Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Dear Wendy, Great to find the discussion group reopening. Thanks a lot for the initiative. I would like to discuss the following case in the forum and invite all your comments. DOB: 25/01/1970 TOB : 23.50 p.m. POB : 87.41E 23.40N This guy is a brilliant Singer, wanted to pursue that career but couldn't succeed. He is currently country manager for a small MNC based in Mumbai,India doing relatively well in his profession. As far as singing is concerned his success was limited to achieve accolade and awards in various competitions. He also participated in couple of programmes in radio. The chart promised singing as a career for following reasons- 1. Libra ascendent 2. Venus strong in fourth house aspecting 10th. 3. Sun is with Venus and Yogakaraka Saturn(though debilitated got neechabhanga) is aspecting venus, a combination for popularity among mass. On the flip side, I found the following clues which could act as impediment for him to be successfull in Arts- 1. Mars, lord of 2nd house, house of speech, is placed in 6th. 2. Rahu is in the fifth house, the house of creativity. 3. There is no strong Dhana Yoga to complement such a career in entertainment industry. Request comments on why this person couldnot succeed. He is currently running Mars Dasa which ends in 2007. Does Rahu dasa hold any promise for him to proceed further on this. Best regards, Sumit Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 just by reading your mail I can assure you that he will enjoy late success and will earn by two different ways in a job and as a singer but singer part will come to bloom after 42 - sumit dasgupta<sumit_dasgupta jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> Friday, February 04, 2005 4:18 AM An interesting case Dear Wendy, Great to find the discussion group reopening. Thanks a lot for the initiative. I would like to discuss the following case in the forum and invite all your comments. DOB: 25/01/1970 TOB : 23.50 p.m. POB : 87.41E 23.40N This guy is a brilliant Singer, wanted to pursue that career but couldn't succeed. He is currently country manager for a small MNC based in Mumbai,India doing relatively well in his profession. As far as singing is concerned his success was limited to achieve accolade and awards in various competitions. He also participated in couple of programmes in radio. The chart promised singing as a career for following reasons- 1. Libra ascendent 2. Venus strong in fourth house aspecting 10th. 3. Sun is with Venus and Yogakaraka Saturn(though debilitated got neechabhanga) is aspecting venus, a combination for popularity among mass. On the flip side, I found the following clues which could act as impediment for him to be successfull in Arts- 1. Mars, lord of 2nd house, house of speech, is placed in 6th. 2. Rahu is in the fifth house, the house of creativity. 3. There is no strong Dhana Yoga to complement such a career in entertainment industry. Request comments on why this person couldnot succeed. He is currently running Mars Dasa which ends in 2007. Does Rahu dasa hold any promise for him to proceed further on this. Best regards, Sumit Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250<http://info.mail./mail_250> Sponsor Children International Would you give Hope to a Child in need? <http://us.ard./SIG=129ev1aqr/M=332618.5923862.6999529.2152211/D=groups\ /S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1107595135/A=2535374/R=0/SIG=142trf8s4/*http://children.780\ net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=872&s=f&host\ Name=Children%20International> · Click Here to meet a Girl<http://us.ard./SIG=129ev1aqr/M=332618.5923862.6999529.2152211/D=gr\ oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1107595135/A=2535374/R=1/SIG=142trf8s4/*http://children\ ..780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=872&s=f&\ hostName=Children%20International> And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy<http://us.ard./SIG=129ev1aqr/M=332618.5923862.6999529.2152211/D=gro\ ups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1107595135/A=2535374/R=2/SIG=1424c63em/*http://children.\ 780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=871&s=m&h\ ostName=Children%20International> And Change His Life Learn More<http://us.ard./SIG=129ev1aqr/M=332618.5923862.6999529.2152211/D=gr\ oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1107595135/A=2535374/R=3/SIG=1424c63em/*http://children\ ..780net.com/qry/CICHildselect.taf?_function=childSearch&ETTFMRS_BHST_ID=871&s=m&\ hostName=Children%20International> Links jyotish-vidya/<jyoti\ sh-vidya/> b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Sumit, The case that you have posted is not only interesting but also very close to my heart. My 21 year old son also shows a great talent for Carnatic vocal music and is now in a dilemma as to which career he should pursue. I have done some modest reasearch on the horoscope of Musicians and will try to use it in the analysis of this chart. I have found that lagna (because it defines the innate talent of the native), third house (self-effort, throat, fine arts and hence vocal music), 10th house (karmasthana), Venus (Karaka for music), Moon (music is emotional and needs popular support) and Jupiter (symbolises knowledge and blessings) have all a lot to do with musical talent and a career in it. From this perspective let us see what the horoscope signifies. Favourable points for musical talent: 1. Libra Lagna ruled by Venus. Lagna lord in a kendra. 2. Lagna occupied by lord of the 3rd Jupiter. 3. 3rd house occupied by Mercury (speech) posited in the Nakshatra of Venus. 4. Lord of 10th is Moon who is in the 11th and again in the nakshatra of Venus. 5. Jupiter is in Navamsa lagna. 6. Moon is in the 9th in Navamsa aspected by Jupiter from lagna 7. Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Exalted Mars are all in Dashamsa Lagna. 8. Jupiter is the lord of the 3rd in Rasi, Navamsa and also Dashamsa. 9. Lord of 10th is Venus in both Navamsa and Dashamsa. 10. In Siddhamsa (varga for learning), Exalted Sun (lord of 5th) is in Lagna along with Venus. No wonder your friend showed a great talent for music.But there are negatives as well. Unfavourable indications for music: 1. Lagna is aspected by both Saturn (who is Neecha but gets bhanga) and Mars (Maraka in the 6th house). 2. The 9th house is also aspected by both saturn and Mars and the 5th is occupied Rahu (Does your friend complain that his luck is against him?) 3. Venus is very badly combust and aspected by Saturn who is neecha though it is canceled. 5. Moon is very closely conjunct with Ketu. 6. Lord of Navamsa lagna is in the 6th. 7. Jupiter is neecha in Navamsa which again gets canceled. 8. Rahu is in the 3rd in Navamsa. 9. Jupiter is again Neecha in Dashamsa but gets bhanga. 10. In Dashamsa there is a conjunction of Jupiter, Mars, Moon and Venus. Mars is Exalted and there is a parivartana yoga between Saturn and Moon. This overpowered Venus and took the career away from music. 11. Last but not the least - the dasa sequence is not conducive to a career in Music. Let us now analyse the Dasa sequence: 1. The native runs Venus Dasa up to the age of 14.7. He would have done well in studies and for reasons analysed above his musical genius also would have blossomed. But this is not career time for the native. 2. Sun Dasa runs till the age of 20.7. Both education and music would have progressed quite well. This again is not career time. 3. It is Moon Dasa till the age of 30.7. Moon's lordship of the 10th house in Rasi, its conjuction with Mars in both Navamsa and dashamsa, and its parivartana yoga with Saturn in Dashamsa took the career away from music and made him a popular manager. (Saturn - subordinates, Moon - popularity, Uchha mars in dashamsa - a non-musical career). 4. From Oct 2000, the native is running Mars Dasa. His non-musical career would have got further solidified. 5. For 18 years from Oct, 2007 the native runs Rahu Dasa. Rahu's dispositor is saturn. saturn's dispositor is Mars. Lord of the 10th Moon aspects Rahu from the 11th. Moon's dispositor is Sun whose dispositor is saturn. This completes the loop and will probably continue to favour a career other than music. Though the native may not pursue music as a career, he will always be musically minded. Music will always keep him company because Moon is in the Nakshatra of Lagna lord Venus. He certainly would have continued with music as a leisure activity and an active hobby in Moon dasa for obvious reasons, in Mars dasa because Mars is conjunct moon in Navamsa. He will continue to do so in Rahu Dasa because Moon aspects Rahu. Mars is a Maraka (lord of 2nd and 7th) and is in the 6th house. The native will do well to take very good care of his health till Oct 2007 when Mars Dasa ends. Regards, Venkat sumit dasgupta <sumit_dasgupta wrote: Dear Wendy, Great to find the discussion group reopening. Thanks a lot for the initiative. I would like to discuss the following case in the forum and invite all your comments. DOB: 25/01/1970 TOB : 23.50 p.m. POB : 87.41E 23.40N This guy is a brilliant Singer, wanted to pursue that career but couldn't succeed. He is currently country manager for a small MNC based in Mumbai,India doing relatively well in his profession. ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Dear friends, Can anybody tell what is the place of birth. ( of course coordinates are there, somewhat my software is not accepting coordinates... some problem I am not able to solve.... it prepares the chart by namewise fine.... I would like to cast this chart and see ..... Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================== jyotish-vidya, sumit dasgupta <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > Dear Wendy, > > Great to find the discussion group reopening. Thanks a > lot for the initiative. > > I would like to discuss the following case in the > forum and invite all your comments. > > DOB: 25/01/1970 > TOB : 23.50 p.m. > POB : 87.41E 23.40N > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Dear Ravi, It is Bolpur, West Bengal, India. Regards, Sumit --- ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Can anybody tell what is the place of birth. ( of > course coordinates > are there, somewhat my software is not accepting > coordinates... some > problem I am not able to solve.... it prepares the > chart by namewise > fine.... I would like to cast this chart and see > ..... > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > ================================== > > jyotish-vidya, sumit dasgupta > > <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > > > Great to find the discussion group reopening. > Thanks a > > lot for the initiative. > > > > I would like to discuss the following case in the > > forum and invite all your comments. > > > > DOB: 25/01/1970 > > TOB : 23.50 p.m. > > POB : 87.41E 23.40N > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Dear Venkat, Thanks a lot for this detail analysis. I truely appreciate the effort you put in. Best regards, Sumit --- S Venkatraman <svenkat52 wrote: > Dear Sumit, > > The case that you have posted is not only > interesting but also very close to my heart. My 21 > year old son also shows a great talent for Carnatic > vocal music and is now in a dilemma as to which > career he should pursue. I have done some modest > reasearch on the horoscope of Musicians and will try > to use it in the analysis of this chart. > > I have found that lagna (because it defines the > innate talent of the native), third house > (self-effort, throat, fine arts and hence vocal > music), 10th house (karmasthana), Venus (Karaka for > music), Moon (music is emotional and needs popular > support) and Jupiter (symbolises knowledge and > blessings) have all a lot to do with musical talent > and a career in it. From this perspective let us see > what the horoscope signifies. > > Favourable points for musical talent: > > 1. Libra Lagna ruled by Venus. Lagna lord in a > kendra. > 2. Lagna occupied by lord of the 3rd Jupiter. > 3. 3rd house occupied by Mercury (speech) posited in > the Nakshatra of Venus. > 4. Lord of 10th is Moon who is in the 11th and again > in the nakshatra of Venus. > 5. Jupiter is in Navamsa lagna. > 6. Moon is in the 9th in Navamsa aspected by Jupiter > from lagna > 7. Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Exalted Mars are all in > Dashamsa Lagna. > 8. Jupiter is the lord of the 3rd in Rasi, Navamsa > and also Dashamsa. > 9. Lord of 10th is Venus in both Navamsa and > Dashamsa. > 10. In Siddhamsa (varga for learning), Exalted Sun > (lord of 5th) is in Lagna along with Venus. > > No wonder your friend showed a great talent for > music.But there are negatives as well. > > Unfavourable indications for music: > > 1. Lagna is aspected by both Saturn (who is Neecha > but gets bhanga) and Mars (Maraka in the 6th house). > 2. The 9th house is also aspected by both saturn and > Mars and the 5th is occupied Rahu (Does your friend > complain that his luck is against him?) > 3. Venus is very badly combust and aspected by > Saturn who is neecha though it is canceled. > 5. Moon is very closely conjunct with Ketu. > 6. Lord of Navamsa lagna is in the 6th. > 7. Jupiter is neecha in Navamsa which again gets > canceled. > 8. Rahu is in the 3rd in Navamsa. > 9. Jupiter is again Neecha in Dashamsa but gets > bhanga. > 10. In Dashamsa there is a conjunction of Jupiter, > Mars, Moon and Venus. Mars is Exalted and there is a > parivartana yoga between Saturn and Moon. This > overpowered Venus and took the career away from > music. > 11. Last but not the least - the dasa sequence is > not conducive to a career in Music. > > Let us now analyse the Dasa sequence: > > 1. The native runs Venus Dasa up to the age of 14.7. > He would have done well in studies and for reasons > analysed above his musical genius also would have > blossomed. But this is not career time for the > native. > 2. Sun Dasa runs till the age of 20.7. Both > education and music would have progressed quite > well. This again is not career time. > 3. It is Moon Dasa till the age of 30.7. Moon's > lordship of the 10th house in Rasi, its conjuction > with Mars in both Navamsa and dashamsa, and its > parivartana yoga with Saturn in Dashamsa took the > career away from music and made him a popular > manager. (Saturn - subordinates, Moon - popularity, > Uchha mars in dashamsa - a non-musical career). > 4. From Oct 2000, the native is running Mars Dasa. > His non-musical career would have got further > solidified. > 5. For 18 years from Oct, 2007 the native runs Rahu > Dasa. Rahu's dispositor is saturn. saturn's > dispositor is Mars. Lord of the 10th Moon aspects > Rahu from the 11th. Moon's dispositor is Sun whose > dispositor is saturn. This completes the loop and > will probably continue to favour a career other than > music. > > Though the native may not pursue music as a career, > he will always be musically minded. Music will > always keep him company because Moon is in the > Nakshatra of Lagna lord Venus. He certainly would > have continued with music as a leisure activity and > an active hobby in Moon dasa for obvious reasons, in > Mars dasa because Mars is conjunct moon in Navamsa. > He will continue to do so in Rahu Dasa because Moon > aspects Rahu. > > Mars is a Maraka (lord of 2nd and 7th) and is in the > 6th house. The native will do well to take very good > care of his health till Oct 2007 when Mars Dasa > ends. > > Regards, > Venkat > > > > > > sumit dasgupta <sumit_dasgupta wrote: > Dear Wendy, > > Great to find the discussion group reopening. Thanks > a > lot for the initiative. > > I would like to discuss the following case in the > forum and invite all your comments. > > DOB: 25/01/1970 > TOB : 23.50 p.m. > POB : 87.41E 23.40N > > This guy is a brilliant Singer, wanted to pursue > that > career but couldn't succeed. He is currently country > manager for a small MNC based in Mumbai,India doing > relatively well in his profession. > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even > more fun! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Dear Mr. Sumit, Thanks for your response. In my opinion, this individual would try his level best to pursue music as his career during enusing Rahu Dasha. Rahu and his dispositor Saturn both are aspected by Jupiter. He could get some money from this area also but that would not be the main source of income. The intriquing fact is that Rahu is in 8th in Dashamsa. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Dear Ravi, Thanks for your input. Best regards, Sumit --- ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Mr. Sumit, > > Thanks for your response. > > In my opinion, this individual would try his level > best to pursue > music as his career during enusing Rahu Dasha. Rahu > and his > dispositor Saturn both are aspected by Jupiter. He > could get some > money from this area also but that would not be the > main source of > income. The intriquing fact is that Rahu is in 8th > in Dashamsa. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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