Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 ::OM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Nitin, Guru Visti, What would be the effect of Mercury in 7th house Gemini for Saggi Asc? Would you predict a similar result? Can your reasoning in Baku's case be extended to other combinations of bhadak planets? In particular, what will be effect if: - Bhadakesh is in Bhadakstan, which is also a kendra or trikona? - Bhadakesh is involved in a yoga with other planets? Thankfully yours, Amit N.B: I have also posted this to VA list. (You may answer wherever you encounter this first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Amit, Namaskar I dunno if Nitin has answered this yet, but Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga wil dominate the effects, and be very beneficial. If you see the chart of Emperor Aurangzeb: Aurangzeb, Emperor November 3, 1618 Time: 1:59:00 pm Time Zone: 5:08:48 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" Sun and Mercury are in the Badhak Sthana in the 9th house. Sun in Badhak Sthana and in a navamsa lorded by mars causes the wrath of parents upon the native. But at the same time the Sun is receiving a Neecha Bhanga Yoga, as its debilitated in Rasi and exalted in Navamsa, whilst Mars and Saturn are in kendra in Rasi. As the Sun is a kendra lord and in a trikona, with a trikona lord – Mercury, this becomes a Neecha Bhanga Rajya Yoga and the native will get Rajya Yoga but also the anger/wrath of father. He put his father in jail and killed all his brothers and he himself took the throne… So we have to balance our approach. The badhakesh generally shows who has a bone to pick with us, but the exact results we cannot be sure of until we analyze the yogas. So we can make this generalization: For movable signs the Badhak could manifest more prominently in times of receiving wealth/gains as this involves the 11th house/lord. For fixed and dual signs, the Badhak could manifest more prominently in times of receiving some benefits or rajya yoga, as this involves the 9th and 7th house/lord. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">amitavikrama [amitavikrama ] 31 December 2004 19:40 [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> ::OM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Nitin, Guru Visti, What would be the effect of Mercury in 7th house Gemini for Saggi Asc? Would you predict a similar result? Can your reasoning in Baku's case be extended to other combinations of bhadak planets? In particular, what will be effect if: - Bhadakesh is in Bhadakstan, which is also a kendra or trikona? - Bhadakesh is involved in a yoga with other planets? Thankfully yours, Amit N.B: I have also posted this to VA list. (You may answer wherever you encounter this first) ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 ::Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Visti, Thank you. You have explained the concept in a lucid and convincing way. Re: Aurangzeb's chart, I also have the following questions (excuse me if I am naive): - Both AK and Amk are involved in the curse. AK (Mer) and Amk (Su) are in baadhakstan in rasi. Also, his 9L Moon of D60 is badly afflicted in 2H. Actually Sun and Moon both are eclipsed by the nodes in D60. Thus the wrath is deep-rooted. Possibly not just linked to his soul and actions, but to some curse he could have carried forward from his previous lifes? Now if several lifes are involved, is there a way to ascertain whether or not the curse can be subsided within current life? Does this depend on the baadakesh being in C/S/Dwi sign in Navamsa? or is there anything else to consider? - AK Merc in this case is retrograde showing a deep-rooted desire for birth. But it is also in cumbustion with Sun (less than 3 deg seperation). I remember having read that combustion makes the soul prestine. Is this true? If so, how can this absurdity be explained? He went down in history books as one of the worst Emperor of India. Keenly awaiting your views. Thankfully yours, Amit ::Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaya:: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Amit, Namaskar > > I dunno if Nitin has answered this yet, but Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga wil > dominate the effects, and be very beneficial. > > If you see the chart of Emperor Aurangzeb: > > > > Aurangzeb, Emperor > > November 3, 1618 > > Time: 1:59:00 pm > > Time Zone: 5:08:48 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > Sun and Mercury are in the Badhak Sthana in the 9th house. Sun in Badhak > Sthana and in a navamsa lorded by mars causes the wrath of parents upon the > native. > > But at the same time the Sun is receiving a Neecha Bhanga Yoga, as its > debilitated in Rasi and exalted in Navamsa, whilst Mars and Saturn are in > kendra in Rasi. > > As the Sun is a kendra lord and in a trikona, with a trikona lord - Mercury, > this becomes a Neecha Bhanga Rajya Yoga and the native will get Rajya Yoga > but also the anger/wrath of father. He put his father in jail and killed all > his brothers and he himself took the throne. > > > > So we have to balance our approach. The badhakesh generally shows who has a > bone to pick with us, but the exact results we cannot be sure of until we > analyze the yogas. > > > > So we can make this generalization: > > For movable signs the Badhak could manifest more prominently in times of > receiving wealth/gains as this involves the 11th house/lord. > > For fixed and dual signs, the Badhak could manifest more prominently in > times of receiving some benefits or rajya yoga, as this involves the 9th and > 7th house/lord. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > amitavikrama [amitavikrama] > 31 December 2004 19:40 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh > > > > > ::OM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: > > Dear Nitin, Guru Visti, > > What would be the effect of Mercury in 7th house Gemini for Saggi Asc? > Would you predict a similar result? > > Can your reasoning in Baku's case be extended to other combinations > of bhadak planets? In particular, what will be effect if: > > - Bhadakesh is in Bhadakstan, which is also a kendra or trikona? > > - Bhadakesh is involved in a yoga with other planets? > > Thankfully yours, > > Amit > > N.B: I have also posted this to VA list. (You may answer wherever you > encounter this first) > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1291gfdrj/M=295196.4901138.6071305.300117 6/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104615673/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http: /compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2128215/rand=659789372> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Amit, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">amitavikrama [amitavikrama ] 02 January 2005 00:25 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> ::Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Visti, Thank you. You have explained the concept in a lucid and convincing way. Re: Aurangzeb's chart, I also have the following questions (excuse me if I am naive): - Both AK and Amk are involved in the curse. AK (Mer) and Amk (Su) are in baadhakstan in rasi. Also, his 9L Moon of D60 is badly afflicted in 2H. Actually Sun and Moon both are eclipsed by the nodes in D60. Thus the wrath is deep-rooted. Possibly not just linked to his soul and actions, but to some curse he could have carried forward from his previous lifes? [Visti] Which curse? Bädhak is not a curse – if it was, then he should have suffered. Also I don’t know if this D/60 chart is correct. 10.0pt">Now if several lifes are involved, is there a way to ascertain whether or not the curse can be subsided within current life? Does this depend on the baadakesh being in C/S/Dwi sign in Navamsa? or is there anything else to consider? font-style:italic">[Visti] Jaimini talks about this from the conception chart. font-family:"Courier New""> - AK Merc in this case is retrograde showing a deep-rooted desire for birth. But it is also in cumbustion with Sun (less than 3 deg seperation). I remember having read that combustion makes the soul prestine. Is this true? If so, how can this absurdity be explained? He went down in history books as one of the worst Emperor of India. font-style:italic">[Visti] Notice that Mercury is moving towards the Sun – due to its retrogression, not away from it. So this would not promote his spirituality. font-family:"Courier New""> Keenly awaiting your views. Thankfully yours, Amit ::Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaya:: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Amit, Namaskar > > I dunno if Nitin has answered this yet, but Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga wil > dominate the effects, and be very beneficial. > > If you see the chart of Emperor Aurangzeb: > > > > Aurangzeb, Emperor > > November 3, 1618 > > Time: 1:59:00 pm > > Time Zone: 5:08:48 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > Sun and Mercury are in the Badhak Sthana in the 9th house. Sun in Badhak > Sthana and in a navamsa lorded by mars causes the wrath of parents upon the > native. > > But at the same time the Sun is receiving a Neecha Bhanga Yoga, as its > debilitated in Rasi and exalted in Navamsa, whilst Mars and Saturn are in > kendra in Rasi. > > As the Sun is a kendra lord and in a trikona, with a trikona lord - Mercury, > this becomes a Neecha Bhanga Rajya Yoga and the native will get Rajya Yoga > but also the anger/wrath of father. He put his father in jail and killed all > his brothers and he himself took the throne. > > > > So we have to balance our approach. The badhakesh generally shows who has a > bone to pick with us, but the exact results we cannot be sure of until we > analyze the yogas. > > > > So we can make this generalization: > > For movable signs the Badhak could manifest more prominently in times of > receiving wealth/gains as this involves the 11th house/lord. > > For fixed and dual signs, the Badhak could manifest more prominently in > times of receiving some benefits or rajya yoga, as this involves the 9th and > 7th house/lord. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > amitavikrama [amitavikrama] > 31 December 2004 19:40 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh > > > > > ::OM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: > > Dear Nitin, Guru Visti, > > What would be the effect of Mercury in 7th house Gemini for Saggi Asc? > Would you predict a similar result? > > Can your reasoning in Baku's case be extended to other combinations > of bhadak planets? In particular, what will be effect if: > > - Bhadakesh is in Bhadakstan, which is also a kendra or trikona? > > - Bhadakesh is involved in a yoga with other planets? > > Thankfully yours, > > Amit > > N.B: I have also posted this to VA list. (You may answer wherever you > encounter this first) > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1291gfdrj/M=295196.4901138.6071305.300117 6/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104615673/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http: /compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2128215/rand=659789372> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 ::om namo Bagavate vAsudevAya:: Dear Visti, I was using the words "wrath" and "curse" in tandem. The former is just an ire; the native could even benefit from it (as we have seen in this case). I understand that the latter is a more directed form of anger that is "expressed"; it causes suffering to the native. Thanks for correcting. The software I use shows D60 lagna as Scorpio, while it is actually capricorn. Once again thanks for guiding me. I have learnt quite a bit from this thread. Thankfully yours, Amit , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Amit, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > amitavikrama [amitavikrama] > 02 January 2005 00:25 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh > > > > > ::Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: > > Dear Visti, > > Thank you. You have explained the concept in a lucid and convincing > way. > > Re: Aurangzeb's chart, I also have the following questions (excuse me > if I am naive): > > - Both AK and Amk are involved in the curse. AK (Mer) and Amk (Su) > are in baadhakstan in rasi. Also, his 9L Moon of D60 is badly > afflicted in 2H. Actually Sun and Moon both are eclipsed by the > nodes in D60. Thus the wrath is deep-rooted. Possibly not just linked > to his soul and actions, but to some curse he could have carried > forward from his previous lifes? > > > > [Visti] Which curse? Bädhak is not a curse – if it was, then he should have > suffered. Also I don't know if this D/60 chart is correct. > > > > Now if several lifes are involved, > is there a way to ascertain whether or not the curse can be subsided > within current life? Does this depend on the baadakesh being in > C/S/Dwi sign in Navamsa? or is there anything else to consider? > > > > [Visti] Jaimini talks about this from the conception chart. > > > - AK Merc in this case is retrograde showing a deep-rooted desire for > birth. But it is also in cumbustion with Sun (less than 3 deg > seperation). I remember having read that combustion makes the soul > prestine. Is this true? If so, how can this absurdity be explained? > He went down in history books as one of the worst Emperor of India. > > > > [Visti] Notice that Mercury is moving towards the Sun – due to its > retrogression, not away from it. So this would not promote his spirituality. > > > Keenly awaiting your views. > > Thankfully yours, > > Amit > > > ::Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaya:: > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Amit, Namaskar > > > > I dunno if Nitin has answered this yet, but Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga > wil > > dominate the effects, and be very beneficial. > > > > If you see the chart of Emperor Aurangzeb: > > > > > > > > Aurangzeb, Emperor > > > > November 3, 1618 > > > > Time: 1:59:00 pm > > > > Time Zone: 5:08:48 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > > > > Sun and Mercury are in the Badhak Sthana in the 9th house. Sun in > Badhak > > Sthana and in a navamsa lorded by mars causes the wrath of parents > upon the > > native. > > > > But at the same time the Sun is receiving a Neecha Bhanga Yoga, as > its > > debilitated in Rasi and exalted in Navamsa, whilst Mars and Saturn > are in > > kendra in Rasi. > > > > As the Sun is a kendra lord and in a trikona, with a trikona lord - > Mercury, > > this becomes a Neecha Bhanga Rajya Yoga and the native will get > Rajya Yoga > > but also the anger/wrath of father. He put his father in jail and > killed all > > his brothers and he himself took the throne. > > > > > > > > So we have to balance our approach. The badhakesh generally shows > who has a > > bone to pick with us, but the exact results we cannot be sure of > until we > > analyze the yogas. > > > > > > > > So we can make this generalization: > > > > For movable signs the Badhak could manifest more prominently in > times of > > receiving wealth/gains as this involves the 11th house/lord. > > > > For fixed and dual signs, the Badhak could manifest more > prominently in > > times of receiving some benefits or rajya yoga, as this involves > the 9th and > > 7th house/lord. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > amitavikrama [amitavikrama] > > 31 December 2004 19:40 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Questions on Bhadakesh > > > > > > > > > > ::OM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: > > > > Dear Nitin, Guru Visti, > > > > What would be the effect of Mercury in 7th house Gemini for Saggi > Asc? > > Would you predict a similar result? > > > > Can your reasoning in Baku's case be extended to other combinations > > of bhadak planets? In particular, what will be effect if: > > > > - Bhadakesh is in Bhadakstan, which is also a kendra or trikona? > > > > - Bhadakesh is involved in a yoga with other planets? > > > > Thankfully yours, > > > > Amit > > > > N.B: I have also posted this to VA list. (You may answer wherever > you > > encounter this first) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1291gfdrj/M=295196.4901138.6071305.300117 > 6/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104615673/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http: > /compa > > nion.> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2128215/rand=659789372> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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