16# CRIMINAL at an Early Age -->Nitin and All

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Hi Nitin,

 

1)I don't go just by sutras in a past.As they are

return only on what they experience,for example Saturn

in 1st house, and what they have return holds truth if

Saturn is in first house of that sign and not

influenced by any other planet.Else total prediction

will change.

 

2)Mars 4th aspect to Jupiter(100%) and Tension effect

to jupiter(Square 75%).So person has lots of

potentiality to take risk,have strength.Jupiter is

weaker than Mars,So 7th house is getting malefic

effect of Jupiter influenced by Mars + Mars himself.

 

3)Dispositor of 7th house and Karaka is Venus,with

sun,getting afflicted.Exalted Venus,shows too much

sexual drive and Love for humanity and God,But Sun

makes a person mean,ego and commanding in deed if not

considered by others.In 5th house both planets shows

lots of Romance.It is getting charged,Same way a 7 th

house too.

 

4)So when these houses gets charged up,so if there

would had been trine aspect,than control is better.But

squaring up of jupiter and Mars and Mras aspect to

Jupiter, is too much for a kid to handle at certain

stage of life.He becomes vindictive in deeds.

 

5)These incident must have taken place in Venus-Mars

Dasa period, As Venus and Mars are 2-12 in chart, So

Kendra planets is making him to go for it , against

his will, for moment he loses a self control and does

what ever he feels.

 

6)If Mars + venus would had been trine or conjuct

here, than same thing would have happened, But never

been called as rape,Both party would have agreed for a

sex.

 

I dont see to many charts.Some times it is better to

be simple, When things are very clear.Reason for my

such a quotes is my own analysis for different chart,I

have read lots of ancient books,But I don't hard quote

it as,they are proper for that particular statement,

But looking to today's world,changes etc, You remember

those things at a back of your mind and be little

intuitive or develop that and develop your own methog

on analysis.

 

As my job profile in company is also very mcuh like

Business Analyst.

 

Every Analyst have there own methods and conclusions.

They have materila,they study wuth diferent angles and

come out with there conclusion on practicality and

studies that they have done for years.They never copy

from somewhere and never scared of going wrong.they

always consider history,But never copy that.

 

--- Nitin <sjvc wrote:

 

>

> ||| Vyam VyaasadeVaaya Namah |||

>

> Dear Shripal and List Members, Namaskaar.

>

> Shripal – Pranaams for your Spiritual Guru, and a

> few thoughts / questions below…

>

> Whilst some of us are looking for some more

> information regarding the accuracy of birth time, I

> want to share a few technical applications, based on

> my understanding.

>

>

> As per lagna chart,Mars in 4th and aspecting 7th

> house.

> while as per Moon chart Mars is in 8th

> house.whenever

> Mars influences 5th,7th and 8th house from more

> perspective,those individual has a great sexual

> drive,need,passionate and can kill and even die for

> passion.but others factors and Mahadas have to be

> considered too.they play a important role when to

> happen,because at that time these things ara at the

> peak.

> [NK]

>

> Could you please provide a source for your

> inference? For my learning, what is the reasoning

> behind such?

>

> Here is something from Jaataka Parijata:

> ==================================

>

> Jataka Parijata chapter 17 Kalachakra Dasa

>

> 34-36. Jupiter in the 3rd house, Mars in the 7th,

> Saturn in the natal

> star, Rahu in the 9th house, the Moon in the 8th,

> the Sun in the

> 12th, Mercury in the 7th and Venus in an inimical

> house are each of

> them (Maranastthana) or death occasioners.

>

> [i also consider Mercury in the 4th in MKS.]

> ==================================

>

> If you are looking at the Moon chart, how about the

> Bhaava Chalit? Would that alter anything?

>

> Encouraging a broader examination of the charts,

> Dashas as you indicated, should also be gauged

> into...

>

>

> Plus Venus is in pisces,conjuct with sun,so

> > > these will boost her sexual needs more.

> [NK]

> Would The Mahadasha of Venus, possibly be akin to

> that of the Sun, similar to perhaps the Mahadasha of

> Mercury akin to Ketu, in your chart…?

>

> =====================

>

> BPHS (English) Translation:

> Chapter 49 – Result of Dashas

> 7-11. During the Dasha of Sūrya there is

> acquisition of wealth, great felicity and honours

> from the Government, if at the time of birth

> Sūrya is in his own Rashi, in his exaltation

> Rashi, in a Kendr, in Labh, be associated with the

> Lord of Dharm, or the Lord of Karm and strong in his

> Varg. The native will be blessed with a son

> (children), if Sūrya is with the Lord of Putr.

> The native will acquire elephants and other kinds of

> wealth, if Sūrya is associated with the Lord of

> Dhan. The native will enjoy comforts of conveyances,

> if Sūrya is associated with the Lord of Bandhu.

> He attains a high position, like that of Army Chief,

> by the beneficence of the king and enjoys all kinds

> of happiness. Thus during the Dasha of a strong (and

> favourable) Sūrya there are acquisitions of

> clothes, agricultural products, wealth, honours,

> conveyances etc.

> 12-15. During the Dasha of Sūrya there will be

> anxieties, loss of wealth, punishment from

> Government, defamation, opposition by kinsmen,

> distress to father, (in)auspicious happenings at

> home, distress to paternal and maternal uncles etc.,

> anxiety and inimical relations with other people for

> no reason whatsoever, should Sūrya be in his

> Rashi of debilitation, be weak in Ari, Randhr, or

> Vyaya, or be associated with malefic Grahas, or with

> the Lord of Ari, Randhr, or Vyaya. There will be

> some favourable effects at times, if in the above

> situations Sūrya receives a Drishti from

> benefic Grahas. The effects will always be

> unfavourable, when malefic Grahas give a Drishti to

> Sūrya.

> =====================

>

>

> To make is

> > > worst Rahu in Libra, and squared up by Saturn.So

>

> > if

> > > you will try to man these person angry, than

> there

> > is

> > > very much a chance of criminal activity.

>

> [NK]

> For my learning, what is the reasoning for this,

> please?

>

>

>

> >>A protector,

> > > that is Jupiter is weak in chart.In fact it is

> > also

> > > one more reason for such a act.Mars squaring

> > > Jupiter.These person is not scared of taking a

> > > risk,even in public or some might know it.

>

> [NK]

> For my learning, what is the reasoning for this,

> please?

>

> Are you considering that people having Mars in

> Quadrants to Jupiter are bold, and perhaps violating

> others physically?

>

> There is also an exchange between Jupiter and Venus.

> Would that alter anything?

>

> I do see afflictions to Jupiter, but not because of

> a “square,” but rather – Rahsi Drishti by some

> planets.

>

>

>

> I can understand how people having Mars in the 4th

> are protective about their alliances. The native is

> 27 and will be turning 28 this year.

>

> =================

> Here are the Natural years of planets, extracted

> from the "Crux of Vedic Astrology", by Sanjay

> Rath(Sagar Publications).

>

> Years of affecting fortune

>

> Graha Number Primary Secondary

> Su 1 21,22 48,70

> Mo 2 23,24 5,49

> Ma 9 27,28 10,39

> Me 5 31,32 20,54

> Ju 3 30,34 24,56

> Ve 6 25,26 6,52

> Sa 8 35,36 39,82

> Ra 4 41,42

> Ke 7 45,46

> ===================

>

> Rahu in the 2nd from the AL acts as a resource to

> the Arudha.

>

> It is Jupiter’s transit to the AL (if chart is

> accurate) that reveals that the image of this person

> remains tarnished in alliances, and revealed more so

> during this time...

> [2 AL’s possible.]

>

>

>

>

> If you are also looking at the Vargottam planets in

> the Navamsa, what are the planets having Rashi

> Drishti to (retrograde) Venus?

>

> This chart does need some rectification (PranaPada

> in Navamsa reveals more).

>

> Sanjay Prabhakaran did write something insightful

> regarding the position of the Karakamsa -- Rahu in

> the 6th of Libra in this chart.

>

> Swee has also touched upon the Somnath Drekkana to

> indicate perhaps one could gauge more on the control

> of sexual urges / behavior in a person.

>

> May the Gurus continue to guide us.

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Nitin.

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

>

 

 

=====

"Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you whispered, but

into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul."

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya

Dear Shripal,

You wrote:

> 1)I don't go just by sutras in a past.As they are

> return only on what they experience

We are all here to learn and people can go wrong but then do not

declare your prediction but write it as this is my opinion or trial as a

learner.You cannot say that the use of the classics will not apply to the world

today.The Maharishis had the ability to look beyond, thats the reason they were

able to talk about Kaali Yuga.They also mentioned that our own egos blurr our

minds and bring about the inability to follow our gurus.You may have your own

tools as everyone does but there must be some basis for it.I cannot one fine day

begin saying Rahu is a demon, Have I seen it? I can say it because I have the

scirptures supporting it.The Katha in the Puranas that explains the body of an

Asura being cut into two.Does this mean people in Rahu Dasa become Demons

themselves? No, but what the scriptures talk about must be applied intellegently

and we must understand the essence behind those kathas and dictums.Everyone had

given thier reasoning for thier analysis based on well defined rules and all

astrologers must follow the rules.One can choose tools more favourable to

oneself out of the various tools given by the maharishes but if you say I do not

follow the scriptures and I have my own rules then that is not acceptable.Please

do not consider my email as some personal accusation but this is more so that

you can see how we need to learn and have a deeper understanding of the Sutras,

Classics etc.

 

Best Regards,

Kanupriya.

 

-

Shripal <d_shripal

 

[Om Krishna Guru] 16# Re: CRIMINAL at an Early Age -->Nitin and All

Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:38:11 -0800 (PST)

 

>

>

> Hi Nitin,

>

> 1)I don't go just by sutras in a past.As they are

> return only on what they experience,for example Saturn

> in 1st house, and what they have return holds truth if

> Saturn is in first house of that sign and not

> influenced by any other planet.Else total prediction

> will change.

>

> 2)Mars 4th aspect to Jupiter(100%) and Tension effect

> to jupiter(Square 75%).So person has lots of

> potentiality to take risk,have strength.Jupiter is

> weaker than Mars,So 7th house is getting malefic

> effect of Jupiter influenced by Mars + Mars himself.

>

> 3)Dispositor of 7th house and Karaka is Venus,with

> sun,getting afflicted.Exalted Venus,shows too much

> sexual drive and Love for humanity and God,But Sun

> makes a person mean,ego and commanding in deed if not

> considered by others.In 5th house both planets shows

> lots of Romance.It is getting charged,Same way a 7 th

> house too.

>

> 4)So when these houses gets charged up,so if there

> would had been trine aspect,than control is better.But

> squaring up of jupiter and Mars and Mras aspect to

> Jupiter, is too much for a kid to handle at certain

> stage of life.He becomes vindictive in deeds.

>

> 5)These incident must have taken place in Venus-Mars

> Dasa period, As Venus and Mars are 2-12 in chart, So

> Kendra planets is making him to go for it , against

> his will, for moment he loses a self control and does

> what ever he feels.

>

> 6)If Mars + venus would had been trine or conjuct

> here, than same thing would have happened, But never

> been called as rape,Both party would have agreed for a

> sex.

>

> I dont see to many charts.Some times it is better to

> be simple, When things are very clear.Reason for my

> such a quotes is my own analysis for different chart,I

> have read lots of ancient books,But I don't hard quote

> it as,they are proper for that particular statement,

> But looking to today's world,changes etc, You remember

> those things at a back of your mind and be little

> intuitive or develop that and develop your own methog

> on analysis.

>

> As my job profile in company is also very mcuh like

> Business Analyst.

>

> Every Analyst have there own methods and conclusions.

> They have materila,they study wuth diferent angles and

> come out with there conclusion on practicality and

> studies that they have done for years.They never copy

> from somewhere and never scared of going wrong.they

> always consider history,But never copy that.

>

> --- Nitin <sjvc wrote:

>

> >

> > ||| Vyam VyaasadeVaaya Namah |||

> >

> > Dear Shripal and List Members, Namaskaar. Shripal – Pranaams for

> > your Spiritual Guru, and a

> > few thoughts / questions below…

> >

> > Whilst some of us are looking for some more

> > information regarding the accuracy of birth time, I

> > want to share a few technical applications, based on

> > my understanding. As per lagna chart,Mars in 4th and aspecting

> > 7th house. while as per Moon chart Mars is in 8th

> > house.whenever Mars influences 5th,7th and 8th house from more

> > perspective,those individual has a great sexual

> > drive,need,passionate and can kill and even die for passion.but

> > others factors and Mahadas have to be considered too.they play a

> > important role when to happen,because at that time these things

> > ara at the peak.

> > [NK]

> >

> > Could you please provide a source for your

> > inference? For my learning, what is the reasoning

> > behind such? Here is something from Jaataka Parijata:

> > ==================================

> >

> > Jataka Parijata chapter 17 Kalachakra Dasa

> >

> > 34-36. Jupiter in the 3rd house, Mars in the 7th,

> > Saturn in the natal

> > star, Rahu in the 9th house, the Moon in the 8th,

> > the Sun in the

> > 12th, Mercury in the 7th and Venus in an inimical

> > house are each of

> > them (Maranastthana) or death occasioners.

> >

> > [i also consider Mercury in the 4th in MKS.]

> > ==================================

> >

> > If you are looking at the Moon chart, how about the

> > Bhaava Chalit? Would that alter anything? Encouraging a broader

> > examination of the charts,

> > Dashas as you indicated, should also be gauged

> > into... Plus Venus is in pisces,conjuct with sun,so > > these

> > will boost her sexual needs more. [NK]

> > Would The Mahadasha of Venus, possibly be akin to

> > that of the Sun, similar to perhaps the Mahadasha of

> > Mercury akin to Ketu, in your chart…?

> >

> > =====================

> >

> > BPHS (English) Translation:

> > Chapter 49 – Result of Dashas

> > 7-11. During the Dasha of Sūrya there is

> > acquisition of wealth, great felicity and honours

> > from the Government, if at the time of birth

> > Sūrya is in his own Rashi, in his exaltation

> > Rashi, in a Kendr, in Labh, be associated with the

> > Lord of Dharm, or the Lord of Karm and strong in his

> > Varg. The native will be blessed with a son

> > (children), if Sūrya is with the Lord of Putr.

> > The native will acquire elephants and other kinds of

> > wealth, if Sūrya is associated with the Lord of

> > Dhan. The native will enjoy comforts of conveyances,

> > if Sūrya is associated with the Lord of Bandhu.

> > He attains a high position, like that of Army Chief,

> > by the beneficence of the king and enjoys all kinds

> > of happiness. Thus during the Dasha of a strong (and

> > favourable) Sūrya there are acquisitions of

> > clothes, agricultural products, wealth, honours,

> > conveyances etc.

> > 12-15. During the Dasha of Sūrya there will be

> > anxieties, loss of wealth, punishment from

> > Government, defamation, opposition by kinsmen,

> > distress to father, (in)auspicious happenings at

> > home, distress to paternal and maternal uncles etc.,

> > anxiety and inimical relations with other people for

> > no reason whatsoever, should Sūrya be in his

> > Rashi of debilitation, be weak in Ari, Randhr, or

> > Vyaya, or be associated with malefic Grahas, or with

> > the Lord of Ari, Randhr, or Vyaya. There will be

> > some favourable effects at times, if in the above

> > situations Sūrya receives a Drishti from

> > benefic Grahas. The effects will always be

> > unfavourable, when malefic Grahas give a Drishti to

> > Sūrya.

> > =====================

> >

> >

> > To make is > > worst Rahu in Libra, and squared up by Saturn.So

> >

> > > if > > you will try to man these person angry, than

> > there > is > > very much a chance of criminal activity.

> >

> > [NK]

> > For my learning, what is the reasoning for this,

> > please? >>A protector, > > that is Jupiter is weak in chart.In

> > fact it is > also > > one more reason for such a act.Mars

> > squaring > > Jupiter.These person is not scared of taking a > >

> > risk,even in public or some might know it. [NK]

> > For my learning, what is the reasoning for this,

> > please? Are you considering that people having Mars in

> > Quadrants to Jupiter are bold, and perhaps violating

> > others physically? There is also an exchange between Jupiter and Venus.

> > Would that alter anything? I do see afflictions to Jupiter, but

> > not because of

> > a “square,” but rather – Rahsi Drishti by some

> > planets. I can understand how people having Mars in the 4th

> > are protective about their alliances. The native is

> > 27 and will be turning 28 this year. =================

> > Here are the Natural years of planets, extracted

> > from the "Crux of Vedic Astrology", by Sanjay

> > Rath(Sagar Publications).

> >

> > Years of affecting fortune

> >

> > Graha Number Primary Secondary

> > Su 1 21,22 48,70

> > Mo 2 23,24 5,49

> > Ma 9 27,28 10,39

> > Me 5 31,32 20,54

> > Ju 3 30,34 24,56

> > Ve 6 25,26 6,52

> > Sa 8 35,36 39,82

> > Ra 4 41,42

> > Ke 7 45,46

> > ===================

> >

> > Rahu in the 2nd from the AL acts as a resource to

> > the Arudha. It is Jupiter’s transit to the AL (if chart is

> > accurate) that reveals that the image of this person

> > remains tarnished in alliances, and revealed more so

> > during this time... [2 AL’s possible.]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > If you are also looking at the Vargottam planets in

> > the Navamsa, what are the planets having Rashi

> > Drishti to (retrograde) Venus? This chart does need some

> > rectification (PranaPada

> > in Navamsa reveals more). Sanjay Prabhakaran did write something insightful

> > regarding the position of the Karakamsa -- Rahu in

> > the 6th of Libra in this chart. Swee has also touched upon the

> > Somnath Drekkana to

> > indicate perhaps one could gauge more on the control

> > of sexual urges / behavior in a person. May the Gurus continue to

> > guide us. Best wishes and warm regards,

> > Nitin.

> >

> > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> >

> >

>

>

> =====

> "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you

> whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my

> soul."

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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