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||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

 

Dear Chandrashekahar Ji, and list members, Namaskaar.

 

The original lessons remain.

 

Again, what I wanted Gilimary to consider was to look at Jupiter more closely,

as she has a replacement (similar to what Gurudev Sanjay Ji has). This may have

been overlooked.

 

:>

 

Best wishes,

Nitin.

 

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

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Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

 

Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:36:55 +0530

 

>--

 

>Dear Nitin,

>I do not have Charakaraka replacement. Even if it were, how does it

>impact the behaviour or results of original Charakaraka till the time

>the replacement actually occurs?

>Regards,

>Chandrashekhar.

>

>Nitin wrote:

>

>>

>> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>>

>> Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, and list members, Namaskaar.

>>

>> Thank you for writing. Some thoughts below..

>>

>> ===========

>>

>>

>> Dear Nitin,

>> I think one must understand the Atmakaraka principle in more depth.

>> [Via NK]

>> True. In agreement.

>>

>>

>> Like Gili I too have Saturn as my Atmakaraka. He haas not brought any

>> grief to me.

>> [Via NK]

>> Wonderful.

>>

>> The reason is very simple. Saturn as Atma Karaka makes it difficult

>> for the person to give grief to others, though he might be at the

>> receiving end.

>> [Via NK]

>> In agreement, again.

>>

>>

>> Now it would depend on the way he/she looks at what is grief, for

>> Saturn to be able to give him/her grief, is it not? If one asks for

>> those with Saturn as Atmakaraka about their getting grief from Saturn,

>> perhaps one will be surprised and understand what I mean.

>> [Via NK]

>> While others may be, I am not surprised, and am usually always sin

>> praise of Shani Dev, or calling upon peace. Again, in agreement.

>> :>

>>

>>

>> Personally, I think the expression of Atmakaraka giving grief and

>> teaching a lesson is taken too literally as also in isolation.

>> [Via NK]

>> In agreement, again.

>>

>>

>> Chandrashekhar.

>>

>> [Via NK]

>> I wasn't taking anything in the literal sense in my last e-mail.

>> Perhaps I may have seemingly stated so. What I did want to point out

>> was that there is a Chara Karaka replacement in Gilimary's chart. Do

>> you share the same?

>>

>> If this is your chart, I don't see the same.

>> http://www..org/education/chandrasekhar.htm

>>

>> Best wishes and warm regards,

>> Nitin.

>> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>>

>>

>>

>> Nitin wrote:

>>

>> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>>

>> Dear Gili, and list members, Namaskaar.

>>

>> Nice example, Gili - the entire chart has to be taken in perspective.

>>

>> Don't forget the Chara AtmaKaraka replacement by Jupiter. What are the

>> lessons that this planet would bring, and how has it been this far...?

>>

>> Best wishes,

>> Nitin.

>>

>> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>>

>> ==================

>>

>>

>> Dear Ramesh,

>> I beg to offer one example where Saturn as AK has not brought sorrow

>> to the

>> native. Saturn is my AK and Lagna Lord. My life has been pleasant

>> and at

>> age 60 I have few regrets concerning things I have done or would have

>> liked

>> to have done. Even the past 6 years in which I have had cancer (ovarian)

>> have not involved too much suffering and, indeed, have brought much

>> jhappiness, including my introduction to Vedic Astrology. I suspect that

>> having Moon conjoined Saturn and Mars in 4H has allowed me to accept the

>> good and bad with a certain amount of detachment and has not given me a

>> worrying nature at all.

>> I do feel most sorry for Saturn who is so feared. He is only doing

>> his job

>> and in my case he gave me careers which served the public and the most

>> recent - helping the poor, uneducated and disadvantaged to get an

>> education.

>> This has given me much joy rather than sorrow.

>> Love,

>> Gili

>>

>> ====

>> Gilimary

>>

>> Natal Chart

>>

>> March 2, 1944

>> Time: 6:30:00 am

>> Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)

>> Place: 2 W 14' 00", 52 N 23' 00"

>> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>>

>> Lunar Yr-Mo: Subhanu - Phalguna

>> Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (9.90% left)

>> Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

>> Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (0.14% left)

>> Yoga: Vishkambha (Sa)

>> Karana: Bava (Su)

>> Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Cn)

>> Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Cn)

>> Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Jupiter)

>>

>> Sunrise: 7:00:51 am (March 1)

>> Sunset: 5:43:58 pm (March 1)

>> Janma Ghatis: 58.7144

>>

>> Ayanamsa: 23-04-24.17

>> Sidereal Time: 17:00:46

>>

>> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

>>

>> Lagna 2 Aq 20' 14.14" Dhan 3 Aq Li

>> Sun - PK 18 Aq 30' 07.56" Sata 4 Aq Pi

>> Moon - MK 23 Ta 18' 50.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn

>> Mars - BK 24 Ta 47' 57.26" Mrig 1 Ta Le

>> Mercury - DK 5 Aq 30' 33.76" Dhan 4 Aq Sc

>> Jupiter ® - AmK 26 Cn 33' 15.41" Asre 3 Cn Aq

>> Venus - PiK 18 Cp 41' 28.45" Srav 3 Cp Ge

>> Saturn - AK 26 Ta 42' 59.53" Mrig 2 Ta Vi

>> Rahu - GK 11 Cn 51' 58.94" Push 3 Cn Li

>> Ketu 11 Cp 51' 58.94" Srav 1 Cp Ar

>> Maandi 17 Sg 32' 53.05" PSha 2 Sg Vi

>> Gulika 5 Sg 23' 46.32" Mool 2 Sg Ta

>>

>> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

>>

>> Moon Moon 1934-03-07 Mars 1935-01-07 Rah 1935-08-10

>> Jup 1937-02-05 Sat 1938-06-08 Merc 1940-01-08

>> Ket 1941-06-07 Ven 1942-01-07 Sun 1943-09-10

>> Mars Mars 1944-03-07 Rah 1944-08-06 Jup 1945-08-25

>> Sat 1946-07-31 Merc 1947-09-10 Ket 1948-09-06

>> Ven 1949-01-31 Sun 1950-04-01 Moon 1950-08-10

>> Rah Rah 1951-03-08 Jup 1953-11-21 Sat 1956-04-12

>> Merc 1959-02-18 Ket 1961-09-09 Ven 1962-09-28

>> Sun 1965-09-28 Moon 1966-08-22 Mars 1968-02-18

>> Jup Jup 1969-03-07 Sat 1971-04-26 Merc 1973-11-09

>> Ket 1976-02-12 Ven 1977-01-19 Sun 1979-09-22

>> Moon 1980-07-09 Mars 1981-11-09 Rah 1982-10-17

>> Sat Sat 1985-03-07 Merc 1988-03-10 Ket 1990-11-22

>> Ven 1991-12-30 Sun 1995-02-27 Moon 1996-02-09

>> Mars 1997-09-13 Rah 1998-10-23 Jup 2001-08-28

>> Merc Merc 2004-03-07 Ket 2006-08-07 Ven 2007-08-04

>> Sun 2010-06-02 Moon 2011-04-07 Mars 2012-09-10

>> Rah 2013-09-07 Jup 2016-03-22 Sat 2018-06-30

>> Ket Ket 2021-03-08 Ven 2021-08-07 Sun 2022-10-08

>> Moon 2023-02-09 Mars 2023-09-13 Rah 2024-02-07

>> Jup 2025-02-24 Sat 2026-01-31 Merc 2027-03-11

>> Ven Ven 2028-03-08 Sun 2031-07-10 Moon 2032-07-09

>> Mars 2034-03-08 Rah 2035-05-08 Jup 2038-05-08

>> Sat 2041-01-08 Merc 2044-03-08 Ket 2047-01-08

>> Sun Sun 2048-03-08 Moon 2048-06-27 Mars 2048-12-27

>> Rah 2049-05-02 Jup 2050-03-26 Sat 2051-01-14

>> Merc 2051-12-28 Ket 2051-11-04 Ven 2053-03-08

>>

>>

>>

>> ====

>>

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