Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi Kanupriya, You are misunderstanding,What I am saying is always have basics in your mind,but don't stick to it.do you see today anyone flying,but what we see is aeroplanes,but not as individual.so be practical about it. You have study materials of Maharishi,Study how they created those rules.Because that will help you understanding things more clearly than just blindly following a rules.There should be valid reasoning for a question. So I meant was for example,Mars in 4th house of Aquarian sign,So don't blindly go by that.See effect of other planets on that and there effects,which are not given straight forward in old scriptures,you need to develop those on your experience and analysis capability. Astrology is a science of Analysis,Intuition and Experience.Not a rule based.Know basics and apply on theorem.You may fail once,try to to make changes and create something new.today or tommorrow you will definately succeed. Dictums fo old are right, I never said they are wrong.I said understand it and don't stick to it,as time has changed,people has changed,World has changed.however basic remains same,still mother give births to a child,but pavarish method has changed and we need to change acording to that. --- Kanupriya Singh <kanupriya9 wrote: > Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya > Dear Shripal, > You wrote: > > 1)I don't go just by sutras in a past.As they are > > return only on what they experience > We are all here to learn and people can > go wrong but then do not declare your prediction but > write it as this is my opinion or trial as a > learner.You cannot say that the use of the classics > will not apply to the world today.The Maharishis had > the ability to look beyond, thats the reason they > were able to talk about Kaali Yuga.They also > mentioned that our own egos blurr our minds and > bring about the inability to follow our gurus.You > may have your own tools as everyone does but there > must be some basis for it.I cannot one fine day > begin saying Rahu is a demon, Have I seen it? I can > say it because I have the scirptures supporting > it.The Katha in the Puranas that explains the body > of an Asura being cut into two.Does this mean people > in Rahu Dasa become Demons themselves? No, but what > the scriptures talk about must be applied > intellegently and we must understand the essence > behind those kathas and dictums.Everyone had given > thier reasoning for thier analysis based on well > defined rules and all astrologers must follow the > rules.One can choose tools more favourable to > oneself out of the various tools given by the > maharishes but if you say I do not follow the > scriptures and I have my own rules then that is not > acceptable.Please do not consider my email as some > personal accusation but this is more so that you can > see how we need to learn and have a deeper > understanding of the Sutras, Classics etc. > > Best Regards, > Kanupriya. > > - > Shripal <d_shripal > > [Om Krishna Guru] 16# Re: CRIMINAL at an > Early Age -->Nitin and All > Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:38:11 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > Hi Nitin, > > > > 1)I don't go just by sutras in a past.As they are > > return only on what they experience,for example > Saturn > > in 1st house, and what they have return holds > truth if > > Saturn is in first house of that sign and not > > influenced by any other planet.Else total > prediction > > will change. > > > > 2)Mars 4th aspect to Jupiter(100%) and Tension > effect > > to jupiter(Square 75%).So person has lots of > > potentiality to take risk,have strength.Jupiter is > > weaker than Mars,So 7th house is getting malefic > > effect of Jupiter influenced by Mars + Mars > himself. > > > > 3)Dispositor of 7th house and Karaka is Venus,with > > sun,getting afflicted.Exalted Venus,shows too much > > sexual drive and Love for humanity and God,But Sun > > makes a person mean,ego and commanding in deed if > not > > considered by others.In 5th house both planets > shows > > lots of Romance.It is getting charged,Same way a 7 > th > > house too. > > > > 4)So when these houses gets charged up,so if there > > would had been trine aspect,than control is > better.But > > squaring up of jupiter and Mars and Mras aspect to > > Jupiter, is too much for a kid to handle at > certain > > stage of life.He becomes vindictive in deeds. > > > > 5)These incident must have taken place in > Venus-Mars > > Dasa period, As Venus and Mars are 2-12 in chart, > So > > Kendra planets is making him to go for it , > against > > his will, for moment he loses a self control and > does > > what ever he feels. > > > > 6)If Mars + venus would had been trine or conjuct > > here, than same thing would have happened, But > never > > been called as rape,Both party would have agreed > for a > > sex. > > > > I dont see to many charts.Some times it is better > to > > be simple, When things are very clear.Reason for > my > > such a quotes is my own analysis for different > chart,I > > have read lots of ancient books,But I don't hard > quote > > it as,they are proper for that particular > statement, > > But looking to today's world,changes etc, You > remember > > those things at a back of your mind and be little > > intuitive or develop that and develop your own > methog > > on analysis. > > > > As my job profile in company is also very mcuh > like > > Business Analyst. > > > > Every Analyst have there own methods and > conclusions. > > They have materila,they study wuth diferent angles > and > > come out with there conclusion on practicality and > > studies that they have done for years.They never > copy > > from somewhere and never scared of going > wrong.they > > always consider history,But never copy that. > > > > --- Nitin <sjvc wrote: > > > > > > > > ||| Vyam VyaasadeVaaya Namah ||| > > > > > > Dear Shripal and List Members, Namaskaar. > Shripal – Pranaams for > > > your Spiritual Guru, and a > > > few thoughts / questions below… > > > > > > Whilst some of us are looking for some more > > > information regarding the accuracy of birth > time, I > > > want to share a few technical applications, > based on > > > my understanding. As per lagna chart,Mars in 4th > and aspecting > > > 7th house. while as per Moon chart Mars is in > 8th > > > house.whenever Mars influences 5th,7th and 8th > house from more > > > perspective,those individual has a great sexual > > > drive,need,passionate and can kill and even die > for passion.but > > > others factors and Mahadas have to be considered > too.they play a > > > important role when to happen,because at that > time these things > > > ara at the peak. > > > [NK] > > > > > > Could you please provide a source for your > > > inference? For my learning, what is the > reasoning > > > behind such? Here is something from Jaataka > Parijata: > > > ================================== > > > > > > Jataka Parijata chapter 17 Kalachakra Dasa > > > > > > 34-36. Jupiter in the 3rd house, Mars in the > 7th, > > > Saturn in the natal > > > star, Rahu in the 9th house, the Moon in the > 8th, > > > the Sun in the > > > 12th, Mercury in the 7th and Venus in an > inimical > > > house are each of > > > them (Maranastthana) or death occasioners. > > > > > > [i also consider Mercury in the 4th in MKS.] > > > ================================== > > > > > > If you are looking at the Moon chart, how about > the > > > Bhaava Chalit? Would that alter anything? > Encouraging a broader > > > examination of the charts, > > > Dashas as you indicated, should also be gauged > > > into... Plus Venus is in pisces,conjuct with > sun,so > > these > > > will boost her sexual needs more. [NK] > > > Would The Mahadasha of Venus, possibly be akin > to > > > that of the Sun, similar to perhaps the > Mahadasha of > > > Mercury akin to Ketu, in your chart…? > > > > > > ===================== > > > > > > BPHS (English) Translation: > > > Chapter 49 – Result of Dashas > > > 7-11. During the Dasha of Sūrya there is > > > acquisition of wealth, great felicity and > honours > > > from the Government, if at the time of birth > > > Sūrya is in his own Rashi, in his > exaltation > > > Rashi, in a Kendr, in Labh, be associated with > the > > > Lord of Dharm, or the Lord of Karm and strong in > his > > > Varg. The native will be blessed with a son > > > (children), if Sūrya is with the Lord of > Putr. > > > The native will acquire elephants and other > kinds of > > > wealth, if Sūrya is associated with the > Lord of > > > Dhan. The native will enjoy comforts of > conveyances, > > > if Sūrya is associated with the Lord of > Bandhu. > > > He attains a high position, like that of Army > Chief, > > > by the beneficence of the king and enjoys all > kinds > > > of happiness. Thus during the Dasha of a strong > (and > > > favourable) Sūrya there are acquisitions of > > > clothes, agricultural products, wealth, honours, > > > conveyances etc. > > > 12-15. During the Dasha of Sūrya there will > be > > > anxieties, loss of wealth, punishment from > > > Government, defamation, opposition by kinsmen, > > > distress to father, (in)auspicious happenings at > > > home, distress to paternal and maternal uncles > etc., > > > anxiety and inimical relations with other people > for > > > no reason whatsoever, should Sūrya be in > his > > > Rashi of debilitation, be weak in Ari, Randhr, > or > > > Vyaya, or be associated with malefic Grahas, or > with > > > the Lord of Ari, Randhr, or Vyaya. There will be > > > some favourable effects at times, if in the > above > > > situations Sūrya receives a Drishti from > > > benefic Grahas. The effects will always be > > > unfavourable, when malefic Grahas give a Drishti > to > > > Sūrya. > > > ===================== > > > > > > > > > To make is > > worst Rahu in Libra, and squared > up by Saturn.So > > > > > > > if > > you will try to man these person angry, > than > > > there > is > > very much a chance of criminal > activity. > > > > > > [NK] > > > For my learning, what is the reasoning for this, > > > please? >>A protector, > > that is Jupiter is > weak in chart.In > > > fact it is > also > > one more reason for such a > act.Mars > > > squaring > > Jupiter.These person is not scared > of taking a > > > > > risk,even in public or some might know it. [NK] > > > For my learning, what is the reasoning for this, > > > please? Are you considering that people having > Mars in > > > Quadrants to Jupiter are bold, and perhaps > violating > > > others physically? There is also an exchange > between Jupiter and Venus. > > > Would that alter anything? I do see afflictions > to Jupiter, but > > > not because of > > > a “square,” but rather – Rahsi > Drishti by some > > > planets. I can understand how people having Mars > in the 4th > > > are protective about their alliances. The native > is > > > 27 and will be turning 28 this year. > ================= > > > Here are the Natural years of planets, extracted > > > from the "Crux of Vedic Astrology", by Sanjay > > > Rath(Sagar Publications). > > > > > > Years of affecting fortune > > > > > > Graha Number Primary Secondary > > > Su 1 21,22 48,70 > > > Mo 2 23,24 5,49 > > > Ma 9 27,28 10,39 > > > Me 5 31,32 20,54 > > > Ju 3 30,34 24,56 > > > Ve 6 25,26 6,52 > > > Sa 8 35,36 39,82 > > > Ra 4 41,42 > > > Ke 7 45,46 > > > =================== > > > > > > Rahu in the 2nd from the AL acts as a resource > to > > > the Arudha. It is Jupiter’s transit to the > AL (if chart is > > > accurate) that reveals that the image of this > person > > > remains tarnished in alliances, and revealed > more so > > > during this time... [2 AL’s possible.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are also looking at the Vargottam planets > in > > > the Navamsa, what are the planets having Rashi > > > Drishti to (retrograde) Venus? This chart does > need some > > > rectification (PranaPada > > > in Navamsa reveals more). Sanjay Prabhakaran did > write something insightful > > > regarding the position of the Karakamsa -- Rahu > in > > > the 6th of Libra in this chart. Swee has also > touched upon the > > > Somnath Drekkana to > > > indicate perhaps one could gauge more on the > control > > > of sexual urges / behavior in a person. May the > Gurus continue to > > > guide us. Best wishes and warm regards, > > > Nitin. > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not > into my ear you > > whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips > you kissed, but my > > soul." > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said > > that the human stomach should not become a > graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > -- > _____________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow > Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC\ =lycos10 > > ===== "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul." Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.