Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Comments below. Good questions. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 27 December 2004 10:25 [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Namaskar, I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. font-style:italic">[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my experience. font-style:italic">No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. Besides, the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. benefics in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata gives mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a different story. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as shadripu). font-style:italic">The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the difference between bad karma vs. sins here. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. font-style:italic">From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. These two we can focus on later. font-family:"Courier New""> Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body may be susceptible to disease, correct? font-style:italic">[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the kalapurusha treating Aries as lagna. font-style:italic">2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of the body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. font-style:italic">#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is joined it. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st or 8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer (injury). font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. font-family:"Courier New""> Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? font-style:italic">[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. font-style:italic">I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether the injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken into account – this you can read from Jaimini. font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you, Samir ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, Thank you for your comments. They have clarified things a lot in my mind. At the same time they have raised a few more questions! I would be very grateful for your response. The reason I had thought that 6th from Sun might be important is because the Sun is karaka for vitality. I had reasoned that if one's vitality was affected then it would make them prone to illness. Is this reasoning flawed? My understanding now is that it is the position of 6L (in decanate of house) and 8L (in Rasi) that will determine the region of the body that may be affected by illness. Does this mean, therefore, that the Rasi identical to the 6th and 8th houses will not be affected? That is, if 6H is Aries, can one expect illness to the head – or does it depend only on where the 6H lord is. I suppose if it did depend also on the Rasi, then all people of a certain ascendant would have tendency towards the same illnesses! Sins and bad karma… Kindly clarify my understanding. The six shadripus are Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha, Ahamkara and Matsarya, right? These are not actions, but rather (wrong) motivations for actions, which need to be eliminated. So can we say that sin (6H/L) is caused by these motivations, while bad karma (8H/L) is caused by the actual performance of bad actions? Illness as opposed to injury. Are they distinct in vedic astrology? My feeling is that injury may be more closely related to transits – simply because it happens instantaneously, whereas illness can take time to manifest – though both may be dependent on correct dashas. Is this correct? Timing of illness. I guess that illness is likely in 6/8H lord Mahadasha or Antar for Vimsottari. Is it more likely in one or the other? Of course it must happen in the Maha/Antar of another planet in either of these cases… How can one determine which planet this will be? The combinations I have considered are: -The maha-antar of the same planet (6 or 8 house lord) – though I think this is not always possible, as a planet may need "help" from another -A (temporal) friend of the 6/8H lord (depending on which one we're considering) – because it supports the cause, as it were -Lord of 6H if we're talking about 8H lord, and vice versa -Planet involved in a yoga with the lord -Antar/Maha of Atmakaraka – because the AK is likely to give physical suffering in order to advance spiritual development, especially if it's a malefic. -D-9 Kharesh and also Bhadakesh Now that's quite a long list! Is there any order of preference to these? It seems that the D-9 also has a lot to do with health matters – especially as regards the karakamsa. Should we consider the 6/8 H/L in D9 as well? An article on Medical Astrology on Sanjay Rath's website (http://www.srath.com/lectures/medical_astrology.htm), says that each planet governs a particular body system. It says that a planet inimical to another, can affect the system governed by that other. So can we say the systems governed by the enemies of 6/8 house lords (provided they are strong, and the enemies weak), may also be affected by illness? Finally, I have also read about the correlation between Nakshatras and body parts – though there is some difference between the classics about what each Nakshatra signifies. Are these also used to analyse illness/injury? Thank you for your help, it is assisting me (and hopefully other list members) a great deal. Apologies for the long message – I got a bit carried away, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Comments below. Good questions. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > 27 December 2004 10:25 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > Namaskar, > > I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > [Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > experience. > > No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. Besides, > the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. benefics > in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata gives > mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > different story. > > > > The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > shadripu). > > The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > These two we can focus on later. > > > Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > [Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the kalapurusha > treating Aries as lagna. > > 2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of the > body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > #1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > #2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > joined it. > > > > Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st or > 8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > (injury). > > > > There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > [Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether the > injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken into > account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > Thank you, > > Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 29 December 2004 07:05 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, Thank you for your comments. They have clarified things a lot in my mind. At the same time they have raised a few more questions! I would be very grateful for your response. italic">[Visti] Sure thing. The reason I had thought that 6th from Sun might be important is because the Sun is karaka for vitality. I had reasoned that if one's vitality was affected then it would make them prone to illness. Is this reasoning flawed? font-style:italic">[Visti] Illnesses come from Saturn, but health comes from the Sun. You have raised a question which deals with the core understanding of how to use karakas. The sun will protect the Lagna by giving it good health – this is seen from the position of the Sun from the lagna and its lord. But Saturn will give diseases and ailments, and this I seen from the position of Saturn from the 6th house/lord and 8th house/lord. Similarly accidents and scars/cuts are seen from Mars’ disposition to the 6th house/lord. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">To start with do this: see the placement of the Sun from the Lagna – if it is badly placed then the person will not keep good health. Similarly see the placement of the Lagna from the Sun – if badly placed then the native has a bad attitude towards keeping themselves healthy. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">Next look at Saturn – if Saturn is well placed from the 8th house then the native will be good at handling times of sickness and quick recovery is indicated. These people will have long life. If otherwise (Saturn placed in Lagna is the worst) then you know what to say. 8th specifically deals with long term disease. Similarly the placement of the 8th house from Saturn shows the persons attitude towards diseases. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">The placement of Saturn from the 6th house gives us an idea about the natives short-term ailments, like colds, and etc. i.e. Saturn in the 11th house is in the 6th from the 6th house, so this is not good for the persons dealing with minor problems like colds, rashes, etc. But since 11th house is a kendra to the 8th house, then the person will live long due to their ability to avoid or recover from long-term diseases. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">Now – the above points are the combinations… here is the Sutra: font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">The karakas placement from the Bhava shows the strength of the fortune. font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">The Bhavas placement from the karaka shows the attitude. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">Lordships from the sun can only bring those qualities which the Sun brings into a persons life – i.e. Sun is karaka for father, so 9th lord from Sun brings the father. It is also the job giver, so 4th lord from Sun gives YOU a job (this is because the 4th house from Sun shows those who are working for the Sun – which is you). The Sun rules health, hence the dispositor of the sun gives good health, so in this manner we use the lordships from the karaka. font-style:italic">We can also apply this to Saturn – 6th lord from Saturn is the bringer of diseases, whilst 8th lord from Saturn brings the chronic ailments. font-style:italic"> font-style:italic">Here is the sutra: font-family:"Courier New";font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">The lordship from the karaka is the bringer/giver of the karaka. font-family:"Courier New""> My understanding now is that it is the position of 6L (in decanate of house) and 8L (in Rasi) that will determine the region of the body that may be affected by illness. Does this mean, therefore, that the Rasi identical to the 6th and 8th houses will not be affected? That is, if 6H is Aries, can one expect illness to the head – or does it depend only on where the 6H lord is. I suppose if it did depend also on the Rasi, then all people of a certain ascendant would have tendency towards the same illnesses! font-style:italic">[Visti] That’s the right logic! It all depends on where all those grahas are placed. font-family:"Courier New""> Sins and bad karma… Kindly clarify my understanding. The six shadripus are Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha, Ahamkara and Matsarya, right? These are not actions, but rather (wrong) motivations for actions, which need to be eliminated. So can we say that sin (6H/L) is caused by these motivations, while bad karma (8H/L) is caused by the actual performance of bad actions? font-style:italic">[Visti] Bingo. You’re a natural. font-family:"Courier New""> Illness as opposed to injury. Are they distinct in vedic astrology? My feeling is that injury may be more closely related to transits – simply because it happens instantaneously, whereas illness can take time to manifest – though both may be dependent on correct dashas. Is this correct? font-style:italic">[Visti] Mars causes cuts and bruises, whilst Saturn causes disease… simple! font-family:"Courier New""> Timing of illness. I guess that illness is likely in 6/8H lord Mahadasha or Antar for Vimsottari. Is it more likely in one or the other? Of course it must happen in the Maha/Antar of another planet in either of these cases… How can one determine which planet this will be? The combinations I have considered are: -The maha-antar of the same planet (6 or 8 house lord) – though I think this is not always possible, as a planet may need "help" from another -A (temporal) friend of the 6/8H lord (depending on which one we're considering) – because it supports the cause, as it were -Lord of 6H if we're talking about 8H lord, and vice versa -Planet involved in a yoga with the lord -Antar/Maha of Atmakaraka – because the AK is likely to give physical suffering in order to advance spiritual development, especially if it's a malefic. font-style:italic">[Visti] As long as we are using vimçottari dasa, we are going to have the doubts that you have expressed above. Märaka dasas tend to cause suffering for the body, and can bring these problems to light. Ätmakäraka may not causes diseases nor accidents unless it is placed in a position to do so. font-style:italic">To really understand the Udu dasa, argala has to be learned. font-family:"Courier New""> -D-9 Kharesh and also Bhadakesh font-style:italic">[Visti] Kharesh of d9 will no doubt give problems, but the badhakesh has to be in a yoga to give problems. "Courier New";color:navy"> font-family:"Courier New""> Now that's quite a long list! Is there any order of preference to these? font-style:italic">[Visti] Forget it all and just use Shoola Dasa. Its sooo easy. I will be presenting its use for accident timing in the upcoming conference. font-family:"Courier New""> It seems that the D-9 also has a lot to do with health matters – especially as regards the karakamsa. Should we consider the 6/8 H/L in D9 as well? font-style:italic">[Visti] No. font-family:"Courier New""> An article on Medical Astrology on Sanjay Rath's website (http://www.srath.com/lectures/medical_astrology.htm), says that each planet governs a particular body system. It says that a planet inimical to another, can affect the system governed by that other. So can we say the systems governed by the enemies of 6/8 house lords (provided they are strong, and the enemies weak), may also be affected by illness? font-style:italic">[Visti] These are the sapta dhatus that he is reffering to. This knowledge is used with the 2nd house, but I won’t comment for now. font-family:"Courier New""> Finally, I have also read about the correlation between Nakshatras and body parts – though there is some difference between the classics about what each Nakshatra signifies. Are these also used to analyse illness/injury? font-style:italic">[Visti] They play a subtler role, but I personally haven’t worked on this. Freedom Cole has done a lot of work in this area. font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for your help, it is assisting me (and hopefully other list members) a great deal. Apologies for the long message – I got a bit carried away, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Comments below. Good questions. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > 27 December 2004 10:25 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > Namaskar, > > I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > [Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > experience. > > No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. Besides, > the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. benefics > in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata gives > mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > different story. > > > > The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > shadripu). > > The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > These two we can focus on later. > > > Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > [Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the kalapurusha > treating Aries as lagna. > > 2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of the > body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > #1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > #2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > joined it. > > > > Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st or > 8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > (injury). > > > > There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > [Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether the > injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken into > account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > Thank you, > > Samir ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Dear Visti, Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of illness. Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > >Comments below. Good questions. > >Best wishes, > > > > >Visti Larsen > >http://srigaruda.com > > <visti visti > > > > > > _____ > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062] >27 December 2004 10:25 > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > >Namaskar, > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my >experience. > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. Besides, >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. >benefics >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata gives >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a >different story. > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as >shadripu). > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. >These two we can focus on later. > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the >kalapurusha >treating Aries as lagna. > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of the >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is >joined it. > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st or >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer >(injury). > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether >the >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken into >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > >Thank you, > >Samir > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/compa >nion.> click here > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > _____ > > Links > >* >/ > >* > ><?subject=Un> > >* ><> Terms of Service. > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Gili, Namaskar The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should also be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx] 03 January 2005 20:18 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness Dear Visti, Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of illness. Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > >Comments below. Good questions. > >Best wishes, > > > > >Visti Larsen > >http://srigaruda.com > > <visti visti > > > > > > _____ > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062] >27 December 2004 10:25 > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > >Namaskar, > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my >experience. > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. Besides, >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. >benefics >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata gives >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a >different story. > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as >shadripu). > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. >These two we can focus on later. > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the >kalapurusha >treating Aries as lagna. > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of the >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is >joined it. > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st or >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer >(injury). > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether >the >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken into >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > >Thank you, > >Samir > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g r >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp a >nion.> click here > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S = >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > _____ > > Links > >* >/ > >* > ><?subject=Un> > >* ><> Terms of Service. > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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