#3A Rasi & Graha Drishti, Placement, Karaka & Bhava Lords

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Dear Nitin

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[NK 2]8th is the 2nd from the 7th – other people’s resources.

[T] Oh...Thanks

 

[T]Cp has exalted Mars (5th/12th lord) - Children will be resources (they

usually do)?

[NK 2]Matters of the home will come as a resource to feed or deplete your

image….

Satya is not Maya….

[T] Please elaborate the reason behind the statement - Satya is not Maya -

is it due to 12th in 2nd from AL or 5th in 2nd?

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[NK 2]12th from AL has 2 lords, the stronger of which I would take as

Mars…If you have a younger brother in the immediate family then perhaps he

is someone hard to appease, yet is still important to who or what you

represent in this world…

[T] True - having a younger brother - the only sibling - donot seem to be

that hard to appease but yes I'll get fame due to him but my reading is

based on - My Sun in 3rd - Vistiji says it means Fame (Sun) is in

3rd(Sibling) house. Whats your reason to say so?

Is it this - from AL, 3rd co-lord Rahu is in 2nd with Mars (karaka for

siblings). So sibling will help in sustenance....????

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[NK 2]Not everyone is married; Not everyone has a protective spouse. Lucky

you…?!

[T] Ha..ha...ha...I like that...

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[NK 2]

>From what I recall…Asura Guru Shukracharaya spent 20 years hanging from one

leg, upside down, on the branch of a tree, with a fire beneath him in

penance…… this act granted him a boon to revive the dead.

…indicating instant gratification, and keeping one away from a possibility

of an escape into another realm….

[T] WHat do you mean by 'keeping one away from a possibility of an escape

into another realm….'????

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[NK2]Whilst Deva Guru is more involved in the divinity process (which could

take longer, for a lot of us) and perhaps escaping a cycle of physical

birth…Each have their relevant and appropriate philosophy…. Try to

understand both….

[T] Can you prescribe any paper/doc to understand both the Deva - Jupiter &

Shukhracharya? Which Purana should I start with to have astrological

understanding of these super natural beings? Is there any version of

Puranas which have astrological explanations with it as comments? I heard

the story of Brishpati, Tara, Soma & Budh...nice one....but do not know

where to find these stories & what to read? If in Hindi - it will be

good...

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[NK2]Shukra is the most refined substance in the body….The one that can

distract, the harmonizer, the one through there is continuation of the

human race…

[T] Thanks for the direction...

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[NK 2]The houses are inanimate – i.e. reflecting an environment. The

planets therein reveal an interaction of forces…Read above, and try to

understand, again, the difference between a sign and a planet. Mars and

Rahu will come from the environment of Capricorn and influence the 10th

House, having Saturn, in the environment reflected of Taurus….

[T]Yes - house is inanimate (situations) & graha is animate (people). Now

we are dealing with 3 things - Rasi, Bhava(house) & graha. Rasi is Cp,

Bhava is 6th & grahas are Mars & Rahu. If for a minute I leave

lordship/karaka a graha has - how should I blend these 3 things & form an

opinion?

What does it mean - Mars & Rahu are in 6th & in the environment of Cp? What

condition they are posing for 10th? What if both are not together?

Cp is movable/rajsik/earthy/female/ruled by Sat - Jup is deb here & Mars is

exalted here.

6th house indicates - enemies, struggle, ailments, service, etc.

Rahu is like Sat so he is in good sign. Mars is inimical to Sat so he is

not well placed. By the way - how Mars is exalted here?

This house is 6th from Lagna & 2nd from AL.

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[NK2]Opposite to the 3rd, is the 9th of Dharma, irrespective of the Signs…

[T] Can I say that in every human being there is an initiative desire for

dharma - 3rd opposite 9th?

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[NK 2]…perhaps you’re happy with yourself… or when the Arudha rises….

…perhaps only 1 will rise – either the image of who you represent in this

world, or that which you seek….

What happens for example, when the AL / UL are in the same house…?

[T] If UL/AL in the same house - it may indicates that for the native - his

& his spouse's image does not have any differentiation - for him both are

one...am i correct?

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[NK 2]

Find me such a chart (or one close to it), and share the analysis on the

list. We will all take a look and comment.

[T] here is the chart - Ge Lagna - 7th has Ven/Mer but not Sun and they are

aspecting 10th having Sat.

(See attached file: Jaivrat.jhd)

 

regds

Tushankur

 

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Dear List Members, Namaskaar.

 

Tushankur – more thoughts below…

 

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[T]Cp has exalted Mars (5th/12th lord) - Children will be resources (they

usually do)?

[NK 2]Matters of the home will come as a resource to feed or deplete your

image….

Satya is not Maya….

[T] Please elaborate the reason behind the statement - Satya is not Maya -

is it due to 12th in 2nd from AL or 5th in 2nd?

 

[Nk 3]

Read as Lord of the 4th in the 2nd from the AL.

 

 

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[NK 2]12th from AL has 2 lords, the stronger of which I would take as

Mars…If you have a younger brother in the immediate family then perhaps he

is someone hard to appease, yet is still important to who or what you

represent in this world…

[T] True - having a younger brother - the only sibling - donot seem to be

that hard to appease but yes I'll get fame due to him but my reading is

based on - My Sun in 3rd - Vistiji says it means Fame (Sun) is in

3rd(Sibling) house. Whats your reason to say so?

 

[NK 3]

I did not say so.

:>

 

 

Is it this - from AL, 3rd co-lord Rahu is in 2nd with Mars (karaka for

siblings). So sibling will help in sustenance....????

 

[NK 3]

Think about it…

 

If your 3rd or 11th perhaps had anything to do with the 2nd from the AL, I would

consider it more…

 

 

 

 

[NK 2]

>From what I recall…Asura Guru Shukracharaya spent 20 years hanging from one

leg, upside down, on the branch of a tree, with a fire beneath him in

penance…… this act granted him a boon to revive the dead.

…indicating instant gratification, and keeping one away from a possibility

of an escape into another realm….

[T] WHat do you mean by 'keeping one away from a possibility of an escape

into another realm….'????

 

 

[NK 3]

What are your thoughts on the after-life…?

 

What if you never died…?

 

 

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[NK2]Whilst Deva Guru is more involved in the divinity process (which could

take longer, for a lot of us) and perhaps escaping a cycle of physical

birth…Each have their relevant and appropriate philosophy…. Try to

understand both….

[T] Can you prescribe any paper/doc to understand both the Deva - Jupiter &

Shukhracharya? Which Purana should I start with to have astrological

understanding of these super natural beings? Is there any version of

Puranas which have astrological explanations with it as comments? I heard

the story of Brishpati, Tara, Soma & Budh...nice one....but do not know

where to find these stories & what to read? If in Hindi - it will be

good...

 

[NK 3]

I’m not sure which Puraanas you could get it in –ask about or do an online

search.

 

 

 

[NK 2]The houses are inanimate – i.e. reflecting an environment. The

planets therein reveal an interaction of forces…Read above, and try to

understand, again, the difference between a sign and a planet. Mars and

Rahu will come from the environment of Capricorn and influence the 10th

House, having Saturn, in the environment reflected of Taurus….

[T]Yes - house is inanimate (situations) & graha is animate (people). Now

we are dealing with 3 things - Rasi, Bhava(house) & graha. Rasi is Cp,

Bhava is 6th & grahas are Mars & Rahu. If for a minute I leave

lordship/karaka a graha has - how should I blend these 3 things & form an

opinion?

 

[NK 3]

Think about it a bit longer… perhaps others can share their views as well…

 

 

What does it mean - Mars & Rahu are in 6th & in the environment of Cp? What

condition they are posing for 10th? What if both are not together?

Cp is movable/rajsik/earthy/female/ruled by Sat - Jup is deb here & Mars is

exalted here.

6th house indicates - enemies, struggle, ailments, service, etc.

Rahu is like Sat so he is in good sign. Mars is inimical to Sat so he is

not well placed. By the way - how Mars is exalted here?

This house is 6th from Lagna & 2nd from AL.

 

 

 

 

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[NK2]Opposite to the 3rd, is the 9th of Dharma, irrespective of the Signs…

[T] Can I say that in every human being there is an initiative desire for

dharma - 3rd opposite 9th?

 

[NK 3]

Sounds logical…

 

 

 

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[NK 2]…perhaps you’re happy with yourself… or when the Arudha rises….

…perhaps only 1 will rise – either the image of who you represent in this

world, or that which you seek….

What happens for example, when the AL / UL are in the same house…?

[T] If UL/AL in the same house - it may indicates that for the native - his

& his spouse's image does not have any differentiation - for him both are

one...am i correct?

 

[NK 3]

Only 1 will rise – either the AL or the UL. Both will not rise together.

 

On a more day to day life, one can find that this is one area (House) which

somehow gets neglected by the couple.

 

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[NK 2]

Find me such a chart (or one close to it), and share the analysis on the

list. We will all take a look and comment.

[T] here is the chart - Ge Lagna - 7th has Ven/Mer but not Sun and they are

aspecting 10th having Sat.

 

[NK 3]

Your interpretation….? Start a new thread, if you can.

 

(See attached file: Jaivrat.jhd)

 

regds

Tushankur

 

[Nk 3]

Best wishes,

Nitin.

 

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