Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear All, It's no secret that I believe a good grounding in the basics (an intimate knowledge of the Grahas/Bhavas) along with Vimsottari dasa system can reveal the whole karma of this cyclic existence. I don't have anything against Jaimini (or other) techniques per se, but I do think people can run into endless contradictions by mixing the different techniques together. Certainly one can examine both side-by-side (as a confirmation perhaps), however the danger is that the focus on the basics, which is pure Parashara, is often neglected. As an example; I remember one particular contributor we had on the previous group (some time back) who was extremely well-versed in many shastras and employed many different techniques yet was alarmingly amiss in his understanding of the basic significations of the grahas/bhavas...this is a growing trend today, unfortunately. Being that this group is new again, and there is some more spare time available to me at the moment, I've been observing the postings (elsewhere) of a Jyotisha who I've noted for some time has very similar views to my own. I often thought I'd like to look at this person's chart to see what the similarities (if any) were. By providence that chart fell into my lap recently and the similarities are quite amazing. I cannot, of course, post the chart without permission but I can comment on the similarities. 1) Scripture states that Rahu loses his evil intent when associated with strong Jupiter...that association is there in both charts. For myself Rahu is conjunct exalted Jupiter - for the other, Rahu occupies the sign of exalted Jupiter. 2) In both charts Moon occupies Libra with exalted Jupiter (planet of knowledge) in kendra, occupying 10th from Moon...Gajakesari yoga. 3) In both charts Mercury (planet of intellect) owns 9th and occupies Virgo (in 12th from Moon)...planets in 12th from Moon give rise to Anapha yoga. 4) In both charts a benefic planet (singularly) occupies 10th from lagna giving rise to Amala yoga. Certainly it was reassuring for me to find such strong similarities that confirm what has been obvious to me for a long time...Jyotish IS infallible! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Wendy, What happens when Jupiter in Libra (inimical sign)from lagna aspects Rahu in fifth house? Again, in this case, how Rahu behaves after receiving "money" from Jupiter as we know that Rahu tends to take an individual more towards materialistic world? Best regards, Sumit --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Dear All, > > It's no secret that I believe a good grounding in > the basics (an > intimate knowledge of the Grahas/Bhavas) along with > Vimsottari dasa > system can reveal the whole karma of this cyclic > existence. I don't > have anything against Jaimini (or other) techniques > per se, but I do > think people can run into endless contradictions by > mixing the > different techniques together. Certainly one can > examine both > side-by-side (as a confirmation perhaps), however > the danger is that > the focus on the basics, which is pure Parashara, is > often > neglected. > > As an example; I remember one particular contributor > we had on the > previous group (some time back) who was extremely > well-versed in > many shastras and employed many different techniques > yet was > alarmingly amiss in his understanding of the basic > significations of > the grahas/bhavas...this is a growing trend today, > unfortunately. > > Being that this group is new again, and there is > some more spare > time available to me at the moment, I've been > observing the postings > (elsewhere) of a Jyotisha who I've noted for some > time has very > similar views to my own. I often thought I'd like to > look at this > person's chart to see what the similarities (if any) > were. By > providence that chart fell into my lap recently and > the similarities > are quite amazing. I cannot, of course, post the > chart without > permission but I can comment on the similarities. > > 1) Scripture states that Rahu loses his evil intent > when associated > with strong Jupiter...that association is there in > both charts. For > myself Rahu is conjunct exalted Jupiter - for the > other, Rahu > occupies the sign of exalted Jupiter. > > 2) In both charts Moon occupies Libra with exalted > Jupiter (planet > of knowledge) in kendra, occupying 10th from > Moon...Gajakesari yoga. > > 3) In both charts Mercury (planet of intellect) owns > 9th and > occupies Virgo (in 12th from Moon)...planets in 12th > from Moon give > rise to Anapha yoga. > > 4) In both charts a benefic planet (singularly) > occupies 10th from > lagna giving rise to Amala yoga. > > Certainly it was reassuring for me to find such > strong similarities > that confirm what has been obvious to me for a long > time...Jyotish > IS infallible! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Rahu, In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they aspected. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya - "sumit dasgupta" <sumit_dasgupta <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:38 PM Re: Infallibility of Jyotish Dear Wendy, What happens when Jupiter in Libra (inimical sign)from lagna aspects Rahu in fifth house? Again, in this case, how Rahu behaves after receiving "money" from Jupiter as we know that Rahu tends to take an individual more towards materialistic world? Best regards, Sumit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Wendy, I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets (which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well. Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw their light on the shadows. Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards, Venkat jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Rahu, > > In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they > aspected. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Whoops :-( Sorry for the slip with your name Rahul...no pun was intended, I assure you :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya - "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:52 PM Re: Infallibility of Jyotish Dear Rahu, In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they aspected. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 ....and again, sorry Sumit, this should have been addressed to you. >>Sorry for the slip with your name Rahul...no pun was intended, I assure you :-)<< ___________________________ - "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:52 PM Re: Infallibility of Jyotish Dear Rahu, In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they aspected. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I am curiously scraching my head to think of this Jyotisha who is he? Any way, it is right jyotish is infalliable. Regards, C.S. Ravidramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Venkat, A house is neither an empty space nor a shadow. It's a Rashi (sign of the zodiac) which has manifested at birth as a Bhava. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya - "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52 <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:56 PM Re: Infallibility of Jyotish Dear Wendy, I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets (which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well. Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw their light on the shadows. Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards, Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Wendy, Manifestation of a house is in the form of energy which can bring about certain effects in the areas assigned to different houses ( like Childrean for 5th Spouse for 7th etc.). So are the nodes manifestations of energies which can bring about certain effects - like Rahu's insatiable desire and Ketu's spiritualitual outlook. The reason why nodes cannot be aspected is still not clear to me. many thanks for your patience, Venkat jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Venkat, > > A house is neither an empty space nor a shadow. It's a Rashi (sign > of the zodiac) which has manifested at birth as a Bhava. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > > > - > "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52> > <jyotish-vidya> > Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:56 PM > Re: Infallibility of Jyotish > > > > Dear Wendy, > > I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I > agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast > aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets > (which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then > logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well. > > Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw > light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw > their light on the shadows. > > Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards, > > Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Venkat, >>Manifestation of a house is in the form of energy which can bring about certain effects in the areas assigned to different houses ( like Childrean for 5th Spouse for 7th etc.). So are the nodes manifestations of energies which can bring about certain effects - like Rahu's insatiable desire and Ketu's spiritualitual outlook.<< We're talking about aspects as they apply to a physical universe - planets and constellations are physical bodies - The nodes are not! It might be good for us to focus a little on the physical nature of the Universe (astronomy). Knowledge of both astronomy and astrology are important. In fact there was no separation between the two in ancient times. An astrologer was also an astronomer and vice versa. There are many sites devoted to astronomy...the following one might be helpful: http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~shaver/ancient.htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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