RE: Doubts on your article

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Visti Larsen

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Sreekumar [sree_kumar99]

17 December 2004 04:40

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Doubts on your article

 

Respected Vistiji,

 

Your article on Navamsa in your website is an excellent one. I was having

many doubts on

divisional charts which I could not get answers from the Groups. Now that

you have started

giving articles on D charts it is a great help to me. Sir, in the meanwhile

I have some doubts

after reading your articles. Would you encourage beginners like me to ask

clarifications on your

articles, I will be grateful to you.

 

Sir, I have the following doubts on Navamsa.

 

1. In your article you have said that Rahu causes diversion from

spiritual life and Rahu

represent material desires.

 

I have read in many articles that Rahu is a spiritual planet. Recently

someone told me that Rahu

in 12th from AL makes one spiritual. It is also said that the more malefic

the Atmakaraka the

more spiritual the person. I don’t remember where I have read this or the

basis of these things

but I think it is from the Vedic Astrology materials that I have

got these views. In

my personal example also I am becoming more spiritual recently (in Rahu Dasa

Rahu Antardasa

started) than never before.

 

[Visti] There are 2 extreme paths; Moksha Marga and Bhoga Marga. These are

lorded by Ketu and Rähu respectively. The one without a head and hence no

desires (Ketu) and the one who is full of desires and causes our rebirth

(Rähu).

 

The dictum is Rähu in 12th or 7th from AL makes a person spiritual. Note

that the 12th and 7th houses are the main obstruction causing houses from

the AL - so naturally if Rähu the big bhoga-margi is obstructing you, you

will become spiritual like Ketu.

 

In case of Rähu as AK, another deeper story emerges. It is not a given that

people with

Rähu as AK are spiritual - infact they will either be very spiritual or very

materialistic. This confusion only exist with Rähu as AK - as here we are

looking for the color of the atma and hence its cause of rebirth. The AK has

the purpose of teaching you about God and spirituality, so if Rähu takes on

this task, then God is going to cause you to be deceived, cheated, etc. This

means that the person will be cheated a lot in life, but must not cheat

others (as he did in the past life).

 

Now this confusion occurs because among the grahas - Rähu has no color, he

is smokey or invisible if anything. So in the color spectrum we have the Sun

as Yellowish, Mars are Red, Mercury as Green, Jupiter as tawny, Moon as

pearl-white, Venus as variegated, Saturn as blue and Rähu as smokey or

invisible - could even be black.

Note that this may differ from SOME shastras, as the shastras give the

colors of the planets for the sake of finding the complexion of the skin for

human beings - hence a different basis.

So when we are judging the light of Rähu, it is either black, or the color

of the paramatma itself, because Rähu does not have a light of his own.

People like Paramahamsa Yogananda and Srila Prabhupada realized the color of

the paramatma to be stronger than the darkness, and hence their spirituality

was of a very high level.

 

 

2. It is said that even if a planet is in Debilitation in chart if it

gets Exaltation or own

sign placement in Navamsa the Dasa of such planet will be good.

 

[Visti] This depends solely on the placement from lagna and AL. Some

debilitated planets give excellent results.

 

Sir, in a case of Rahu placed in Sagittarius (his debilitation sign as per

some), if he is in

Mithuna Navamsa (considered to be a good rasi for him), can his Dasa

promising?

 

[Visti] yes, depending on placement.

 

3. While we analyse the Navamsa charts should we take Navamsa Lagna as

House No.1 or the

basic chart Lagna as House 1.

 

[Visti] We can do both - it depends on the purpose of doing it. Jaimini

explains both infact.

 

I am asking this because in our part of Kerala, astrologers used to look

into this like suppose

Scorpio is the ascendant and Moon is placed in Leo in chart and in Libra

Navamsa, they say 9th

lord in 10th and in 12th in Navamsa.(considered as bad) But in the case

Aquarius is the Navamsa

Lagna so if we take Navamsa Lagna as 1st House, then Moon is in the 9th

house considered to be

good? which one is correct sir,

 

[Visti] Both are correct. The approach used by these Kerala astrologers is

used to see how the d9 placements are affecting the d1 placements. Here an

entirely new terminology arises as a result.

If say the d1 lagna is Aries, and planets are placed in pisces in d9, then

those planets are said to be placed in vyaya-amsa. If in the Libra in d9

then its Kalatra-amsa. So in Lagna we call it Tanu-amsa or Lagna-amsa. This

is why I have stopped calling the Navamsa Lagna as Lagnamsa, as then it

actually means something different, as you can see.

 

This forms the basis of a techinique called Rasi-Tulya-Navamsa. This is what

Zoran has written about here:

http://.org/learn/rasi_tulya_navamsa.htm

 

But, if you are to analyze the Navamsa independently to see the results,

then you must treat Navamsa Lagna as Lagna.

 

4. In the chart 3 of your article you have given a chart with Scorpio

Lagna and you

mentioned Ketu as Lagna lord and also Mars as Lagna Lord.

 

Since I have Scorpio as Lagna I am much confused on the dual lordship for

Scorpio Lagna. How this

dual lordship is understood logically.

 

[Visti] This has been discussed by Nitin and others in the Achyuta Gurukul,

where I am cc'ing your mail to.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Sree

 

 

 

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