Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 thank you for this quick response. Time = local time Amsterdam, Holland -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Vedic Astrology [Vedic Astrology ] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 januari 2001 17:22 Aan: Vedic Astrology Onderwerp: [Vedic Astrology] Digest Number 42 Join Vedic Astrology Chat Room Free! http://www.sonipat.com Vedic Astrology- OM TAT SAT ------ There are 4 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Ashok Garg's chart - S.A. "Batas, Sateesh K" <Sateesh.K.Batas 2. [vedic astrology] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) "Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS 3. "Babyscoop" <babyscoop 4. Sv: "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 15 Jan 2001 17:13:39 Z "Batas, Sateesh K" <Sateesh.K.Batas Re: Ashok Garg's chart - S.A. Sateesh Batas 15/01/2001 17:13:43 Worldwide Deals Innovation Executive Worldwide Deals Innovation Global Dealing HFB1, Europe House, Waterside Tel: +44 (0) 20 8738 3608 / Ext. 83608 Fax: +44 (0) 20 8738 9747 / Ext. 89747 E-mail: Sateesh.K.Batas Vedic Astrology cc: bcc: Ashok Garg's chart - S.A. Dear Ashok, These are my S.A. views on your Chart underneath your Statements, in CAPS. - Ashok Garg Vedic Astrology Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:37 AM [Vedic Astrology] Begineers Chart Analysis As a beginner in astrology, I am trying to analyse my own chart first. I give below my analysis of the chart and seek comments if I am right or I need to change/ modify my approach. All comments in my effort to learn shall be most appreciated. USING S.A., YOUR FMS (FUNCTIONAL MALEFICS) ARE MOON (6TH LORD), MERCURY (MOST MALEFIC PLANET AS 8TH LORD) AND RAHU AND KETU. ALL OTHER PLANETS ARE FBS (FUNCTIONAL BENEFICS). You all may notice that I have taken a logical/scientific approach (well I am an Engineer working in Computing field). MY THOUGHTS ON YOU BEING AN ENGINEER IN COMPUTERS - NO MT (MOOLATRIKONA) SIGN IN 10TH HOUSE OF CAREER, NOR IN 2ND HOUSE OF STATUS - 1ST LORD IS MT SIGN OF AQUARIUS, SO SATURN IS LAGNA LORD - SATURN IS POSITIONED IN THE 8TH HOUSE OF RESEARCH, AND DISPOSITED BY THE PLANET OF COMMUNICATIONS (MERCURY) - MERCURY IS CONJUNCT A VERY POWERFUL SUN, WHICH GIVES GOOD ORGANISATIONAL POWER - BLEND THAT WITH THE LOGIC OF MERCURY, WITH LAGNA LORD IN THE 8TH HOUSE OF RESEARCH - COULD GIVE A COMPUTER ENGINEER. JUPITER IS THE 11TH LORD OF INCOME, AND IS ON THE 3RD MEP OF [iNITIATIVES/COMMUNICATIONS/WRITINGS - COULD INVOLVE OF COURSE PROGRAMMING] - SO INCOME FROM SUCH THINGS. IN ADDITION, JUPITER 9TH-ASPECTS ITS OWN (11TH) MEP, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL. (MEP = MOST EFFECTIVE POINT - YOUR RISING DEGREE IS 3*27 - SO ALL HOUSES MEO IS 3*27ANY PLANET CONJUNCT OR ASPECTING THE MEP OF ANY HOUSE *WITHIN A 5 DEGREE RANGE EITHER SIDE, I.E. FROM 28*27 TO 8*27* HAS A CONSIDERABLE INFLUENCE ON THAT HOUSE. PLANET-TO-PLANET CONJUNCTIONS/ASPECTS NATALLY/BY TRANSIT ALSO GO BY THIS 5-DEGREE ORB EITHER SIDE OF THE PLANET IN QUESTION.) It may not be the right approach, but it may be how most beginners might start it, hence I continue. ********************************** I analyse the Lagna first and the planet in the Lagna ie Venus and Rahu. I hope to continue with other house analysis (in serial from 1 to 12) in subsequent posts if this experiment goes well. I shall answer all questions re my past with dates etc if needed to help this study. RAHU IS IN THE MEP RANGE, SO AFFLICTS THE 1ST MEP [sELF] BY CONJUNCTION, AND THE 5TH MEP [CHILDREN/ROMANCE/SPECULATIONS/HIGHER LEARNING/INTELLIGENCE], 7TH MEP [sPOUSE/BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS/FOREIGN RELATIONSHIPS] AND 9TH MEP [FATHER/FORTUNE/GURU] MEPS BY ASPECT - CORRESPONDINGLY, KETU AFFLICTS THE 7TH MEP BY CINJUNCTION, AS WELL AS THE 11TH MEP [iNCOME/OLDER SIBLINGS/GAINS/HAPPINESS FROM FRIENDS], 1ST MEP AND 3RD MEP [YOUNGER SIBLINGS] - PERHAPS YOU ARE SOMEWHAT DETACHED IN RELATIONSHIPS, OR ENJOY THE COMPANY OF FOREIGN FRIENDS - HAPPINESS/CLOSENESS WITH YOUNGER/OLDER SIBLINGS COULD BE DENIED DUE TO KETU. (WE MUST BEAR IN MIND THAT YOUR BIRTH-TIME IS IN QUESTION), SO MAYBE RAHU AND KETU DO NOT AFFLICT THE MEP AFTER ALL... Ruler of the first house Saturn is in the 8th house points to poor health, weak vitality, short life, accidents, large debts etc etc ( per James Braha book). IN S.A. TOO THIS WOULD BE THE CASE, EXCEPT YOUR SIGNIFICATOR (KARAKA) FOR SELF (SUN) IS EXTREMELY STRONG. IN FACT, I WONDER IF YOU ARE AQUARIUS RISING, AS BY THIS CHART, THE DISPOSITOR FOR SATURN (MERCURY) IS DEBILITATED IN PISCES - SO YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT HAD VERY GOOD HEALTH, ETC. - BUT AGAIN PERHAPS SUN OVER-RIDES THESE FACTORS. But this has not been the case. I think I have had good health overall (except chronic constipation which I am constantly helping myself by attention to diet). I BELIEVE CONSTIPATION IS A RESULT OF A WEAK MERCURY - MERCURY IS ALSO COMBUST WITH SUN. Venus in the first house points to Happiness, healthy and long life, lucky, wealthy etc etc. Marrige being a great source of happiness. Since Venus is Yogakarka. Probably answers my questions above. Venus has taken over the bad influences of 1st lord in the eight. VENUS IS YOGAKARAKA, BUT SUFFERS FROM OLD AGE AND A WEAK DISPOSITOR (BADLY PLACED AND BADLY DISPOSITED SATURN). VENUS IS ALSO AWAY FROM THE 1ST MEP, SO INFLUENCE IS VERY SLIGHT ON YOU. AS LIBRA IS MT SIGN OF VENUS, AND IS YOUR 9TH HOUSE S.A. SAYS VENUS IS YOUR 9TH LORD MORE THAN YOUR 4TH LORD (TAURUS = NON-MT SIGN OF VENUS). PERHAPS [FATHER/RELIGION] INFLUENCE YOU (9TH LORD IN 1ST). AM I RIGHT ? Since I am looking at my own chart I can assume this, how do I do it for a new chart? (Venus: Venus is Yogakarka being in Acquarius sign, is in friend's sign (so has +ve energy) But is aspected by Rahu ( hence carries -ve energy).) RAHU HAS NO IMPACT ON VENUS AS IT IS WELL OUTSIDE THE 5 DEGREE ORB FROM VENUS. Rahu in 1st, is bad for domestic happiness, constant ups and down in married life. Yes I have had ups and down, but over all I have had and excellent married life. SO what is countering this affect. ( Can some experts comment on this please, ) YES, YOUR INTERPRETATION IS CORRECT OF RAHU-MARRIAGE - S.A. USES THE 7TH [sPOUSE], THEN 2ND [MARRIED FAMILY], 4TH [MARITAL HAPPINESS], 8TH [MARITAL TIE] AND 12TH [bED PLEASURES] HOUSES/LORDS, IF MT SIGNS ARE THERE. THE FIRST OF THESE HOUSES IS LEO, WHICH IS MT SIGN OF SUN - SUN IS VERY POWERFUL AND WELL PLACED IN THE 2ND HOUSE OF [FAMILY/WEALTH] - SO YOUR 7TH LORD COUNTERACTS RAHU AND KETU'S BAD INFLUENCE ON THE 7TH MEP. WIFE SHOULD HAVE GOOD ORGANISATIONAL POWERS, AND OF A STRONG WILLED NATURE. SLIGHT AFFLICTION TO SUN FROM DEBILITATED MERCURY MAY CAUSE A FEW PROBLEMS FOR HER/YOUR MARRIAGE, BUT NOT MUCH. 2ND HOUSE IS NON-MT SIGN PISCES, WHICH IS A SPIRITUAL SIGN - WIFE MAY BE SPIRITUAL (SUN IN PISCES). 4TH HOUSE IS NON-MT. 8TH HOUSE IS MT - LORD IS MERCURY, WHICH IS A VOLATILE, CONSTANTLY CHANGING PLANET AND IS WEAK - HENCE UPS AND DOWNS IN LIFE - BUT SUN KEEPS MERCURY IN ORDER! (Rahu in the friend's sign aspected by Venus hence good, Has Rahu -ve influence been reduced because of this.) RAHU IS DISPOSITED BY A WEAK SATURN, SO NOT GOOD FOR 1ST HOUSE - SATURN CANNOT PROTECT AQUARIUS FROM RAHU/KETU - S.A. DOES NOT CONSIDER FRIENDSHIPS, ALTHOUGH IT IS SAID RAHU IS SIMILAR TO SATURN IN VEDIC ASTROLOGY. *********************************** In my analysis Venus as a benefic and yogakarka has overtaken and having very strong +ve influence for Langa (hence over all in the chart). Is this correct? SEE ABOVE COMMENTS FOR SUN. ************************************ I would try to keep my first post short but wish to jump to the Next Dasa period from 27-11-2003. ie Venus dasa period for 20 years. (Since we discussed Venus as Lagna residing planet ) This Venus(good) dasa period is being countered by Sade Sati (starting from April 2001) and continuing for 7 1/2 years. I understand that influence of Sade Sati is dependent upon the Astakvarga points. My astakvarga point are 26, 22 and 35 for the 4th 5th and 6th house. (Astakvarga calculations as per Dr VB Raman book and need average of 28) . Since my Moon is in 5th house, has only 22 points, so the -ve influence shall be staring from about 2003 for 2 1/2 years or more. S.A. DOES NOT USE ASTAKVARGA, NOR BELIEVE IN SADE SATI IN ITS TRADITIONAL SENSE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IN YOUR CASE SATURN IS A FB AS IT IS YOUR LAGNA LORD - IN FACT, THE ONLY TIME I WOULD SAY SADE-SATI IS BAD FOR YOU IS WHEN TRANSIT SATURN PASSES OVER YOUR NATAL FM RAHU, AND IT RECEIVES A DOUBLE MALEFIC INFLUENCE AS NATAL KETU HARMS IT! I NOTE THAT SADE-SATI IS USUALLY 12TH/1ST/2ND HOUSE FROM NATAL MOON - BUT S.A. RECKONS TRANSITS FROM LAGNA, NOT MOON - SO I WILL REFER TO "SADE-SATI" IN TERMS OF 12TH/1ST/2ND FROM LAGNA INSTEAD. LET'S REWIND HERE - NOTE - AS MOON IS A FM FOR YOU (6TH LORD), WHEN TRANSIT SATURN PASSES CLOSE TO NATAL MOON OR OPPOSITE NATAL MOON, IT IS IN FACT *MOON* WHO IS CAUSING YOU BAD EFFECTS - *NOT* TRANSIT SATURN! My previous SadeSati caused problems in my Education and initial Career. Although keeping in perspective, my education was quite satisfying and fairly good too. SEE ABOVE COMMENTS ON SATURN TRANSIT OVER NATAL RAHU - ALSO, AS SATURN IS YOUR LAGNA LORD, IT WILL BE BADLY PLACED WHEN TRANSITING IN THE 12TH HOUSE OF LOSSES (FIRST STAGE OF "SADE-SATI"). SEE ALSO ABOVE COMMENTS ABOUT TRANSIT SATURN PASSING OVER/OPPOSITE NATAL MOON. As a beginner, I am not able to understand how to blend these two influences together. *************************************** So over all I think Venus has been the most +ve influence in my chart (Lagna has the over all influence) and has guided my life for better ( with all the associated problems or learning experiences as I would like to call these) VENUS IS SOMEWHAT WEAK - I WOULD ATTRIBUTE SUN AS THE MAIN STRENGTH IN YOUR CHART - SEE IF YOU HAVE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN THE SUN'S SUB-PERIODS (BHUKTIS). Lastly, can some experts please help me, how can I take my analyses of the Lagna further more deep etc. (Note: If some one wants to jump ahead and point me or discuss some other glaring aspect of the chart, please write. I shall try to comprehend that part first rather than starting in serial from house 1 to 12.) Thanks for your attention and comments. Ashok I HOPE THIS IS OF USE. Very best - Sateesh. ======== Ashok Garg Apr 3,1952 Time: 4:00AM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 Delhi, India Longitude: 77E13 Latitude: 28N40 Lahiri Ayanamsa: 23:12 365.25 Day Year Current Period: Ke/Ju/Sa As 03:27 Aq Dhanishtha Ma Su 19:56 Pi Revati Me Mo 26:08 Ge Punarvasu Ju MaR 24:48 Li Vishakha Ju MeR 24:17 Pi Revati Me Ju 00:35 Ar Aswini Ke Ve 28:10 Aq P.Bhadra Ju SaR 18:19 Vi Hasta Mo Ra 06:31 Aq Dhanishtha Ma Ke 06:31 Le Magha Ke Vimshottari Dashas ================== Ju Apr-03-1952 Sa Nov-23-1960 Me Nov-23-1979 Ke Nov-23-1996 Ve Nov-23-2003 Su Nov-23-2023 Mo Nov-23-2029 Ma Nov-23-2039 Ra Nov-23-2046 Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU 19:56 * * * * * MER24:17* * 10 * * * * * AS 03:27 * * * *JU 00:35 1 * RA 06:31 * 9 * * * * VE 28:10 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 11 * * * ** * * ** * 2 * 8 * ** * * ** * * * 5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *MO 26:08 3 * KE 06:31 * 7 MAR24:48* * * * * * * * * 4 * * 6 * * * * * * SAR18:19 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Navamsa Chart ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU * * 7 * * * * * * * * * 10 * AS * 6 * * * * RA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8 * * * ** MER * * ** * 11 * 5 * ** * * ** * * * 2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12* MO * 4 * * * * MAR * * * * * 1 * KE * 3 * * * * JU * * VE * * * * * * SAR * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* System's Approach Analysis ========================== Sun: Good Placement, Conjunct functional malefic(s): Aspected by functional benefic(s): Sa 67%, Moon: Good Placement, in oldage 22%, Bright, Mars: Good Placement, weak dispositor, Mercury: Good Placement, Combust, Debilated in Rashi, Conjunct functional benefic(s): Su 12%, Jupiter: Good Placement, in infancy 88%, weak dispositor, Conjunct house 3 MEP 42% Venus: Good Placement, in oldage 63%, weak dispositor, Saturn: Bad Placement, weak dispositor, Aspected by functional benefic(s): Su 67%, Rahu: Afflicts houses 1 5 9 MEP 38% Ketu: Afflicts houses 7 11 3 MEP 38% Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis ======================== Ju/Ke Apr 3,1952 Ju/Ve Oct 5,1952 Ju/Su Jun 6,1955 Ju/Mo Mar 24,1956 Ju/Ma Jul 24,1957 Ju/Ra Jun 30,1958 Sa/Sa Nov 23,1960 Sa/Me Nov 26,1963 Sa/Ke Aug 6,1966 Sa/Ve Sep 14,1967 Sa/Su Nov 14,1970 Sa/Mo Oct 27,1971 Sa/Ma May 27,1973 Sa/Ra Jul 6,1974 Sa/Ju May 12,1977 Me/Me Nov 23,1979 Me/Ke Apr 21,1982 Me/Ve Apr 18,1983 Me/Su Feb 16,1986 Me/Mo Dec 24,1986 Me/Ma May 24,1988 Me/Ra May 21,1989 Me/Ju Dec 9,1991 Me/Sa Mar 16,1994 Ke/Ke Nov 23,1996 Ke/Ve Apr 21,1997 Ke/Su Jun 21,1998 Ke/Mo Oct 27,1998 Ke/Ma May 28,1999 Ke/Ra Oct 24,1999 Ke/Ju Nov 11,2000 Ke/Sa Oct 17,2001 Ke/Me Nov 26,2002 Ve/Ve Nov 23,2003 Ve/Su Mar 25,2007 Ve/Mo Mar 24,2008 Ve/Ma Nov 23,2009 Ve/Ra Jan 23,2011 Ve/Ju Jan 23,2014 Ve/Sa Sep 23,2016 Ve/Me Nov 23,2019 Ve/Ke Sep 23,2022 Su/Su Nov 23,2023 Su/Mo Mar 12,2024 Su/Ma Sep 11,2024 Su/Ra Jan 16,2025 Su/Ju Dec 11,2025 Su/Sa Sep 29,2026 Su/Me Sep 11,2027 Su/Ke Jul 18,2028 Su/Ve Nov 23,2028 Mo/Mo Nov 23,2029 Mo/Ma Sep 23,2030 Mo/Ra Apr 24,2031 Mo/Ju Oct 23,2032 Mo/Sa Feb 22,2034 Mo/Me Sep 24,2035 Mo/Ke Feb 22,2037 Mo/Ve Sep 23,2037 Mo/Su May 25,2039 Ma/Ma Nov 23,2039 Ma/Ra Apr 21,2040 Ma/Ju May 9,2041 Ma/Sa Apr 15,2042 Ma/Me May 25,2043 Ma/Ke May 21,2044 Ma/Ve Oct 17,2044 Ma/Su Dec 17,2045 Ma/Mo Apr 24,2046 Ra/Ra Nov 23,2046 Ra/Ju Aug 5,2049 Ra/Sa Dec 30,2051 Ra/Me Nov 5,2054 Ra/Ke May 24,2057 Ra/Ve Jun 12,2058 Ra/Su Jun 12,2061 Ra/Mo May 6,2062 Ra/Ma Nov 5,2063 ======== ---------- --------------------- 21st century air travel http://www.britishairways.com ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:55 +0100 "Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS [vedic astrology] The Power of Jyotish (Naryana Dasa) Dear Visti, Hare Rama Krsna! Nice example. I'll give here another example of the Power of Jyotish. Due to the recent discussion on Srila Prabhupada's lagna I learnt about Kalachakra dasha and checked my own chart. I had rectified my time with longevity calculation (3 pairs) and on looking at Kalachakra dasha I found that Pisces mahadasha started on July 26, 1999 while Pisces has my UL. Just a couple of days before that, my (now wedded) wife had arrived at the temple where I live, without knowing anything about me at the time, and right on that day my temple authority spoke to me about her and things started to be planned for our marriage. Your servant, Dhira Krsna dasa ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:30:10 +0100 "Babyscoop" <babyscoop Subject: Hello, I'm a new member on your list and it has been very helpful to me. Let me give you a short introduction of myself. I'm a western professional astrologer and I'm studying jyotish since about 1 year. The reason for this was that I find western astrology very good for psychological insight but not good enough for predictions. Or, lets put it in a better way, for factual statements. I am now in a state that I realize that I keep reading and studying to avoid to 'just get started'. So, that's what I did the last couple of days, and I abused a friend for this. I hope you will allow me to ask some questions. The persons data are: female, 9-september-1941, Amsterdam/Holland 4E54, 52N22, 22:15 hrs. Lagna: 7.48 Gemini 1. I don't know how to judge Jupiter. sometimes the computerprogram (Goravani) can be of help. (to confirm my own 'thinking'), but here it states 1.33 at Shad Bala and 43 at Vimshopak, and I'm lost here. So interpretation on Jupiter is very hard. 2. According to the program Venus should be weak and I don't understand why and how. The person does have enemies, but her relationship with her children is just fine (where this beginner should expect them to be troublesome). Again, I'm lost. 3. In 1995 my friend moved from Holland to New Zealand. Her question to me is: when will I be back (and she is hoping for the answer: "soon"). somehow I think (for whatever my thoughts are worth) that she will not be back until the Mercury Dasha starts. And the return might be because of serious problems on account of her husband (Saturn-Jupiter). I hope I have not too many questions for you and look forward to some light. Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Sanny Fortuin - Amsterdam __________________ Churchilllaan 282-284 NL-1078 GB Amsterdam Tel. +31 20-6761234 / 6710659 Fax +31 20-6768776 __________________ Churchilllaan 282-284 NL-1078 GB Amsterdam Tel. +31 20-6761234 / 6710659 Fax +31 20-6768776 [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:14:02 +0100 "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen Sv: Om Krishna Guru Shad or Bhava Bala's aren't as easy as they may seem to use. I use Shad Bala to determine the planet in a Yoga that will give a certain event in a Dasa system. Do't play around with them. Vimshopak also isn't a commoon used strength, wait till you've learnt how to interpretate things without the use of these.. You state that her Lagna is 7:48 Gem. at 22:15 hrs. is this using 0 gmt timezone? Please post birthtime with with timezone used. Best wishes, Visti. - Babyscoop Vedic Astrology Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:30 PM [Vedic Astrology] Hello, I'm a new member on your list and it has been very helpful to me. Let me give you a short introduction of myself. I'm a western professional astrologer and I'm studying jyotish since about 1 year. The reason for this was that I find western astrology very good for psychological insight but not good enough for predictions. Or, lets put it in a better way, for factual statements. I am now in a state that I realize that I keep reading and studying to avoid to 'just get started'. So, that's what I did the last couple of days, and I abused a friend for this. I hope you will allow me to ask some questions. The persons data are: female, 9-september-1941, Amsterdam/Holland 4E54, 52N22, 22:15 hrs. Lagna: 7.48 Gemini 1. I don't know how to judge Jupiter. sometimes the computerprogram (Goravani) can be of help. (to confirm my own 'thinking'), but here it states 1.33 at Shad Bala and 43 at Vimshopak, and I'm lost here. So interpretation on Jupiter is very hard. 2. According to the program Venus should be weak and I don't understand why and how. The person does have enemies, but her relationship with her children is just fine (where this beginner should expect them to be troublesome). Again, I'm lost. 3. In 1995 my friend moved from Holland to New Zealand. Her question to me is: when will I be back (and she is hoping for the answer: "soon"). somehow I think (for whatever my thoughts are worth) that she will not be back until the Mercury Dasha starts. And the return might be because of serious problems on account of her husband (Saturn-Jupiter). I hope I have not too many questions for you and look forward to some light. Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Sanny Fortuin - Amsterdam __________________ Churchilllaan 282-284 NL-1078 GB Amsterdam Tel. +31 20-6761234 / 6710659 Fax +31 20-6768776 __________________ Churchilllaan 282-284 NL-1078 GB Amsterdam Tel. +31 20-6761234 / 6710659 Fax +31 20-6768776 eGroups Sponsor Join Vedic Astrology Chat Room Free! http://www.sonipat.com Vedic Astrology- OM TAT SAT [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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