Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Dear Suresh: Hare Rama Krishna, Surely one needs to have a strong Sun, Moon and 10th house he wants to lead and show others the path. A strong atmakaraka would add to the overall picture. Also subtle things like aspect would cause a lot of things and physical perception of Arudha would show more things. If we closely observe the different houses and planets we can classify them into 4 category of Yogas as explained in Gita. Once we differentiate the houses into different Yogas we can precisely define the path for an individual. However we need to first classify atmakaraka and once there is a positive sign from there of a native's true desire than we can see what path he needs to undertake. For example we would put, Kendras into Karma Yoga; Trines as Bhakti Yoga, (6,8,12) as Rajya (Tapaswi) Yoga and 2,3,11 as Gyana Yoga. We can have natural karaka for different yogas and the how they perform. Also we can classify planets and AK into different Yogas and see how they work out. This theory is still in infant stage in my mind(dont know if somebody has worked in detail on classifying the planets and yogas). We can work further and see how it evolves. Maybe i can work on and present a paper at SJC but i would need some concrete examples to justify the research. Contributions from other members are welcome. Hare Krisna Bharat On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:27:25 -0800 (PST), Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Namasthe > > I fully agree with the observations. I would also add > the 10th rasi, its Lord and the Navamsa. The Karma > (ones work , command etc ) also should be powerfull as > well as the Sun - Atmakaraka. Unless these two are > aslo powerfull, the yogas given by other planets may > be just a pipe dream. who is going to hear/obey/listen > to ones words unless his 10th house id powerfull. what > can one person gain if his atmakaraka is not powerfull > ? > > Finally Moon is the beeja sakthi for all other > planets. hence moon should be powerfull, expecially > regarding ocult part. > > A person should be bold and capable (not physicaly) to > handle the powers unknown. Just knowledge is not > enough. > > Hence 10th, Sun and Moon should be powerfull. > > Suresh Babu. > > > --- Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > I will share some of my understanding on the > > discussion of learning > > astrology and for that matter any learning which is > > initiated by the > > free will of a person. > > > > I usually look at houses 2,5,8 and 11 for free-will > > of an individual. > > Of course we need to have a strong lagna lord and > > lagna/paka lagna not > > afflicted by malefics for doing some contructive > > learning. If lagna is > > forming Dhimantah than the individual has the > > necessary intelligence > > to pursue his interests. > > > > Also 2,5,8 and 11 form free-will of an individual > > and hence if these > > houses are strong the individual will find time to > > pursue his > > interests. Now natural benefics Jupiter, Venus, Merc > > (Well-Placed) and > > Moon(Waxing) in these houses will put an individual > > onto the path of > > learning. The lords of above mentioned houses if > > natural benefics in > > exaltation / mool-trikona / swakestra will put the > > individual into > > that art. > > > > 2nd house specifically shows astrology, it also > > shows sixth sense of > > an individual and also speech, the person is > > satyavadi if benefics in > > such houses and whatever he says tends to turn true. > > We should look at > > what planets are there and how the lord is placed to > > confirm these. If > > malefics the person is a liar and if benefics person > > speaks truth, > > talks about god. Also the kind of astrology this > > person does is > > indicated, we have all heard of people who can > > predict using face > > reading or just hearing voice of an individual for > > example Yogi Karve, > > people with strong 2nd house doesnt necessarily has > > to learn astrology > > as we are learning, over a period of time with > > strong devotion to god > > they can tap information from astral world. > > > > 5th house is more formal education of astrology, > > presence of Jupiter, > > Merc or Venus does signify learning of astrology, > > also it signifies > > deep interest in Mantra Sastra. The presence of > > planets here show the > > mantra devata for example venus would show goddess > > laxmi. The person > > with strong 5th house will invariably learn > > astrology and mantra > > sastra and his special ability will be recommending > > remedies through > > mantra. > > > > 8th house deals with mysticism, it includes > > astrology, palmistry, > > black magic etc. A person with strong 8th house > > would invariably be > > involved with these things but we have to very sure > > of what kind of > > planets are involved and where they are placed cause > > we know the best > > of jyotish (if benefics involved) come from this and > > black magicians > > and evil spirits (malefics involved) too comes from > > this and hence we > > have to be very careful and look at other > > combinations in chart before > > concluding the abilities. > > > > 11th house shows ur desire, your association, and is > > also house of > > gain. This house in its own wont show if you are > > astrologer, however > > its association with 2,5 and 8 would reveal a few > > things also, it will > > show what kind of lineage you are following in your > > learnings. How > > much support you will receive from others in your > > learning process. > > Generally we say all planets in 11th house are good > > cause they will > > end up giving something to planet but we have to see > > at what expense. > > > > So a person with strong 2, 5, 8 and 11 will be get > > on the path of > > astrology if jupiter, mercury or venus is associated > > with all 4 of > > them. It signifies not only astrology but the > > individual will have > > knowledge of Gita, Sastras, Yoga and other spiritual > > knowledge. Such a > > person if he stays on the right path of God > > Consciousness will > > eventually be freed from the bondages of planets > > cause planets just > > indicate your karmic debts and once you have paid > > your karmic debts > > through different yogas as mentioned in Bhagwat > > Gita, you will be > > freed from the bondages of planets and you will be > > forever be in > > blissful state of god. > > > > This association with God can be seen from advanced > > divisional charts. > > The timing of when one reaches that blissful state > > can be predicted. > > But after that person as reached that state, no > > planetary dasha or > > transit can effect that individual cause he has > > transcended the > > physical plane guided by planets. He is in the > > astral and casual plane > > of existence which is not governed by planets but > > rather god himself. > > > > So i would conclude that an individual must utilise > > his free-will > > indicated by 2, 5, 8 and 11. Learning astrology can > > be a path to god > > if one is sincere with his efforts and he can see > > and judge what is > > the message a particular planet is giving and use > > his free-will to > > grow. > > > > I have digressed from the topic i initially wanted > > to write about, i > > wanted to write about what makes one learn astrology > > and which houses > > signify it. No doubt houses 2, 5, 8 and 11 do so. > > While writing about > > that i got a deeper meaning of these houses and how > > you can make your > > free-will work for you. I know its not a well-edited > > article but > > nevertheless the message is to work on free-will. > > > > Thanks for reading and i open for constructive > > discussions on > > free-will, i am not the authority on it but we can > > learn by sharing. > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:34:59 -0600, Satya S > > Kolachina > > <skolachi wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with the participation in my > > question, and I thank everyone > > > for sharing their opinions in this regard. > > > > > > Now I am summarizing the features that had > > supported my astrology learning > > > in this period, for everyone's benefit. > > > > > > (a) Mahadasha Lord is Kethu - conjunct with 8th > > Lord in both raasi chart and > > > navamsha chart (8th house signifies occult studies > > including palmistry and > > > astrology). > > > (b) Kethu is also aspected by the 5th Lord on 1-7 > > axis. > > > © Kethu has aspect of retrograde Jupiter (Sri KN > > Rao's literature supports > > > this theory). > > > (d) Anthardasha Lord is Venus - is posited in the > > 5th house of poorva punya. > > > > > > I started learning Astrology and Palmistry at the > > same time, during my > > > Kethu-Venus period. > > > > > > Interestingly I can share another progress in my > > life, during the same time > > > - I started learning Indian Classical Carnatic > > Music (Vocal) three years > > > === message truncated === > > > > Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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