Rahu / Ketu Rulership & something more...

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Hi David,

 

I totally agree,shadow planets do not aspect at all.If

they are aspected somehow than only they give

results.They even don't act as a dispositor.Only Rahu

ketu results you will see when these palnets are

getting aspected by some other planets,squaring

up,sextile or trine brings results.

 

Even alone placement,they don't give result,till they

are been aspected by real strong planets in a chart.

 

--- David Andrews <andrews635 wrote:

 

> Dear Imranji,

> Thank you for your well researched write up on

> Rahu/Ketu rulership. You state that Rahu aspects

> other planets whilst Ketu does not.

> Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha at page 74 of his book on

> Predictive Astrology of the Hindus states, "Rahu and

> Ketu do not aspect nor are they aspected. But

> suppose Rahu or Ketu is in a particular sign and

> that sign is aspected by Jupiter; then due to the

> quality of the sign being beneficially improved due

> to Jupiter's aspect, the quality of Rahu or Ketu is

> also automatically improved and we say that Rahu or

> Ketu is aspected by a benefic. But strictly speaking

> Rahu and Ketu are affected by conjunction of

> benefics or malefics and do not come in the realm of

> aspects."

> I respectfully invite you, Gurus and learned members

> to throw some light on this, as the problem of

> aspects so far as Rahu and Ketu are concerned have

> not been put to rest.

> Looking forward to hearing from everyone of you.

> Thank you.

>

> David

>

> Muhammad Imran <astroimran wrote:

>

> Friends,

>

> The rulership of lunar nodes (Rahu & Ketu) is, one

> of

> the most controversial issue among astrologers as

> Jyotish classics themselves differ over sign

> ownership

> of Rahu/Ketu. Since they are not physical bodies but

> intersecting points on heaven therefore they are not

> exclusively lord any sign and thus are given

> additional rulership (co-lordship) over certain

> signs.

> In characteristics, Rahu is akin to Saturn and Ketu

> to

> Mars. Rahu aspects fully (100%) to 12th, 9th and 5th

>

> antizodiacally (or say 2nd, 5th and 9th in regular

> order), while Ketu is unable to cast aspect, because

> in myths it is pictured as headless entity.

>

> Maharishi Jaimini teachings suggest the following

> facts regarding Rahu/Ketu.

>

> Nodes Own Mooltrikona Exaltation Debilitation

> -----------------

> Rahu: Aqu Virgo Gemini Sagittarius

> Ketu: Sco Pisces Sagittrius Gemini

> -----------------

>

> In case of Aqu and Sco, Arudhas are erected by

> comparing the relative strength of Sat-Rahu and

> Mars-Ketu respectively. Whereas in general analysis

> both lords/co-lords are considered for these lagans.

> Besides these, the functional (benefic/malefic)

> status

> of nodes are not like other planets. Even it hinges

> upon their placement, association and strength of

> dispositors. Therefore Rahu or its period may become

> inauspicious even for Aquarius or Virgo lagnas, and

> Ketu for Scorpio or Pisces on account of reason

> mentioned above. Often Rahu/Ketu are considered well

> in all dual signs and in uppachaya(3,6,10,11)

> houses.

> Rahu/Ketu in quadrant, if solely associated with

> trine

> lords, cause Raja yogas.

>

>

> Sage Parashara viewed Rahu/Ketu more or less like

> Jaimini;

>

> BPHS (47):34-39.

> “..... The exaltation sign of Rahu is Taurus. The

> exaltation sign of Ketu is Scorpio. The

> MoolaTrikonas

> of Rahu and Ketu are Gemini and Sagittarius. The own

> signs of Rahu and Ketu are Aquarius and Scorpio.

> Some

> sages have expressed the view, that Virgo is the own

> sign of Rahu, and Pisces is the own sign of Ketu...”

>

> Whereas, Varahamihira did not rank Rahu/Ketu

> equivalent to conventional sapta-garahas. Apart from

> it, there are some other views too, on the lordship

> and exaltation/debilitation of Rahu/Ketu.

>

> Regards,

> M.Imran

>

>

>

--- prital_18 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Thank you, Nitinji. I was just asking cuz I did

> not

> > know that rahu

> > and ketu co-ruled those rasis (i'm still

> learning).

> >

> >

> > So, then would rahu for Aqua lagnas and Ketu for

> > Scorpio lagnas be

> > considered benefic (since they are lagna lords)?

> > And what about

> > their aspects on other planets?

> >

> > Prital

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Nitin"

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

> > >

> > > Dear Prital and List members, Namaskaar.

> > >

> > > In case I was unclear earlier, let me re-iterate

> > that I consider

> > >

> > > Rahu to co-rule Aquarius.

> > > Ketu to co-rule Scorpio.

> > >

> > > ...based on my learning thus far.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Nitin.

> > >

> > > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hello Shripal,

 

I am really a novice,but what I read in this SJC forum and Pt Sanjay

Rath articles is that Ketu does not cast any aspect.However Rahu is

an indicator of Purva Paap(like jupiter is for purva punya) hence it

does cast aspect (7th,5th and 9th).However I am not sure whether the

aspects will be forward direction or reverse direction.

 

What do you say?

 

Regards

 

, Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

>

> Hi David,

>

> I totally agree,shadow planets do not aspect at all.If

> they are aspected somehow than only they give

> results.They even don't act as a dispositor.Only Rahu

> ketu results you will see when these palnets are

> getting aspected by some other planets,squaring

> up,sextile or trine brings results.

>

> Even alone placement,they don't give result,till they

> are been aspected by real strong planets in a chart.

>

> --- David Andrews <andrews635> wrote:

>

> > Dear Imranji,

> > Thank you for your well researched write up on

> > Rahu/Ketu rulership. You state that Rahu aspects

> > other planets whilst Ketu does not.

> > Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha at page 74 of his book on

> > Predictive Astrology of the Hindus states, "Rahu and

> > Ketu do not aspect nor are they aspected. But

> > suppose Rahu or Ketu is in a particular sign and

> > that sign is aspected by Jupiter; then due to the

> > quality of the sign being beneficially improved due

> > to Jupiter's aspect, the quality of Rahu or Ketu is

> > also automatically improved and we say that Rahu or

> > Ketu is aspected by a benefic. But strictly speaking

> > Rahu and Ketu are affected by conjunction of

> > benefics or malefics and do not come in the realm of

> > aspects."

> > I respectfully invite you, Gurus and learned members

> > to throw some light on this, as the problem of

> > aspects so far as Rahu and Ketu are concerned have

> > not been put to rest.

> > Looking forward to hearing from everyone of you.

> > Thank you.

> >

> > David

> >

> > Muhammad Imran <astroimran> wrote:

> >

> > Friends,

> >

> > The rulership of lunar nodes (Rahu & Ketu) is, one

> > of

> > the most controversial issue among astrologers as

> > Jyotish classics themselves differ over sign

> > ownership

> > of Rahu/Ketu. Since they are not physical bodies but

> > intersecting points on heaven therefore they are not

> > exclusively lord any sign and thus are given

> > additional rulership (co-lordship) over certain

> > signs.

> > In characteristics, Rahu is akin to Saturn and Ketu

> > to

> > Mars. Rahu aspects fully (100%) to 12th, 9th and 5th

> >

> > antizodiacally (or say 2nd, 5th and 9th in regular

> > order), while Ketu is unable to cast aspect, because

> > in myths it is pictured as headless entity.

> >

> > Maharishi Jaimini teachings suggest the following

> > facts regarding Rahu/Ketu.

> >

> > Nodes Own Mooltrikona Exaltation Debilitation

> > -----------------

> > Rahu: Aqu Virgo Gemini Sagittarius

> > Ketu: Sco Pisces Sagittrius Gemini

> > -----------------

> >

> > In case of Aqu and Sco, Arudhas are erected by

> > comparing the relative strength of Sat-Rahu and

> > Mars-Ketu respectively. Whereas in general analysis

> > both lords/co-lords are considered for these lagans.

> > Besides these, the functional (benefic/malefic)

> > status

> > of nodes are not like other planets. Even it hinges

> > upon their placement, association and strength of

> > dispositors. Therefore Rahu or its period may become

> > inauspicious even for Aquarius or Virgo lagnas, and

> > Ketu for Scorpio or Pisces on account of reason

> > mentioned above. Often Rahu/Ketu are considered well

> > in all dual signs and in uppachaya(3,6,10,11)

> > houses.

> > Rahu/Ketu in quadrant, if solely associated with

> > trine

> > lords, cause Raja yogas.

> >

> >

> > Sage Parashara viewed Rahu/Ketu more or less like

> > Jaimini;

> >

> > BPHS (47):34-39.

> > "..... The exaltation sign of Rahu is Taurus. The

> > exaltation sign of Ketu is Scorpio. The

> > MoolaTrikonas

> > of Rahu and Ketu are Gemini and Sagittarius. The own

> > signs of Rahu and Ketu are Aquarius and Scorpio.

> > Some

> > sages have expressed the view, that Virgo is the own

> > sign of Rahu, and Pisces is the own sign of Ketu..."

> >

> > Whereas, Varahamihira did not rank Rahu/Ketu

> > equivalent to conventional sapta-garahas. Apart from

> > it, there are some other views too, on the lordship

> > and exaltation/debilitation of Rahu/Ketu.

> >

> > Regards,

> > M.Imran

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- prital_18 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you, Nitinji. I was just asking cuz I did

> > not

> > > know that rahu

> > > and ketu co-ruled those rasis (i'm still

> > learning).

> > >

> > >

> > > So, then would rahu for Aqua lagnas and Ketu for

> > > Scorpio lagnas be

> > > considered benefic (since they are lagna lords)?

> > > And what about

> > > their aspects on other planets?

> > >

> > > Prital

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Nitin"

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prital and List members, Namaskaar.

> > > >

> > > > In case I was unclear earlier, let me re-iterate

> > > that I consider

> > > >

> > > > Rahu to co-rule Aquarius.

> > > > Ketu to co-rule Scorpio.

> > > >

> > > > ...based on my learning thus far.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Nitin.

> > > >

> > > > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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