Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 In my Western chart, I have Sagittarius rising, and just recently I learned that my Vedic rising sign is Scorpio. As far as I have been able to gather, these two go by extremely different chracteristics. The switch from Virgo to Leo Sun just adds to the confusion! I'm SO not a Leo - in my own eyes... My Moon is in Taurus in both cases. I have noticed that some of the scorpionic traits are "compensated" for in my Western chart, with aspects like Mars conj Pluto. I'm just wondering what the actual difference is between the personality traits ascribed to one by the two types of "systems", and why there would be differences when you're supposed to buy into a certain degree of determinism inherit in the natal chart? I'm an absolute beginner, so if anyone is as good as to provide me with a response, I'd prefer that it doesn't get too philospohical. Thank you in advance:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Vixen, u are desribing me. I am a Sag in Western Astrology but in Vedic i have a Scorpio Asc. I cant get used to the idea. Also in Western Ast. i have a Piscus Moon and in Vedic I have a Taurus moon. Il be watching for the answers u get. Regards - "vixen76_2001" <trachel76 <Vedic Astrology> Monday, May 06, 2002 2:47 AM [Vedic Astrology] From Sag to Scorpio rising?! > In my Western chart, I have Sagittarius rising, and just recently I > learned that my Vedic rising sign is Scorpio. > As far as I have been able to gather, these two go by extremely > different chracteristics. The switch from Virgo to Leo Sun just adds > to the confusion! I'm SO not a Leo - in my own eyes... > My Moon is in Taurus in both cases. > I have noticed that some of the scorpionic traits are "compensated" > for in my Western chart, with aspects like Mars conj Pluto. > I'm just wondering what the actual difference is between the > personality traits ascribed to one by the two types of "systems", and > why there would be differences when you're supposed to buy into a > certain degree of determinism inherit in the natal chart? > I'm an absolute beginner, so if anyone is as good as to provide me > with a response, I'd prefer that it doesn't get too philospohical. > > Thank you in advance:) > > > > Get Free! astrological consultancy! > http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology/index.shtml > > > Vedic Astrology- > > OM TAT SAT > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is tropical. Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather it is event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the anayasma is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For more info go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I have to say I don't feel much wiser, but thanks for caring:) About going to the bookstore; I live in Norway, and there's limited interest in astrology in general. Therefore, it's very difficult to come across comprehensive literature on the subject. The internet is my main source of information; I wasn't being lazy. Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is tropical. > Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather it is > event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the anayasma > is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For more info > go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 here is a pretty good sight for learning... http://ganesh-astro.iinet.net.au/ Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > I have to say I don't feel much wiser, but thanks for caring:) > About going to the bookstore; I live in Norway, and there's limited > interest in astrology in general. Therefore, it's very difficult to > come across comprehensive literature on the subject. The internet is > my main source of information; I wasn't being lazy. > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is > tropical. > > Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather it is > > event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the > anayasma > > is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For more > info > > go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Thank you, thank you, thank you! I appreciate it so very much:) Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > here is a pretty good sight for learning... > > http://ganesh-astro.iinet.net.au/ Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > > I have to say I don't feel much wiser, but thanks for caring:) > > About going to the bookstore; I live in Norway, and there's limited > > interest in astrology in general. Therefore, it's very difficult to > > come across comprehensive literature on the subject. The internet is > > my main source of information; I wasn't being lazy. > > > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > > Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is > > tropical. > > > Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather it is > > > event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the > > anayasma > > > is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For more > > info > > > go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > Thank you, thank you, thank you! I appreciate it so very much:) > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > here is a pretty good sight for learning... > > > > http://ganesh-astro.iinet.net.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > > > I have to say I don't feel much wiser, but thanks for caring:) > > > About going to the bookstore; I live in Norway, and there's > limited > > > interest in astrology in general. Therefore, it's very difficult > to > > > come across comprehensive literature on the subject. The internet > is > > > my main source of information; I wasn't being lazy. > > > > > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > > > Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is > > > tropical. > > > > Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather it > is > > > > event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the > > > anayasma > > > > is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For > more > > > info > > > > go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. Dear member, go to the web site and get u r chart. don't worry about the ayanamsa. it is a big stuff to understand. No use of trying west (sayana ) system with east (niryana ) system to compare. Both differ a lot regarding predictions. u look like scorpion asc according to niryana system of east. because u have a firm grip like scorpion.(this prediction per east nirayana.) Anyhow regarding predictions, character, don't try to mix both. to get ur chart go http://www.astromandir.com go there. it is lahiri ayanamsam most famous astrologers of the world use it. also it has bava positions such as begnning mid end points . these r very useful stuffs. earlier I too had some severe problems regarding mixing both system. anyhow we are here to help you. don't hesitate to ask further questions. kind regards, Siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Thank u very much for the site of Basic Vedic. ALSO the following site u can get a free version of software called Junior Jotish which has different types of charts. Vedic and also Vedic information on Wheels. www.ijotishtools.com I hope u find this useful Sue - "sivagnanalingam" <sivatheva <Vedic Astrology> Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:23 PM [Vedic Astrology] Re: From Sag to Scorpio rising?! > Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! I appreciate it so very much:) > > > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > > here is a pretty good sight for learning... > > > > > > http://ganesh-astro.iinet.net.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology, "vixen76_2001" <trachel76@h...> wrote: > > > > I have to say I don't feel much wiser, but thanks for caring:) > > > > About going to the bookstore; I live in Norway, and there's > > limited > > > > interest in astrology in general. Therefore, it's very > difficult > > to > > > > come across comprehensive literature on the subject. The > internet > > is > > > > my main source of information; I wasn't being lazy. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology, "amcafe" <amcafe> wrote: > > > > > Vedic astrology uses the sidereal zodiac. Whereas western is > > > > tropical. > > > > > Vedic is not a study of psychological traits per se, rather > it > > is > > > > > event oriented. There is a bit of controversy as to what the > > > > anayasma > > > > > is though. It is approx. 23 degrees less than tropical. For > > more > > > > info > > > > > go to the bookstore and read about vedic astrology. > > Dear member, go to the web site and get u r chart. don't worry > about the ayanamsa. it is a big stuff to understand. > No use of trying west (sayana ) system with east (niryana ) system > to compare. Both differ a lot regarding predictions. > u look like scorpion asc according to niryana system of east. because > u > > have a firm grip like scorpion.(this prediction per east nirayana.) > Anyhow regarding predictions, character, don't try to mix both. > to get ur chart go http://www.astromandir.com go there. > it is lahiri ayanamsam most famous astrologers of the world use it. > also it has bava positions such as begnning mid end points . these > r very useful stuffs. > earlier I too had some severe problems regarding mixing both system. > anyhow we are here to help you. don't hesitate to ask further > questions. > > kind regards, > > Siva > > > > > > Get Free! astrological consultancy! > http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology/index.shtml > > > Vedic Astrology- > > OM TAT SAT > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Hello, The two systems have to be taken separately. That eliminates confusion, they represent different perspectives, that's all. They have to be studied as a whole on separate basis. The tropical zodiac is supposedly shifting it's meanings over time to account for the stars gradual movements across the sky. Tha's one approach. In the east the face is the second house. Also in the east, the rising sign determines the house rulerships distinctly, that makes a huge difference. Aloha, Sally In my Western chart, I have Sagittarius rising, and just recently I learned that my Vedic rising sign is Scorpio. As far as I have been able to gather, these two go by extremely different chracteristics. The switch from Virgo to Leo Sun just adds to the confusion! I'm SO not a Leo - in my own eyes...My Moon is in Taurus in both cases.I have noticed that some of the scorpionic traits are "compensated" for in my Western chart, with aspects like Mars conj Pluto. I'm just wondering what the actual difference is between the personality traits ascribed to one by the two types of "systems", and why there would be differences when you're supposed to buy into a certain degree of determinism inherit in the natal chart? I'm an absolute beginner, so if anyone is as good as to provide me with a response, I'd prefer that it doesn't get too philospohical. Thank you in advance:)Get Free! astrological consultancy!http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology/index.shtmlTo from this group, send an email to:Vedic Astrology-OM TAT SAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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