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Dear Balaji and All,

 

Perhaps it's time we got down to the hard work of verifying some

events and comparing these with the two (possible?) charts.

 

April 13, 1929: His mother, Emilia, dies.

Chart 1 (Leo Rising): Dasa MO-KE-JU

Dasa lord Moon transits natal position in 10th, bhukti lord Ketu, in

12th from Moon, transits Rahu in 3rd house which shows parent's

death (as well as cause of one's own death)...Ketu's dispositor

Venus, along with JU, RA, SU transit 12th from natal Moon. PD lord

Jupiter, in Moon's sign in 12th, transits (as said) 12th from both

Natal and transit Moon.

 

Chart 2 (Libra Rising): Dasa MO-SU-ME

Dasa lord Moon transits natal position in 8th, bhukti lord Sun

transits 12th from Moon in company of VE, JU, RA whiles PD lord

Mercury transits 6th in sign of Jupiter.

 

Dec. 5, 1932: His older brother, Edmund, dies.

Chart 1 (Leo Rising): Dasa MA-RA-SU

Natal Mars aspects 11th lord in 8th from his position whilst

transiting Mars, in company of JU/KE, transits Saturn in 12th from

his position. Bhukti lord Rahu, conjunct 12th lord Moon, transits

natal Jupiter in 12th.

 

Chart 2 (Libra Rising): Dasa MA-SA-SA

Natal Mars aspects 11th lord in 9th from his position whilst

transiting Mars, in company of JU/KE, transits Saturn in 12th from

his position. Bhukti/PD lord Saturn, occupying 11th, aspects 11th

lord Sun whilst (in transit) aspects natal Jupiter in 12th from

11th.

 

Feb. 18, 1941: His father dies.

Chart 1 (Leo Rising): Dasa RA-RA-MO

Natal (dasa/AD lord) Rahu occupies 3rd house which shows death of

parent. In transit Rahu occupies sign of Mercury who, along with his

natal dispositor Venus, occupies 12th from 10th/Sun. PD lord (12th

lord) Moon conjuncts Sun in 10th and (in transit) aspects 10th from

4th.

 

Chart 2 (Libra Rising): Dasa RA-JU-ME

Dasa lord Rahu, occupying lagna, transits sign of Mercury who

occupies 12th from Sun and 10th lord Moon........

 

I'll leave it here for the time being as other things call me. I

will just add here that (at times) it appears that events seem

possible in both charts. But careful consideration should bring the

real one to light :-)

 

Another important factor (when doubt is there) is the innate nature

of the native which is seen in lagna. This pervades all that happens

in the life of the native. Consider the nature of Saturn...inclined

to penance, prayer etc., compared to Rahu.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___________________

 

MORE DATES:

 

August, 1938: Moves to Krakow with his father, Karol Sr.. so the

young Karol can enter the Jagiellonian University.

 

Sept. 1, 1939: Nazi Germany invades Poland. Karol Wojtyla is caught

up in the bombing of Krakow.

 

September, 1940: Goes to work in a limestone quarry to avoid Nazi

roundups and deportation.

 

May 1942: Gestapo arrests Wojtyla and others. His worker's card gets

him off. The others are shot at Auschwitz.

 

Fall, 1942: Enters a secret seminary to study for the priesthood.

 

Feb. 29, 1944: A German truck strikes Wojtyla, hospitalizing him for

two weeks.

 

Nov. 1, 1946: Ordained a priest. Two weeks later, leaves for further

study in Rome.

 

July 28, 1948: Arrives at Niegowic, a poor parish near Krakow. It is

his first parish assignment after return-ing from Rome.

 

March 17, 1949: Assigned to St. Flonans Parish in Krakow.

 

Sept. 1, 1951: Starts two-year academic sabbatical to study

philosophy.

 

Oct. 12, 1954: Appointed to the philosophy department at the

Catholic University of Lublin in Poland.

 

July 4, 1958: Pope Plus XII appoints him auxiliary bishop of Krakow.

 

Dec. 30, 1963: Pope Paul VI names hhn archbishop of Krakow.

 

June 28, 1967: Pope Paul VI consecrates Wojtyla a cardinal.

 

March 7-13, 1976: Leads a Lenten retreat for Pope Paul VI and a

group of high-ranking church officials.

 

Oct. 16, 1978: Elected pope. Takes the name John Paul 11.

 

Jan. 28, 1979: During his first papal trip, he addresses Latin

American bishops at Puebla, Mexico. with a critique of liberation

theology.

 

March 4, 1979: Issues his first encyclical, "Redemptor Hominis"

(Redeemer of Man).

 

June 2-10, 1979: First visit to Poland as pope.

 

Oct. 1-7, 1979: First visit to the United States, where he addresses

the United Nations.

 

Nov. 10, 1979: Urges re-examination of the Galileo case.

 

Dec. 15, 1979: Vatican declares that the Rev. Hans Kung can no

longer teach as a Catholic theologian.

 

May 13, 1981: Mehmet Ali Agca shoots John Paul in St. Peter's

Square, narrowly missing the pope's main abdominal artery.

 

May 29, 1982: John Paul advances ecumenism by jointly leading a

prayer service at Canterbury Cathedral in England with Anglican

Archbishop Robert Runcie.

 

June 16-23, 1983: Second visit to Poland. Meets with Gen. Wojciech

Jaruzelski.

 

Dec. 27, 1983: Visits Agca in prison and forgives him for the

assassination attempt.

 

April 13, 1986: Becomes the first pope to visit the Synagogue of

Rome.

 

Jan. 13, 1987: Receives Jaruzelski at the Vatican.

 

June 8-14, 1987: Third visit to Poland.

 

Sept. 10-21, 1987: Second visit to the United States.

 

Dec. 1, 1989: Receives Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev at the

Vatican.

 

Jan. 15, 1991: appeals to President George Bush and Iraqi leader

Saddam Hussein to negotiate a settlement to the Persian Gulf crisis.

 

June 1-9, 1991: Fourth visit to Poland.

 

July 15, 1992: Surgery for the removal of a benign intestinal tumor.

 

Aug. 12-15, 1993: Visits Denver for World Youth Day.

 

Oct. 5, 1993: Issues the encyclical "Veritatis speldor" (The

Splendor of Truth), which says there are objective moral truths.

 

Nov. 11, 1993: Dislocates his shoulder in a fall.

 

Dec. 30, 1993: The Vatican and Israel sign agreement to begin full

diplomatic relations.

 

April 28, 1994: Falls and breaks femur. Doctors replace his hip.

 

May 22, 1994: Issues "Ordinatio Sacerdotalis" (Priestly Ordination),

declaring the church cannot ordain women.

 

March 25, 1995: Issues the encyclical "Evangelium Vitae" (The Gospel

of Life), restating his opposition to abortion, the death penalty

and enthanasia.

 

June 8, 1995: Issues his 12th encyclical, "Ut Unum Sint" (That They

May Be One), on Christian unity.

 

Oct. 4-9, 1995: Visits Newark, New York and Baltimore.

 

Oct. 8, 1996: Appendix removed.

 

Jan. 21-25, 1998: First-ever papal visit to Cuba.

 

Jan. 26-27, 1999: Visits St. Louis.

 

Dec. 24, 1999: Starts the church's jubilee year, marking 2000 years

since Christ's birth, by opening the Holy Door at St. Peter's

Basilica.

 

March 12, 2000: Makes historic apology and asks forgiveness for

incidents when church mistreated Jews, other Christians, women, the

poor, and ethnic and racial minorities over 2000 years. In turn, he

urges forgiveness of offenses against the church.

 

March 21-26, 2000: Visits the Holy Land.

 

Jan. 6, 2001: Closes Holy Door at St. Peter's to end jubilee year

celebrations.

 

Jan. 21, 2001: Names 44 new cardinals.

 

May 6, 2001: In Damascus, becomes first pope to enter an Islamic

place of worship.

 

July 23, 2001: In meeting near Rome, urges President George W. Bush

to reject research on human embryos.

 

Nov. 22, 2001: Apologizes for sexual misconduct of male clergy,

particularly citing abuse of nuns in developing nations.

 

Jan. 28, 2002: Says Roman Catholic lawyers should decline divorce

cases and should encourage reconciliations.

 

April 23, 2002: Convenes meeting of U.S. cardinals on clergy sex

abuse crisis and calls such abuse criminal.

 

Aug. 16-19, 2002: Ninth papal visit to Poland. At tearful farewell

Mass in Krakow, tells more than 2 million he would like to return,

but "this is entirely in God's hands."

 

Oct. 16, 2002: Adds "mysteries of light" to the rosary, the first

change in that method of prayer in centuries.

 

Dec. 13, 2002: Accepts resignation of Cardinal Bernard Law as

archbishop of Boston, an archdiocese plagued by the sex abuse

scandal.

 

March 22, 2003: Deplores the unfolding war in Iraq, saying "violence

and weapons can never resolve the problems of man."

 

April 17, 2003: In his 14th encyclical, "Ecclesia De Eucharistia"

(On the Eucharist), pope affirms central role of comunion in the

church.

 

May 17, 2003: A Vatican official acknowledges pope has Parkinson's

disease.

 

Sept. 28, 2003: Amid concerns about his health, he names 31 new

cardinals.

 

Sept. 30, 2003: A papal adviser is quoted as asking for prayers for

the pope's health. "He is in a bad way,'' says Cardinal Joseph

Ratzinger