Guest guest Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Hi, Thank you Pankajji for your valuable time. 1)What is "He is considered sanaki in > many respects which he should try to control with > his delibrate effort. " I didn't get this point. 2) It is gives blatant > boldness and rash ness to the native. He becomes > unnecessarily brave with over confiddence, high dose > of rahness and risk and small dose of proper > thought. you talking towards other people or in my thinking.If with other people than its wrong.I am polite and up to the point,with a hardcore basics,clear thoughts and proper approach.Because of such a way of thinking I can come to a proper conclusion. 3)the native firey nature which > provides him unusal frankness and rebellious nature > and to come into fight to prove his win. Too much > retrograde influence gives him uncompromising > thinking > process in wordly sense. He has own strategies and > mangerial viewpoints which are unique and contrary > to worldly acceptable viewpoint. people are scared > about his so forceful protagonism. your 3rd point condradict with 2nd point.you are saying "> unnecessarily brave with over confiddence," while afterwards "> provides him unusal frankness and rebellious nature > and to come into fight to prove his win" How come unnecesary has came into an act.And again afterwards about trading,arithmatic view point etc. 4)Once in an around 2003 I invested in stock and I won,got returns about 25%.However investment wasn't too high.but currently i am busy with my job,so not much time to explore that part. 5)As you said "Ketu sometime blurs it". I will agree ti that point.But only that person doesn't have knowledge or understands about what i am saying. 6)One more contradiction "sharp intellectual and totally different approach towards life".That is very true.I hear this all the time from my parents,Guru and friends. It contradict with your other statement "Mercury ( > intellect) and Moon( thought) both are afflicted and > too much stress may lead to mental stress and > disease." If this are afflicted,than those philosophical nature,intellectual,diff thinking ability etc,How those thing will come.In fact when Mercury dasa started this all thing should degrade,but that increased.SO may be you trying to say, because of too much thinking I am stressing myself too much.May be in that sense you are true.But that's what I am ,I like to be. I believe that every sec,every one of us thinking about something.It will never stop till you die.Mind is a flow of life,it will never stop like time.So it's about you where you are putting it into.Are you able to control and concentrate to a particular thing or it is working and flow take place because of outside world influence. Let me tell you one more truth that i firmly believe in.Who is Happy? million dollar question.I am,you are,I guess no one.But a person is in transit phase or in control of himself is more prone towards happiness,than the one who is influenced by some other people or there thoughts etc.No one is truth or no one can say what Iam saying is true?.Everyone is either lieing or telling true?So don't waste time in finding truth.Just be yourself what you are,Never try to pretend somebody or someone.Live your own way of Life?A time will come to you to tell you truth.Just ne truth to yourself. I guess now I have to go for a meeting,Will continue some other time.Bye.... --- pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj wrote: > Dear Shrripal, > You have Libra ascendent which rises in a star of > mars and mars in this chart is lord of 2nd and > seventh house. you are social, judicious and are > provoked very easily. Lord of ascendent is venus > which is in direct motion and placed in 7th house in > Venusian star and Martian sign. Dispositor of venus, > the Mars is retrograde and in the company of three > other retrograde planets. Mars and these planets > aspect fifth house where retorograde mercury and > ketu are placed. Six planets are retrograde. Too > much retrogrdation in the chart gives dangerous > viwpoint to the nativity. It is gives blatant > boldness and rash ness to the native. He becomes > unnecessarily brave with over confiddence, high dose > of rahness and risk and small dose of proper > thought. Martian influence over ascendent and > ascendent lord gives the native firey nature which > provides him unusal frankness and rebellious nature > and to come into fight to prove his win. Too much > retrograde influence gives him uncompromising > thinking > process in wordly sense. He has own strategies and > mangerial viewpoints which are unique and contrary > to worldly acceptable viewpoint. people are scared > about his so forceful protagonism. Martian and > venusian influence over ascendent gives the native > attractiveness toward female and the native is very > passionate and ladies do get attracted toward him. > Venus is debilitated in navamsa which gives danager > to be entangled in sexual activity at certain point > in life. Venus give him handsome look, fairly > attractive, artist in some form like poetry or > singing. Mercury is in aquarious sign and navamsa > with ketu. It gives him sharp intellect to > understand concepts but ketu sometimes blurs it. > Ketu and mercury makes him arithmatic lover nad he > may beome expert in mathematics and accountany or > trading. Fifth house is house relating to trading > and risky businesses. He should be risk aversion > otherwise he may loose his money like in lottaries > or sharemarket. Ketu in fifth house, being in a > triangle is good for bhakti and religious > thoughts.MErcury and ketu in aquarious in airy sign, > and aspects of four retrograde planets makes him > very philosophical and search for philosophocal > upsurge is very intense. He should avoid stress on > his mind becuse his mind may be in risk. Mercury ( > intellect) and Moon( thought) both are afflicted and > too much stress may lead to mental stress and > disease. Now mercury/ Ketu is on. So he should avoid > too much nervous stress. He is considered sanaki in > many respects which he should try to control with > his delibrate effort. > He has good scope for phiosophical and karmic > growth. He has good potential to grow spiritually > because his vimsamsa( D-20) is very strong if we > look and this divisional chart. > So let us but you tell us about yourself. > Yours friend, > Pankaj Sharma > > Shripal <d_shripal wrote: > Hi, > > I will give you a reply,Let other prediction's come. > > Please specify everything as point wise,it is easy > to > read and otherstand and Reply. > > --- Soumit Guha <java_sgt wrote: > > > Hi Sripal,/(mr handsome/charmer) > > about your "2)In 5th house Mercury and Ketu are > > together" > > lets by a lottery ticket. Send me a dollar, and I > > will transact on your behalf for 50% of the > proceeds > > I sent you a horoscope that may seem extremely > basic > > for an astrologer/student of your calibre > > Regards > > Soumit > > > > Shripal <d_shripal wrote: > > Hi Jyotish Volunteer and ALL, > > > > Let's take this birth data of mine. > > Name:shripal > > Place:Rajkot,Gujarat > > Time:21:00 > > date:16th March 1980 > > > > 1)In my chart Mars + Saturn + Jupiter + Rahu all > > retrogatin and placed in 11th house.All this > planets > > are aspecting or influencing each other.Correct. > > > > 2)In 5th house Mercury and Ketu are together. > > > > 3)However Venus is in 7th house. > > > > 4)Know planets aspecting first house are Saturn > > 100%,Venus 100% + venus is a dispositor of that > > house > > too and placed with Venus in enemy house. > > > > 5)Venus a first house lord is in trine with Mars + > > saturn + rahu + jupiter,so all this planets aspect > > to > > venus is 50% mutually. > > > > 5)Mercury + ketu sextile with this Venus,so aspect > > mutually is 25%. > > > > So you tell me about my personality and > > thoughts,regarding my looks and approach towards > > life.Which planet will be most influential with > > rescpect, > > > > 1)1st house that is me,my looks nd qualities that > i > > have and i will achieve. > > 2)4th house that is my mother or staying place > > 3)7th house that is my wife or partners > > 4)5th house that is my education,Romance and > > Mantra,Tantra etc. > > 5)9th house my spiritual inclination. > > 6)11th house my friends,relationship with them anf > > gains. > > > > You give me predictions for each and every of my > > above > > points and I will let you know how much truth > about > > it. > > > > So we can come to conclusion what all houses > aspect > > is > > more effective and where palcement is effective. > > > > Which one is more stronger aspect or Placement. > > > > --- Jyotish Volunteers <primusjyotishi > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Not clear why you called placement as a one time > > > influence while > > > aspect is a longerlasting one. Please elaborate > a > > > bit more. > > > > > > > > > navlakshya, Shripal > > > <d_shripal> wrote: > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > That theory will not work here.aspect is not > > > > influencing anybody.So your example I will say > > > there > > > > is no aspect at all. > > > > > > > > Aspect mean you can do something,influencing > > > > someone.when you are seeing means just seeing. > > > > Planets just don't see,they influence.In fact > a > > > very > > > > very great influence.As good as seating and > > seeing > > > is > > > > same for them. > > > > > > > > But let me try to twist your Example,If that > > > killer > > > > seating find he is a son of his Boss or His > > father > > > is > > > > bigger person.Than you tell me Aspect of his > > > father > > > > not even in his presence,what will be > > > outcome.Aspect > > > > or Placement.So i guess who is influencing > whom > > > rather > > > > than just seating. > > > > > > > > And now if you are saying,even he know's still > > he > > > want > > > > to kill that person seating beside him,than > > ready > > > for > > > > a outcome of aspect that is influencing that > > guy. > > > > > > > > That's what I said it in first posting.Strong > > > > Placement's of planets is like a one time > > > promotion or > > > > act of that movement instantly.Aspect is like > > > constant > > > > movement increasing manner or detoriating > > > > movement.Placement is like switch on and > > Off.while > > > > aspect is like Volume button.It influences > your > > > daily > > > > life. > > > > > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shripal > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me the outcome of the following > > > > > > > > > > You are with a killer, a bad man in the same > > > bus, in > > > > > the same seat > > > > > you are in a bus, and killer is in another > > bus, > > > he > > > > > is looking at you. > > > > > > > > > > WHich makes you more comfortable? > > > > > best wishes > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navlakshya, Shripal > > > > > <d_shripal> wrote: > > > > > > Hi sureshji, > > > > > > > > > > > > your Explantion and Prediction is > > wonderful.I > > > > > myself > > > > > > found aspect are more powerful than > > > > > Placements.Even > > > > > > when I have checked Let say Libra rising > and > > > > > Saturn in > > > > > > Lagna.so this person should possess all > the > > > > > qualities > > > > > > of Exaltes saturn,But in fact it is not > > there > > > at > > > > > > all.Considering all factors.Mars in 6th > > house > > > and > > > > > > aspecting this saturn.so this person is > more > > > like > > > > > > Martian,rather than saturn like.Even > > placement > > > for > > > > > > Mars is also weak,still aspect is working > > very > > > > > well > > > > > > than Placement of Saturn.As mars is enemy > to > > > > > > saturn,still it destroy what ever saturn's > > > result > > > > > and > > > > > > imbibe his resuls in that individual. > > > > > > > > > > > > I concluded that Aspect should be given a > > > higher > > > > > > priority. > > > > > > --- sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namasthe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Aspect of any planet is more > powerful > > > than > > > > > its > > > > > > > association. It is > > > > > > > said that if two malefics are in > > association > > > it > > > > > > > brings decieses and if > > > > > > > a third aspects it brings death. This > > could > > > mean > > > > > two > > > > > > > things aspect by > > > > > > > a (malefic) planet is more potent than > the > > > > > > > association of two > > > > > > > (malefics). Agin in another text > > > > > > > "Bhanuna Vasrija drishte dakshange arura > > > > > asrigbhava" > > > > > > > Saturn if > > > > > > > aspected by sun or mars will produce > > > eruptions > > > > > and > > > > > > > boils on the right > > > > > > > side of the body due to impure blood. > > (Cause > > > of > > > > > > > death) this sloka > > > > > > > further explains: "Guruna swayathupathe > > > > > dakshinange > > > > > > > cha vedana". > > > > > > > Jupiter produces swelling of the feets > of > > > pain > > > > > in > > > > > > > the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many such examples which shows > > the > > > > > power > > > > > > > of aspects of planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example given by you Saturn in > the > > > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > > may confer long > > > > > > > life depending on the stregth of Saturn > in > > > amsa > > > > > and > > > > > > > sun . but one > > > > > > > cannot rule out the physical ailments > that > > > it > > > > > > > signifies. Please note > > > > > > > that Saturn Lagnidhipathy is aspecting > the > > > Karma > > > > > > > Sthana as well as > > > > > > > dhanasthana and is placed in the atma > > karaka > > > / > > > > > pitur > > > > > > > karaka Sun. Being > > > > > > > an enemy, he may face many problems with > > his > > > > > > > parents. Highly egoistic > > > > > > > and in always conflict with oneself. He > > > creates > > > > > > > wealth by his own > > > > > > > efforts. in fact jupiter and mars help > > > saturn in > > > > > > > this process of > > > > > > > creating wealth. (Saturn and mars in > > mutual > > > > > aspect - > > > > > > > Lagnadhipathy and > > > > > > > labhadhipathy) He may create wealth > > through > > > > > property > > > > > > > deals and > > > > > > > speculations (High risk) due to the > > position > > > of > > > > > mars > > > > > > > in taurus and > > > > > > > jupiter in mesh(Mars as adhipathy). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But he may expect some downfall (sudden > > and > > > > > > > unexpected) as the Saturn > > > > > > > is the satru rasi and Jupiter aspecting > is > > > also > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > rasi ord > > > > > > > (Vyayasthanadhipathy). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person may not happy in life in > spite > > > of > > > > > being > > > > > > > a successfull > > > > > > > business man. (Sun - Atma Karaka being a > > > Sathru > > > > > of > > > > > > > Saturn - > > > > > > > Lagnadhipathy and Saturn being in leo > > > aspecting > > > > > the > > > > > > > Atma Karaka > > > > > > > griha's Neecha Rasi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you putting such queries. give > your > > > > > comments. > > > > > > > Have no doubt that aspect is more potent > > > than > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > expecially that of > > > > > > > saturn . Remember Ravana had his > downfall > > > when > > > > > > > saturn in transit > > > > > > > reached his seventh house. I have seen > > many > > > > > persons > > > > > > > who were sitting > > > > > > > at the pinacles of their carrer/life > fall > > to > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > when saturn > > > > > > > traverse throuth 4th, 7th and 11th house > > > either > > > > > from > > > > > > > ascendant or moon > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Lord Bless You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh Bbu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > Shripal > > > > > > > <d_shripal> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planetary aspect should be given more > > > > > important or > > > > > > > > palcement,which one would be powerful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let say Saturn is placed in 8th house > in > > > > > Leo.so > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Capricon Ascendant it is benefic.Now > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > placed in > > > > > > > > 4th House aspecting Saturn.So here > > aspect > > > is > > > > > Trine > > > > > > > > that is 50% b/w planets and 100% by > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But being in Leo,it is in enemies > house > > > and > > > > > 50% > > > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > > to jupiter,that is benefic,so Saturn > > thrid > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > 10th house that is his own exalted > sign > > > will > > > > > give > > > > > > > > benefic result or malefic result,by > how > > > much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now climax comes,If Mars is in Taurus > > ans > > > > > ,Mars is > > > > > > > > also aspecting this Saturn 100% and > > > vice-versa > > > > > is > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it will try to make Saturn act > > > > > malefically.so > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > will be a Saturn's response.Good or > > > TooBad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > "Love is friendship set to music." > > > > > > > > "Love conquers all." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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