Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 Dear Hari, Take your thinking a bit further. What if there was mars posted with jupiter who is debilitated? then her ista would have been hanuman/Narasimha/Skanda. (any one of them). Thus in the absence of a more powerful planet with jupiter, jupiter would denote the ista. Ashwin: Now, taking the above explanation, in rambha's case, Jupiter is in Debiliation - Venus is in friends sign of Saturn - Venus becomes Stronger (isn't it). Hence, it should be denoted by Venus rather than Jupiter. With context to your above explantion how does Jupiter becomes important for Ishta-Devta?. The difference between Rasi dristi and Graha Drishti is as follows. Rasi's are parmanent in nature where as graha's are not. Thus if any parmanent source aspects, then that aspect itself is parmanent. Thus Rasi drishti is parmanent in nature and the involved rasi;s have parmanent knowledge of each other. For example, Aries will never forget Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius. Graha drishti is only temporary. Thus Graha Dristi only indicates a desire denoted by that planet. Desires are swayed by maya. Now, when we talk of planets aspecting the 12th we acutally mean Rasi Drishti alone since they are parmanent. Ashwin : Lovely Explanation. Thnx once again. I look forward to learning more things like this. I think you are refering to the mail of a senior member in some other list, right? i think it would be unfair for the guru's of that list to start taking the discussions from that list to this list. In anycase, See how many rasi aspects are there to the 12th from the karakamsa. Planets in those signs guide the native to his/her Ista. Ashwin: Yes, i am referring to mail by a senior member on some-other list but i used this sentence just to make you remind who wrote this sentence "let the person start praying and in the mean-time the ishta will himself show him the path towards him (ishta-devta)" and not to pull the discussion from other list to this list. Also, to find out if Lord hanuman will take her to her ishta. For my-knowledge can you explain in a layman's language which god "Samba Shiva (Guru Rupa)" will represent. Will it be Lord Shiva or any other god? Let's meditate more! Ashwin: I am still confused. which god will it represent? Can i ask you once again to explain me in simple language which god will it be ? I am sorry if i sound hungry for it ( may be because i have Jupiter in the 10 th ). Expecting your reply, Regards, Ashwin -- On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:24:08 Katti Narahari wrote: >Om Guruave Namah > >Dear Ashwin, > >My comments are in red. > >- >"ASHWIN HIRANI" <ashviyn ><Vedic Astrology> >Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:54 PM >[Vedic Astrology] [Hari ]Few Queries : Ishta-Devta > > >> Dear Hari, >> >> It's a pleasure to see your reply to my mail. >> >> I was confused regarding the aspect of mars on Jup. & Venus and also about praying to Hanumanji on Tuesday. Thankx for the clarification. I am still learning Rashi Drishti and not conversant with it fully. There are still a few doubts. >> >> In her chart Jupiter is debilitated though ahead in degrees. Still should Jupiter be given the consideration or should it be the lord of the house i.e. Saturn. Also, Venus is in friendly sign. Hence he also becomes the contender for denoting the ishta. > >Take your thinking a bit further. What if there was mars posted with jupiter who is debilitated? then her ista would have been hanuman/Narasimha/Skanda. (any one of them). Thus in the absence of a more powerful planet with jupiter, jupiter would denote the ista. > >> >> Now, "All the planets aspecting the 12th will give the result". Hence shall I consider Mars aspect also or it will only be rashi drishti that will be considered and no effect of graha drishti is to be taken into account. > >The difference between Rasi dristi and Graha Drishti is as follows. Rasi's are parmanent in nature where as graha's are not. Thus if any parmanent source aspects, then that aspect itself is parmanent. Thus Rasi drishti is parmanent in nature and the involved rasi;s have parmanent knowledge of each other. For example, Aries will never forget Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius. Graha drishti is only temporary. Thus Graha Dristi only indicates a desire denoted by that planet. Desires are swayed by maya. Now, when we talk of planets aspecting the 12th we acutally mean Rasi Drishti alone since they are parmanent. >> >> In one of the mails by a senior member it was written that let the person start praying and in the mean-time the ishta will himself show him the path towards him (ishta-devta). In Rambha's case - she is praying to Lord-Hanuman. Will it be that due to mars graha drishti that she will hence find out a way to her ishta devta or she should start praying to ishta-devta as derived from her horoscope. > >I think you are refering to the mail of a senior member in some other list, right? i think it would be unfair for the guru's of that list to start taking the discussions from that list to this list. In anycase, See how many rasi aspects are there to the 12th from the karakamsa. Planets in those signs guide the native to his/her Ista. > >> >> For my-knowledge can you explain in a layman's language which god "Samba Shiva (Guru Rupa)" will represent. Will it be Lord Shiva or any other god? > >Let's meditate more! >> >> Also, would you elaborate on who will take her to her ishta-devta. I am confused here. >> >> Kindly throw light on the above. >> >> Thnx 1ce again. I look forward to your co-operation in the near future. >> >> Regards, >> Ashwin > >Regards > >Hari > _____ WIN a first class trip to Hawaii. Live like the King of Rock and Roll on the big Island. Enter Now! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 PLeaase explain to me which god is Samba siva in our northern god forms?- Lord rudra? But then hanumaan ji is also a n incarnation of lord Siva if that is what you mean . Utterly utterly confused. Thanks for the help anyway. namaskar, Rambha. - ASHWIN HIRANI Vedic Astrology Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:29 PM [Vedic Astrology] [ Hari ] A few more Dear Hari,Take your thinking a bit further. What if there was mars posted with jupiter who is debilitated? then her ista would have been hanuman/Narasimha/Skanda. (any one of them). Thus in the absence of a more powerful planet with jupiter, jupiter would denote the ista. Ashwin: Now, taking the above explanation, in rambha's case, Jupiter is in Debiliation - Venus is in friends sign of Saturn - Venus becomes Stronger (isn't it). Hence, it should be denoted by Venus rather than Jupiter. With context to your above explantion how does Jupiter becomes important for Ishta-Devta?.The difference between Rasi dristi and Graha Drishti is as follows. Rasi's are parmanent in nature where as graha's are not. Thus if any parmanent source aspects, then that aspect itself is parmanent. Thus Rasi drishti is parmanent in nature and the involved rasi;s have parmanent knowledge of each other. For example, Aries will never forget Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius. Graha drishti is only temporary. Thus Graha Dristi only indicates a desire denoted by that planet. Desires are swayed by maya. Now, when we talk of planets aspecting the 12th we acutally mean Rasi Drishti alone since they are parmanent. Ashwin : Lovely Explanation. Thnx once again. I look forward to learning more things like this. I think you are refering to the mail of a senior member in some other list, right? i think it would be unfair for the guru's of that list to start taking the discussions from that list to this list. In anycase, See how many rasi aspects are there to the 12th from the karakamsa. Planets in those signs guide the native to his/her Ista.Ashwin: Yes, i am referring to mail by a senior member on some-other list but i used this sentence just to make you remind who wrote this sentence "let the person start praying and in the mean-time the ishta will himself show him the path towards him (ishta-devta)" and not to pull the discussion from other list to this list. Also, to find out if Lord hanuman will take her to her ishta. For my-knowledge can you explain in a layman's language which god "Samba Shiva (Guru Rupa)" will represent. Will it be Lord Shiva or any other god?Let's meditate more!Ashwin: I am still confused. which god will it represent? Can i ask you once again to explain me in simple language which god will it be ? I am sorry if i sound hungry for it ( may be because i have Jupiter in the 10 th ). Expecting your reply,Regards,Ashwin--On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:24:08 Katti Narahari wrote:>Om Guruave Namah>>Dear Ashwin,>>My comments are in red.>>- >"ASHWIN HIRANI" <ashviyn (AT) mailcity (DOT) com>><Vedic Astrology>>Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:54 PM>[Vedic Astrology] [Hari ]Few Queries : Ishta-Devta>>>> Dear Hari,>> >> It's a pleasure to see your reply to my mail.>> >> I was confused regarding the aspect of mars on Jup. & Venus and also about praying to Hanumanji on Tuesday. Thankx for the clarification. I am still learning Rashi Drishti and not conversant with it fully. There are still a few doubts.>> >> In her chart Jupiter is debilitated though ahead in degrees. Still should Jupiter be given the consideration or should it be the lord of the house i.e. Saturn. Also, Venus is in friendly sign. Hence he also becomes the contender for denoting the ishta.>>Take your thinking a bit further. What if there was mars posted with jupiter who is debilitated? then her ista would have been hanuman/Narasimha/Skanda. (any one of them). Thus in the absence of a more powerful planet with jupiter, jupiter would denote the ista. >>> >> Now, "All the planets aspecting the 12th will give the result". Hence shall I consider Mars aspect also or it will only be rashi drishti that will be considered and no effect of graha drishti is to be taken into account.>>The difference between Rasi dristi and Graha Drishti is as follows. Rasi's are parmanent in nature where as graha's are not. Thus if any parmanent source aspects, then that aspect itself is parmanent. Thus Rasi drishti is parmanent in nature and the involved rasi;s have parmanent knowledge of each other. For example, Aries will never forget Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius. Graha drishti is only temporary. Thus Graha Dristi only indicates a desire denoted by that planet. Desires are swayed by maya. Now, when we talk of planets aspecting the 12th we acutally mean Rasi Drishti alone since they are parmanent. >> >> In one of the mails by a senior member it was written that let the person start praying and in the mean-time the ishta will himself show him the path towards him (ishta-devta). In Rambha's case - she is praying to Lord-Hanuman. Will it be that due to mars graha drishti that she will hence find out a way to her ishta devta or she should start praying to ishta-devta as derived from her horoscope.>>I think you are refering to the mail of a senior member in some other list, right? i think it would be unfair for the guru's of that list to start taking the discussions from that list to this list. In anycase, See how many rasi aspects are there to the 12th from the karakamsa. Planets in those signs guide the native to his/her Ista.>>> >> For my-knowledge can you explain in a layman's language which god "Samba Shiva (Guru Rupa)" will represent. Will it be Lord Shiva or any other god?>>Let's meditate more!>> >> Also, would you elaborate on who will take her to her ishta-devta. I am confused here.>> >> Kindly throw light on the above.>> >> Thnx 1ce again. I look forward to your co-operation in the near future.>> >> Regards,>> Ashwin>>Regards>>Hari>_____WIN a first class trip to Hawaii. Live like the King of Rock and Rollon the big Island. Enter Now!http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakesGet Free! astrological consultancy!http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology/index.shtmlTo from this group, send an email to:Vedic Astrology-OM TAT SAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 Dear Rambha, This is exactly what i want to know which god will represent Samba Siva. And have requested Hari to throw light on this. Let's wait for his reply, Regards, Ashwin -- On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:46:42 anukochhar wrote: > >PLeaase explain to me which god is Samba siva in our northern god forms?- Lord rudra? But then hanumaan ji is also an incarnation of lord Siva if that is what you mean . Utterly utterly confused. Thanks for the help anyway. namaskar, > >Rambha. _____ WIN a first class trip to Hawaii. Live like the King of Rock and Roll on the big Island. Enter Now! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.