouldn't have this controversy. You said: >>he didn't mentioned the aspects for Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of your imagination.<< And again: >>I may agree with you that this is a controversial subject,but >>saying that this is based on false premise doesn't go well with open minded and intellectual persons.<< Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha is one of the MANY open minded and intelligent persons who seem to suffer from the same figment of imagination that I do :-))) In his book "Predictive Astrology of the Hindus", he states categorically that; "Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets." It's all well and good Vasudev, to put forward your argument in an intelligent way...such arguments can be beneficial to all providing they don't turn into personal attacks such as your remark that my views are simply a figment of my imagination...is this sort of thing really necessary? Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Dear Mrs. Wendy, You have a strong and forceful views,that's why declared in a moment that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. You seem to follow Parashara only,otherwise you wouldn't say that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. "As per Parashara (graha aspects) the nodes neither aspect nor are they aspected" What about this quote,also from Parashara,and here certainly he is not referring Jaimini aspects. Lagnashtame vyaye rahau papyukte,th veekshite. Chauradi vranapida cha sarvatraivam bhaved dwija! Rahu-antaradashaphaladhyaya.....ch.-56 stanza-5 and also about this quote. shubhyukte shubhairdrishte yogakarakasanyute. Kendra-trikona-labhe vaa dushchikye shubhrashige.. Dashaphaladhyay ch.-48 stanza-38 I may also quote you this shloka from Parashara from the first manuscript the bombay manuscipt from which Pandit Seetaram Jha decorated his version of Parashara.. Sutamadanenavantaye purnadrishtistamasya. Yugaldhasamgehe chardhdrishtim vadanti.. In griha-guna-swarupa-adhyaya Sage Parashara didn't mentioned the exaltation-debilitation signs for Rahu and Ketu.But at later stages in the Dashaphaladhyaya he mentioned this in detail.Similary in his Grihasphutadrishtikathanadhyaya he didn't mentioned the aspects for Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of your imagination. Quote any stanza from sage's work where he endorses your views. Most of our classics give details about 7 planets only but if you want to find out anything in detail about Rahu and Ketu you have to explore Vimshottari dasha system where except Varahmihira everybody else talks about the aspects of Rahu and Ketu. Varahmihira in his classic Brihatjataka says that there are other good works of other acharyas too and wise may find useful details there. And why only Parashara,there are 17 other Acharyas too ??If there is any contradiction then we must go for which one is applicable and which one is not, and that is done by many comentrators i.e. Bhattotpala while commenting on the works of Varahmihira did succesfully that in a great style.Varahmihira in his Brihat-Jataka didn't mention Rahu and Ketu(Only twice in his entire book).Does that mean he was against using them or not wanted to apply their results.He also not mentioned Vimshottari dasha, what does that mean?? I may agree with you that this is a controversial subject,but saying that this is based on false premise doesn't go well with open minded and intellectual persons. There are classical works which mentions the aspects of Rahu and Ketu i.e. Kalidasa in his Uttarakalamritam advocates few principals i.e. Vipritarajyoga,Vakri Grihas and bhavat-bhavam ,you may not find them in BPHS,only the careful examination of BPHS will reveal that these are taken from the clues given by Great Sage Parashara himself.I do fear here that the length of this article will go in pages,if I try to explain this in detail ,but that if need arise ,can be done sometimes later. Anyway thanks once again.. Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi! Mrs. Wendy I sincerely appologise for hurting you with the sentence "the figament of your imagination".Even you were very quick to say that my analysis was based on false premises. I have given you three quotes from BPHS itself and it is very clear from those quotes that Rahu and Ketu have aspects.Would you please once again go through those quotes. Thanks Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Vasudev, > > This (seeming) bone of contention can be quickly resolved if you can > show me (in any text) the SPECIFIC aspects given to the nodes. The > sages have been very precise regarding the aspects of all other > major planets - from Sun through to Saturn - but none have been > given for the nodes. > > Why do you suppose the sages neglected such important information?? > > From what you say (below) it seems that you've attributed 9th aspect > to Rahu. I assume you have adopted the same aspects as are given to > Jupiter (5, 7, 9)...is this correct, and, if so, where is the > authority for this, and how do you reconcile the 7th house aspect? > > You wrote: > >>Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with the 12th and > 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected by Rahu > there.<< > > There are many today who give Rahu the same aspects as Saturn; > others give 12th house aspect, yet others give 2nd house > aspect...the possibilities seem to be endless. This license to > attribute whatever aspects we choose is due solely to the fact that > no (actual) aspects are given by any of the sages...if they had we > wouldn't have this controversy. > > You said: > >>he didn't mentioned the aspects for > Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu and Ketu neither > aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of your > imagination.<< > > And again: > >>I may agree with you that this is a controversial subject,but > >>saying > that this is based on false premise doesn't go well with open minded > and intellectual persons.<< > > Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha is one of the MANY open minded and > intelligent persons who seem to suffer from the same figment of > imagination that I do :-))) > > In his book "Predictive Astrology of the Hindus", he states > categorically that; > "Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are aspected. Certainly, if the > house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that house is > influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to > traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or > Ketu are aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves > come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets." > > It's all well and good Vasudev, to put forward your argument in an > intelligent way...such arguments can be beneficial to all providing > they don't turn into personal attacks such as your remark that my > views are simply a figment of my imagination...is this sort of thing > really necessary? > > Thank You, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > You have a strong and forceful views,that's why declared in a moment > that Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. > You seem to follow Parashara only,otherwise you wouldn't say that > Rahu's aspect is based on false premise. > > "As per Parashara (graha aspects) the nodes neither aspect nor are > they aspected" > > What about this quote,also from Parashara,and here certainly he is > not referring Jaimini aspects. > > Lagnashtame vyaye rahau papyukte,th veekshite. > Chauradi vranapida cha sarvatraivam bhaved dwija! > > Rahu-antaradashaphaladhyaya.....ch.-56 stanza-5 > > and also about this quote. > > shubhyukte shubhairdrishte yogakarakasanyute. > Kendra-trikona-labhe vaa dushchikye shubhrashige.. > > Dashaphaladhyay ch.-48 stanza-38 > > I may also quote you this shloka from Parashara from the first > manuscript the bombay manuscipt from which Pandit Seetaram Jha > decorated his version of Parashara.. > > Sutamadanenavantaye purnadrishtistamasya. > Yugaldhasamgehe chardhdrishtim vadanti.. > > In griha-guna-swarupa-adhyaya Sage Parashara didn't mentioned the > exaltation-debilitation signs for Rahu and Ketu.But at later stages > in the Dashaphaladhyaya he mentioned this in detail.Similary in his > Grihasphutadrishtikathanadhyaya he didn't mentioned the aspects for > Rahu and Ketu but he didn't say anywhere that Rahu and Ketu neither > aspect nor are they aspected.It is the figament of your imagination. > > Quote any stanza from sage's work where he endorses your views. > > Most of our classics give details about 7 planets only but if you > want to find out anything in detail about Rahu and Ketu you have to > explore Vimshottari dasha system where except Varahmihira everybody > else talks about the aspects of Rahu and Ketu. > > Varahmihira in his classic Brihatjataka says that there are other > good works of other acharyas too and wise may find useful details > there. > > And why only Parashara,there are 17 other Acharyas too ??If there is > any contradiction then we must go for which one is applicable and > which one is not, and that is done by many comentrators i.e. > Bhattotpala while commenting on the works of Varahmihira did > succesfully that in a great style.Varahmihira in his Brihat-Jataka > didn't mention Rahu and Ketu(Only twice in his entire book).Does > that mean he was against using them or not wanted to apply their > results.He also not mentioned Vimshottari dasha, what does that > mean?? > > I may agree with you that this is a controversial subject,but saying > that this is based on false premise doesn't go well with open minded > and intellectual persons. > > There are classical works which mentions the aspects of Rahu and > Ketu i.e. > > Kalidasa in his Uttarakalamritam advocates few principals i.e. > Vipritarajyoga,Vakri Grihas and bhavat-bhavam ,you may not find them > in BPHS,only the careful examination of BPHS will reveal that these > are taken from the clues given by Great Sage Parashara himself.I do > fear here that the length of this article will go in pages,if I try > to explain this in detail ,but that if need arise ,can be done > sometimes later. > > > Anyway thanks once again.. > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev@g... 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Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 DO IT UR SELF look at 2 and second from second and there lords look at 11 and 11th from it ie 9th and there lords 10th and its lord and strength of 5th lord and fifth house look at jupiter 2nd fifth and 9th from jup look at 11th from mercury look at strenght of this 2 5 9 10 11 lords in navams look for angle and trine lords relations look at dasha sequence native will run look at strength of lagna lord and 10 th lord do the above share with us all we will do the rest for you - angel<angelgoel jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:37 PM Re: Re: person doing well in career Hi Vasudev Archarya Ji Thanks for the analysis. Can you predict something on his financial success/failure. thanks angel --- "V. Vasudev Acharya" <acharya.vasudev<acharya.vasudev> wrote: > Hi! > Angel, > I would also like to throw some light on this > horoscope.I do agree > with the views of Mr. Jigger Shah that his marriage > will be in > 2007.In my opinion the reason for this is the dasha > of Venus-Saturn > and the transit of Jupiter through Scorpio. > As you know that Saturn is exalted in Navamsha but > hemmed between > Sun and Mars in his natal chart.Saturn is also > devoid of any benefic > aspects anywhere in the chart.Venus the 7th lord > from his moon is > also combust.All these facts are pointing towards a > unhappy > marriage.Moreover Venus is placed in 12th house with > the 12th and > 3rd lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun.All are aspected > by Rahu there.The > are strong indiacations that even after marriage > extra-marital > affairs would hamper the peace of the family. > As far as finances are concerned he may have few > problems during > Jupiter antardasha.Overall The madahsas of Moon and > Mars will be > fantastic for him.Venus still has few problems in > store for him.He > may not be careless as far as money management is > concerned. > > Anything else.? > Angel > > > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com<http://www.acharyavasudev.com/> > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, angel > <angelgoel> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I would like to request all of you to look into > this > > chart of a person who is doing very well in his > caree- > > Making lots of money and hoping jobs. Currently he > > does not have any financial problems in life.But > he is > > looking forward to marry -- his marriage was > almost > > fixed Three-Times (no religious ceremony was done > but > > decision was taken in minds of two ppl[two very > strong > > affairs happened & one not-so-strong BUT HE backed > out > > both the times in last five years])...When is > marraige > > likely to happen and mind you he is very > money-minded > > and wants to be one of the richest person in India > > sometime. He is very particular abt the girl > also-gors > > for many details. > > He has cancer lagna with saturn in it.And for > cancer > > lagna,sat is malefic planet but it is lord of 7th > > house. It means that his partner will be very imp > for > > him in his life.Rahu/Ketu in quadrants itself. Sun > > occupies 12th house.Moon is in 5th house. He is > ardent > > worshipper of Ganesh Ji and Hanuman Ji -performs > puja > > every morning & evening. > > > > Incase you have time,we can discuss on this , > details > > are :- > > > > 9 july 1976 > > 07:15 am > > Latitude : 12.00 N > > Longitude : 92.40 E > > > > thanks > > angel > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > </> > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > http://us.click./sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM<http://us.click..c\ om/sTR6_D/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM> > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > many thanks angel goel =================== Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html<http://discover./stayintouch\ ..html> Links jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/> b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dear Vasudev, First, I did check the sloka you referred to in my copy of BPHS. However, presuming you're referring to Rahu antardasa in dasa of Jupiter, that seems to be sloka 72-75 of Ch.56. I cannot really be sure which sloka you're referring to unless you translate it to English? Again I pose the question, 'what specific aspects are given by the sages?' Unless you can tell me this I have to assume that the term 'aspect' is referring (either) to conjunction or aspect to the house occupied by Rahu. We know that the nodes do not act independently...their effect manifesting through their dispositor etc.. In which case, if the bhava holding Rahu is aspected by a particular planet, this influence will undoubtedly manifest via the bhava lord (Rahu's dispositor). Of course it's not my place to convince you either way...you're as entitled to your view as I am to mine. I will request (again) however that you point me to a sloka, any sloka anywhere that actually states what the nodal aspects are. If, as I suspect, no such sloka exists we have to ask the question, WHY? how could the sages have neglected to provide such important information?? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Hi! Mrs. Wendy I sincerely appologise for hurting you with the sentence "the figament of your imagination".Even you were very quick to say that my analysis was based on false premises. I have given you three quotes from BPHS itself and it is very clear from those quotes that Rahu and Ketu have aspects.Would you please once again go through those quotes. Thanks Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dear Vasudev, You Wrote: "I sincerely appologise for hurting you with the sentence "the figament of your imagination".Even you were very quick to say that my analysis was based on false premises." Can you tell me where in the below post I said 'your analysis was based on false premises'. Or are you perhaps referring to a private conversation??? _ - "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, June 12, 2005 6:44 PM Re: Re: person doing well in career Dear Vasudev, I have to disagree with the aspect of Rahu on planets in 12th house (gemini). Gemini is a common sign and, in this horoscope, Rahu in Libra, occupies a cardinal sign. As per the rules of "Jaimini rasi aspects" planets in cardinal signs aspect all fixed signs (bar the sign next to it). So following this system we find that Libra (holding Rahu) aspects 11th house Taurus, 2nd house Leo and 8th house Aquarius...there is no rasi dristi on 12th and, as we know, Parashara ascribes no graha aspects to the nodes. It really is unwise, in my opinion, to mix and match the two systems. Where is the logic in applying Jaimini principles along with Parashara vimsottari dasa? I think it's important to grasp the concept that, in Jaimini system, it's not the planets themselves that cast the aspect but rather the sign which is influenced by the planets occupying it...it's in this way that we can say Rahu aspects such and such a house. And, quite obviously, this can work only when used in conjunction with Jaimini (sign based) dasas. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hi! Mrs. Wendy Greetings! Hereunder are given the english translation of all three shlokas. The first shloka is from the antar dasha in the dasha of Rahu.This is the 5th shloka of this chapter. states.. Should Rahu is placed in 8th or 12th from lagna and associated with or aspected by a malefic,there will be danger from thieves and distress from wounds. The next shloka from the effects of dashas.This is the 38th shloka of this chapter. If Rahu is associated with or recieves a aspect from benefics,be in a benefic rashi or be in the 1/4/7/10 and 3/11 houses,there will be during his dasha all kind of comforts,by the beneficence of the government,acquisition of wealth through a foreign government or sovereign and felicity at home. The third shloka is from Bombay Edition of 1916 A.D. the very first manuscript which came into limelight.Chapter 51,shloka 26.Remind you, this IS the only version where shlokas are not missing,whereas in other editions i.e. one from Pt. Seetaram Jha's varanasi edition of 1945 A.D. has many sholkas as well as chapters missing.This one is being widely used these days,whereas the Bombay Edition is out of print as far as my knowledge goes. Rahu has full aspect on the house etc. located 5th,7th,9th and 12th from it.It has half the aspects on the houses 2nd and 10th from it.It aspects with a quarter strength the house etc. 3rd and 6th from it and is blind towards the house it occupies. I wish to tell you that these shlokas are taken from the part where the sage explaining the results of Vimshottari dasha system and the sage like Parashara can not make a mistake using Jaimini aspects here.These are necessarily the parashari aspects as Vimshottari dasha sysytem is exclusively parashari. Thanks Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Vasudev, > > First, I did check the sloka you referred to in my copy of BPHS. > However, presuming you're referring to Rahu antardasa in dasa of > Jupiter, that seems to be sloka 72-75 of Ch.56. I cannot really be > sure which sloka you're referring to unless you translate it to > English? > > Again I pose the question, 'what specific aspects are given by the > sages?' Unless you can tell me this I have to assume that the term > 'aspect' is referring (either) to conjunction or aspect to the house > occupied by Rahu. We know that the nodes do not act > independently...their effect manifesting through their dispositor > etc.. In which case, if the bhava holding Rahu is aspected by a > particular planet, this influence will undoubtedly manifest via the > bhava lord (Rahu's dispositor). > > Of course it's not my place to convince you either way...you're as > entitled to your view as I am to mine. I will request (again) > however that you point me to a sloka, any sloka anywhere that > actually states what the nodal aspects are. If, as I suspect, no > such sloka exists we have to ask the question, WHY? how could the > sages have neglected to provide such important information?? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Hi! > Mrs. Wendy > > I sincerely appologise for hurting you with the sentence "the > figament of your imagination".Even you were very quick to say that > my analysis was based on false premises. > > I have given you three quotes from BPHS itself and it is very clear > from those quotes that Rahu and Ketu have aspects.Would you please > once again go through those quotes. > > Thanks > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev@g... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Mr. V. Vasudev, What a great, great pity that the only sloka to give specific aspects for Rahu comes from an out-of-print manuscript that's unobtainable!? If anyone can tell me where I might get a copy of this I will be grateful. One has to wonder why the (missing?) chapters were excluded in subsequent editions? And I have to question the original source that gives, amongst others, a 7th house aspect to Rahu...I question them all actually but 7th particularly. Common sense reels at the implication of Rahu's aspect on Ketu and I cannot for one moment imagine any sage advocating that. I also find it hard to believe that such an eminent astrologer as G.K. Ojha who had studied sanskrit works on astrology since 1927 (and who's opinion I value highly) was not aware of the sloka you refer to... perhaps he was, and perhaps too, he was aware of the reason the chapters were excluded in subsequent editions. I can't believe it was because they were lost or destroyed as, by your own words, you yourself have a copy... But no mention of this was made in later editions, not even a postcript, that I'm aware of??? As for the slokas (you quote) such as the one below; "If Rahu is associated with or recieves a aspect from benefics,be in a benefic rashi or be in the 1/4/7/10 and 3/11 houses,there will be during his dasha all kind of comforts,by the beneficence of the government,acquisition of wealth through a foreign government or sovereign and felicity at home." This again was made perfectly clear (as I stated earlier) by the eminent Pandit Ojha; "Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according to traditional astrologers (of the old school), WE SAY THAT RAHU OR KETU ARE ASPECTED BY A BENEFIC OR MALEFIC but they do not themselves come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets." It seems to me that one either accepts the words of esteemed astrologers such as Pandit Ojha, R. Santhanam, P.M. Padia and the like, or we conclude that they didn't know what they were talking about, and we (God forbid) know better than they. Not only that, of course, but our own logic should tell us that the chaya-grahas (aprakasha or shadowy planets), without a physical body, would not come under the same realm of aspects as do the physical planets (Sun through to Saturn). Astronomically this is simply not feasible...and, as I'm sure you know, it behoves the astrologer to have at least a rudamentary understanding of the PHYSICAL structure of the solar system and the universe (Gola)...is this not so? But I'll leave it here now as I have no wish to sponsor any ill-feeling... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Hi! Mrs. Wendy Greetings! Hereunder are given the english translation of all three shlokas. The first shloka is from the antar dasha in the dasha of Rahu.This is the 5th shloka of this chapter. states.. Should Rahu is placed in 8th or 12th from lagna and associated with or aspected by a malefic,there will be danger from thieves and distress from wounds. The next shloka from the effects of dashas.This is the 38th shloka of this chapter. If Rahu is associated with or recieves a aspect from benefics,be in a benefic rashi or be in the 1/4/7/10 and 3/11 houses,there will be during his dasha all kind of comforts,by the beneficence of the government,acquisition of wealth through a foreign government or sovereign and felicity at home. The third shloka is from Bombay Edition of 1916 A.D. the very first manuscript which came into limelight.Chapter 51,shloka 26.Remind you, this IS the only version where shlokas are not missing,whereas in other editions i.e. one from Pt. Seetaram Jha's varanasi edition of 1945 A.D. has many sholkas as well as chapters missing.This one is being widely used these days,whereas the Bombay Edition is out of print as far as my knowledge goes. Rahu has full aspect on the house etc. located 5th,7th,9th and 12th from it.It has half the aspects on the houses 2nd and 10th from it.It aspects with a quarter strength the house etc. 3rd and 6th from it and is blind towards the house it occupies. I wish to tell you that these shlokas are taken from the part where the sage explaining the results of Vimshottari dasha system and the sage like Parashara can not make a mistake using Jaimini aspects here.These are necessarily the parashari aspects as Vimshottari dasha sysytem is exclusively parashari. Thanks Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Greetings! First you wanted to see the shlokas and when I showed them,you are shying away from the topic trying to put other logics such as 1. It can not be, 2. You can't imagine, 3. How somebody was not aware of that shloka. 4. I question the original source. etc. etc. 6. It can't be as per astronomical laws, 5. Now you want to use your common sense then why at first place you asked for that shloka. and denying the shloka's existence and feasibility altogether. The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills. Before Pt. Seetaram Jha's edition came into market around 1945,still the bombay edition had been using as a text book in BHU,and that was the only edition available at that time.How then you can say that the eminent scholar Pt. G.K.Ojha was not aware of that shloka.? There is no need to be grateful,you are most welcome to visit my house or the BHU library,and you may easily have a glance over that edition. It's not a pity that said shloka came from that source infact it is priviladge to see that edition,which was the very first available edition of BPHS. I too don't want to sponser any ill-feeling towards anybody. I just represented my views with all awareness. I leave this topic here. Best wishes Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Mr. V. Vasudev, > > What a great, great pity that the only sloka to give specific > aspects for Rahu comes from an out-of-print manuscript that's > unobtainable!? > > If anyone can tell me where I might get a copy of this I will be > grateful. > > One has to wonder why the (missing?) chapters were excluded in > subsequent editions? And I have to question the original source that > gives, amongst others, a 7th house aspect to Rahu...I question them > all actually but 7th particularly. Common sense reels at the > implication of Rahu's aspect on Ketu and I cannot for one moment > imagine any sage advocating that. > > I also find it hard to believe that such an eminent astrologer as > G.K. Ojha who had studied sanskrit works on astrology since 1927 > (and who's opinion I value highly) was not aware of the sloka you > refer to... perhaps he was, and perhaps too, he was aware of the > reason the chapters were excluded in subsequent editions. I can't > believe it was because they were lost or destroyed as, by your own > words, you yourself have a copy... But no mention of this was made > in later editions, not even a postcript, that I'm aware of??? > > As for the slokas (you quote) such as the one below; > "If Rahu is associated with or recieves a aspect from benefics,be in > a benefic rashi or be in the 1/4/7/10 and 3/11 houses,there will be > during his dasha all kind of comforts,by the beneficence of the > government,acquisition of wealth through a foreign government or > sovereign and felicity at home." > > This again was made perfectly clear (as I stated earlier) by the > eminent Pandit Ojha; > "Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of > that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, > according to > traditional astrologers (of the old school), WE SAY THAT RAHU OR > KETU ARE ASPECTED BY A BENEFIC OR MALEFIC but they do not themselves > come under the realm of aspects as do the other planets." > > It seems to me that one either accepts the words of esteemed > astrologers such as Pandit Ojha, R. Santhanam, P.M. Padia and the > like, or we conclude that they didn't know what they were talking > about, and we (God forbid) know better than they. > > Not only that, of course, but our own logic should tell us that the > chaya-grahas (aprakasha or shadowy planets), without a physical > body, would not come under the same realm of aspects as do the > physical planets (Sun through to Saturn). Astronomically this is > simply not feasible...and, as I'm sure you know, it behoves the > astrologer to have at least a rudamentary understanding of the > PHYSICAL structure of the solar system and the universe (Gola)...is > this not so? > > But I'll leave it here now as I have no wish to sponsor any > ill-feeling... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Hi! > Mrs. Wendy > Greetings! > > Hereunder are given the english translation of all three shlokas. > > The first shloka is from the antar dasha in the dasha of Rahu.This > is the 5th shloka of this chapter. > states.. > > Should Rahu is placed in 8th or 12th from lagna and associated with > or aspected by a malefic,there will be danger from thieves and > distress from wounds. > > The next shloka from the effects of dashas.This is the 38th shloka > of this chapter. > > If Rahu is associated with or recieves a aspect from benefics,be in > a benefic rashi or be in the 1/4/7/10 and 3/11 houses,there will be > during his dasha all kind of comforts,by the beneficence of the > government,acquisition of wealth through a foreign government or > sovereign and felicity at home. > > > The third shloka is from Bombay Edition of 1916 A.D. the very first > manuscript which came into limelight.Chapter 51,shloka 26.Remind > you, this IS the only version where shlokas are not missing,whereas > in other editions i.e. one from Pt. Seetaram Jha's varanasi edition > of 1945 A.D. has many sholkas as well as chapters missing.This one > is being widely used these days,whereas the Bombay Edition is out of > print as far as my knowledge goes. > > Rahu has full aspect on the house etc. located 5th,7th,9th and 12th > from it.It has half the aspects on the houses 2nd and 10th from > it.It aspects with a quarter strength the house etc. 3rd and 6th > from it and is blind towards the house it occupies. > > I wish to tell you that these shlokas are taken from the part where > the sage explaining the results of Vimshottari dasha system and the > sage like Parashara can not make a mistake using Jaimini aspects > here.These are necessarily the parashari aspects as Vimshottari > dasha sysytem is exclusively parashari. > > Thanks > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev@g... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Mr. V. Vasudev, Please don't put words in my mouth. I did NOT say that 'the eminent scholar Pt. G.K. Ojha was not aware of that sloka'... I in fact said just the opposite i.e; 'I also find it hard to believe that such an eminent astrologer as G.K. Ojha who had studied sanskrit works on astrology since 1927 (and who's opinion I value highly) was not aware of the sloka you refer to'. I also did NOT deny the slokas existance (how could I do that?). I simply questioned it's authenticity and questioned also the reason why that particular sloka has not been included in any of the subsequent editions of BPHS which are widely used as jyotish text books today?? Might I remind you that this topic came to light (between us) when you wrote to me privately requesting my comments on an article you had written about Pope Benedict XVI in which you stated that the aspect of Rahu on Jupiter makes him inclined towards occult sciences. This statement alone is so far from the truth it's laughable. He would be the last person on the face of God's earth who would ever be inclined towards occult sciences...if you had done your research properly you would know that the Church (of which he is the spiritual leader) is totally opposed to such things...totally, totally, totally!! It was then that I said to you (privately) that 'unfortunately your comment, based on the aspect of Rahu, is based on a false premise'. You then saw fit to accuse me of saying this on the list...not true! What is said in private should remain private Mr. Vasudev. It may, or may not, be of interest to know that I, on the other hand, with Rahu conjunct Jupiter, have devoted the best part of the last 20 yrs to the study of occult sciences. I know of many fine astrologers with Rahu/Jupiter conjunction. PB XVI however is not one of them I assure you. He is staunchly conservative, a traditionalist in the truest sense who determinately upholds the traditions of the church (including it's opposition to occult sciences). This we see, surely, with Jupiter in his own constellation occupying Saturn's sign in lagna...a strong disciplinarian no doubt. But one who flirts with occult sciences? - never! So much for your (supposed) Rahu aspect! Your (below) comment suggests that Pt. Ojha (simply) learnt his astrological skills through study at BHU (Banaras Hindu University) whereas in fact he came from a long and distinguished line of astrologers (parampara). You Wrote: "The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills." Here is a quote from the website of Pandit AshuTosh Ojha: "Ojha is from a renowned family of astrologers descended directly from the family of personal astrologers to the ancient kings of India. He is from a family of Tantrik pure Brahmins from the East, called Mithila, where Raja Janak, the learned father of Devi Sita, wife of Rama ruled. His forefathers were Gurus of the Maharajas of Alwar, an erstwhile Hindu Kingdom in the South West of New Delhi. The Rulers of Alwar were Suryanyavanshi (the Descendents of the SUN) and from the family of Lord Rama. Pandit Ojha's forefathers were learned scholars and recitors of the Vedas. His father Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha had a degree in Law and Masters degree in Sanskrit. He was a judge in India and wrote more than 20 books in English, Sanskrit and Hindi on various mystical subjects besides Astrology, Palmistry and Numerology. Ojha's grandfather Pandit Rama Bhadra Ojha M.A.L.L.B. was Chief Justice of the High Court of India and a learned person of great linguistic ability conversant in Sanskrit, Persian, Hindi, English and many other languages." I just find it totally incredible that you can dismiss so disrespectfully the wisdom of this most eminent astrologer who tells us emphatically that the nodes neither aspect nor are they aspected. This, of course, is not my only source as I was also taught the same thing when I studied at 'Maharishi Jyotish' back in 1988. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Dear Mrs. Wendy, Greetings! First you wanted to see the shlokas and when I showed them,you are shying away from the topic trying to put other logics such as 1. It can not be, 2. You can't imagine, 3. How somebody was not aware of that shloka. 4. I question the original source. etc. etc. 6. It can't be as per astronomical laws, 5. Now you want to use your common sense then why at first place you asked for that shloka. and denying the shloka's existence and feasibility altogether. The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills. Before Pt. Seetaram Jha's edition came into market around 1945,still the bombay edition had been using as a text book in BHU,and that was the only edition available at that time. There is no need to be grateful,you are most welcome to visit my house or the BHU library,and you may easily have a glance over that edition. It's not a pity that said shloka came from that source infact it is priviladge to see that edition,which was the very first available edition of BPHS. I too don't want to sponser any ill-feeling towards anybody. I just represented my views with all awareness. I leave this topic here. Best wishes Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hi! Mrs. Wendy, Where did I show disrespect to Pt G.K.Ojha ? It's only that I don't to his views. Why are you diverting the topic from Parashara to Pt G.K.Ojha.You yourself questioned the authenticity of Parashara's shloka from BPHS, and but I didn't accuse you for disrespecting the sage.You have every right either to agree or disagree with the Sage. You are accusing me for the work which I never did. I never uttered a bad word about Pt.G.K.Ojha. You said in your last post that you are leaving the topic.Please let me do the same thing because we are streching it too far. I am leaving this topic and devoting my time to learning something else from the group. Thanks you very much. Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Mr. V. Vasudev, > > Please don't put words in my mouth. I did NOT say that 'the eminent > scholar Pt. G.K. Ojha was not aware of that sloka'... I in fact said > just the opposite i.e; > 'I also find it hard to believe that such an eminent astrologer as > G.K. Ojha who had studied sanskrit works on astrology since 1927 > (and who's opinion I value highly) was not aware of the sloka you > refer to'. > I also did NOT deny the slokas existance (how could I do that?). I > simply questioned it's authenticity and questioned also the reason > why that particular sloka has not been included in any of the > subsequent editions of BPHS which are widely used as jyotish text > books today?? > > Might I remind you that this topic came to light (between us) when > you wrote to me privately requesting my comments on an article you > had written about Pope Benedict XVI in which you stated that the > aspect of Rahu on Jupiter makes him inclined towards occult > sciences. This statement alone is so far from the truth it's > laughable. He would be the last person on the face of God's earth > who would ever be inclined towards occult sciences...if you had done > your research properly you would know that the Church (of which he > is the spiritual leader) is totally opposed to such > things...totally, totally, totally!! It was then that I said to you > (privately) that 'unfortunately your comment, based on the aspect of > Rahu, is based on a false premise'. You then saw fit to accuse me of > saying this on the list...not true! What is said in private should > remain private Mr. Vasudev. > > It may, or may not, be of interest to know that I, on the other > hand, with Rahu conjunct Jupiter, have devoted the best part of the > last 20 yrs to the study of occult sciences. I know of many fine > astrologers with Rahu/Jupiter conjunction. PB XVI however is not one > of them I assure you. He is staunchly conservative, a traditionalist > in the truest sense who determinately upholds the traditions of the > church (including it's opposition to occult sciences). This we see, > surely, with Jupiter in his own constellation occupying Saturn's > sign in lagna...a strong disciplinarian no doubt. But one who flirts > with occult sciences? - never! > > So much for your (supposed) Rahu aspect! > > Your (below) comment suggests that Pt. Ojha (simply) learnt his > astrological skills through study at BHU (Banaras Hindu University) > whereas in fact he came from a long and distinguished line of > astrologers (parampara). > > You Wrote: > "The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may > find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree > G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other > scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills." > > Here is a quote from the website of Pandit AshuTosh Ojha: > "Ojha is from a renowned family of astrologers descended directly > from the family of personal astrologers to the ancient kings of > India. He is from a family of Tantrik pure Brahmins from the East, > called Mithila, where Raja Janak, the learned father of Devi Sita, > wife of Rama ruled. His forefathers were Gurus of the Maharajas of > Alwar, an erstwhile Hindu Kingdom in the South West of New Delhi. > The Rulers of Alwar were Suryanyavanshi (the Descendents of the SUN) > and from the family of Lord Rama. > > Pandit Ojha's forefathers were learned scholars and recitors of the > Vedas. His father Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha had a degree in Law and > Masters degree in Sanskrit. He was a judge in India and wrote more > than 20 books in English, Sanskrit and Hindi on various mystical > subjects besides Astrology, Palmistry and Numerology. > > Ojha's grandfather Pandit Rama Bhadra Ojha M.A.L.L.B. was Chief > Justice of the High Court of India and a learned person of great > linguistic ability conversant in Sanskrit, Persian, Hindi, English > and many other languages." > > I just find it totally incredible that you can dismiss so > disrespectfully the wisdom of this most eminent astrologer who tells > us emphatically that the nodes neither aspect nor are they aspected. > This, of course, is not my only source as I was also taught the same > thing when I studied at 'Maharishi Jyotish' back in 1988. > > Thank You, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Greetings! > > First you wanted to see the shlokas > > and when I showed them,you are shying away from the topic trying to > put other logics such as > 1. It can not be, > 2. You can't imagine, > 3. How somebody was not aware of that shloka. > 4. I question the original source. etc. etc. > 6. It can't be as per astronomical laws, > 5. Now you want to use your common sense then why at first place you > asked for that shloka. > > and denying the shloka's existence and feasibility altogether. > > The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may > find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree > G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other > scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills. > > Before Pt. Seetaram Jha's edition came into market around 1945,still > the bombay edition had been using as a text book in BHU,and that was > the only edition available at that time. > There is no need to be grateful,you are most welcome to visit my > house or the BHU library,and you may easily have a glance over that > edition. > > It's not a pity that said shloka came from that source infact it is > priviladge to see that edition,which was the very first available > edition of BPHS. > > I too don't want to sponser any ill-feeling towards anybody. > I just represented my views with all awareness. > > I leave this topic here. > > Best wishes > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev@g... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hi! Mrs. Wendy, Greetings! Once again. Where did I show disrespect to Pt. G.K.Ojha,it is only that I don't to his views,and this in my opinion is not the disrespect. I never said a bad word abour the eminent scholar. Why are you diverting the topic from Pt. G.K.Ojha to Parashara.Infact it was you who questioned the authenticity of said shloka.Did I accuse you for showing the disrespect to sage Parashara.? I didn't. You have every right either to agree or disagree with the sage and I respect your right to do the same. In you last post you said that you were leaving the topic there.Please let ne allow to the same,because we are streching it too far,I think. I widh to devote my time to learn something else from this group. Thank you very much. Acharya Vasudev http://www.acharyavasudev.com acharya.vasudev jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Mr. V. Vasudev, > > Please don't put words in my mouth. I did NOT say that 'the eminent > scholar Pt. G.K. Ojha was not aware of that sloka'... I in fact said > just the opposite i.e; > 'I also find it hard to believe that such an eminent astrologer as > G.K. Ojha who had studied sanskrit works on astrology since 1927 > (and who's opinion I value highly) was not aware of the sloka you > refer to'. > I also did NOT deny the slokas existance (how could I do that?). I > simply questioned it's authenticity and questioned also the reason > why that particular sloka has not been included in any of the > subsequent editions of BPHS which are widely used as jyotish text > books today?? > > Might I remind you that this topic came to light (between us) when > you wrote to me privately requesting my comments on an article you > had written about Pope Benedict XVI in which you stated that the > aspect of Rahu on Jupiter makes him inclined towards occult > sciences. This statement alone is so far from the truth it's > laughable. He would be the last person on the face of God's earth > who would ever be inclined towards occult sciences...if you had done > your research properly you would know that the Church (of which he > is the spiritual leader) is totally opposed to such > things...totally, totally, totally!! It was then that I said to you > (privately) that 'unfortunately your comment, based on the aspect of > Rahu, is based on a false premise'. You then saw fit to accuse me of > saying this on the list...not true! What is said in private should > remain private Mr. Vasudev. > > It may, or may not, be of interest to know that I, on the other > hand, with Rahu conjunct Jupiter, have devoted the best part of the > last 20 yrs to the study of occult sciences. I know of many fine > astrologers with Rahu/Jupiter conjunction. PB XVI however is not one > of them I assure you. He is staunchly conservative, a traditionalist > in the truest sense who determinately upholds the traditions of the > church (including it's opposition to occult sciences). This we see, > surely, with Jupiter in his own constellation occupying Saturn's > sign in lagna...a strong disciplinarian no doubt. But one who flirts > with occult sciences? - never! > > So much for your (supposed) Rahu aspect! > > Your (below) comment suggests that Pt. Ojha (simply) learnt his > astrological skills through study at BHU (Banaras Hindu University) > whereas in fact he came from a long and distinguished line of > astrologers (parampara). > > You Wrote: > "The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may > find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree > G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other > scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills." > > Here is a quote from the website of Pandit AshuTosh Ojha: > "Ojha is from a renowned family of astrologers descended directly > from the family of personal astrologers to the ancient kings of > India. He is from a family of Tantrik pure Brahmins from the East, > called Mithila, where Raja Janak, the learned father of Devi Sita, > wife of Rama ruled. His forefathers were Gurus of the Maharajas of > Alwar, an erstwhile Hindu Kingdom in the South West of New Delhi. > The Rulers of Alwar were Suryanyavanshi (the Descendents of the SUN) > and from the family of Lord Rama. > > Pandit Ojha's forefathers were learned scholars and recitors of the > Vedas. His father Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha had a degree in Law and > Masters degree in Sanskrit. He was a judge in India and wrote more > than 20 books in English, Sanskrit and Hindi on various mystical > subjects besides Astrology, Palmistry and Numerology. > > Ojha's grandfather Pandit Rama Bhadra Ojha M.A.L.L.B. was Chief > Justice of the High Court of India and a learned person of great > linguistic ability conversant in Sanskrit, Persian, Hindi, English > and many other languages." > > I just find it totally incredible that you can dismiss so > disrespectfully the wisdom of this most eminent astrologer who tells > us emphatically that the nodes neither aspect nor are they aspected. > This, of course, is not my only source as I was also taught the same > thing when I studied at 'Maharishi Jyotish' back in 1988. > > Thank You, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Greetings! > > First you wanted to see the shlokas > > and when I showed them,you are shying away from the topic trying to > put other logics such as > 1. It can not be, > 2. You can't imagine, > 3. How somebody was not aware of that shloka. > 4. I question the original source. etc. etc. > 6. It can't be as per astronomical laws, > 5. Now you want to use your common sense then why at first place you > asked for that shloka. > > and denying the shloka's existence and feasibility altogether. > > The said edition is just out of print but not unobtainable.You may > find that in many libraries,specially in BHU, where Shree > G.K.Ojha,Pt.Seetaram Jha,Pt Jeevnath Jha.Pt Muralidhar Jha and other > scholars taught and learnt their astrological skills. > > Before Pt. Seetaram Jha's edition came into market around 1945,still > the bombay edition had been using as a text book in BHU,and that was > the only edition available at that time. > There is no need to be grateful,you are most welcome to visit my > house or the BHU library,and you may easily have a glance over that > edition. > > It's not a pity that said shloka came from that source infact it is > priviladge to see that edition,which was the very first available > edition of BPHS. > > I too don't want to sponser any ill-feeling towards anybody. > I just represented my views with all awareness. > > I leave this topic here. > > Best wishes > > Acharya Vasudev > http://www.acharyavasudev.com > acharya.vasudev@g... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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