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Dear All,

 

It's no secret that I believe a good grounding in the basics (an

intimate knowledge of the Grahas/Bhavas) along with Vimsottari dasa

system can reveal the whole karma of this cyclic existence. I don't

have anything against Jaimini (or other) techniques per se, but I do

think people can run into endless contradictions by mixing the

different techniques together. Certainly one can examine both

side-by-side (as a confirmation perhaps), however the danger is that

the focus on the basics, which is pure Parashara, is often

neglected.

 

As an example; I remember one particular contributor we had on the

previous group (some time back) who was extremely well-versed in

many shastras and employed many different techniques yet was

alarmingly amiss in his understanding of the basic significations of

the grahas/bhavas...this is a growing trend today, unfortunately.

 

Being that this group is new again, and there is some more spare

time available to me at the moment, I've been observing the postings

(elsewhere) of a Jyotisha who I've noted for some time has very

similar views to my own. I often thought I'd like to look at this

person's chart to see what the similarities (if any) were. By

providence that chart fell into my lap recently and the similarities

are quite amazing. I cannot, of course, post the chart without

permission but I can comment on the similarities.

 

1) Scripture states that Rahu loses his evil intent when associated

with strong Jupiter...that association is there in both charts. For

myself Rahu is conjunct exalted Jupiter - for the other, Rahu

occupies the sign of exalted Jupiter.

 

2) In both charts Moon occupies Libra with exalted Jupiter (planet

of knowledge) in kendra, occupying 10th from Moon...Gajakesari yoga.

 

3) In both charts Mercury (planet of intellect) owns 9th and

occupies Virgo (in 12th from Moon)...planets in 12th from Moon give

rise to Anapha yoga.

 

4) In both charts a benefic planet (singularly) occupies 10th from

lagna giving rise to Amala yoga.

 

Certainly it was reassuring for me to find such strong similarities

that confirm what has been obvious to me for a long time...Jyotish

IS infallible!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Dear Wendy,

 

What happens when Jupiter in Libra (inimical sign)from

lagna aspects Rahu in fifth house?

 

Again, in this case, how Rahu behaves after receiving

"money" from Jupiter as we know that Rahu tends to

take an individual more towards materialistic world?

 

Best regards,

 

Sumit

 

 

--- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

 

> Dear All,

>

> It's no secret that I believe a good grounding in

> the basics (an

> intimate knowledge of the Grahas/Bhavas) along with

> Vimsottari dasa

> system can reveal the whole karma of this cyclic

> existence. I don't

> have anything against Jaimini (or other) techniques

> per se, but I do

> think people can run into endless contradictions by

> mixing the

> different techniques together. Certainly one can

> examine both

> side-by-side (as a confirmation perhaps), however

> the danger is that

> the focus on the basics, which is pure Parashara, is

> often

> neglected.

>

> As an example; I remember one particular contributor

> we had on the

> previous group (some time back) who was extremely

> well-versed in

> many shastras and employed many different techniques

> yet was

> alarmingly amiss in his understanding of the basic

> significations of

> the grahas/bhavas...this is a growing trend today,

> unfortunately.

>

> Being that this group is new again, and there is

> some more spare

> time available to me at the moment, I've been

> observing the postings

> (elsewhere) of a Jyotisha who I've noted for some

> time has very

> similar views to my own. I often thought I'd like to

> look at this

> person's chart to see what the similarities (if any)

> were. By

> providence that chart fell into my lap recently and

> the similarities

> are quite amazing. I cannot, of course, post the

> chart without

> permission but I can comment on the similarities.

>

> 1) Scripture states that Rahu loses his evil intent

> when associated

> with strong Jupiter...that association is there in

> both charts. For

> myself Rahu is conjunct exalted Jupiter - for the

> other, Rahu

> occupies the sign of exalted Jupiter.

>

> 2) In both charts Moon occupies Libra with exalted

> Jupiter (planet

> of knowledge) in kendra, occupying 10th from

> Moon...Gajakesari yoga.

>

> 3) In both charts Mercury (planet of intellect) owns

> 9th and

> occupies Virgo (in 12th from Moon)...planets in 12th

> from Moon give

> rise to Anapha yoga.

>

> 4) In both charts a benefic planet (singularly)

> occupies 10th from

> lagna giving rise to Amala yoga.

>

> Certainly it was reassuring for me to find such

> strong similarities

> that confirm what has been obvious to me for a long

> time...Jyotish

> IS infallible!

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rahu,

 

In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they

aspected.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

 

 

-

"sumit dasgupta" <sumit_dasgupta

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:38 PM

Re: Infallibility of Jyotish

 

 

Dear Wendy,

 

What happens when Jupiter in Libra (inimical sign)from

lagna aspects Rahu in fifth house?

 

Again, in this case, how Rahu behaves after receiving

"money" from Jupiter as we know that Rahu tends to

take an individual more towards materialistic world?

 

Best regards,

 

Sumit

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Dear Wendy,

 

I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I

agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast

aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets

(which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then

logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well.

 

Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw

light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw

their light on the shadows.

 

Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards,

 

Venkat

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...>

wrote:

> Dear Rahu,

>

> In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they

> aspected.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

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Whoops :-(

 

Sorry for the slip with your name Rahul...no pun was intended, I

assure you :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

 

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:52 PM

Re: Infallibility of Jyotish

 

 

Dear Rahu,

 

In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they

aspected.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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....and again, sorry Sumit, this should have been addressed to you.

 

 

>>Sorry for the slip with your name Rahul...no pun was intended, I

assure you :-)<<

___________________________

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:52 PM

Re: Infallibility of Jyotish

 

Dear Rahu,

 

In my view the Nodes (Rahu & Ketu) neither aspect nor are they

aspected.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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Dear Venkat,

 

A house is neither an empty space nor a shadow. It's a Rashi (sign

of the zodiac) which has manifested at birth as a Bhava.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

 

 

-

"S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:56 PM

Re: Infallibility of Jyotish

 

 

 

Dear Wendy,

 

I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I

agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast

aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets

(which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then

logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well.

 

Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw

light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw

their light on the shadows.

 

Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards,

 

Venkat

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Dear Wendy,

 

Manifestation of a house is in the form of energy which can bring

about certain effects in the areas assigned to different houses (

like Childrean for 5th Spouse for 7th etc.). So are the nodes

manifestations of energies which can bring about certain effects -

like Rahu's insatiable desire and Ketu's spiritualitual outlook.

 

The reason why nodes cannot be aspected is still not clear to me.

many thanks for your patience,

 

Venkat

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...>

wrote:

> Dear Venkat,

>

> A house is neither an empty space nor a shadow. It's a Rashi (sign

> of the zodiac) which has manifested at birth as a Bhava.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

>

>

> -

> "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:56 PM

> Re: Infallibility of Jyotish

>

>

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> I am not sure that I follow the logic of 'nor are they aspected'. I

> agree, the nodes without a body and being 'shadows' cannot cast

> aspects on others. But if other planets can aspect both planets

> (which have bodies) and Houses (which do not have bodies), then

> logically they should be able to aspect the nodes as well.

>

> Carrying the Shadow analogy further, shadows surely cannot throw

> light on other bodies but other luminous bodies can certainly throw

> their light on the shadows.

>

> Where have I gone wrong in my logic? Regards,

>

> Venkat

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Dear Venkat,

 

>>Manifestation of a house is in the form of energy which can bring

about certain effects in the areas assigned to different houses (

like Childrean for 5th Spouse for 7th etc.). So are the nodes

manifestations of energies which can bring about certain effects -

like Rahu's insatiable desire and Ketu's spiritualitual outlook.<<

 

We're talking about aspects as they apply to a physical universe -

planets and constellations are physical bodies - The nodes are not!

It might be good for us to focus a little on the physical nature of

the Universe (astronomy). Knowledge of both astronomy and astrology

are important. In fact there was no separation between the two in

ancient times. An astrologer was also an astronomer and vice versa.

 

There are many sites devoted to astronomy...the following one might

be helpful: http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~shaver/ancient.htm

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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