Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Dear Vistiji, Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planets aspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is as good as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses. In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natally have different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted & aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit through Capricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ? How abt vice-versa too ? 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6th lord/house. a) In case 1 & 6 lords are inimical the extent of yoga is reduced ? b) If this yoga is observed from Lagna, Moon & Sun then this person is inclined towards gain of knowledge in every form ? physical, mental & soul level ? Warm Regards, Ravish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ravish, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ravish [smart_rapheal ] 01 December 2004 05:30 [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Vistiji, Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planets aspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is as good as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses. In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in predictions? font-family:"Courier New""> 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natally have different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted & aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit through Capricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ? How abt vice-versa too ? [Visti] The transits are affecting the natal chart, not vice versa. Transits are like the Dasa of the world, and you have no choice but to follow that. font-family:"Courier New""> 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6th lord/house. [Visti] Also 5th or 3rd house/lords. font-family:"Courier New""> a) In case 1 & 6 lords are inimical the extent of yoga is reduced ? [Visti] The knowledge becomes harder to come by. The person gets very competitive as a result. font-family:"Courier New""> b) If this yoga is observed from Lagna, Moon & Sun then this person is inclined towards gain of knowledge in every form ? physical, mental & soul level ? [Visti] Actually we do not analyze it from Moon or Sun, but from arudha Lagna and atmakaraka – I have given an extensive paper on this, in the Jyotish-Digest Annual issue. font-family:"Courier New""> Warm Regards, Ravish ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 You said: "In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspecton its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in prediction? You think it's not? The planet that aspects it's exaltation /own/ sign, in Nadi and western a. as well, will benefit the house in question, at ;east- so it can be used in predictions, I look for that for ex., Chandrashekhar as well.. I find this working very well. Why do you think it's irrelevant- it's full 7th aspect, at least? The question that I've been mulling over for while, is that all deb planets aspect their exaltation sign- and some opine /nadi/ that benefits the planet itself- that's where I am not quite sure about- maybe Chandrashekhar could shed some light on this? Regards, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ravish, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Ravish [smart_rapheal ] 01 December 2004 05:30To: Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji Dear Vistiji,Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planetsaspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is asgood as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses.In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspecton its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in predictions? 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natallyhave different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted &aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit throughCapricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ?How abt vice-versa too ? [Visti] The transits are affecting the natal chart, not vice versa. Transits are like the Dasa of the world, and you have no choice but to follow that. 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6thlord/house. [Visti] Also 5th or 3rd house/lords. a) In case 1 & 6 lords are inimical the extent of yoga is reduced ? [Visti] The knowledge becomes harder to come by. The person gets very competitive as a result. b) If this yoga is observed from Lagna, Moon & Sun then this person isinclined towards gain of knowledge in every form ? physical, mental &soul level ? [Visti] Actually we do not analyze it from Moon or Sun, but from arudha Lagna and atmakaraka – I have given an extensive paper on this, in the Jyotish-Digest Annual issue. Warm Regards,Ravish~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My – Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar Very relevant comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:44 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> You said: "In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? color:black">[Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in prediction? color:black"> You think it's not? The planet that aspects it's exaltation /own/ sign, in Nadi and western a. as well, will benefit the house in question, at ;east- so it can be used in predictions, I look for that for ex., Chandrashekhar as well.. I find this working very well. color:black">[Visti] Its good to follow others lead, but let me now share with you that some of the Nadi-systems you see mentioned out there are not fully understood. Take an example from the work; Brighu Nandi Nadi. First of all, there is no such thing, as the two nadi’s are called Brighu Nadi and Nandi Nadi respectfully. The author of the same; RG Rao has not even given Sanskrit to prove his translation is correct in that work and a lot of assumptions are given because he has combined two works into one. This Brighu Nandi Nadi is the basis of many peoples ideas about what Nadi-Astrology is – problem is that very few Nadi’s have been translated for our benefit, and Brighu Nandi Nadi is one of the few, and it so turns out that its almost “made up”. I do give RG Rao full credit for his work in Palmistry thou, which is of great benefit for all of us, but his understanding of Jyotish does not agree with too MANY shastras. color:black">Nadi’s were the predecessors of the Shastras like BPHS, Jätaka Parijata, Brihat Jätaka, etc. They took their basis from the Nadi’s, which were much much older and written by Saints like Brighu, Agastya, etc. What Päräçara, and other authors did was, they were taught the essence of these Nadi-principles and based on that their works were created. If you read some translated works like Chandra Kala Nadi, you will see what I mean. color:black">If you think that this aspect principle is working well then please tell me how exactly you use it and interpret it, using a chart for reference. The ancient texts all unanimously agree that the aspect of a planet on its OWN SIGN will benefit the sign – nothing is said about aspecting debilitation or other signs in particular. color:black">Why do you think it's irrelevant- it's full 7th aspect, at least? color:black">[Visti] Not all planets have full 7th house aspect, infact Saturn, Mars, Jupiter and Rahu have ½ 7th house aspect, whilst their special aspects are full. Some people disagree about Rahu’s aspect. color:black">The question that I've been mulling over for while, is that all deb planets aspect their exaltation sign- and some opine /nadi/ that benefits the planet itself- that's where I am not quite sure about- maybe Chandrashekhar could shed some light on this? color:black">Regards, color:black">Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ravish, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ravish [smart_rapheal ] 01 December 2004 05:30 [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> Dear Vistiji, Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planets aspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is as good as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses. In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in predictions? 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natally have different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted & aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit through Capricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ? How abt vice-versa too ? [Visti] The transits are affecting the natal chart, not vice versa. Transits are like the Dasa of the world, and you have no choice but to follow that. 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6th lord/house. [Visti] Also 5th or 3rd house/lords. a) In case 1 & 6 lords are inimical the extent of yoga is reduced ? [Visti] The knowledge becomes harder to come by. The person gets very competitive as a result. b) If this yoga is observed from Lagna, Moon & Sun then this person is inclined towards gain of knowledge in every form ? physical, mental & soul level ? [Visti] Actually we do not analyze it from Moon or Sun, but from arudha Lagna and atmakaraka I have given an extensive paper on this, in the Jyotish-Digest Annual issue. Warm Regards, Ravish ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> The all-new My Get yours free! ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Dear Visti, Very relevant, indeed. Thanks for info on Nadi. I don't recall reading anywhere that 7th H aspect/which I was referring to in previous post, you may have noticed/ is just 1/2 strength of special aspects for SA, Ju, Ma, /and/or rah. Would you please give me some bibliography? So Sa opposite Moon less harming than special aspects it casts- What I know from western astrology is that opposition-7th aspect /Sa/ is easier to handle than square, for ex. Later, while studying Jy. I continued to see it this way, but with reserve. But third aspect of Saturn to Moon, for ex. to be stronger that 7th- I don't know. I have to pay more attention to that. I've seen that the house opposite Ju always benefits, Ju in Cp aspecting Cn. If that's from third, than 9th H benefits, etc.. Our Brendan Feely is no doubt spiritual person with the same combination, that's just come to mind.. Sa 7th aspect on Su is considered 'curse of father'- are special aspects also included?- based on what you said, one would assume it's even more so, right? Some of contemporary astr. with a good status, consider /as/ Nadi-view the way I wrote about- that's what I've read. It's good that you offered another angle and the references- Thank you for that. Best wishes, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar Very relevant comments below. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:44To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji Dear Visti, You said: "In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspecton its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in prediction? You think it's not? The planet that aspects it's exaltation /own/ sign, in Nadi and western a. as well, will benefit the house in question, at ;east- so it can be used in predictions, I look for that for ex., Chandrashekhar as well.. I find this working very well. [Visti] Its good to follow others lead, but let me now share with you that some of the Nadi-systems you see mentioned out there are not fully understood. Take an example from the work; Brighu Nandi Nadi. First of all, there is no such thing, as the two nadi’s are called Brighu Nadi and Nandi Nadi respectfully. The author of the same; RG Rao has not even given Sanskrit to prove his translation is correct in that work and a lot of assumptions are given because he has combined two works into one. This Brighu Nandi Nadi is the basis of many peoples ideas about what Nadi-Astrology is – problem is that very few Nadi’s have been translated for our benefit, and Brighu Nandi Nadi is one of the few, and it so turns out that its almost “made up”. I do give RG Rao full credit for his work in Palmistry thou, which is of great benefit for all of us, but his understanding of Jyotish does not agree with too MANY shastras. Nadi’s were the predecessors of the Shastras like BPHS, Jätaka Parijata, Brihat Jätaka, etc. They took their basis from the Nadi’s, which were much much older and written by Saints like Brighu, Agastya, etc. What Päräçara, and other authors did was, they were taught the essence of these Nadi-principles and based on that their works were created. If you read some translated works like Chandra Kala Nadi, you will see what I mean. If you think that this aspect principle is working well then please tell me how exactly you use it and interpret it, using a chart for reference. The ancient texts all unanimously agree that the aspect of a planet on its OWN SIGN will benefit the sign – nothing is said about aspecting debilitation or other signs in particular. Why do you think it's irrelevant- it's full 7th aspect, at least? [Visti] Not all planets have full 7th house aspect, infact Saturn, Mars, Jupiter and Rahu have ½ 7th house aspect, whilst their special aspects are full. Some people disagree about Rahu’s aspect. The question that I've been mulling over for while, is that all deb planets aspect their exaltation sign- and some opine /nadi/ that benefits the planet itself- that's where I am not quite sure about- maybe Chandrashekhar could shed some light on this? Regards, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ravish, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Ravish [smart_rapheal ] 01 December 2004 05:30To: Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji Dear Vistiji,Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planetsaspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is asgood as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses.In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspecton its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in predictions? 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natallyhave different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted &aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit throughCapricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ?How abt vice-versa too ? [Visti] The transits are affecting the natal chart, not vice versa. Transits are like the Dasa of the world, and you have no choice but to follow that. 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6thlord/house. [Visti] Also 5th or 3rd house/lords. a) In case 1 & 6 lords are inimical the extent of yoga is reduced ? [Visti] The knowledge becomes harder to come by. The person gets very competitive as a result. b) If this yoga is observed from Lagna, Moon & Sun then this person isinclined towards gain of knowledge in every form ? physical, mental &soul level ? [Visti] Actually we do not analyze it from Moon or Sun, but from arudha Lagna and atmakaraka I have given an extensive paper on this, in the Jyotish-Digest Annual issue. Warm Regards,Ravish~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My Get yours free! ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 03 December 2004 02:57 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Very relevant, indeed. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks for info on Nadi. 12.0pt">I don't recall reading anywhere that 7th H aspect/which I was referring to in previous post, you may have noticed/ is just 1/2 strength of special aspects for SA, Ju, Ma, /and/or rah. Would you please give me some bibliography? 12.0pt"> [Visti] I stand corrected – not sure where I got that from, possibly I’m mixing it up with the other dristi’s; i.e. 1/4th, ½ and 3/4th. I will have to get back to you on this when I remember where I got that from. 12.0pt">So Sa opposite Moon less harming than special aspects it casts- What I know from western astrology is that opposition-7th aspect /Sa/ is easier to handle than square, for ex. Later, while studying Jy. I continued to see it this way, but with reserve. But third aspect of Saturn to Moon, for ex. to be stronger that 7th- I don't know. I have to pay more attention to that. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've seen that the house opposite Ju always benefits, Ju in Cp aspecting Cn. If that's from third, than 9th H benefits, etc.. Our Brendan Feely is no doubt spiritual person with the same combination, that's just come to mind.. 12.0pt"> [Visti] Ok. Brendan Feeley has a 4 planet conjunction which enabled him to spend a lot of time in an ashram with his Guru, if I were to find all those people with a Jupiter aspecting 9th house, not many of them would be spiritual – And some who are spiritual don’t have Jupiter aspecting 9th house – I belong to the latter group. Instead I was taught to interpret the dristi like this; Jupiters dristi on any house gives a desire to do good for that house and bless that house. This is because the native always sees the good deeds of such a person indicated by that house. The nature of the good deed is seen from the sign in that house. So George W. Bush Jr. having Jupiter in 3rd house would be very appreciative of his father, especially the guidance his father could have given him from a spiritual perspective (pisces). Another important perspective on Graha dristi, is to see those planets which aspect the lagna, as these will be the people who hold a very strong sway over the native. In the chart of Adolph Hitler Mercury has the closest dristi on the Lagna, and is the 9th lord, showing that elders and superiors will hold a strong sway on his behaviour. It’s a separate fact that this 9th lord is afflicted by Mars and Sun, which caused the father to be quite violent towards the young Adolph when he was growing up. 12.0pt">Sa 7th aspect on Su is considered 'curse of father'- are special aspects also included?- based on what you said, one would assume it's even more so, right? [Visti] Aspect of at least 2 malefics is required. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Some of contemporary astr. with a good status, consider /as/ Nadi-view the way I wrote about- that's what I've read. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">It's good that you offered another angle and the references- Thank you for that. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Best wishes, 12.0pt">Anna 12.0pt"> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar Very relevant comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:44 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> You said: "In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? color:black">[Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in prediction? color:black"> You think it's not? The planet that aspects it's exaltation /own/ sign, in Nadi and western a. as well, will benefit the house in question, at ;east- so it can be used in predictions, I look for that for ex., Chandrashekhar as well.. I find this working very well. color:black">[Visti] Its good to follow others lead, but let me now share with you that some of the Nadi-systems you see mentioned out there are not fully understood. Take an example from the work; Brighu Nandi Nadi. First of all, there is no such thing, as the two nadis are called Brighu Nadi and Nandi Nadi respectfully. The author of the same; RG Rao has not even given Sanskrit to prove his translation is correct in that work and a lot of assumptions are given because he has combined two works into one. This Brighu Nandi Nadi is the basis of many peoples ideas about what Nadi-Astrology is problem is that very few Nadis have been translated for our benefit, and Brighu Nandi Nadi is one of the few, and it so turns out that its almost made up. I do give RG Rao full credit for his work in Palmistry thou, which is of great benefit for all of us, but his understanding of Jyotish does not agree with too MANY shastras. color:black">Nadis were the predecessors of the Shastras like BPHS, Jdtaka Parijata, Brihat Jdtaka, etc. They took their basis from the Nadis, which were much much older and written by Saints like Brighu, Agastya, etc. What Pdrdgara, and other authors did was, they were taught the essence of these Nadi-principles and based on that their works were created. If you read some translated works like Chandra Kala Nadi, you will see what I mean. color:black">If you think that this aspect principle is working well then please tell me how exactly you use it and interpret it, using a chart for reference. The ancient texts all unanimously agree that the aspect of a planet on its OWN SIGN will benefit the sign nothing is said about aspecting debilitation or other signs in particular. color:black">Why do you think it's irrelevant- it's full 7th aspect, at least? color:black">[Visti] Not all planets have full 7th house aspect, infact Saturn, Mars, Jupiter and Rahu have = 7th house aspect, whilst their special aspects are full. Some people disagree about Rahus aspect. color:black">The question that I've been mulling over for while, is that all deb planets aspect their exaltation sign- and some opine /nadi/ that benefits the planet itself- that's where I am not quite sure about- maybe Chandrashekhar could shed some light on this? color:black">Regards, color:black">Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ravish, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ravish [smart_rapheal ] 01 December 2004 05:30 [Om Krishna Guru] Miscellaneous Questions --> Vistji 12.0pt"> Dear Vistiji, Planetary aspects are an integral part of Jyotish. Exalted planets aspect the houses of their debilitation & vice versa. 1) For an exalted planet, who is in a very powerful position it is as good as saying, a King is aspecting one of his weaknesses. In case of debilitated planet, it is in a weak position, so its aspect on its house of exaltation will be like what ? [Visti] Why is this relevant at all? How will you use this in predictions? 2) Will planets transits into houses which are aspected by it natally have different effects ? For example, if in a chart, Ju is exalted & aspects Capricorn, the house of debilitation, when in transit through Capricorn, will Ju still have more power because of its natal aspect ? How abt vice-versa too ? [Visti] The transits are affecting the natal chart, not vice versa. Transits are like the Dasa of the world, and you have no choice but to follow that. 3) Dhimantah Yoga, is the association of 1st lord/house with 6th lord/house. 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