Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 > I have some friends who believe in consulting the astrologer before the >birth of a child and as per the suggestions, they try to influence the >doctor and plan for the birth time in case of a cesarean section. In case of ceasarian section, the Moon will be influenced by malefics, especially Mars and Ketu together. Just make sure the Moon will not be in the 8th house from lagna, arudha lagna or atmakaraka and the ascendant is not weak, in case you can choose the time. I also agree with first breath as the actual birthtime, since this will cause the child's prana (life-air) to be separate from the mother, and thus life starts at that moment. Yours sincerely, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 lol - i dont know that they record the time when the baby cries !!!!! there has been discussion in other lists abt it. and how many of us in asia depends on hospital records and how many hospitals record the time in these countires? most of the cases we know the time from our mothers / relatives present in the delivery place. in advanced countries like USA they record the time and even then sometimes astrologers have to correct (rectify) the birth time for even 15 mins even after the hospital recorded the time!!! What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Thiwanka Wimalasuriya Tanvir Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:12 PM birth time hi, but in practice they record the time the baby cries for the first time , don't they ? So if what you telling is true all our chart are inaccurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 When baby crys first time, takes first breathe also. So it is considered as its life has been started. So crying or breathing time should be considered. But one thing always confuses me. We all know that genetic map / DNA map of any person is decided 270 days before birth. In another word whatever birth time DNA map remains same and that is 90% of human life. So what is the significant meaning of birth time. Tushar --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > lol - i dont know that they record the time when the > baby cries !!!!! > there has been discussion in other lists abt it. > > and how many of us in asia depends on hospital > records and how many hospitals record the time in > these countires? most of the cases we know the time > from our mothers / relatives present in the delivery > place. in advanced countries like USA they record > the time and even then sometimes astrologers have to > correct (rectify) the birth time for even 15 mins > even after the hospital recorded the time!!! > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > - > Thiwanka Wimalasuriya > Tanvir > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:12 PM > birth time > > > hi, > > but in practice they record the time the baby > cries for the first time , don't they ? > > So if what you telling is true all our chart are > inaccurate > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Hi Tushar, Nope! The life does not start when he takes his first breath! Because even in mother's uterus, the baby's heart pounds, he moves his hands, legs... these happen in the advanced stage of pregnancy - but even from the first moment when the father's and mother's cell conjuncts, even from then he needs food which is supplied from mother's body... so in fact, that is the start of life - start of his biological existance! Why will you tell that the fetus has no life ! It grows, needs food... and all these, so right a few hours of the union of the parents, the baby gets a life! But to see from astrological view we should have to consider, "when the baby comes to the world" ie it "takes birth" and that should be when it comes out of mom's body! Do not you think so? :-) PS it is not always 270 days as you said. It varies person to person! Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - tushar trivedi Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:11 PM Re: Re: birth time When baby crys first time, takes first breathe also. So it is considered as its life has been started. So crying or breathing time should be considered. But one thing always confuses me. We all know that genetic map / DNA map of any person is decided 270 days before birth. In another word whatever birth time DNA map remains same and that is 90% of human life. So what is the significant meaning of birth time. Tushar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Dear Tanvir, You misunderstood my view. When I said 'Life starts' means starting of his/her own life in this world or on earth. So I said the same thing you said. 270 days is average time said by medical science for human. Off course it veries case to case but here point is not how many days? but point is that 70% of person's characteristics are decided so many days before birth at the time of conjuction of cell(s) so what is the significant meaning of birth time? I means to ask that what does birth time indicates? Tushar --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > Hi Tushar, > > Nope! The life does not start when he takes his > first breath! Because even in mother's uterus, the > baby's heart pounds, he moves his hands, legs... > these happen in the advanced stage of pregnancy - > but even from the first moment when the father's and > mother's cell conjuncts, even from then he needs > food which is supplied from mother's body... so in > fact, that is the start of life - start of his > biological existance! Why will you tell that the > fetus has no life ! It grows, needs food... and all > these, so right a few hours of the union of the > parents, the baby gets a life! > > But to see from astrological view we should have to > consider, "when the baby comes to the world" ie it > "takes birth" and that should be when it comes out > of mom's body! Do not you think so? :-) > > PS it is not always 270 days as you said. It varies > person to person! > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > - > tushar trivedi > > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:11 PM > Re: Re: birth time > > > When baby crys first time, takes first breathe > also. > So it is considered as its life has been started. > So > crying or breathing time should be considered. > > But one thing always confuses me. We all know that > genetic map / DNA map of any person is decided 270 > days before birth. In another word whatever birth > time > DNA map remains same and that is 90% of human > life. So > what is the significant meaning of birth time. > > Tushar > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Hi Tushar, Well life means active existance of a biological being, so it has life when in mother's uterus. But as you wanted to mean 'Life in world' in that case of course it should be when he comes out to "this world" means this air, light etc - should not that be when it comes out, rather than breathing? Breathing means taking oxygen and leaving CO2, that still continues in mother's body. But if you agree that it is "starting own life in earth" then you will have to agree that it is the time of coming out! Should not you? :-) Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - tushar trivedi Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:37 PM Re: Re: birth time Dear Tanvir, You misunderstood my view. When I said 'Life starts' means starting of his/her own life in this world or on earth. So I said the same thing you said. 270 days is average time said by medical science for human. Off course it veries case to case but here point is not how many days? but point is that 70% of person's characteristics are decided so many days before birth at the time of conjuction of cell(s) so what is the significant meaning of birth time? I means to ask that what does birth time indicates? Tushar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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