Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Visti-ji, Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve overcoming a lot of resistance? (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, owned of 10-th House) (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is it commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? Thanks for your time, - Sourav ================================================================= , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are sitting > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) and > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H)I > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if the 10th lord > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained to do. In > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being salesmen or > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what you are > doing need not be the same. > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in the 6th > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th will > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects on 6th – > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same way. > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and logistics is > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst the > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will bring you > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of the work can > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – provided that > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in nature. > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is the > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > Thanks for your time, > > - Sourav > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2434971/rand=116123887> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sourav, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">feynman_8 [feynman_8 ] 10 December 2004 14:44 #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti-ji, Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have attained full knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all the siddhis you have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10 is the Karma-amsa. font-family:"Courier New""> Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve overcoming a lot of resistance? [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work and service. This service is necessary for one to later express ones qualifications indicated by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of money indicated by the 2nd house. font-family:"Courier New""> (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, owned of 10-th House) [Visti] So? font-family:"Courier New""> (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is it commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. [Visti] No it is not common in my experience. font-family:"Courier New""> (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What is the difference between a Graha and an Upagraha? A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are you? font-family:"Courier New""> Thanks for your time, - Sourav ================================================================= , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are sitting > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) and > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H)I > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if the 10th lord > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained to do. In > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being salesmen or > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what you are > doing need not be the same. > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in the 6th > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th will > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects on 6th – > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same way. > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and logistics is > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst the > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will bring you > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of the work can > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – provided that > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in nature. > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is the > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > Thanks for your time, > > - Sourav > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Visti-ji, Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you ask? Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an article. Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a satellite of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also can have a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies that. That is my understanding. Kindly comment. Thanks, - Sourav ===================================================== , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 14:44 > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have attained full > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all the siddhis you > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10 is the Karma-amsa. > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve > overcoming a lot of resistance? > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work and service. This > service is necessary for one to later express ones qualifications indicated > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of money indicated > by the 2nd house. > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, owned > of 10-th House) > > > > [Visti] So? > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is it > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience. > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What is the difference > between a Graha and an Upagraha? > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are you? > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > - Sourav > ================================================================= > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are sitting > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) > and > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H) I > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if the > 10th lord > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained to > do. In > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being > salesmen or > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what > you are > > doing need not be the same. > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in the > 6th > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th > will > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects on > 6th – > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same way. > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and > logistics is > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst the > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will bring > you > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of > the work can > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – > provided that > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in > nature. > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is > the > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > 76/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > :/www.n > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=116123887> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1293ark3t/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102772758/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sourav, Namaskar The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to eclipse or take hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our minds, our body and etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and instead can only control some body-parts or organs. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">feynman_8 [feynman_8 ] 10 December 2004 16:29 Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti-ji, Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you ask? Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an article. Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a satellite of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also can have a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies that. That is my understanding. Kindly comment. Thanks, - Sourav ===================================================== , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 14:44 > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have attained full > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all the siddhis you > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10 is the Karma-amsa. > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve > overcoming a lot of resistance? > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work and service. This > service is necessary for one to later express ones qualifications indicated > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of money indicated > by the 2nd house. > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, owned > of 10-th House) > > > > [Visti] So? > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is it > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience. > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What is the difference > between a Graha and an Upagraha? > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are you? > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > - Sourav > ================================================================= > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are sitting > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) > and > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H) I > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if the > 10th lord > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained to > do. In > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being > salesmen or > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what > you are > > doing need not be the same. > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in the > 6th > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th > will > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects on > 6th – > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same way. > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and > logistics is > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst the > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will bring > you > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of > the work can > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – > provided that > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in > nature. > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is > the > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > 76/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > :/www.n > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=116123887> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > / > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * Your use of is subject to the > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1293ark3t/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102772758/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Visti-ji, O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is significance in D-1 and D-n's? Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit taken aback. Thanks, - Sourav ===================================================== , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to eclipse or take > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our minds, our body and > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and instead can only > control some body-parts or organs. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 16:29 > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you ask? > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an article. > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a satellite > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also can have > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies that. > That is my understanding. Kindly comment. > > Thanks, > > - Sourav > > ===================================================== > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > 10 December 2004 14:44 > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have attained full > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all the > siddhis you > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10 is the > Karma-amsa. > > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve > > overcoming a lot of resistance? > > > > > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work and > service. This > > service is necessary for one to later express ones qualifications > indicated > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of money > indicated > > by the 2nd house. > > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, > owned > > of 10-th House) > > > > > > > > [Visti] So? > > > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is > it > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. > > > > > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience. > > > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? > > > > > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What is the > difference > > between a Graha and an Upagraha? > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are you? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > - Sourav > > ================================================================= > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > > Comments below. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are > sitting > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) > > and > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H) > I > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if > the > > 10th lord > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained > to > > do. In > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being > > salesmen or > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what > > you are > > > doing need not be the same. > > > > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in > the > > 6th > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th > > will > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects > on > > 6th – > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same > way. > > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and > > logistics is > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst > the > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will > bring > > you > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of > > the work can > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – > > provided that > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in > > nature. > > > > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is > > the > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > > 76/D=gr > > > > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > > :/www.n > > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=116123887> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * > > > / > > > > > > * > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1293ark3t/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > 76/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102772758/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > :/www.n > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=578203527> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1299fcd7p/M=295196.4901138.6071305.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102779050/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http :/compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sourav, Namaskar The next division of the Upagrahas is in; Aprakasha vs Upagraha. Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa, Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu are Aprakasha Grahas, and can cause direct physical damage to the body or other peoples bodies. The other upagrahas can cause loss of memory, or lack of knowledge, and in few cases avert evil, like Yamaghantaka. In d9 they say that: Mandi placed in trines to Navamsa lagna causes one to be without knowledge of ones birthtime. The reason I asked about your Mantra is because of the ammount of questions you posed – I use vedic-numerology to see what influences the person is under from their style of writing or the number of questions they ask. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">feynman_8 [feynman_8 ] 10 December 2004 16:43 Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti-ji, O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is significance in D-1 and D-n's? Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit taken aback. Thanks, - Sourav ===================================================== , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to eclipse or take > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our minds, our body and > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and instead can only > control some body-parts or organs. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > 10 December 2004 16:29 > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you ask? > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an article. > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a satellite > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also can have > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies that. > That is my understanding. Kindly comment. > > Thanks, > > - Sourav > > ===================================================== > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > 10 December 2004 14:44 > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications. > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought it > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general. You are > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly comment. > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have attained full > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all the > siddhis you > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10 is the > Karma-amsa. > > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve > > overcoming a lot of resistance? > > > > > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work and > service. This > > service is necessary for one to later express ones qualifications > indicated > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of money > indicated > > by the 2nd house. > > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by Mars, > owned > > of 10-th House) > > > > > > > > [Visti] So? > > > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your charting > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts, that DK > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's chart? Is > it > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners. > > > > > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience. > > > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n charts? > > > > > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What is the > difference > > between a Graha and an Upagraha? > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are you? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > - Sourav > > ================================================================= > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > > Comments below. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8] > > > 10 December 2004 01:34 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I find an > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde, are > sitting > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H (Pisces) > > and > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean my work > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th Lord in 6H) > I > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in 6H) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to do, if > the > > 10th lord > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were trained > to > > do. In > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up being > > salesmen or > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do and what > > you are > > > doing need not be the same. > > > > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How do we see > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or Siddhamsa)? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the planets in > the > > 6th > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in the 6th > > will > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the aspects > on > > 6th – > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the same > way. > > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money and > > logistics is > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do, whilst > the > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning. > > > > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-n ? AK > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to enlighten us. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which will > bring > > you > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the nature of > > the work can > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to God – > > provided that > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also spiritual in > > nature. > > > > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK signify? Is > > the > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your experience? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your spouses/partners. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > > > - Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=12943kkv8/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > > 76/D=gr > > > > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102725400/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > > :/www.n > > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=116123887> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > / > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1293ark3t/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 > 76/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102772758/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http > :/www.n > > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? > M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > > :HM/A=2434971/rand=578203527> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > / > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * Your use of is subject to the > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1299fcd7p/M=295196.4901138.6071305.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1102779050/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http :/compa > nion.> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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